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Welcome to Meta!

Hello Jafeluv, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing! Cirt (talk) 04:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Cirt (talk) 04:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Jafeluv 09:57, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Tusen takk

I'd just like to point out that "Tusen takk!" is more idiomatic.[1] "Tack så mycket!" is common in Swedish. Decltype 21:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, that might be because I only know Swedish :P Languages don't really translate word-for-word, do they? Thanks for the correction. Jafeluv 21:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah, that makes sense. I don't think anyone who argue that the two are more or less the same language, have tried writing anything substantial in both :) Decltype 21:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


Hi, Jafeluv! I've read the link you gave me and everything was ok. You've done a wonderful job! ;) Regards, --Góngora (TES) 18:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Yay! Thanks for having a look. Jafeluv 19:13, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


On the Dutch projects we link to a page on nl-wiki about redirects because these projects are in Dutch language and not in English. So please don't touch these templates, we have pages in Dutch ourselves which work perfectly fine and we do not want to be bound to other non-Dutch speaking projects. Thank you! Greetings - Romaine 19:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I figured that it would be better to link to a general page instead of a Wikipedia-specific one since there might be issues that are only relevant in Wikipedia but not elsewhere. If you guys prefer to have it on Wikipedia, that's of course fine as well. Cheers, Jafeluv 08:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I corrected your Dutch text and added some text as well Patio 20:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Jafeluv 08:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


Jafe, the words are fine, however the picture is a bit disturbing, we have #Alih instead of redirect. Romaine up there can back me up when I told you I'm not technologically savvy, if you would like to change anything, techy, I think you should talk to someone else in WP ID. 10:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for having a look. You're right that the image may not be very helpful since it's in English. I'll remove it from the page. I don't intend to make any technical changes, though. It's just a centralized documentation page for different projects in case they wish to use it. Jafeluv 10:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Global rollback

Hi, you have been granted global rollback rights. Use them wisely. Cheers, --Mercy 07:56, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Jafeluv 09:19, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Postings on ro:Wiki

You have posted the following files on ro:wiki. ro:Utilizator:Jafeluv/vector.js and ro:Utilizator:Jafeluv/monobook.js the latter being proposed for deletion. We have difficulties in understanding if these files are necessary or not in Ro:Wiki. There are no interlingual links showing how the information is used in other languages. Please respond on my user's page in en:wiki or ro:wiki. Thanks Afil 19:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


Here too :) (I see you sorted the en wp contribution) --Herby talk thyme 10:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Jafeluv 11:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

hr wikisource

Is there some reason for this? Thanks! SpeedyGonsales 15:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi SpeedyGonsales. I simply noticed that the page had been tagged for deletion for almost two months and wanted to help out. The content was just those two words as you can see. Of course, I have no problem with restoring the page if you think I've made a mistake. Jafeluv 16:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

How to delete a user page

Hi, I am Henriku, I am active especially on the Upper Sorbian Wp. (hornjoserbsce), sometimes I collaborate on some other projects, last year I have founded the Sardinian Wiktionary. I should like to leave some projects, more concretely the CZECH Wikipedia (česky) and the HEBREW one. I see you have just deleted a user page of a Japanese user, Tiyoringo, on the Upper Sorbian Wp., on his own request. It is for the first time I see a user page deleted. Could you advice me how to proceed in order to leave the two projects, please? What reason should I write into the Delete template? Thank you, --Henriku 16:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Henriku. In most projects you can just put the template {{delete}} on your user page if you want to have it removed, and once a sysop comes by they will delete it for you. User talk pages, on the other hand, are not usually deleted without a good reason. The relevant policy in the Czech Wikipedia is here. Jafeluv 16:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Jafeluv, I have put the template on the two user pages. Thank you very much. If I can help you sometime, you are welcome. --Henriku 17:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
No problem :) Jafeluv 17:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Private question

What did "help your case" stay for? --Juhko 17:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

"Auttaisi asiaasi", or something like that. Jafeluv 17:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Mikä asia? --Juhko 17:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Meinasin että ensi kerralla olisi helpompi harkita kannattamista jos jättäisit sukkanukkeilun pois ja keskittyisit rakentavaan muokkaamiseen. En usko että pelkkä estettynä oleminen sinänsä on mikään este globaaleille oikeuksille, mutta kyllä siitä pitää pystyä vakuuttumaan että sotkemiset ja sukkanukkeilut on jätetty taakse eikä sellaista tapahdu enää. Jafeluv 17:22, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
No sit en edes harkitse mitään. Vedän tuon pois äänestyksistä. --Juhko 17:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Rakentavaan muokkaamiseen keskity sukkanukkeilematta wikissä jossa vandaali ylläpitäjä on estäny??? --Juhko 17:29, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
En tunne koko historiaa, mutta sanoisin että unohda koko fiwiki. Kyllä wikimediassa projekteja riittää. Oma valintasi tietysti. Jafeluv 17:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Jaha, että tällainen keskustelu. Juhko vandalisoi fiwikissä saadakseen ikuisen eston. Tässä keskustelua ajalta, jolloin joku Juhkon estoista oli juuri päättynyt: fi:Keskustelu_käyttäjästä:Otrfan/Arkisto5#Asiallinen_kysymys. Välillä käyttäjä on tosin vaatinut joko eston poistoa tai ikuista estoa, tai muuten hän jatkaa sotkemista:[2]. Nykyinen neljän vuoden esto on kompromissi siitä väliltä. --Otrfan 03:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, mielenkiintoista. Kiitos linkistä. Jafeluv 07:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for helping us. Could you please block this user too? --yabancım 20:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem! Apparently I already did. You can report stuff like this at the Vandalism reports page if it happens again. Regards, Jafeluv 20:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks again for the information. That's what I'll do if it happens again. --yabancım 20:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Administrator!

Deutsch | English | español | français | italiano | 한국어 | Nederlands | português | русский | العربية | edit

An offering for our new administrator from your comrades... (our budget is smaller than Commons)

Jafeluv, congratulations! You now have the rights of administrator on Meta. Please take a moment to read the Meta:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat, and Meta:Requests for deletion, but also Talk:Spam blacklist and Talk:Interwiki map), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings, or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care.

A tip: add this page Meta:Administrators' discussion index to your watchlist, it tracks the latest activity to various sections of many of the important pages.

Please feel free to join us on IRC: #wikimedia-admin @ You may find Commons:Guide to adminship to be useful reading although it doesn't always completely apply here at Meta.

Please also check or add your entry to Meta:Administrators#List_of_administrators and the Template:List of administrators.

-Barras 13:41, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Jafeluv 14:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Jafeluv. Turkish wikipedia has reached 150.000 articles. A new and temporary logo was offered for this. The community accepted, but I don't know how to change it. I will appreciate it if you could help. Thanks in advance. --yabancım 10:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi! The logo displayed in the top corner is tr:Dosya:Wiki.png. You can upload a new version there. Jafeluv 10:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
So that's it? Thanks a lot :) --yabancım 10:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
And now I see that didn't work :o It seems to have worked earlier, though (according to the file history). Let me have a closer look... Jafeluv 10:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
And I was about to ask you why did that happen. Could it be anything about the job queue? Anyway, I'm waiting for your response. --yabancım 10:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
According to this page, changing the Wiki.png file should be enough. I'm not sure that page is very up to date, though. Also, the old version is actually not even identical to the one shown in the top corner (that one looks like tr:Dosya:Wikipedia-logo-v2-tr.png), so there's probably something else that needs to be done... Maybe you should file a request at Bugzilla and ask for the logo to be changed. Jafeluv 10:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Do you think I should upload the new logo as a new version of tr:Dosya:Wikipedia-logo-v2-tr.png this time? I thought if that doesn't work, then bugzilla maybe the answer. --yabancım 10:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
The requests for logos page suggests uploading the new logo as Wiki.png (which you have done) and then making a Bugzilla request to make the site use that file instead of the default (which I guess is Wikipedia-logo-v2-tr.png). Try making a Bugzilla request, and if the procedure has changed from what's documented on the Meta page I'm sure they'll tell you what to do to get the logo changed. Jafeluv 11:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
I will try what you've suggested. The thing is, I did't use bugzilla before. Now I'm creating an account and starting :) Hope it's not complicated. If I succeed, I'll let you know. Thanks a lot again. --yabancım 11:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Me again :) I filed a request bugzilla. However the users in have the similar opinion with me about uploading the new file as a new version of tr:Dosya:Wikipedia-logo-v2-tr.png. We could at least try. As an admin in Commons, can you please do that? --yabancım 12:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
    I don't think reuploading the new version in Commons is a good idea, since the logo is in use in many other projects as well. Replacing it would mean that there would be no way for anyone to use the old version. If you want to try reuploading that file, you could of course do it locally in trwiki under the same name so that it overwrites the Commons file. Jafeluv 12:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
  • I see. I just tried what you've said and nothing changed. I decided to wait for a while. --yabancım 12:55, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for my interfering, but IMO it is easier to let an sysop change the pic on the on the main page than reuploading. --WizardOfOz talk 12:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, but the image is not defined in the main page code, is it? The top corner image is shown on every page in the wiki, not just the main page. Jafeluv 13:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
You are right, i just saw that is not included and i can´t find it even in the mainpage templates where it can be changed. --WizardOfOz talk 13:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
  • We finally figure it out yesterday :) The logo has changed after we insert a line to this page. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help. --yabancım 09:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
    Nice! Be sure to close the Bugzilla request since I guess it's no longer relevant. And congratulations on reaching an important milestone :) Jafeluv 09:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for this edit. CnkALTDS 12:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem :) Jafeluv 12:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your upload

I'm not the original uploader. --Nemo 08:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Now I should have fixed it with revdeletion. Well, yes, I'm a bit surprised as well by that screenshot, but since the most "affected" user is the uploader and the email sender didn't complain... Anyway I've warned the uploader, he might have changed his mind. --Nemo 09:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)


Hi Jafeluv, Would you mind taking another look at my RfA and maybe re-considering your decision in light of the new information? I have taken steps to address the issue you raised. Thanks. Theo10011 20:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I'll take another look later today. Jafeluv 07:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Jafeluv, I really appreciate you reconsidering. BTW I hope you didn't take any offense, I only meant more edits on Meta [3] and [4], I wasnt comparing my contribution with yours, Sorry If it seemed like that, I was just pointing out that we are nearly on the same footing on Meta in terms of qualification for an RfA. Thanks again.Theo10011 19:58, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
No worries :) Good luck in your RfA. Jafeluv 20:10, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Your help

Would be much appreciated! Return of the 2006 Sensation 07:18, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

It seems you figured out how to use the unblock template. Someone more knowledgeable on the situation should handle it shortly. I posted on Bsadowski1's page on enwiki so that they're aware of your request. Regards, Jafeluv 08:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! I hope this admin realizes he made a minor mistake. And that he needs to correct it so we can all move on. Return of the 2006 Sensation 08:13, 13 October 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for dropping by and tagging a spammy user page: it is now deleted. --InfantGorilla 20:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Jafeluv 20:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Help please re. Renaming

Hi there. I'm having the greatest difficulty in understanding correct protocol for Username renaming. Where do I put in my request for English Wikipedia? I went to Wikipedia:Changing username, but am told specifically on that page to not enter requests there. The only specific direction I see on that page is to put a request on Meta-wiki, which I did, but was then told by you that I need to do it differently. I'm sorry I'm so retarded at this. Can you please help? Thank you! Sayitrecords 19:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Don't worry about it, the procedures really are a little confusing. If the username you want to use is not already taken on enwiki, you can post a request at w:Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple (just follow the instructions at the top of the page). Let me know if you need help filling out the request :) By the way, the Meta-Wiki page is only used for projects that do not yet have any users with sufficient rights to perform renames, or if all such users on the project are unavailable. Hope this helps, Jafeluv 14:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I followed your instructions and it seems to have gone through OK. Do you know how long it will take to confirm? Thanks again! Sayitrecords 03:39, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
It shouldn't take long unless there's some problem with the rename. Just remember to watch the request page in case they need some additional information. Jafeluv 03:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


I'll look, thanks for the inform. es:Magister Mathematicae 19:22, 30 October 2010 (UTC) request

Hi, Jafe. This pattern (project namespace + "talk" in the local language) is used in many, many projects, and it's the regular form. Maybe we could later use the Vikipedio pattern (namespace with "-a", instead of "-o" + "diskuto"). It would not be a problem, but it has to be a project decision. And a Wikipedia decision is not a Wikisource decision and not a Wikinews decision, and it doesn't apply to them automatically. Note that Wikibooks, Wikiquote and Wiktionary use the regular form. We must decide this in the project, and it's perfectly possible to change it in the future. All we have to do is put a request in bugzilla, after the discussion. And there's no such urgence on it, we'll have many other things to do now (see below). CasteloBrancomsg 23:25, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah, ok. It didn't occur to me to check what the other projects were doing, and it seems that at least Wikiquote and Wiktionary indeed use the -o form. I think the -a form is better grammar, but you're right that this is something that should be discussed in the project :) Jafeluv 23:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Fundamento de Esperanto

Jafe, how should we better categorize a multilingual source like that? I couldn't find a solution for this. Do you think we must categorize it as Esperanto source, in order to let it be imported to eo.wikisource? It seems to be more rationale. I can do it by bot/semi-bot, if you agree. CasteloBrancomsg 23:27, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

P.S. I'm talking about the djuv files, because the source itself is already categorized in Esperanto subcategory. Do you think we must import them too? CasteloBrancomsg 23:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
It's always difficult with multilingual works... :S The English, French etc. chapters should obviously stay in their subdomains, and the Antaŭparolo is clearly written for an Esperanto speaker so it can be safely moved to eo.wikisource. The Ekzercaro and Vortaro chapters are more complicated, since they have explanations in multiple languages and are meant for someone who speaks one of those languages rather than for an Esperanto speaker... On the other hand it would make no sense to leave them on oldwikisource since all six languages present on the pages already have their own subdomain. Maybe it would be the best solution to just transfer the multilingual chapters to eo.wikisource and link to that page from other projects. Jafeluv 23:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Jafe, sorry for the "flood" =). I saw your Vikifontaro logo and I was thinking: is it difficult to do? What software do you use for it? How could you find the correct font type? We also need Esperanto logos for Vikilibroj, Vikicitaro, and now the Vikinovajxoj and I think we should correct this. Again, it don't need to be done right now, it's necessary to discuss it in the projects before making a request for the change in Bugzilla, but I would appreciate your help. CasteloBrancomsg 00:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I used GIMP and the font is bolded Times New Roman. I'm not sure what the "proper" font should be (maybe this? what is it?), but I can redo the logo if someone has a better suggestion :) I'll see what I can do about the other projects. Jafeluv 07:49, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Jafe, this is great! I'll propose it right now. Dankego. CasteloBrancomsg 03:37, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Could you take a look at that? The logo was changed today. The Wikinews was changed, too. Now we have eo-logos in Wikipedia, Wikibooks and Wikinews. The Wikiquote and Wikiversity are missing, and maybe the Wiktionary eo-logo will not be used, because the official logo has changed. But I'm here to thank you very much for your help and support. With eo.wikisource finally approved and almost created (the eo.wikinews took nine days at bugzilla), soon the pages at oldwikisource will be moved, and I hope you keep editing on the proper domain. Hugs, CasteloBrancomsg 02:52, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
That's great. (Maybe I'll try to make something later for Wikiquote as well.) As for Wikisource, it was nice to see they hadn't completely forgotten the request :) Jafeluv 09:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)



...for the translation. --WizardOfOz talk 00:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you as well, and good luck :) Jafeluv 12:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


Thank you for your translation. I appreciate it. Bennylin 03:22, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem :) Jafeluv 12:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind

I made it a new section. Regards (& good luck :)) --Herby talk thyme 10:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Works for me :P Jafeluv 10:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

hr wikiquote

Please do not put content on language other than used by Wikimedia project in Template namespace, as that is neither common nor necessary. Thank you! SpeedyGonsales 23:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

For that particular template that's actually pretty common, but I'll try to get a Croatian-language template made at some point. Jafeluv 00:08, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Redirect created. No problem at all ;) SpeedyGonsales 04:36, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks :) Jafeluv 08:39, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi Jafeluv, I just translated your statement into Shqip, just wanted to wish you luck!

Kolrok | Msgs © 20:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Jafeluv 20:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


Your oppose vote did not give any reasons. Do you mind explaining your reasoning, so I know which areas to address in the future (or so I can provide further explanation for you that might change your mind?) SWATJester Son of the Defender 22:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Sure. My oppose was based on the combination of your being monolingual and having somewhat limited crosswiki experience. I can see you're an experienced and trusted user, and monolinguality in itself is not necessarily a deal-breaker for me, but stewards often have to deal with crosswiki issues and it's important that they have enough experience in that sort of work. In any case, good luck in the election! Jafeluv 00:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Would you consider swaying your vote if I could assuage the concern about crosswiki experience? Much of my staff and behind-the-scenes volunteer work involves work across various projects (and languages), but isn't necessarily visible by edit counts. If not, I understand. Regards, and thanks for the reply. SWATJester Son of the Defender 01:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I understand, but I'm afraid it doesn't change my position. Regards, Jafeluv 12:54, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


Great! Thank you for this on my page.” Teles (Talk @ C G) 21:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem :) Jafeluv 22:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi! Thanks for the welcome. I'm only planning to vote on the steward elections for the moment, but if I were to come back to meta, is there anything that needs doing. I know it's a silly question, but any suggestions would be appreciated WormTT 10:00, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Why would it be a silly question? :) Meta:About Meta is a good place to start, and has links to other important pages like our policies etc. If you're interested in translations, you can contribute to Translation requests and Translation of the week. If not, you can look at other cleanup tasks, participate in discussions at Meta:Babel, or find something that interests you on the Goings-on page. Jafeluv 11:08, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I'll have a look if when I've next got a free hour or two. Unfortunately I'm a monolinguist - though I can vaguely understand a lot of the latin/greek based languages, I'm sure I'll find something to do WormTT 13:44, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


Good to see the result :) Regards --Herby talk thyme 08:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) And congratulations on your appointment as well! Jafeluv 09:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


Hi. Congratulations on becoming a steward. Please contact me so you could give me your email address, so that I can add you to stewards-l. --FiliP ██ 10:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I've sent you an email. Jafeluv 10:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Congratulations ! VonTasha 17:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks :) Jafeluv 18:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Steward election 2011

Hello! I responded to you here on my userpage. Congratulations on your election to stewardship! Blue Rasberry (talk) 03:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for the very speedy response with deleting this - very impressive, and much appreciated. :-) Mike Peel 08:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Jafeluv 09:04, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Different topic, but still bots

Please re-read this and the diff you put in. It still allows automatic approval. And repliedon my tp. -Barras 09:29, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I've reverted for now. I'll continue on your talk to keep the discussion in one place. Jafeluv 09:33, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Global block have anonymous only, see [5]--Shizhao 13:41, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


Flag granted, Congrats. --WizardOfOz talk 20:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Jafeluv 21:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Sanskrit wikisource

Hi, The import is done. I have imported all the pages that I could locate. Please let me know in case I missed something--Shijualex 09:44, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for your work. I'll let oldwikisource admins know that the pages can be deleted from there. Oh, you already did :) Jafeluv 09:58, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Re:Skype plugin

I would never imagine that the extension could cause this. I've already disabled the feature responsible for highlighting phone numbers, so it won't happen again. Thanks very much for notifying me and fixing it :) ThiagoRuiz 16:51, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Viimehetken muutoksia

Muokkaajakyselyyn tuli vielä viimehetken muutoksia, viitsisitköhän käydä oikolukemassa käännökseni ja laittamassa sitten ready-tilaan? Kiitos!! --Olli 16:09, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Sinne meni, tein vielä pari pikku muutosta. Toivottavasti mitään ei hajonnut :P Jafeluv 18:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


Hi thanks for thisMpmayenge ,but I cant seem to log in the Sw:wp? Mpmayenge 11:32, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Your account was only renamed on Meta. If you want to rename it on sw.wikipedia as well, please ask one of the bureaucrats to do it. Regards, Jafeluv 12:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)


Salam. Mən və User:Vugar 1981 və digər bəzi iş yoldaşlarımız eyni IP-dən istifadə edirik. EnVikidə Vugar 1981-nin bloklanması nəticəsində bizim IP-də bloklanmışdır. Sizdən blokun götürülməsini xahiş edirəm. Və yaxud da mənə Ipblock-exempt istifadəçi hüququ verməyinizi xahiş edirəm. Təşəkkürlər! Hörmətlə, Cekli829 08:09, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

RE: Yes Template

Hi Jafeluv,

I looked at Template:Yes, which states that "Note that in many places, such as Steward requests/Global permissions, the use of this template is reserved for stewards. Feel free to use {{support}} instead." The documentation seems to have been created by yourself, unless you were importing from somewhere/restoring deleted edits? :)


The Helpful One 22:51, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I wrote it. Why? Jafeluv 22:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
For reference, looks like the issue has been discussed here, referring to some long-standing practice. Jafeluv 06:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for Bureaucrat Access

Dear Jafeluv,

Thank you for providing me Bureaucratic Access. I am committed to act for the community development and all ways upliftment of Nepali Wiki. My friend Bhawani and me will act together with regular consultation.

Regards -गणेश पौडेल 01:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Vandalisme on the both Sorbian Wikipedias

Hello, Jafeluv. Thanks you for your deleting of vandalism on the both Sorbian wikipedias. I just blocked the users. Greetings --Tlustulimu 17:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Oppression in Chinese wikipedia

I have posted a cases about oppression in Chinese wikipedia. Looking forward to your assisstance, recommendations or justify. Thank you very much.--Coekon 08:16, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. Jafeluv 08:18, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


Please unblock in latvian vikipedia. I don't vandalise in latvian vikipedia.-- 15:01, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

You'd have to ask an lvwiki admin. However, given your crosswiki edits they would probably think twice before unblocking you locally. Jafeluv 15:08, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Can't edit lvwiki admin talk pages, because I'm globally blocked.-- 15:42, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
I wish that I am globally blocked forever.-- 18:23, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with SUL

Thank you for your time and your help with my request on [6].

Now I have arranged most of the wiki username usurpations.
Only, has denied my request because a matter of time.
Thanks again --Moises 18:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
No problem :) Glad that the issue got resolved(ish). Jafeluv 07:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Belarusian Wikisource request

Re: pl:Dyskusja wikipedysty:Electron#Belarusian Wikisource request

Hi! I have actualised this figure several times and nobody protested. But OK. I can change this... Electron 08:35, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. I think it looks clearer now. Jafeluv 08:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Checkuser on Litter@zh.wikipedia

Following your reply, I've left a message in the checkuser page, which is quickly archived in Steward requests/Checkuser/2011-07#Litter@zh.wikipedia. --Mewaqua 18:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


Re [7] -- If I understood correctly you want to edit Steward requests/Speedy deletions/Bot-reported. In the description text there's a link for watching that page or editing it. Or maybe I didn't caught it... Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 19:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I know there's a link in the description, but I think the section edit link should still link to the section, not the header. Was there something wrong with having it on top of the /Bot-reported page instead of the /Header subpage? Jafeluv 21:55, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

hr wikipedia bot policy clarification


I removed this because Laaknor and Rubin16 wrote incorrect information, as at the time we were just discussing "what to do" with bots, so before end of discussion it was simply not true that global bots were allowed (if I recall it correctly).

Wikipedija:Prijedlog_dopune_pravila_dodjele_statusa_botovima is discussion page with voting results at the end (8:7 for allowance of work of global bots - they are allowed to work, 0:14 for allowance of bot status on meta - stewards are not permitted to grant bot status on hr wiki).

Wikipedija:Botovi is both (very short) description of what bots are and what they do, and our bot policy (slightly adapted standard bot policy from meta).

Sorry for delay, if you need more info you know where to ask ;) Kind regards! SpeedyGonsales 21:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty, thanks for the clarification :) Jafeluv 07:28, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Help required with SUL rename

I have filed the request to rename my SUL alias as per procedure in here. I am told to get that done for each project separately by the local-bureaucrats, but more than half of those don't have crats [complete list]. Plus, I'm not sure if that conflicts with my Unified Login. Please guide me through it, I'm not sure which step to take.

You can reply at my wikipedia talk page, or you can reply here & leave a talkback, as per your preference. Thanks in advance. Deblopper 11:37, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Responded there. Jafeluv 12:22, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


  Thank you for making my statement available in Finnish! I just want to know that your translation is appreciated. Bennylin 16:21, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Glad to help :) Jafeluv 17:50, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks as well for your translation :) a×pdeHello! 23:31, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
P.S.: There was indeed a bug with "or" in the template, fixed it! a×pdeHello! 09:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I was wondering what caused that... Good luck to you both! Jafeluv 09:16, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


Hi Jafeluv. Could you please take a look at this g-block req. and this req. for 4 g-locks? Thanks in advance. Regards, Trijnstel 23:30, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I've done the first, and left a comment on the other. Jafeluv 06:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


Hi Jafeluv, I once was corrected by DerHexer, see this difflink. Regards a×pdeHello! 11:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Some people feel that steward opinions should be given more weight at SRGP, which is why {{yes}} is reserved for stewards on that page. Some have even suggested that global user rights should not be given out unless the request is endorsed by stewards (see eg. here). I don't agree with this, but respect the consensus that the template can only be used by stewards on that page. However, I don't think anyone considers Meta RfA's to be an area where steward opinion would count more than the average voter. It would make no sense to reserve the use of that or any other template for stewards in local adminship discussions. Jafeluv 11:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


Såg din redigering på s:sv:

Hur länge har det här tillägget funnits? -- Lavallen 18:50, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Ungefär 5 timmar, om jag förstår rätt. Jag hörde om det på fi.wikis bybrunnen. Jafeluv 19:01, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Ok, då gäller bara att klura ut hur den fungerar! -- Lavallen 19:09, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


Hi sir, About this application, I have made about 100 edits at Interwikis. Isn't it enough to have bot flag?--Mohamed ElGedawy Talk 23:29, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Done by Ruslik :) Jafeluv 10:03, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I added my bot status request 20 August, not yesterday.

Regards, Przemub 16:53, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that's right. Sorry, I was confused about the history for some reason. Jafeluv 10:03, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


For the explanation, I was just wondering that someone with more than 100000 edits would do something like this with some intention. --WizardOfOz talk 10:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

It's just a guess, but glad to help :) Jafeluv 10:04, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


Våra Checkusers ser ut att åtminstone tillfälligt vara inaktiva. Vi har en begäran om ip-koll uppe just nu. Eftersom en av de berörda användarna är uppe för adminval, så är det inte en optimal situation. Finns det ngn möjlighet att ngn Steward kan blanda sig i? -- Lavallen 09:33, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Om det finns lokala IP-kontrollanter i projektet, stewarder kan tyvärr göra IP-kontroller endast i nödfall. Kanske du kan fråga Dcastor, han verkar vara aktiv...? Jafeluv 20:41, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Resignation and return

Hello , If an administrator resigned , Can he return after some months and achieve the administeration powers? --Persisch 19:24, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi! That depends on the local policy. If there are bureaucrats in the project, you can ask them. If not, and if there's no local policy, try making a request at the permissions page. Jafeluv 20:44, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


Hi, i have global bot and i want to run it in template name space is it to change my standard code or its problem is solved? does it need other request?Reza1615 09:36, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Reza1615. According to the policy, you can use your global bot in template namespace if it only fixes interwiki links or double redirects. However, if you intend to do something else than that, you need to apply for a local bot bit and get consensus for the bot task first. Jafeluv 09:55, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi,according to en:Wikipedia:Bot_policy#Interwiki_links . i don't know is at this time is solved this problem or not? and if this standard code is not useful which code i should use for adding interwiki to templates?Reza1615 12:38, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
The problem with iw-linking templates is that you have to make sure that the links are inside <noinclude> tags, otherwise they will appear as interwiki links on every page that transcludes the template. I don't know how pywikipedia deals with the issue, though -- you could try asking someone who runs a pywikipedia bot, maybe. Jafeluv 12:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


[8] for some reason I thought the template was orphaned. Not sure how that one page slipped by me.--Doug.(talk contribs) 22:15, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

No worries. I was just confused to see the transcluding page in the deletion category and it took me a minute to figure out what was going on :) Jafeluv 10:24, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

not all Wiki

Hey Jafeluv, account Erik FestMan only log in Meta and not other Wikimedia. --Erik FestMan 12:51, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Erik, if you want to be renamed on other wikis you need to ask for renaming in those projects. Here is a list of pages where you can request this. If some wiki does not have any local bureaucrats who can rename users, you can ask stewards to perform the rename on this page. Regards, Jafeluv 13:00, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I hear there is someone who has an account named Erik Evrest can not log in and an admin says that there is a block. Please find out / researched whether there is something odd.--Erik FestMan 02:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for your work in translations

You do plenty around the place, and this is yet another bit. Thanks. billinghurst sDrewth 14:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Jafeluv 15:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


Moikka! Huomasin seikkaillessani, että aloit suomentaa Global ban -kokonaisuutta. Itse suomensin sanan "ban" yksinkertaisesti sanalla kielto uusiin käyttöehtoihin, jotka on mentykin jo julkaisemaan säätiön sivuilla. Pitäisi varmaan sopia termien yhdenmukaisuudesta eri teksteissä, jotta ei tule sekaannusta. "Ban" oli aiemmin suomennettu porttikielloksi, mutta muutin sen mietittyäni asiaa vain pelkäksi kielloksi, kun se tuntui riittävältä, koska kiellon vaikutukset ja merkitys selitetään tarkemmin itse tekstissä. Keskustellaanpa, mihin päädytään. --Pxos (talk) 17:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Moi! Joo itsekin suunnittelin että pitää kysyä joltain toista mielipidettä tuohon termiin. Ehkä kielto on havainnollisempi termi tuossa yhteydessä. Jafeluv (talk) 03:42, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Täytyy pohtia. Nyt seikkailen wiki-sohjossa, kun täällä on vähän sotkua, kun pitäisi kääntää noita käyttöehtoihin liittyviä viestejä, mutta parhaaseen wiki-tyyliin niitäkin on kaksi versiota (WMF-wikissä ja sitten täällä Metassa) ja kun muutoksia tehdään toisistaan riippumatta molempiin paikkoihin. Eihän se nyt niin vakavaa ole, mutta kun käyttöehdoissa olevia kirjoitusvirheitä ei nyt pysty korjaamaan WMF-wikissä ja noita englanninkielisiä "tässä on esittely, ja tässä on yhteenveto, ja tässä on banneri ja tässä ovat itse ehdot" -viestejä on niin hitosti eivätkä ne pysy vakaina. Ja aina täytyy etsiä eri paikoista, missä niitä voi kääntää (CentAuth-viestejä mm. voi kääntää vain ylläpitäjät, paitsi nyt on avattu mahdollisuus myös käännöstyökalulla). Fi-wikin banneri pitäisi suomentaa, tai on se suomennettu mutta se Introduction täytyy saada julkaistua suomeksi ensin. Äyh. --Pxos (talk) 12:54, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
En ole vielä jaksanut tutustua klopaalipannapolisiin, mutta ymmärtääkseni sanalle "ban" ei tosiaan ole olemassa kunnollista suomenkielistä käännöstä. "Bänniksi" sitä vissiin useimmiten kutsutaan, ja tuo panna on siinä mielessä hyvä käännös, että se sekä tarkoittaa erikseen määriteltyä kieltoa että pakottaa ottamaan selvää asiasta tarkemmin. Jälkimmäinen asia on tietysti huono siinä mielessä, että moni varmaan joutuu sanakirjasta katsomaan, mitä panna tarkoittaa. Eikös kyseessä ole siis kielto, jonka laajuus voi olla moninainen: voidaan kieltää muokkaamasta käyttäjän A keskustelusivua (noin yleensä, ei siis globaalisti) tai sitten kielto voi olla kaikenkattava, mutta se kuitenkin on eri asia kuin esto, joka on vain tekninen lisätoimenpide. Kielessämme on tiettyä köyhyyttä kyllä, täytyy valittaa. Vissiin koko yleiskiellon käyttöönotostakin on meneillään keskustelua, mutta jos täällä kaikki itseä vähänkin kiinnostavat keskustelut yrittäisi lukea, pitäisi lopettaa työnteko ja nukkuminen, jotta pysyisi ajan hermolla siitä sun tästä. Heh. --Pxos (talk) 21:44, 27 April 2012 (UTC)


Moi! Tiedoksesi, että translatewikissä on viime päivinä suomennettu miltei kaikki "global"-esiintymät sanalla "järjestelmänlaajuinen". Nyt suomenkielisessä Wikissä on järjestelmänlaajuiset estot (global blocks), järjestelmänlaajuiset ylläpitäjät (global sysops) ja järjestelmänlaajuinen tunnus (global account). Minun mielestäni globaali oli parempi (vai tutumpi?) termi, mutta toisaalta yhtenäisyyden vuoksi sanalla pitäisi kuitenkin olla aina yksi ainoa käännös, oli se mikä tahansa. Sinäkin olet nyt "järjestelmänlaajuinen palauttaja". No, käännöksissä on se hauska juttu, että niitä voi tehdä yhdet translatewikissä, toiset Metassa ja kolmannet paikallisessa wikissä :) --Pxos (talk) 14:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Ai nytkö me ollaan "järjestelmä" :P Toki vierassanojen korvaaminen suomenkielisillä rakenteilla on ihan ymmärrettävää ja ehkä järjestelmänlaajuinen on parempi siinä mielessä että globaali-sanan päämerkitys on kuitenkin "maailmanlaajuinen", mikä on ehkä jossain määrin hämäävää. Ehkä noita Metan dokumentteja voisi päivitellä pikku hiljaa yhtenäisiksi. Jafeluv (talk) 21:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Translate-wikissä, vaikka erinomainen järjestelmä onkin, on sellainen lähtökohtaisesti rakenteellinen huono puoli, että kun lähdetekstin englanniksi ovat kirjoittaneet ihmiset, joiden äidinkieli on koodikieli (siis erilaisten lisäosien ja muiden ohjelmistojen kehittäjät), niin englanninkielinen versio on aina ikään kuin annettu. Sitten jos ajattelee muokkaavansa ilmaisun takana olevaa ajatusta sellaiseen muotoon, josta joku järjestelmän ulkopuolinenkin jotain ymmärtäisi, niin käännös saatetaan korjata takaisin vastamaan mahdollisimman uskollisesti alkuperäistä versiota. Toisaalta meidän onnenamme on se, että voimme ylipäänsä kääntää erilaisia viestejä. Onnettomia ovat enwikiläiset, sillä heidän on tyytyminen siihen, mitä on tarjolla. (This is the source language, nothing can be done.) --Pxos (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Why not admin @ meta

I know that you have retired from the big league, that said, you are still around, and still command our trust. So are you at least able for being nominated for rebadging at meta? — billinghurst sDrewth 14:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I've been thinking about it, mainly because I occasionally have to ask for spam blacklistings. I prefer not to hold rights I don't actively use, though, and if I only used it for blacklistings it would be removed in six months anyway. I resigned because I had a little too many hats and not enough free time to be active anywhere everywhere. But I might ask for the bit back once I have a little more time to spend on meta stuff :) Jafeluv (talk) 15:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Fair call. Enjoy RL. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks :) Jafeluv (talk) 09:51, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Edits on blacklists/protected pages do count as admin actions, as nobody except admins can edit it and it requires administrator privileges (see here for a concurrent opinion). Just FYI. Are you sure you can't make 10 edits & admin actions in 6 months? If it's for BL stuff, you make an action and an edit at the same time! :) Regards. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Marco, I'll keep that in mind :) Jafeluv (talk) 09:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm sure :) - Btw, thanks for your proofreading on the proposed MSR policy. Regards. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:57, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Travel Guide: Naming poll open

Hi there,

You are receiving this message because you voiced your opinion at the Request for Comment on the Wikimedia Travel Guide.

The proposed naming poll opened a few days ago and you can vote for as many of the proposed names as you wish, if you are eligible. Please see Travel Guide/Naming Process for full details on voting eligibility and how the final name will be selected. Voting will last for 14 days, and will terminate on 16 October at 06:59:59 UTC.

Thanks, Thehelpfulone 21:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. Jafeluv (talk) 09:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


hello) please excuse me for bothering you with some trifling trifles. but. i've seen your File:Parus and Continental.jpg edit, and then (quite naturally) happened across your sandbox. aren't you supposed to have an autoreviewrestore right? or smth like that. or maybe we are supposed to give you an autoreview user flag locally? 'coz it will help. us. greatly. and one more question - you've placed File:Order of the "Iron Cross" (the UPR).jpg as a problematic one. why exactly? i've discussed the file a while ago, so i am really curious to hear more thoughts concerning it :) --antanana 18:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Antanana. I see I've left a redirect on my talk page on for some reason -- I really should remove that since I'm editing on that project anyway. Hope you don't mind if I answer your question there to keep discussions in the proper place :) Jafeluv (talk) 19:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
fine with me. even better, i would say) --antanana 02:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

hello) would you be so kind to drop by (ukwiki)locally?) thanks --antanana 00:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Done :P Jafeluv (talk) 13:45, 23 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi. Thank you for your help on the copyright violence of the Turkish Wikipedia. But the admins do not care about this. Can you please let them know the discussion on the village pump of the Turkish wiki. The turkish village pump is here. [9]. I cant do it myself because they know i support Ansiklopedika and the block me because they see me as hostile. Thanks and best wishes. 10:27, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

AJAX patrol

Hello, I see that you use AjaxPatrolLinks. I have good news for you: AJAX patrolling is now in core! On Wikimedia projects, it should arrive with MediaWiki 1.21wmf5, between 2012-11-26 and 2012-12-5. You should disable this gadget when the new feature change is enabled, because it will become redundant and to avoid double patrolling. Thanks, Nemo 08:06, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Jafeluv (talk) 10:00, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


Your comment

Sorry if I was a bit too assertive, but afaik it's a long-time habit, anyway I've removed my aside in order to avoid misunderstandings, see ya! --Vituzzu (talk) 20:02, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the clarification! Jafeluv (talk) 21:16, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Editor @

Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 00:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Jafeluv (talk) 07:22, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Fundraising translation feedback

Hey Jafeluv,

I wanted to ask for your help. As you may be aware we have been running banners on many language wikis. We have a lot of new content this year and I really want to conduct a thorough review of our translations. This is a combination of feedback from the community, readers, donors as well as those with professional translator experience. This will help us ensure the highest quality of translations used in our messaging.

To help us out with this I wonder if you would be willing to give us feedback for Finnish using This Link

Simply follow the simple instructions on that page and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page.

Many Thanks

Jseddon (WMF) (talk) 12:05, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Re:Coat of arms

zh:User talk:Wcam#Coat of arms

Hi Jafeluv. Can you provide the source information for this image? Since the deleted page says the image is from commons which is not a valid source for fair-use. Thank you. --Wcam (talk) 11:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Answered on your page :) Jafeluv (talk) 14:52, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
That would be perfect. Please go ahead :) --Wcam (talk) 15:09, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Attribution added

An attribution has been added to the talkpage of the translated version of I Surrender Dear per your request. (link) Gaconnhanhnhen (talk) 19:02, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Jafeluv (talk) 12:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Global sysop

Hi Jafeluv. Congrats! QuiteUnusual just gave you the GS rights again. Please also subscribe to mail:global-sysops. Regards, Trijnsteltalk 14:22, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations! PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:48, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Congrats on becoming the newest glottal stop! --Pxos (talk) 15:17, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

You mean glo'al? :P Jafeluv (talk) 17:34, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Onnittelut! --Stryn (talk) 17:27, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks guys! \o/ Jafeluv (talk) 17:34, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Global userpages

Moi! Onko sulla mitään syvempää tietoa tuosta järjestelmänlaajuisten käyttäjäsivujen luontiprosessista (User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Synchbot), joka on saatavissa tilaamalla? Olen pienissä suomenkielisissä projekteissa törmännyt noihin, ja vaikka niistä ei olekaan mitään haittaa, ne ovat jotenkin ärsyttäviä. Käyttäjä, jolla ei ole aikomustakaan osallistua jonkun projektin tekoon, haluaa kuitenkin spämmätä tuhansia erikielisiä projekteja omilla kotisivuillaan, joissa lukee että ota yhteyttä minuun metassa ja älä kirjoita tänne ja en osaa suomea lainkaan. Tuntuu jotenkin lapselliselta meiningiltä. Esimerkiksi suomenkielisessä Wikiaineistossa on aktiivisten käyttäjien listalla [10] näitä kotisivutehtailijoita. Mielummin omat sivut voisi pyytää luotavaksi sellaisiin projekteihin, joissa on itse edes vähän mukana. Mikä pakko niitä on kaikkialle tunkea? --Pxos (talk) 18:11, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Selvennykseksi tähän, että poistin tuon yllä olevan kommentin jo marraskuun puolella mielestäni tarpeettomana, kun Jafeluv ei ollut ehtinyt reagoida siihen, mutta palautin sen uudestaan 11. joulukuuta 2013, koska haluan silti purnata aiheesta. Jatkoa: Vaikka palvelinten tallennuskapasiteetti onkin miltei rajaton, niin täysin turhien tyyppien luomat sadat käyttäjäsivut eri projekteissa vievät silti tilaa, eikö vain? En tiedä, onko tämä mikään todellinen ongelma, mutta sivut, joita luodaan huvikseen ihan turhan takia ovat mielestäni tarpeetonta spämmäystä ja sen ei soisi yleistyvän. Mitäs mieltä olet? --Pxos (talk) 13:23, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Kyllähän nuo kotisivujen tehtailut pienissä projekteissa täyttää tuoreiden muokkausten listaa, tosin useimmat eivät käytä tuota Pathoschildin palvelua vaan lisäilevät käyttäjäsivut enemmän tai vähemmän käsipelillä. Ja jos ei koskaan tee muuta muokkausta kuin käyttäjäsivun lisäämisen projektissa niin tarpeetontahan se on. Toisaalta jos tekee muokkauksia projektissa, varsinkin jos sattuu olemaan toisen projektin kautta paikalle osunut satunnaismuokkaaja, on hyödyllistä lisätä käyttäjäsivulle tieto siitä mitä kautta saa helpommin otettua yhteyttä. Ainakin globaalien ylläpitäjien tapauksessa itse asiassa käytäntö vaatii käyttäjäsivun luomista jokaisessa wikissä jossa käyttää työkaluja. Vähimmällä vaivalla pääsee kun luo käyttäjäsivuja sitä mukaa kuin niille tulee tarvetta (esim. samalla kun tekee ensimmäisen muokkauksen uudessa projektissa), mutta monet tekevät niin että luovat saman tien käyttäjäsivun joka projektiin riippumatta siitä tarvitaanko sitä vai ei. Välillä tämä saa tietysti huvittavia piirteitä – esimerkiksi kašmirinkielisessä Wikipediassa on 116 sivua artikkeli- ja 737 käyttäjäavaruudessa. Mutta kyllä itse lähden siitä että jos on edes joskus tehnyt muokkauksen/lokimerkinnän projektissa niin on ihan asiallista luoda myös käyttäjäsivu jolla kertoo mitä kautta voi tarvittaessa ottaa yhteyttä. Jafeluv (talk) 16:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Askel parempaan suuntaan olisi muuten globaalien (oletus)käyttäjäsivujen mahdollistaminen, esimerkiksi että Metassa voi luoda globaalin käyttäjäsivun joka tulee oletusarvoisesti näkyviin jokaisessa wikissä ellei sitä ylikirjoita paikallisesti (vähän samaan tapaan kuin Commonsin tiedostojen kuvaussivut tulevat näkyviin paitsi jos samanniminen tiedosto löytyy myös paikallisesti). Jonkun vain pitäisi ensin koodata MediaWiki-palikka joka mahdollistaisi moisen. Jafeluv (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Globaali käyttäjäsivu olisikin hyvä idea. Näin pikkuwikejä ei tarvitse kuormittaa alati fiksattavilla käyttäjäsivuilla. Tuohan kelpaisi jo ehdotukseksi jonnekin, minne tuollaiset ehdotukset kelpaavat. Toinen ärsytyksen aihe ovat tunnukset, jotka käyttävät täysin erilaista nimeä käyttönimenään kuin mitä käyttäjätunnuksessa lukee. Tämä on ymmärtääkseni sallittua sekä Metassa että englanninkielisessä Wikipediassa. Yksi esimerkki on Revi, jota moitin Wikiaineistossa kun en tajunnut että hän onkin pikkuwikien valvontatiimissä mukana salanimellään. Nuo kaksi nimeä ovat tyystin erilaiset, muuta hänellä oli asiaan kootut selitykset, jotka ovat varmasti hyviä siellä, missä tuollaiset selitykset ovat hyviä. Hoh hoo, kun kerran sallittua tuo on, niin minkäs teet. --Pxos (talk) 12:36, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Globaalista käyttäjäsivusta: Global userpage. Voi olla ettei hetkeen oteta käyttöön, jos joskus edes otetaan. Käyttäjäsivujen massaluonti puolestaan hoituu kätevästi nykyään käyttämällä sivun User:PiRSquared17/Global UP ohjeita, koska synchbotissa on aikamoinen jono. Ja mitä Revi-asiaan tulee, niin kyselin samaa kuukausi sitten täällä. --Stryn (talk) 21:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)



Eihän tämä sinulle varsinaisesti kuulu, mutta kun kerrat olet halunnut globaalin hujopin tehtäviin ja sinulla lienee kokemusta kansainvälisestä tai järjestelmänlaajuisesta maailmankaikkeudesta, niin kenties sinulla on käytännön työn tarjoamia mietteitä siihen, miten suomenkielisessä Wikiaineistossa ja sitä kautta myös muissa pienissä projekteissa pitäisi tuo kielitaidon mainostaminen ratkaista. Linkki on tässä. --Pxos (talk) 00:44, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Eipä tuolla varmaan hirveästi eroa ole kumpaa käyttää, #babel nyt on valmiina olemassa joten sitä voi joka tapauksessa käyttää kuka haluaa ja paikalliset mallineet toimivat samalla tavalla jos sellaisia on projektissa olemassa. Tuo muuten ei pidä ihan paikkaansa ettei #babel-lisäosa osaisi luokitella käyttäjäsivuja kielikohtaisiin luokkiin – ainakin täällä Metan puolella luokat vaikuttavat ilmaantuvan automaattisesti. Jafeluv (talk) 09:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Tuosta pitää tehdä bugipyyntö vissiin Bugzillaan. Esim sv-wikt: Bugzilla:42288. --Stryn (talk) 21:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Mulle alkaa vähitellen tulla sellainen fiilinki, että meille tarjotaan ensin aina vain joku vähiten varusteltu malli kaikesta uudesta, ja jos sitten haluaa että se toimii hyvin, pitää aina tehdä erillinen bugzilla-pyyntö. (Esim. module talk -avaruuden suomentaminen ja sellaiset.) Babel-ekstensio ei siis luokittele mitään valmiiksi ilman tuollaista useita kuukausia kestävää erillistä pyyntöä ja sitä edeltävää projektin sisäistä keskustelua, mitä se oikein haluaa. Vaikeaa, byrokraattista ja antaa olla. Teen diktaattorin päätöksen finska wikisourcessa ja päätän, että käyttäjät saavat tyytyä babel-extensioniin ilman luokituksia. Jos joku käyttäjä ei tee mitään muuta kuin luo käyttäjäsivunsa, jossa haluaa kieleksi ylämongolian itäiset murteet, hän saa olla ilman omaa luokkaa. --Pxos (talk) 22:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Serbian travel spammer

Hi, i have added domain to COIBot monitor list per your request. This user is adding them. It's removed by local users, this is just FYI. Thanks--Shanmugamp7 (talk) 18:49, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Jafeluv (talk) 03:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC) blocking requests

Fritz and Kabani were blocked, as you have requested. --OC Ripper (talk) 08:52, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

That was fast. Thanks! Jafeluv (talk) 08:53, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Globalistin ja stevarin ero?

Terse! Mikä onkaan käytännön toimissa globaalin sysopin ja stewardin ero? Onko niin, että GS voi toimia melko itsenäisesti ylläpitäjän valtuuksin sellaisissa projekteissa, joissa GS:n toimivalta on sallittu (ns. opt-in-projektit) eli estää, taaksepoistaa ja suojata silloin kun on ilmiselvää, että paikalliset ovat paikallisessa eivätkä työpaikalla, kun taas stevet eivät oikeastaan voi tehdä mitään muuta kuin toteuttaa erilaisia pyyntöjä? Toisin sanoen, onko aktiivisen vandalismintorjunnan kannalta parempi olla globbis kuin stevis? Vai häärivätkö stewardit yhtä lailla vandalismintorjunnassa eri puolilla maailmaa? --Pxos (talk) 12:34, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Moi! Kyllä ylivalvojat voivat auttaa pienten wikien ylläpidossa ihan samalla lailla kuin GS:tkin. Itse asiassa koko käyttäjäryhmä perustettiin nimenomaan vähentämään ylivalvojien työtaakkaa – aiemminhan stuertit hoitivat kaikki ylläpitotehtävät wikeissä joilla ei ole omia aktiivisia ylläpitäjiä. Eli ylivalvojilla on kyllä oikeus tehdä kaikkea mitä globaaleilla ylläpitäjilläkin. Jafeluv (talk) 18:44, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Help in

Hi I am requesting you that please help us for error. In daily basis we are suffering from this bug related to script. I inform so many person of bugzilla but no one takes it seriously. Please help us, If you have guidance regarding this. If you know someone who can solve this problem than give his contact to me. Tank you.. NehalDaveND (talk) 08:57, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Superprotect status

Dear Jafeluv, since you are an administrator on a wiki from which no user participated in this discussion, I'd like to make sure you are aware of some recent events which may alter what the Wikimedia Foundation lets you do on your wiki: Superprotect.

Peteforsyth 09:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. Jafeluv (talk) 09:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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