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Update Main Page to automatically display localised version

Hi! Since october 2018 update, Main Page have been displayed in English by default, readers have to choose their language in bottom frame each time they visit Main Page. We can fix that issue using the same trick which is used by {{LangSwitch}} and some other templates, based on {{int:lang}} automatically localised interface message. Can a sysop do:

1. Move Main Page to Template:Main Page/v2, including translation pages.
2. Wait for moving is finished (it should be entered in Page translation log).
3. Recreate Main Page with current content of Main page sandbox.

You also can remove Template:Main Page/v3 which I have created and which is unuseful. —Pols12 (talk) 14:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

• @Pols12: Hi Pols12, thought I would drop you a line. I can't speak for other admins, but the reason I won't touch this is that it involves moving the main page. If there was more discussion and consensus to do this, I think you'd have better chances. ~riley (talk) 01:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

I understand. But moving the page should create a redirection, like for any page. And the correction should take less than 1 minute… We could also copy the content instead of moving the page, but we would lose page history (so author credits) that way. I’m annoucing on Babel to receive more support… —Pols12 (talk) 02:11, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Pols12: what was the behavior you were seeing prior to October 2018? — xaosflux ^Talk 02:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Xaosflux:, I was probably wrong: looking at the code, I see no reason to view an other language than English. I believed the page were displayed in user interface language, as I would like it does today. —Pols12 (talk) 04:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

From September 2018 to December 2018, MediaWiki:Mainpage was set to "Special:MyLanguage/Main Page", which would have caused the behavior you report. But it also broke various other things that need MediaWiki:Mainpage to not be a special page, so it was reverted. BJorsch (WMF) (talk) 14:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks BJorsch, so this behavior was not my invention! Since using Special:MyLanguage is not possible, using a conditional statement based on int:lang is probably a good workaround, isn’t it? Note currently, the behavior is inconsistent: some parts are based on page language whereas some other ones are based on int:lang. —Pols12 (talk) 20:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

This discussion might help: (link).

I’ve managed to make it function properly, in cases of Главна страна (source code) (and also to a minutely lesser degree at Glavna strana [source code]). This doesn't work if pages are used as mere redirects.

Notice that the page (a) has no tag ((translate-tag-translate-link-desc) at the top of the translated page, and (b) also has some form of this template transcluded somehow at the bottom of the page which enables better linking with old style main pages.

Moving (with redirects left behind) wouldn't work, but transcluding in completely new pages could.

All that is necessary is, using d:Q5296 names for page titles of translated pages, and also creating two mediawiki definitions per translated page, similarly to this: MediaWiki:Mainpage/pl, MediaWiki:Mw-mainpage-url/pl, but with the content Main_page/pl

Additional benefit would be the possibility of using the transcluded pages as wikilinks, and also the possibility of finding the pages through the internal search (with drop-down).

It worked perfectly before, but now… these changes should solve the immediate situation. Hope this helps. Best wishes. -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 09:09, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Would it show the new translations, if the old translation templates were to be deleted, as was the case with Template:Main Page/Intro/en? Currently it forces the old translation templates instead of new style translations, but only if pages with transcluded content are used. -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 10:17, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer Nesmir Kudilovic, but I don’t want to create another page (I find that is useless), I just want users see Main Page in their UI language when they click top-left corner Meta-Wiki logo. Besides, if you want to transclude the main page, you should not transclude Template:Main Page which is deprecated, but Main Page instead (same goes for their respective localised versions). —Pols12 (talk) 20:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Report concerning User:Overxconfident

Overxconfident (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC) — Reasons: Cross-wiki harassment by a banned user on fr-WP (see RCU; harassment on fr redirecting to meta. Can you protect user talk:Gratus too, pls? Kind regards. — Jules ^Talk 11:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Warned user, seems otherwise controlled. It is not at the stage of protection, and it would require full protection, so would prefer to not go there at this point as there is no other history on the user talk page.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

A big sock-farm indeed. Ruslik (talk) 14:21, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

 This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)