Talk:Steward requests/Global

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We need a bot here to clerk for usEdit

Changing the status of a request takes changing {{status}} and writting the result. Most of the requests here are straighforward similar to what happens at WP:AIV. We should see if we can implement some automated marking as "done" as happens over there. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:08, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

It is a stewards' page so I think that most of us are wary about authoritatively making statements for stewards. I would suggest that some guidance on what stewards are comfortable with trusted participants actioning items. You may also wish to identify what that trusted participant may be, would it be identified individuals or people with specified rights. If we have that, then we can manage who can set such changes that you determine. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:29, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

A simple bot that marks whether an account is locked or not would be helpful. --Rs chen 7754 18:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes. We are not comfortable with people making the decision for us, but it is common for accounts to be locked by a steward who was not aware of the report on this page. Having a bot to mark requests for accounts that are now locked as done would be useful, or removing (marking?) locked accounts from a list of reports. – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:02, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

I meant as Ajraddatz said :) —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@جار الله: --Alaa :)..! 21:01, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

@علاء: As an example.--جار الله (talk) 20:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks جار الله. Ping @Ajraddatz, MarcoAurelio, Billinghurst, and Rschen7754: --Alaa :)..! 20:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Not that it's my decision anymore, but I think that would be helpful. --Rs chen 7754 01:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

I'd prefer if the bot used its own signature and instead commented {{done}} by $stewardName. --~~~~. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@جار الله: Can you please fix it per MarcoAurelio comment? and if you can make more examples? --Alaa :)..! 14:43, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@علاء: Done, and yes the task needs more examples. When there are more unclosed requests I will make more examples.--جار الله (talk) 17:11, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Support Looks like a good idea to me. Masum Reza^☎ 16:15, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Enthusiastic though unhelpful IP range global block suggestionsEdit

It is a while since I have had a look at SRG and can I say that there are some whilst trying to be helpful are simply too enthusiastic, and ultimately clagging the board with requests that simply cannot be managed successfully. An IP block on a /16 for all wikis is a significant issue, and generally only would only be undertaken when imperative and following a significant amount of checking. For stewards there are many holes in what they can see easily, and a range on one wiki can be quiet, yet on another wiki can be busy, especially with regional IPs, and differing languages. In the end, some vandalism and some spam will get through, and we can manage it, and blocking blocking blocking large ranges for small visual benefit is usually problematic when we have legitimate people blocked from editing.

I propose that the range blocks on the page are sensibly culled unless there is a clear requirement for a block. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:06, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

As some assistance to stewards I hve looked at some of the broad range block requests. These are edits from a Taiwanese mobile phone provider for edits at enWP, jaWP, and zhWP. These wikis are best able to determine how they manage their IP editors from Taiwan, and generally don't require steward's interventions. [Think of all the admins that they have compared to how many stewards we have.] These wikis are also able to escalate to stewards as they see fit for their requirements. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:04, 5 November 2019 (UTC)