Wikivoyage/Logo/Round 1
For the 2013 logo selection process, ongoing, please see Wikivoyage/Logo 2013 |
Voting on round 1 has CLOSED. Round 2 begins on December 1, 2012 at 00:00 UTC. |
It is desirable for Wikivoyage to have a new logo for its WMF launch which is scheduled for late October. This will be a two-phase process. In round 1, we will vote on the general concept of a logo, followed by round 2, where we will flesh out the selected concept and variations to select a final logo.
Time frame - Round 1:
- October 2012: Open for submissions
- November 1, 2012: Voting begins on round 1 submissions
- November 15, 2012: Voting on round 1 closes at midnight GMT.
Logo contest guidelines:
- All submitted logos must satisfy the guidelines at Logo#Proposing_new_logos, which have been set down by the WMF.
- Our new logo should harmonize with existing WMF project logos (particularly the "content" wikis, as opposed to "administrative" wikis).
- At the same time, however, the logo should not be so similar to existing logos (WMF or otherwise) as to cause possible brand confusion.
- Our new logo must be language-independent (preferably no lettering in main logo, usable with "Wikivoyage" transliterated in all languages).
- The logo should somehow reflect and convey what the travel guide is about - a free, open source, travel guide that anyone can edit.
- The logo should be scalable and reusable. Consider how the logo will look: on the web page, as a favicon, on paper, on T-shirts, on smartphones and tablets, etc.
- The logo should be adaptable. We may use the logo as a basis for the design of icons and other design elements. Designing those icons is not part of the contest, but be prepared to answer questions on these.
- Color doesn't matter (much). This is a two-stage process. For now, we just want basic concepts and ideas. We will develop the winning idea further (including color decisions) in a second stage.
- The logo's copyright must be transferred to the Wikimedia Foundation; that means (practically) that it has to be free of any copyright claims beyond the author's. "[T]he best practice may be to upload proposals on Commons under the Commons:Template:Copyright by Wikimedia, since the final trademark should be transferred to the Wikimedia Foundation." [3]
- The logo concept should be one suitable for rendering in a vector format (e.g., SVG); proposals, though, can be in any format.
- Wikimedia's Marketing Department gets to weigh in and Wikimedia's legal team gets a veto (for trademark or other legal reasons).
Voting guidelines:
- We will use en:Approval voting for this poll. You can vote for as many different options as you like, once per option. If you don't like an option, simply don't vote for it.
- Keep in mind that the initial poll is intended to select a concept only. If you like the concept, vote for it, even if the colors aren't right or the logo is missing something you think it needs.
Option 1 Compass Rose with Direction Letter
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only logo without text
Support
edit- --Vituzzu (talk) 10:20, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --LikeLifer (talk) 11:21, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Jasper Deng (talk) 21:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Carnildo (talk) 00:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --β16 - (talk) 08:16, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Stillhart (talk) 16:57, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- -- Sir Gawain (talk) 17:04, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Inas (talk) 09:03, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 23:37, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'm concerned about the 'N' but I think this is a solid concept. LtPowers (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- Same advice than LtPowers --Dereckson (talk) 19:49, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Has potential, X marks the spot, Map, Compass --Rogerhc (talk) 22:50, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Jmvkrecords (Intracorrespondencia) 15:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Nova (talk) 12:06, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Jayabharat (talk) 03:50, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Does the N as symbol for North in navigation a worldwide concept? Amqui (talk) 17:24, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, I am not convinced about this. Sorry. Riggwelter (talk) 12:14, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- This looks nice, but I would expect the sitename to be something with a "N" in it. Why not a "W", instead? /Johan Jönsson (talk) 16:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- + :) But N is more neutral - often N with arrows is used on maps. Przykuta (talk) 18:24, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- "NikiTravel" :-) Clear, shrinks well, printable, but doesn't grab me and I don't think the N is a good idea. A version with a W (the obvious letter to use) wouldn't work either IMO - David Gerard (talk) 19:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- We could make it point a little west and than use the W for both W and Wikipedia. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- That would make no sense in languages like French (ouest), not to mention languages that don't use the Latin alphabet. LtPowers (talk) 15:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- WMF objects to regular projects using WMF colours, I believe, so this will never get off the ground. This, that and the other (talk) 09:41, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- WMF has no objection to the colors being used. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 10:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Even so, color is something that can be refined later. LtPowers (talk) 15:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- WMF has no objection to the colors being used. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 10:00, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- This logo is simple but powerful. Compass is much better than the suitcase or flying because it represents navigating and exploring. The Suitcase or Globe represents travelling and it can be to anyplace like our hometown where we know every nook and corner like back of our hand. So I beleive that Compass can carry represent the theme of Wikivoyage.
Option 2 Backpacker from James Michael Dupont
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derived from [1]; svg source File:WikiVoyageExquisite-backpack.svg
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version 2 traced from [2]; svg source File:WikiVoyageSwissArmyBackpack.svg
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version 3; svg source File:WikiVoyageSwissArmyBackpackv2.svg
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version 4; svg source File:WikiVoyageSwissArmyBackpackv3.svg
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version 5; svg source File:WikiVoyageSwissArmyBackpackv3 1.svg
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version 5; svg source File:WikiVoyageSwissArmyBackpackv3 2.svg
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version 6 (v5 without Wikipedia logo patch); svg source File:WikiVoyageSwissArmyBackpackv3 3.svg
Author: James Michael DuPont
Support
edit- --Svebert (talk) 07:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 1. --Denghiù (talk) 08:27, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- -- Pedelecs (talk) 15:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Sadly I don't think this would work as designed right now. File:Exquisite-backpack.svg (the source for the backpack) is GPL licensed which is horrendous for images and would place horrid obligations on use. Jalexander (talk) 18:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed. A newspaper publishing this would have to include the entire text of the {{GPL}} licence (a very long document) and additionally the SVG source code. I don't think that I can support this logo unless it is relicensed as something more suitable. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, See my new updated version that does not use any direct copy, only a traced and reworked backpack, it would be hard to even say it is directly a derived work. Mdupont (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Uhm, I'm no expert - luckily I work with some - but a trace of a GPL image is probably still covered, I would thinkStruck: I realize now that he traced a different file, not the GPL of the backpack. Also, I am not sure about the usage of the Wikipedia logo globe on the backpack... why Wikipedia, and not any of the other projects? It just feels out of place to me. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 07:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)- The image traced is dual licenced, cc and gpled. The Wikipedia logo, well because I like it, I would put it on my backpack if I could get a patch for it, and it is the most well known wikimedia project. Anyway, you have both versions and can remove it. Mdupont (talk) 07:40, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, this is not a very good suggestion. Wikivoyage must cater for more travellers than backpackers (which the backpack hints...) and CamelCase is simply ghastly. Riggwelter (talk) 12:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- dont get hung up on it pls, it was just a nice idea, the backpack can have lots of patches or not, as you like! see v6 be creative. Mdupont (talk) 19:48, 7 October 2012 (UTC) way
- I like the idea of a Wikipedia patch. It just needs to be bigger:-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Wikipedia logo is non-free and cannot be used in a free derivative work. And I doubt the WMF would approve regardless; it might cause confusion. LtPowers (talk) 13:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- It might be non free, but you can take a picture of a backpack with it on it and it wont make that non free, we are talking about a patch on a backpack of someone who is supporting the Wikipedia and traveling around writing for wikitravel, not a trademark infringer. I am sure it would be acceptable if we ask in a nice way. anyway as I said, relax it is just an idea, lets be creative here! :D Mdupont (talk) 19:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Is the final result going to be free or do we want the final result to be similar to the Wikipedia logo and owned by the Wikimedia Foundation? If the final result is owned by the WMF than it is not a problem.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:04, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like the idea of a Wikipedia patch. It just needs to be bigger:-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- dont get hung up on it pls, it was just a nice idea, the backpack can have lots of patches or not, as you like! see v6 be creative. Mdupont (talk) 19:48, 7 October 2012 (UTC) way
- I think logos should in general avoid too much detail. The number of compartments, straps and buckles on the bag makes it too complex. I also think it is too backpacker focussed. The colours are also boring, and the curved text is annoying. Finally, putting a Wikipedia patch on is a terrible idea. We are not a subsidiary of Wikipedia. We're not their little cousin. We are "sister sites". JamesA (talk) 04:34, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- To be honest, the presented logos are not that nice. But here we are to vote for concepts and i think a backpack is a good idea for a wiki-voyage logo--Svebert (talk) 07:32, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- That's fine. The general backpack idea is quite good! JamesA (talk) 08:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with with JamesA that it is too complex, too backpacker focussed, the colours are boring, the curved test is annoying, and the Wikipedia patch is a terrible idea. However, I disagree with him that the backpack idea is quite good. --Inas (talk) 09:21, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- That's fine. The general backpack idea is quite good! JamesA (talk) 08:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- To be honest, the presented logos are not that nice. But here we are to vote for concepts and i think a backpack is a good idea for a wiki-voyage logo--Svebert (talk) 07:32, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose --Maxtirdatov (talk) 09:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, to much detail. But does not mean the idea of using (a more stylized) backpack is a bad idea. It definitely evokes feelings of travel. Mutante (talk) 17:07, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 3 Globe with Map
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Version with catchphrase
Derived from commons:File:Globe.png. The claim reads in German: "Wikivoyage. The free travel guide".
Support
edit- Johan Jönsson (talk) 06:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC). It doesn´t have to be more than this.
- --Erik1991 (talk) 08:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Ymblanter (talk) 17:04, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- without cathphrase. --Denghiù (talk) 09:03, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support w/ catchprase --Morten Haan (talk) 23:24, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Interesting, but does not "stick out". Riggwelter (talk) 12:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I´m with Riggwelter here, interesting but not catchy enough. Maybe tone down the colours and make some traveling arrows across the surface of the globe./Johan Jönsson (talk) 16:35, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for commenting and for giving your advice. I agree with you, but I won't change anything in those logos because I have no experience in working with graphics, I'm all into text. I think, however, that a globe should be included in a logo for a travel guide. Perhaps someone who knows how to manipulate graphics can help about this? – Thanks in advance.--Aschmidt (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe you can use the globe from proposal 11. Maybe we can make it rotate, animated .gif seem rather common these days. Anyway, a globe is good and your text looks really proffesional./Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, animated gifs/a rotating globe would not be good, it would take the focus away from the contents. Riggwelter (talk) 20:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- A World Map is a good idea, but I think that it needs to be one that shows the whole world. So a different projection would be better - eg. Mercator's Projection. Also globe symbols are used for other icons, like to represent the internet. AlasdairW (talk) 22:48, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- We cannot show the whole world map because that would not make a logo. A stylised globe fits better into that.--Aschmidt (talk) 17:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Option 4 Compass Rose with Globe
editMy sketch of logo. The proportions of the elements can be changed, the arrow drawn more carefully.
Meta and WMF logo style. Earth and compass, as traveller's tool and object. Top arrow sign W, bottom arrow - V (if Wikivoyage win). Digr (talk) 12:52, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Support
editJohan Jönsson (talk) 06:54, 1 November 2012 (UTC). Got a strength in the simplicity, expecially v0.2aRetracts my vote, too similar to meta-wiki. Doesn´t stand out as a travel-site among the others in the logo-family.
- 0.2a Przykuta (talk) 09:01, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --YMS (talk) 10:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Liesel (talk) 10:03, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Don-kun (talk) 10:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Vituzzu (talk) 10:20, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 or 0.4a looks best imho. Jafeluv (talk) 11:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Tino 032 (talk) 12:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a --Stryn (talk) 12:46, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a e o.6 --Xavier121 (talk) 13:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Luigi.tuby (talk) 13:13, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Quaaludes (talk) 14:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Dome A disposizione! 14:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Restu20 16:58, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --AlessioMela (talk) 20:21, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Matthiasb (talk) 21:20, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a or 0.6 --Martin1978 (talk) 12:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Accurimbono (talk) 15:00, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Nicolabel (talk) 21:52, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Bubo 容 21:55, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Narayan89 22:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- I like this concept, especially the variants.4a and.6 -sche (talk) 22:56, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Archeologo (talk) 23:59, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Especially.4a or.6 --Carnildo (talk) 01:01, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a or 0.6 followed by a colour discussion --Pilettes (talk) 09:21, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Rupertsciamenna (talk) 10:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6--Shizhao (talk) 12:45, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6. -- GMM
- 0.4a –Römert (talk) 22:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 —James (talk) 22:37, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a --Ezalvarenga (talk) 23:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a --Nicor (talk) 00:10, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Ravikiran r (talk) 02:02, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Pakeha (talk) 07:53, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a and secondly 0.6a. Maybe with more prominent arrows would would separate this image from meta logo. OrbiliusMagister, 15:37, 3 nov 2012
- I prefer 0.6 over the others, perhaps with a deeper blue planet or a thinner white ring between the planet and the outer marker. --NaBUru38 (talk) 18:46, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6, second choice overall. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 19:23, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Simon.hess (talk) 23:51, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Jcornelius (talk) 02:01, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Romaine (talk) 02:52, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- --MF-W 03:51, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 is my second overall choice. Sven Manguard (talk) 07:24, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Nyan ∗ Dog 12:13, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.2a or 0.6 -- Sir Gawain (talk) 17:04, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Waldir (talk) 22:24, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --[[kgh]] (talk) 00:00, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --FAEP (talk) 00:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Hydriz (talk) 05:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a. --Denghiù (talk) 08:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Kou07kou (talk) 20:39, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Modem130797 (talk) 22:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Battroid (talk) 04:38, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Snowolf How can I help? 07:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 VIGNERON * discut. 07:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- My third and last choice - DerFussi 11:30, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.2a, 0.4a and 0.6. Lionel Allorge (talk) 11:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --The Polish (talk) 13:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Patafisik (talk) 14:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Jalo 15:59, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Not ideal, but better than the other options:( Kaldari (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Agree at version 0.6. בנימין (talk) 05:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- -Mys_721tx(talk) 06:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 23:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Rjd0060 (talk) 02:56, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- preferably 0.6 Kpjas (talk) 00:30, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Daniel749 (talk) 20:11, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Version 0.6
- I'd like to see 0.6's concept with the globe and colours of Option 35. Amqui (talk) 23:10, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Ldorfman (talk) 23:48, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Prolineserver (talk) 08:32, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support Compass Rose idea, but no Meta concern and RGB colors. Digr (talk) 09:25, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a --Woozz un problème? 11:29, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- I support the version 0.6 logo for it' simplicity even in small size. -- Gangulybiswarup (talk) 11:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 version --Wikinade (talk) 13:14, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- .4a and.6 are both my favorites LeslieCarr (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Archenzo (talk) 18:01, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a. I think that the similarity is not a problem. --Emaus (talk) 20:56, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 I don't think the similarity to be a problem either. Comte0 (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Nicolas1981 (talk) 03:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 -Derschueler 06:10, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.2a or 0.6 Linedwell@frwiki 06:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Louis-garden (talk) 08:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Maxtirdatov (talk) 09:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --JÄNNICK Jérémy (talk) 10:17, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Dirk Schmidt (talk) 13:08, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a or 0.6. Kertraon (talk) 13:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Ragesoss (talk) 17:44, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Lyokoï88 (talk) 19:39, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Yoursmile (talk) 21:10, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --KuboF (talk) 01:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- o.6 --White Master (es) 03:24, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Omshivaprakash (talk) 04:36, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 --Gloumouth1 (talk) 08:20, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a or 0.6 Warofdreams (talk) 11:34, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Nova (talk) 12:10, 13 November 2012
- 0.6 --Drozdp (talk) 12:45, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 for sure - Zac Allan (talk) 18:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Mahadeva (talk) 18:53, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 Emperyan-message/ileti-WMTR 19:53, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.6 ~ Seb35 [^_^] 22:35, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- 0.4a – I find the small amount of green in 0.6 to be perfunctory. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 09:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- Version 0.6. --Azgar (talk) 19:40, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- --TarzanASG (talk) 21:40, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- I believe that in general, the WMF prefers that project logos avoid the WMF logo style. LtPowers (talk) 13:53, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- What makes you believe that? {{citation needed}} -- Arne (akl) (talk) 14:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Talk:Wiktionary/logo/archive-vote-4#Changing colors, among others. LtPowers (talk) 02:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is a six year old conversation, citing a WMF communications volunteer... However, looking at some more recent logos, it doesn't seem like the WMF does object logos similar in style and color. -- Arne (akl) (talk) 08:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I believe Incubator was the last time that was allowed. See, for instance, the 2008 Wikibooks logo contest, where "Logos must strive not to use WM's color palette" is explicitly called out as the first rule. LtPowers (talk) 14:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Globe no. 2 with design no. 3 is one I like too--Voyage321 (talk) 18:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Now only version 1 consist WMF color scheme. Another - globe blue, compass red end dark blue, it's typical color for compass. Digr (talk) 14:58, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Wikidata logo is using the WMF color scheme, and it is as recent as 2012. When selecting the logo and setting up the Wikidata logo proposal procedure, there was no mention of *not* using the WMF colors. --denny (talk) 09:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- I actually think we should use the WMF color scheme for projects related to other Wikimedia projects (like the foundation's wiki, Wikidata, Commons, the incubator and Meta, as they are all related to other projects) and another logo for what I would call "content-wikis", like Wikipedia, Wikibooks and this project. If you look at http://wikimedia.org, you'll also notice all the logos comply with what I suggested (expect maybe the Wikispecies logo, but it still has certain differences). -- Julien Dethurens (talk) 02:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- This makes sense, lets use somethoing else than those dreary colours. I think the colour-explosion in option8-version 17k is a good example./Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I actually think we should use the WMF color scheme for projects related to other Wikimedia projects (like the foundation's wiki, Wikidata, Commons, the incubator and Meta, as they are all related to other projects) and another logo for what I would call "content-wikis", like Wikipedia, Wikibooks and this project. If you look at http://wikimedia.org, you'll also notice all the logos comply with what I suggested (expect maybe the Wikispecies logo, but it still has certain differences). -- Julien Dethurens (talk) 02:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is a six year old conversation, citing a WMF communications volunteer... However, looking at some more recent logos, it doesn't seem like the WMF does object logos similar in style and color. -- Arne (akl) (talk) 08:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Talk:Wiktionary/logo/archive-vote-4#Changing colors, among others. LtPowers (talk) 02:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- What makes you believe that? {{citation needed}} -- Arne (akl) (talk) 14:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Like 0.1 best so far, maybe with the globe being a bit smaller (but not as small as in 1.1/1.2). Version 3 with text seems a bit too similar to WT -- Arne (akl) (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Version 0.2 for you. Digr (talk) 14:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like 0.1, but I would divide it by four with foyr arrows around instead of only two and with more colours, it would represent more that this is a travel guide for "everywhere". I'm not convinced by the globe being divided by squares like the MetaWiki logo though. Amqui (talk) 04:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Version 1.1 is best. Yann (talk)
- Remember that a compass should have some kind of coincidence with the poles of the globe./Johan Jönsson (talk) 16:39, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- No. Compass indicates the magnetic poles of Earth, but no geographical. Digr (talk) 17:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- 20px versions added (to show, how they will work as favicons). Przykuta (talk) 16:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- The best ideas here in my opinion. I prefer 0.4 but also have a suggestion how it could work better to me: I would rotate the outer ring so the cardinal directions from the globe agree with the four arrows. I think this would look more coherent. And perhaps other colours would work too. --Pilettes (talk) 17:44, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Have you thought about taking the.1 version but aligning the arrows with the primary meridian so that it looks like a classroom globe and deleting a parts from the globe (say the first 3 sections from the top line and the 2nd section from the second line) the way the Wikipedia logo has parts missing? Great theme though. --84.41.86.38 22:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't understand your proposal. You want 3D-globe with North Hemisphere? Digr (talk) 04:37, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- No. Just the existing segmented schematic, but with the arrows on the outside ring lined up with the straight line in the globe schematic. Also, the first 3 segments from the top line of the schematic and the second segment from the second line of the globe schematic deleted to signify that there are still things to add. Or something like that. --84.41.86.38 15:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm stupid. I don't understand again. Can you paint it? Please, can we will discuss on my talk page? Digr (talk) 03:28, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- No. Just the existing segmented schematic, but with the arrows on the outside ring lined up with the straight line in the globe schematic. Also, the first 3 segments from the top line of the schematic and the second segment from the second line of the globe schematic deleted to signify that there are still things to add. Or something like that. --84.41.86.38 15:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't understand your proposal. You want 3D-globe with North Hemisphere? Digr (talk) 04:37, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- I choose this logo because it is more similar with other logos of Wikimedia, but it seems too much of a logo without character. That is too much like that Meta logo. It would be better to round borders of arrows on version 0.3. A great logo IMO would be an icon that represents a guidebook set of side with pictures of landscapes in the open pages. Digr, are you able to create it? Raoli 16:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- Colleaguas, we have only two objects in this logo: ring and arrows and central element. I created classication on my talk page. If you have a some variants by elements, please add into list. Digr (talk) 03:28, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Logos should also be reduced greatly and work in black and white --> 0.6 --Ralf Roletschek (talk) 07:35, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- I would be concerned that the globe in 0.2 and 0.4 resembles the Meta logo too closely. LtPowers (talk) 02:41, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, sorry. Too much Metro over it. It feels a bit overworked, as well. Riggwelter (talk) 20:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Version 0.4a and especially 0.6 are really cool! The look very wikimediatic:) Perhaps a deeper blue planet or a thinner white ring between the planet and the outer markers could help, but as it's now it't perfect. Great work! --NaBUru38 (talk) 22:58, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think this is one awesome logo. Only one huge issue. It looks very similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. Brand confusion or similarity is an awful thing. We certainly do not want to be like Commons, a "subsidiary" site. We want to be a unique website with a unique vision and community. For that to happen, we need a completely different take on the logo. I could support this with a radical change so it bares little resembles to Meta-Wiki's logo. JamesA (talk) 04:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- I love this option. Great work. --Meno25 (talk) 14:13, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is my favourite of the various logos. Regarding the resemblance to the WMF logo,
Philippe (WMF)
commented regarding Option 1 that the Foundation has no objection to logos using WMF colours. -sche (talk) 01:39, 29 October 2012 (UTC)- And the colors can be changed at any rate. But it's not the colors that concern me; it's the globe-inside-circle concept, which is virtually identical to the Meta-Wiki logo. LtPowers (talk) 16:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- I don't care about what the WMF thinks. That's up to the community to decide. --Matthiasb (talk) 21:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- And the colors can be changed at any rate. But it's not the colors that concern me; it's the globe-inside-circle concept, which is virtually identical to the Meta-Wiki logo. LtPowers (talk) 16:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- These variants are way too similar to other project logos - especially extremely similar to the logo of this wiki, the Meta-Wiki, by the way;-). A "wikimedia flair" is good, but we also need some uniqueness for this project. Also, they are too complex and lack elegance, in my opinion. Gestumblindi (talk) 19:31, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- I don't like this logo. The globe part of it is arguably the most overused cliché in logoland. It will never stick in peoples minds. Erik Zachte (talk) 05:30, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- I miss the globe variant containing shades of sea and land instead of parallels and meridians. In this case it would look less like a pure copy of the Meta logo. Please propose it again. --Pakeha (talk) 07:53, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- As was said already, I think this proposal is too similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. For me, it's also a bit too "technical" and "sober" for a travel guide.--CroMagnon (talk) 20:56, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- As stated many times before, this is much too similar to the Meta-Wiki logo and would need significant modification to make it viable. (maybe there is a possibility of taking elements from this and Option 27 and merging them together?) I think it's also important to note that out of the current 47 support votes, I can only spot one or two Wikivoyagers among dozens of Wikimedians. It's great three communities are coming together, but good agreement among all three would be preferred instead of which has more voting power. JamesA (talk) 02:16, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- These look nice, but too similar to Meta's logo. –sumone10154(talk) 04:19, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
This is a serious concern
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Folks, look. This logo is EXTREMELY similar to the Meta-Wiki logo. I'm not even talking about colors. It's the shape and the coordinate-system globe icon in the middle. It is likely to cause brand confusion between Meta-Wiki and Wikivoyage. Would the supporters please explain how this choice fits the logo guidelines we agreed upon? Specifically "the logo should not be so similar to existing logos (WMF or otherwise) as to cause possible brand confusion"? This is VERY important to get straightened out quickly, and I don't see very many people discussing this from the pro-logo side (most everyone's just voting). LtPowers (talk) 14:31, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- No one outside of the people that volunteer on WMF projects have any idea that Meta exists, let alone what its logo looks like. In fact, a large number of people that do volunteer on WMF projects have any idea that Meta exists. I don't see an issue. This is also Sven Manguard (talk) 15:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- You seem to be completely missing the point of establishing a unique brand identity. The fact that a logo is not well recognized among the general public doesn't make it fair game for usurpation. LtPowers (talk) 17:34, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree strongly with LtPowers. In the first vote there was no other choice, but now yes. Even these other logos Option 38 Strategic Planning Logos have the problem of excessive similarity with the Wikimedia logos and trademarks. Raoli 23:46, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- I share the same concerns. As I stated above, this logo would need extreme modification to make it viable, or else it just isn't an option. We cannot risk brand confusion and that is a clear guideline. I also find it curious that nearly all support votes are from Wikimedians/Wikipedians. Brand confusion doesn't seem to be an important issue on their checklists. JamesA (talk) 06:39, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- I understand your concerns, but the reason I approve of this proposal is just because it is based on the meta-wiki-logo. In my view, that is the main advantage of this. As we are giving our approval of concepts, my understanding is that by approving this proposal we approve the concept of using a slightly changed meta-wiki-logo. It is a bit confusing though, that the not so meta-wiki-like v0.4b. is a part of this proposal. If I am wrong and the presented concept is supposed be for any kind of globes with compass-like encircling-then this proposal is identical with option 35. Option 35 is also nice but doesn´t have that similarity with meta-wiki so it isn´t identified as a part of the wikimedia-sphere in the same way. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johan Jönsson (talk • contribs) .
- But why would you want the Wikivoyage logo to look like the Meta-Wiki logo? The two projects have nothing in common aside from both being under the WMF banner... why not make it look like the Foundation logo, or the Wiktionary logo, or the Wikisource logo instead? Why Meta-Wiki? And none of the other project logos bear this significant similarity, either; why should Wikivoyage alone inherit another project's logo elements? LtPowers (talk) 16:48, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- The fast answer, is because the vote is held here and the meta-logo is the one I see and it seem to me to be something connected to wikipedia-sphere (wmf is it?). If someone had proposed something similar to wikibooks, wiktionary, wikipedia, wikinews I would have thought that to be a good idea too. But I decided after my last remark to read up on logo-vote (all held on meta-wiki of some reason) and saw that meta-wiki-like logos have been around every time but never got decided on. Finally I saw this [4] and decided that similarity in colour and too abstract shapes isn´t a good idea, so I will remove my approval of this option./Johan Jönsson (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- A logo or trademark must always be clearly distinguished from another by visual point of view. If now we compare these logos, the distinction is no longer clear as it should be.
At the beginning there was no choice for voters but now yes. Raoli 19:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- A logo or trademark must always be clearly distinguished from another by visual point of view. If now we compare these logos, the distinction is no longer clear as it should be.
- The fast answer, is because the vote is held here and the meta-logo is the one I see and it seem to me to be something connected to wikipedia-sphere (wmf is it?). If someone had proposed something similar to wikibooks, wiktionary, wikipedia, wikinews I would have thought that to be a good idea too. But I decided after my last remark to read up on logo-vote (all held on meta-wiki of some reason) and saw that meta-wiki-like logos have been around every time but never got decided on. Finally I saw this [4] and decided that similarity in colour and too abstract shapes isn´t a good idea, so I will remove my approval of this option./Johan Jönsson (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- But why would you want the Wikivoyage logo to look like the Meta-Wiki logo? The two projects have nothing in common aside from both being under the WMF banner... why not make it look like the Foundation logo, or the Wiktionary logo, or the Wikisource logo instead? Why Meta-Wiki? And none of the other project logos bear this significant similarity, either; why should Wikivoyage alone inherit another project's logo elements? LtPowers (talk) 16:48, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- I understand your concerns, but the reason I approve of this proposal is just because it is based on the meta-wiki-logo. In my view, that is the main advantage of this. As we are giving our approval of concepts, my understanding is that by approving this proposal we approve the concept of using a slightly changed meta-wiki-logo. It is a bit confusing though, that the not so meta-wiki-like v0.4b. is a part of this proposal. If I am wrong and the presented concept is supposed be for any kind of globes with compass-like encircling-then this proposal is identical with option 35. Option 35 is also nice but doesn´t have that similarity with meta-wiki so it isn´t identified as a part of the wikimedia-sphere in the same way. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johan Jönsson (talk • contribs) .
- I share the same concerns. As I stated above, this logo would need extreme modification to make it viable, or else it just isn't an option. We cannot risk brand confusion and that is a clear guideline. I also find it curious that nearly all support votes are from Wikimedians/Wikipedians. Brand confusion doesn't seem to be an important issue on their checklists. JamesA (talk) 06:39, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- I agree strongly with LtPowers. In the first vote there was no other choice, but now yes. Even these other logos Option 38 Strategic Planning Logos have the problem of excessive similarity with the Wikimedia logos and trademarks. Raoli 23:46, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- You seem to be completely missing the point of establishing a unique brand identity. The fact that a logo is not well recognized among the general public doesn't make it fair game for usurpation. LtPowers (talk) 17:34, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- Comment from Philippe
I was pointed here and asked whether the Foundation had thoughts as to the similarity issue as raised above. I just want to acknowledge that we've been asked, and I've asked Jay Walsh, Head of Communications, whether he could weigh in. He'll be here shortly, I hope, to leave some thoughts. Thanks, all, for the chance to weigh in, but also for all the hard, deliberate work that's being put into the details of this project. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 20:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Comment from Jay Walsh (WMF)
Hi folks, I'm happy to provide some general perspective from the Foundation on the topic of branding/identity. As most of you probably know, WMF doesn't directly involve itself with the creation of new marks nor the processes that unfold, except to provide input or context that may be helpful. I've only seen a few identity creation processes unfold in our projects over the past five years, and each time there's always a slight change of process - frequently an optimization of process. I would cite the recent Wikidata logo contest as a good process: highly visible, good promotion etc.
In this case I do share some concerns that the proposed Wikivoyage logo has a great deal of similarity to the meta wiki logo. I don't think that's an extraordinary issue, but I do concur that having two of our project logos look so similar can cause confusion. The case I would present is display of all the project logos. WMF often does this in reports and presentations (see the annual report for instance) - I think about how all of the marks look together, and in this case I do have some concerns that anyone (Wikimedian or member of the public) might remark on how similar the two marks are.
However, this mark is also missing a key ingredient, the type treatment underneath (or beside, wherever it's intended to live). If there is a completely unique and original use of text around this mark it may successfully distinguish it from the meta wiki mark. And although the marks of our projects routinely rely on the classic RGB color scheme, I would say there's nothing preventing the designer from considering a distinct color palette to further distinguish it from meta. There is no Foundation requirement (nor request) that the logo use these establish colors in a new mark, and in fact I actively encourage anyone creating identity within our projects to consider new color options. I would argue that RGB is a common element to the WMF project community only because it provides a reasonable starting point in design (which is completely understandable and logical in most cases).
I think these points have been mentioned already, but the concerns I would encourage you to keep in mind: how will it look at 40px or less (mobile access will be huge), will it scale and work in a larger size if necessary, will it be easy to localize - position of the project name text in non-roman characters. I would avoid logos that require wrapping or bending the text around a shape. Other language communities will want to localize, and making text placement simple and straightforward is important.
I also sense there's urgency around arriving at a conclusion because of the timeline of the project. I would encourage the community to consider the first logo something open to revision and changes over the first 6 months of the project's life. As the community grows and the project builds momentum there will be more voices to provide insight and opinion. Keeping the decision somewhat open-ended for the next 3 to 6 months seems like a good plan.
Hope this helps - happy to reflect further if you have questions. JayWalsh (talk) 02:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Put some color
editAbout the concern, just change the colors, I put some colors away from the previously chosen to show my point of view, alias, are the colors of backpacks that I have. But do not think you'll choose something in these colors because you are old. . Rodrigo Tetsuo Argentonm 19:27, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 5 Sailboat
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Based on this image, this might make sense here in particular if the name winds up voyagey. -— Isarra ༆ 02:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Support
edit- YMS (talk) 10:01, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Barbaforcuta (talk) 14:04, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Etrusko25 (talk) 21:14, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- I like this option, too, although I prefer option 4. -sche (talk) 22:59, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Svebert (talk) 07:38, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Shizhao (talk) 12:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 17:32, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Husky (talk) 21:19, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Lvova (talk) 18:44, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Strong support --MF-W 03:51, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Ajraddatz (Talk) 14:04, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Gidoca (talk) 20:10, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Inas (talk) 09:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- — putnik 10:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Johan Jönsson (talk) 17:16, 7 November 2012 (UTC). I like that it is a real world object and not something abstract. I would skip the circles, though.
- --VAP+VYK (talk) 14:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thayvian (talk) 05:34, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- Toto Azéro follow the guide! 10:11, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Floflo Like this concept. --Floflo (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Nouill (talk) 08:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Not bad --Maxtirdatov (talk) 09:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Mutante (talk) 16:38, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 21:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Kontos (talk) 21:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Soheyla (Talk) 09:13, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- Pretty cool. V!v£ l@ Rosière /Murmurer…/ 09:16, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- Memorable. --Piotrus (talk) 20:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- I find it very beautiful, even if it is not selected. ~ Seb35 [^_^] 22:36, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- In blueish colours: pretty perfect. — Linus (disk) 18:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Iluvatar (talk) 20:50, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- --TarzanASG (talk) 21:40, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Why with sailboat? We have travel project, but no sailing, chart and other. It's logo for wikipilotbook. One percent or less of all travellers use sailboats. Digr (talk) 06:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- For me the sailboat works well as an analogy for travel (like the puzzle pieces in Wikipedia's logo - even though we're not doing jigsaw puzzles at all). -- Arne (akl) (talk) 12:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Looks nice, especially with the text. Could be the company logo for a travel company (or boat renter)/Johan Jönsson (talk) 16:41, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- For me the sailboat works well as an analogy for travel (like the puzzle pieces in Wikipedia's logo - even though we're not doing jigsaw puzzles at all). -- Arne (akl) (talk) 12:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, this is too bland. Riggwelter (talk) 12:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Complicated, doesn't shrink well, not printable - David Gerard (talk) 19:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Having a distinct appearance at 16px is about as well as anything can shrink, and it prints no worse than any other project logo with shading. -— Isarra ༆ 18:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'd say that this is the best one so far. It looks very professional. Perhaps something similar, but with something other than a sailboat? Ajraddatz (Talk) 14:22, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- The best idea. Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 14:48, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- I prefer option 4, but I like this idea, too: it conveys the idea of travel, though it does suggest sea-travel more than travel over land. -sche (talk) 01:36, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like this logo (in blue) very much. Although I am confused why you printed „travel“ instead of „voyage“ under the third version. To the concept: I think sailing is one of the very transportation systems which gives me immediately the feeling of „travelling“ and „having a good time“. I dont have this feeling when thinking on cars or planes or even trains--Svebert (talk) 07:38, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- No. Nice, but too reductive. Travel is not only by sea. --Denghiù (talk) 09:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- They're really wonderful, but really conjure up in my head thoughts of sailing charts and what not, not of travelling in general. Snowolf How can I help? 07:03, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 6 Compass Rose - No Letter
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I separate version 3 in Option 6, because it's different logo versions v0, v1. Digr (talk) 06:28, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Support
edit- --Carnildo (talk) 01:02, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Lvova (talk) 18:46, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support Version 3. --Idh0854 (talk) 23:35, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- A bit basic, but appealing. LtPowers (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support Very nice symbolism—guiding star, navigator's star, I wish upon a shining star... to travel, look up. --Rogerhc (talk) 00:36, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Tommyang (talk) 13:51, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- The logo must work both with and without text. That means it has to be simple, with few colours/shapes and preferably no language-specific text. So, I'd go for version 3/version 3 with text, but without the "Free travel guides" addition. Riggwelter (talk) 12:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Clear, shrinks well, printable... but I don't actively like it - David Gerard (talk) 19:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think the red circle in the center should instead be green, to use all the three colors of the WMF logo. -- Julien Dethurens (talk) 02:05, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- Like. Guiding star. Navigator's star. Excellent symbolism. (I also like #Option 17 Blue and Yellow Compass Rose) --Rogerhc (talk) 00:26, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 7 Old Wikivoyage Logo
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Old Wikivoyage logo
Support
edit- Przykuta (talk) 09:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Berthold on Wikivoyage:de -- Balou46 (talk) 19:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 22:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Aschmidt (talk) 21:29, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Romaine (talk) 02:53, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Chaddy (talk) 02:43, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- RolandUnger (talk) 17:00, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Elelicht (talk) 19:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- MichaelSchoenitzer (talk) 23:36, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Tine.wv (talk) 22:08, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Aushulz (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Vogone (talk) 16:14, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Of course, this logo can be used only if the name Wikivoyage was choosen as the project name.
- Under the logo, more information like transliterated names, "The Free Travel Guide" could be written.
- Potential problem: "Wikivoyage" will not have a "v" in it in non-Latin scripts. LtPowers (talk) 23:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- If we "join" WMF (or get "adopted" by WMF), we should of course have a new logo. The name is fine, but a new logo does mean a sign of a fresh start. So, a no to this logo. Riggwelter (talk) 20:22, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nice use of text, without any fancy icon. I do not get that big V, it looks like a check-symbol for a check-list. /Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Well, this big "V" stands for the "Voyage" in "Wikivoyage. Since one often uses check lists when preparing for travel, even your interpretation makes sense. I like it a lot, it is simple yet clearly refers to the wiki. In the German and Italian speaking wiki community, it is firmly established and has a high recognition value. --Mulleflupp (talk) 13:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Even after using the wikivoyage site for months, I never got the meaning of the tick. --Inas (talk) 09:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 8 Suitcase
editI'm not good at making logo's, this is just a simple idea, please feel free to change it, make the background transparent and make it better. / Elinnea (talk) 10:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Further variants of Option 8: Travel Guide/Logo/Variants of Option 8.
Support
edit- Johan Jönsson (talk) 06:42, 1 November 2012 (UTC) Especially 17-2, the suitcase with wings printed on it.
- Like Johan, I'd rather the #17-2 --Horcrux92 (talk) 09:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Riggwelter (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2012 (UTC) The SVG-version: Plain, simple, looks great in both bigger and smaller contexts.
- Ainali (talk) 20:13, 1 November 2012 (UTC) The SVG-version.
- Elinnea (talk) 23:27, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Gestumblindi (talk) 23:33, 1 November 2012 (UTC) Especially the variants with wings. There's something "classic" about them.
- GMM
- --Filzstift (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC) (mainly the SVG version)
- --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 23:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Alice Wiegand (talk) 00:18, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- with white globe. --Denghiù (talk) 08:36, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- –sumone10154(talk) 04:21, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- – cacahuate talk 11:05, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- Wikitorrens (talk) 11:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC) – All are good, but I particularly like the clean look of the first variant.
- ChristianT (talk) 17:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- As I stated previously, I'd like the blank suitcase for a favicon and small resolutions and a fancy version with bits and pieces like wings for a proper logo. JamesA (talk) 06:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Bultro (talk) 18:25, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Vote for the globe option. --ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 22:57, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- without the globe. בנימין (talk) 05:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- I like the white globe version best (second from the left), and perhaps the blank version (the left one) for favicons and other small versions. By the way, I'm the designer of the of the basic suitcase icon (commons:File:Suitcase icon.svg), and I feel pleasantly surprised (and even a bit flattered;) to see my little thingie back here, used in such a nice way. Cheerio to all. :) Jahoe (talk) 00:47, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- I like the suitcase but it could use a little more dynamism. LtPowers (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Aushulz (talk) 00:16, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- To me the suitcase + white globe is far & away the best logo here. It is simple while many of the others strike me as far too complex and it has no words so it works in any language. Both the suitcase and the globe allude to travel, and the globe has additional benefits. It points out that this is a worldwide guide. It also resembles the WMF logo enough to indicate the relationship between WV and the Foundation but, because it is a different colour, it does that without any confusing resemblance. Pashley (talk) 01:49, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 17-2 Nicolas1981 (talk) 03:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- suitcase with white globe. Linedwell@frwiki 06:54, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Maxtirdatov (talk) 09:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- --JoleK (talk) 11:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Nobelium (talk) 16:50, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Ragesoss (talk) 17:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Principle is good, although no individual logo is great. Slight preference for the globe version. Warofdreams (talk) 11:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- The suitcase without details is simple and the small size version is easy to regocnise. --Kulmalukko (talk) 12:52, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- Fits the WMF color scheme, through second choice for me - I like the ones with a ship more. --Piotrus (talk) 20:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- No 2. --NERIUM (talk) 14:32, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- --TarzanASG (talk) 21:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Good idea, I think about it. Option: country sticker with wv. Digr (talk) 11:13, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like this, has potential. Digr's idea of a WV sticker is cool too. Anyone with know-how want to flesh this option out more? – cacahuate talk 20:45, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like this. A suitcase is the symbol for travel (much more so than a backpack) so this one definitely has potential. Riggwelter (talk) 20:23, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Add the Wikipedia logo and have the final product owned by the WMF. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think we nailed it here, lets adopt the suitcase. (not to be confused with the briefcase, the icon of bureaucrats) /Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think this one is really good, I like the colours chosen, and the simplicity. I did all my traveling with a backpack, or now a bicycle, but I like this image. Only needs to be changed from a jpg.
- I like it. Maybe some compass or Paris-Sticker (or palm or sailboat on the suitcase) - but then there would be to many details. It should be possible to use the logo at a very small size, for example (30 px - like on the Wikipedia Main page) The white globe has already to many details - --Bin im Garten (talk) 15:30, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- W/o globe. It's basketball's ball in X-ray. Digr (talk) 17:04, 19 October 2012 (UTC) -- I made the whide color now stronger (no more X-ray). Thera are also other globe-icons that dont resemble basketballs. --Bin im Garten (talk) 12:27, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
- The idea of using a suitcase is great, and the style is very wikimediatic. But the logo looks too static, whereas travelling is exactly the opposite. Try to add speed to the logo, like putting the suitcase in perspective and/or tilted and some go faster stripes. Keep going! --NaBUru38 (talk) 23:00, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like number 27 most. --Bin im Garten (talk) 12:14, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- How about modifying #17 to make it look like the suitcase has wings? — Ravikiran r (talk) 12:26, 21 October 2012 (UTC) - I modified it: see 17a, 17b, 17c and 17d --Bin im Garten (talk) 13:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Some of the logos look too complex. Other Wikimedia logos appear in the web browser's list of boookmarks in a very reduced size. I suppose that the logo needs to be recognisable even if the largest dimension only is 20 pixels (or something similar). Try this: (20×20 pixels). When rendered at this size, the logo means nothing to me. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:09, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- It is a pitty that there are no binding conventions for the logo size. But I think you are right that small details make no sense. This modification (20×20 pixels) has less details. On the Wikipedia Main Page, where all logos are shown in the bottom part, they have exactly the following size: - - - - - - - - (wikinews has a really complex logo) - compare these with - - . On the other hand the main use of the logos is not in such small resolutions. If small resolution is such an essential criteria the best way would be to stick with the initial proposal of a plain suitcase - . This goes in line with the verry plain logos of wikibooks, wikiquote, commons and wiktionary. - - - --Bin im Garten (talk) 13:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Option 25 Suitcase with Signpost v1 looks great when standing along with others' logos. It doesn't cause any ambiguity. The suitcase along with signpost will clearly represent tourism/travellingCan you please include the logo of WikiData and Wikispecies also so that a better comparison can be made?···Vanischenu「mc|Talk」 08:08, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- I strongly think the logotype should be kept as simple as possible. All the versions with wings, signposts and whatnot are way too much. I suggest we base the symbol on the SVG version of the suitcase. If any other symbol should be enclosed, it should be the Wikimedia "W" in the center of the suitcase, but preferably not. So - please! - keep it simple. Creativity is worth all praise, but if this symbol should work in a bigger as well as a smaller version, and be recognised at an instant, we simply cannot have a symbol which looks like a bunting. Less is more! Riggwelter (talk) 15:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC) -- BUT: a suitcase alone is not enought for a new brand. The suitcase icon is so old and standard everywhere in the world. --Bin im Garten (talk) 12:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hey I like the wings:) But seriously, how about we lose the suitcase, or make it very small, and make the wings that look like a "V" the most prominent stylistic element? — Ravikiran r (talk) 15:34, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have posted now picture 27 seperately as Option 17 --Bin im Garten (talk) 18:36, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nice. With the white globe, or 17b would be my favorite. The others are often too busy. Ziko (talk) 23:06, 21 October 2012 (UTC) -- I have now included more versions with wings (17e till 17 m) --Bin im Garten (talk) 12:27, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like no. 29 the most but without the blue lining for the i. --84.41.86.38 07:12, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't like the signpost crossovers. I feel the logos need to feel somewhat balanced/symmetrical, and the signpost throws it off. I really like the wings idea. I don't feel it makes it too busy at small sizes. Of course, one important option we should consider is a variable logo. At small sizes, we could use the suitcase by itself. When we have room to make the logo big, such as in the top-left corner of the wiki, then we use the wings version. And then the suitcase can be adapted in other circumstances as people see fit. If we're doing something about rail for some reason, we can use that particular version. We would not be the first WMF project. Note Wiktionary swaps between their "W scrabble" logo and the "dictionary definition" logo, mostly depending on resolutions. JamesA (talk) 09:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- What about combining air (wings) and rail-transportaion. --Goldzahn (talk) 12:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oh my, there is too many alternatives, could the amkers maybe remove some of the almost similar variants. Maybe having them on a separate page? The rail-alternatives looks a bit strange, the suitcase is to wide to looka like a locomotive. Wings on the other hand is more of an adornement, something to spice things up./Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:50, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'ts great to see that people liked my suitcase idea, and made so many variations of it! I like the plain one . I also like 17 and 17 a , it's the ones that's looks most like a logo to me. Maybe it would look good if we took the stripes that are under the bag on this one , make them a bit smaller and put them on the green area of the suitcase, if you know what i mean? The angelwings on some of the other ones give me death associations, like the suitcase died (got run over by a train while standing on the tracks?) and is now traveling to heaven or something. The final voyage... And some of the other wings lookes a little bit like odour oozing out of the suitcase, and some of them are way to busy for my taste. / Elinnea (talk) 14:03, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with you, Elinnea! Those wings you suggest looks most like something to put on a logo./Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:52, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- Added wings inside the green area of suitcase, per Elinnea's suggestion (v68-71). On the fence about whether I like it – cacahuate talk 05:20, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- Try with wings and open "bag-book" Przykuta (talk) 13:25, 26 October 2012 (UTC) - I have added suticae with book - v72 till v81 --Bin im Garten (talk) 15:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have added now after v71: v17-1 till v17-4 --Bin im Garten (talk) 14:26, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- that bat-like loose-paged book of v72 looks great. v77 is also a very good book-icon. The idea of combining a set of book pages with a suitcase is what a travel planning site is all about, but it looks a bit strange with that suitcase. Keep those nice book icons but try with something else beneath them./Johan Jönsson (talk) 19:25, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- This really is not such a good idea, It's too suggestive of certain type of travel, with a suitcase rather than travailing light — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.109.12.80 (talk)
- In number 80/81 we have the sign posts in the middle of the circle of two colors. I think that one image would be good by itself. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:39, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I really like the suitcase in 17-2: ! I also like the book-thing on top of (72) : ! It's dynamic and "wingy" and the shape is almost like "V" and "W". It looks like a self-composed guidebook, which is the point of the project! Could you put the book-thing in the suitcase, in white? That would be my favorite! --Atlasowa (talk) 10:39, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Besides the focus on air travel (I would much prefer a version with rail tracks), the wings as they are remind me way too much of those in the Datei:IATA Logo.svg. If the trend is to go with wings then the design should clearly distinguished from those.
Option 9 Suitcase with waves
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editOption 10 Suitcase with wings
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edit- --Goldzahn (talk) 09:57, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Options 66 or 67 — Ravikiran r (talk) 02:01, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- 17h or 67 --CroMagnon (talk) 20:48, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- 17a --Waldir (talk) 22:23, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- As I stated previously, I'd like the blank suitcase for a favicon and small resolutions and a fancy version with wings for a proper logo. JamesA (talk) 06:46, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Aushulz (talk) 00:18, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 17a 17m Nicolas1981 (talk) 03:22, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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editOption 11 Suitcase on rail tracks
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editOption 12 Suitcase with wings Concept 2
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editOption 13 Suitcase - Multiple concepts
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edit- The #61 --Horcrux92 (talk) 09:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- The #61 --Fragols99 (talk) 18:05, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- The #61 Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 17:34, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- The #60 Etiennekd (talk) 23:05, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
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editOption 14 Suitcase with book-wings
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edit- None of them convice me nonetheless I support the concept which is innovative (v01-02-03-04). V!v£ l@ Rosière /Murmurer…/ 09:23, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
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edit- Very pretty! I like the book-thing on top of (72) : ! It's dynamic and "wingy" and the shape is almost like "V" and "W". It looks like a self-composed guidebook, which is the point of the project! Could you turn it white and put it in the suitcase like in 17-2: ? That would be my favorite! --Atlasowa (talk) 10:37, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Can you try merging the suitcase and book / wings into a single shape? Have fun! --NaBUru38 (talk) 18:38, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 15 Suitcase - Multiple concepts 2
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editOption 16 Red Suitcase
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#2 candidat without "Wikipedian" text
Simple idea. With "Wikivoyage".
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edit- --Svebert (talk) 07:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Lvova (talk) 18:49, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Johan Jönsson (talk) 17:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC). As a concept I find this very similar to one of my favorites, Option 8, so I guess I approve of this one too.
- Supporting my idea. Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 16:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- No, I do not get any "travel" feeling from this, nor any Wikimedia feeling. Riggwelter (talk) 20:26, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is neat as it stands here. Somehow i think the suitcase-concept is a good idea but the green-blue-red suitcases from above didnt „turn me on“ ;-). But this red one makes references to the old logo and it looks great (proportions and writing). Btw. what's this white line in the middle of the suitcase?--Svebert (talk) 07:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- White line=Wikipedian Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 17:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- You should make a svg-version out of it--Svebert (talk) 16:53, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- White line=Wikipedian Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 17:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 17 Blue and Yellow Compass Rose
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edit- Color can be adjusted if it's not acceptable. LtPowers (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
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edit- No, this does not stick out. Riggwelter (talk) 20:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Agree colors are not primary enough Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:03, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yellow should be avoided when possible, as there are no yellow pixels in screens, and therefore different people will see vastly different shades. Sven Manguard (talk) 03:42, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- But this picture is already widely used in many wikis as a symbol for the Disambiguation. Raoli 18:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- No! Too similar with the logo of the NATO-OTAN! --Denghiù (talk) 08:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Like. Guiding star. Navigator's star. Excellent symbolism. Yes, it is a little similar to NATO. A logo should work in black and white because sometimes it will be represented without color or in a monochrome material. (I also like #Option 6 Compass Rose - No Letter) --Rogerhc (talk)
Option 18 Green Globe
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edit- No, too bland. Riggwelter (talk) 20:28, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Agree. Not sure what could be done to spice it up. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Option 19 Compass Rose Variation
editTwo variations with the Compass rose. Lionel Allorge (talk) 16:09, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
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edit- --β16 - (talk) 08:19, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Pilettes (talk) 09:22, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Casual (talk) 10:31, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Inas (talk) 09:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- LtPowers (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- Variation #1 Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 10:36, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Quedel (talk) 21:10, 11 November 2012 (UTC) (Number 2)
- Variation #1 --Dirk Schmidt (talk) 13:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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edit- No, 5 colours are at least one too many. Riggwelter (talk) 20:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- I would say that neither black nor white really counts as colors. Thus this is really only 3 colors. I like it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:02, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- First thing I saw when I saw version 2 was "Swastika". Sorry, but I felt it needed to be said, since I won't be the only one to see it. Sven Manguard (talk) 03:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Huh? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- The second version, without clear borders really do look strange. the first version also have some resemblance of some kind of optical illusion. It makes me confused, but that could be an interesting touch. /Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:31, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Doc James: See File:Option 12 eye lines.png. This is also Sven Manguard (talk) 20:51, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Was never good with optical illusions. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:58, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Doc James: See File:Option 12 eye lines.png. This is also Sven Manguard (talk) 20:51, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- The second version, without clear borders really do look strange. the first version also have some resemblance of some kind of optical illusion. It makes me confused, but that could be an interesting touch. /Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:31, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Uhm. Me too. Przykuta (talk) 18:17, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- +1 Second version is not good. Lantus (talk) 21:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Huh? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:48, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Especially option 1 is also uncomfortably close to the NATO logo, IMHO. --Mulleflupp (talk) 13:16, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 20 Arrow Bird around the Planet
editAn arrow-bird around a planet
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edit- version 3 --Don-kun (talk) 10:19, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Luigi.tuby (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- v4, but the blue arrow thick as in v5. Really beautiful. --Pequod76(talk) 13:56, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Nicolabel (talk) 21:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Carnildo (talk) 01:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Rupertsciamenna (talk) 10:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- I like it, though it's really close to the Meta-Wiki logo (you should take care of this when designing a logo for round 2 based on this). --YMS (talk) 12:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 4 --Shizhao (talk) 12:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Filzstift (talk) 19:32, 2 November 2012 (UTC) version 5
- Edoderoo (talk) 21:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC) this makes it clear: a wikimedia project!
- 2 or 3 are good. - εΔω 14:41, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- I like version 3 most. --NaBUru38 (talk) 18:49, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Romaine (talk) 02:54, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Version 3 --Nyan ∗ Dog 12:13, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Version 3 or 5 -- Sir Gawain (talk) 17:04, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 2 or 3. --Denghiù (talk) 09:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 3 --Ermanon (talk) 16:04, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support Version 3 or 4. --Idh0854 (talk) 23:35, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 2 or 3. Thayvian (talk) 05:35, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- 3 --Emha (talk) 10:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- LtPowers (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- --Aushulz (talk) 00:13, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 5 --Waithamai (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Shaundd (talk) 01:15, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support 5 - Cardboardbird (talk) 13:25, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Version 3, 4 or 5. Kertraon (talk) 13:30, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Version 3. Kertraon (talk) 13:30, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- I like version 3.Patriciadedo 16:15, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 3 Emperyan-message/ileti-WMTR 15:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- I think this has potential. To me, the bird/plane arrow says global travel, movement/freedom and all encompassing (as in the guides include the whole world) which explains what the site is all about. Not too sure about the red dot though (Maybe it looks like a city location on a map?) - Cardboardbird (talk) 01:09, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- The arrow should point upwards, not downwards…--Aschmidt (talk) 02:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- I dislike the red dot, but to me this has potential otherwise. Sven Manguard (talk) 03:40, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- This surely has some potential, I like the iconic earth, it is a bit of Pan-AM over it. The arrow is great (probably should point up, or is it supposed to be a "v"), I have thought of having one across the globe, but around it looks nice when you have that iconic earth. I do not get that red dot either, maybe move it to the edge of the globe as an experiment. I we make two different-coloured points on two sides of the globe and the arrow between, we have the logo for a airline-router! /Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:29, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments. The arrow is a bird too, so if it point upwards, I loose this idea. But of course, it can be change for an upward movement if a rising spirit is better. Isatis78 (talk) 21:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, this makes me think of the free daily paper Metro, well-known in some 14 countries... Riggwelter (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- The source is the Wikimedia Community logo. Isatis78 (talk) 20:42, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Way too close to the Meta Wiki logo IMHO --Belteral (talk) 20:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Too close to the metro logo indeed, and also makes me rather think about a news website than a travel website. Effeietsanders (talk) 09:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
- v2 has a nice "around the globe"-feeling. v3 could be a bit strange, you leave the same place as you travel to "there is no place better than home?". v4 is great in that aspect, you will return home but first you will make stops on the way. If we want to focus on traveling away, I guess you should remove two of the blue segments in v4./Johan Jönsson (talk) 15:26, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like version 3 most, the white gap helps a lot to see the circle and arrow. How about adding more dots and arrows around the map? (I'd put 3 or 5 5 distributed evenly) Also, please make the blue stripe fade out on the opposite side of the arrow, it helps to give the feeling of travelling. Great work! --NaBUru38 (talk) 12:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- I really like the way this logo is progressing. Version 5 brings together all the good aspects of the others and is looking quite refined as it is. - Cardboardbird (talk) 13:12, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, this is almost identical to Meta's logo. It has the exact same green globe, and a circle around it. –sumone10154(talk) 04:25, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- Exercise: A mistake is hidden above. Will you able to find out the error? V!v£ l@ Rosière /Murmurer…/ 09:43, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 21 Signpost Variation 1
editNew idea. Signpost - Simply and clear. Digr (talk) 19:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Support
edit- v2 Przykuta (talk) 08:59, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- v5 --β16 - (talk) 08:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 5 --CroMagnon (talk) 20:49, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 5 --Ermanon (talk) 16:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Gálaniitoluodda (talk) 10:38, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- I really like the signpost idea and had been thinking about trying one of my own. Something looks a little off about this one, though; maybe it's the uniform lengths on the left. LtPowers (talk) 13:53, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- I like the general idea. I think that maybe we need the signs pointing in more than 2 directions, though. Plus the bulb at the top looks a little off-centre. JamesA (talk) 04:24, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have integrated your idea with the signpost in Option 8: picture 27 --Bin im Garten (talk) 12:24, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nice, you can see a more detailed signpost in my suggestion Option 18
- Uhm. Good because simply, near square, well scalable. Przykuta (talk) 19:43, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Have you thought about filling the signs? Or are you planning to put text inside the signs? Version 4 with the backward sign looks a bit strange. Maybe you could find some inspiration in this wikidata-proposal: [5]/Johan Jönsson (talk) 20:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Without text. By the way, this wiki data logo is cool, we can use idea with arrows instead points. Digr (talk) 17:34, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
- v2 is clear, IMO better than first Przykuta (talk) 20:21, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I also got tempted to make variants like v9 and v10 but they look too much like paper clips. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johan Jönsson (talk)
- I like v9, very minimalistic. --Bin im Garten (talk) 21:03, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Option 22 Signpost Variation 2
editNew idea. Signpost - Simply and clear. Digr (talk) 19:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
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editOption 23 Signpost Variation 3
editNew idea. Signpost - Simply and clear. Digr (talk) 19:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Support
edit- --Bin im Garten (talk) 23:08, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- --Goldzahn (talk) 10:04, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Fresh and interesting idea. Very stylish and cute. --Atsirlin (talk) 23:34, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Reminds me too much of a paper clip. Gestumblindi (talk) 20:10, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 24 Birds, Arrows and Books
editBirds+Arrows+Book (and Earth on version 1). Isatis78 (talk) 11:22, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
New versions with more explicit Earth and landmark. Isatis78 (talk) 19:21, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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edit- The idea is very very good. I'd put green on the background circle. --Pequod76(talk) 13:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support - The best one of all proposals. Version 4 ist my first choice. -- DerFussi 11:18, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
- Husky (talk) 21:21, 2 November 2012 (UTC) - Me likes.
- --Pakeha (talk) 07:53, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- The idea is great, but the pictures might be unclear. --פדיחה (talk) 18:07, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- --NaBUru38 (talk) 18:48, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent concept; I also like v4 the best so far.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 01:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Nice concept. Version 4 is so far the best. --Elekhh (talk) 23:18, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
- It needs some refining but is a great concept to work with on the whole. JamesA (talk) 06:45, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Version 1! Thayvian (talk) 05:37, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- Kpjas (talk) 00:33, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- LtPowers (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- 4 --Waithamai (talk) 00:19, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- 2 Nicolas1981 (talk) 03:24, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Jmvkrecords (Intracorrespondencia) 15:16, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- 3 or 4, needs the background circle. Mutante (talk) 16:40, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- version 3, –Krinkletalk 02:45, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- Nice concept. V!v£ l@ Rosière /Murmurer…/ 09:45, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support --Bergfalke2 (talk) 17:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
# 3 or 4 --Шнапс (talk) 07:27, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- It also somewhat represents a plane, which is a big plus! I like the first one, but maybe it needs more colours. It also just doesn't seem to specifically refer to travel on first glance. JamesA (talk) 04:17, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Unique and looks designed, could be a good logo for an airway. Leaves some space for imagination, what is it really.. (btw n.o 2 looks like a dervish dancer on a flying carpet or a fountain)./Johan Jönsson (talk) 15:30, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Versions 3 and 4 are really cool! It's a perfect combination of a plane and a book. Plus, the open book gives a feeling of freedom and openess. Can you try a version in perspective more or less like option 19, with the plane travelling to the right? And can you try changing the circle to a planet like other logos, that is adding the meridians and parallels while keeping the same light blue colour? Thanks! --NaBUru38 (talk) 12:20, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
- Some of them are looking like Batman is flying to you! --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 22:36, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Option 25 Suitcase with Signpost
editCombination of Option 8 and Option 15. Compare with other logos: -