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Copyvio and other issues at siwikiEdit

Status:    In progress

Hello. Can someone have a look at si:Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Admin access please? As I have been doing on other projects, I'd like to help out with media files on siwiki. I have clearly identified longstanding mass copyvio/licensing issues, and can also understand the language up to a certain extent. But I find the response there (from the only admin) quite peculiar and troubling.

The Sinhala Wikipedia has no bureaucrats, and only 1 active admin. The other two admins should probably be removed due to inactivity, but that's not why I am here. The most active user (if not the only active user), is also the admin themselves.

I'm willing to let this go and focus on other non-siwiki work, but that latest response is not a good sign, and also a sign that other potential admins may have been shooed away in the past. Appreciate if someone knowledgeable in cross-wiki policies can comment on this situation please? Rehman 10:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

The bulk of the vios are from one user, though there are a LOT of them. I would think that our global copyright policy supersedes any sort of local policy. Praxidicae (talk) 13:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
It actually appears to have been a group of students, see also this users uploads which include stock images that are subject to copyright and even has the watermarks... Praxidicae (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, Praxidicae. I agree. Is that admin's reasoning valid though - can they stop someone (i.e. me) from going ahead, singlehandedly? And should such comments be tolerated at all from the sole admin of a project? To me IMHO, the last comment sounded like someone who wants to run a private project. Rehman 14:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
I mean, no. A single admin can't stop any person from requesting rights but I think they make a good point and you probably shouldn't. It's a GS wiki and deletions can be handled that way, as well as through their admins. Praxidicae (talk) 14:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I will not push, in that case. For arguement sake though, considering that there are barely any active users there, a ton of bad files, and almost zero probability that the only admin can handle all that mess. What do we do in such a situation, when the only admin (and probably the only editor) comments against someone offering to help? For the sake of our brand reputation, we cannot let it run as a private wiki, can we? Rehman 14:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think encouraging non-SI speaking editors to seek adminship is the solution here. We also have capable global sysops who can assist should it be needed. SI has managed pretty well so far. Praxidicae (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Just to clarify though, I do speak Sinhala, and currently live in Sri Lanka. I also am the founder of Wikimedia Community User Group Sri Lanka. That being said, I also need to state that SI has not been managing that well - the bulk of the bad files dates back to 2008 (that's over a decade ago). Rehman 14:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps I should clarify. The issue appears to also be a large amount of improperly licensed non free files. If you're a speaker of the language, you should create discussions about those files. There's no need for adminship for that and NFF isn't something that should be nuked without conversation imo. If you want to become an admin there, follow their RFA procedure because stewards cannot grant admin rights in local communities without a consensus there. Praxidicae (talk) 14:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Rehman maybe another solution here is to start creating the right licensing templates? It looks like a lot of their NFF uploads (you can see in the file list and user logs) were uploaded as NFF via enwiki templates that don't exist on siwiki. You seem to be pretty good in that area, can they be imported? Praxidicae (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
(ec) Not being rude, but the RFA there is a copy of the enwiki RFA (si:WP:RFA), created by the same admin in 2010, and never used since. That is the only reason I posted at their VP - for better visibility (but that too has barely any visitors). I'm not trying to argue, Praxidicae. I just think this is not good for the health of our brand. What I exposed was just the tip of the iceberg from a single category. With the political situation of Sri Lanka, we're lucky those files are just junk and not something offensive/sensitive. Else a ban from the government would not have been too far away. I see that two volunteers from here has now commented there. Hopefully the message is passed, and things will be sorted. I'm just trying to help. Rehman 14:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Sure. I'm commenting from work. I will have a deeper look soon as soon as I'm done for the day. Cheers, Rehman 15:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I think I can fix at least the most used license types. Rehman 07:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@Rehman:, There is an active admin on the wiki who is willing to act on the pages/files if you tag them, you can make the request for specific administrative actions to the admin there. This page is for requesting specific administrative actions on wikis with no active administrators, is there anything else you need help with here?-BRP ever 08:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
We're talking of hundreds/thousands of files here. I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in inflating this task literally two-fold when I already clearly showed him/her a stash of bad files to start with. This user didn't allow me to help by blocking the sysop process single-handedly (for a baseless reason, FYI), and is also not interested in cleaning the mountain of copyvios themselves. The project is a mess and literally run like a private wiki due to the odd situation we have here, and sadly no one seems to be able to do anything because there is no policy or guideline covering this situation. The sole admin there is clearly not working in good faith, and I'm sure that is already clear by now. Rehman 13:25, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
For transparency: Steward_requests/Permissions/2020-04#Rehman@siwiki. Rehman 06:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

3rd month updateEdit

I think my point here is made. We've now reached the 3rd month since my initial offer to help. In the single category I've linked as an example, there are still hundreds (if not a thousand+) decade-old files which are clearly copyvio or with no source details whatsoever - no change since I reported. And this is just that one category. The only admin at siwiki succeeded in unilaterally blocking my offer to help (so that they may remain as the only poweruser), but did not bother fixing the issue which I raised. If that user could block someone like myself - an experienced admin (on Commons and enwiki) who has been here for over a decade, and who also speaks Sinhala/lives in Sri Lanka, I don't think anyone else would be able to to volunteer as an admin on that wiki, and that wiki will continue to be run as a privately-controlled wiki. I hope the people responsible reads this, and either fixes this damaging policy loophole, or escalates this to someone who can. Rehman 11:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I believe this thread should be treated as a personal attack on me. Please go through si:Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Admin access again.--Lee (talk) 07:40, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I am not sure what we are even discussing here. By what I see you are claiming that the wiki is being privately controlled just because the only active admin there opposed your RFA. They said that they will look into the issue if you go through the local procedure so please go through that. The top of the page says, Requests can be made here for specific administrative actions (such as page deletion) to be performed by a steward or global sysop. and I see nothing like that in this request. The copyvio files have been an issue in a lot of small wikis and I am glad that you are volunteering but by what is read, this request focuses more on the RFA than files. I am involved so I won't be closing this and this is just my opinion.-BRP ever 06:32, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Right to vanish: CarbonicAcid et alEdit

Status:    In progress

Several accounts posted a Synchbot request for their right to vanish:

I deleted the pages Synchbot normally handles, but the bot runs within strict limits to avoid causing any issues (e.g. it doesn't delete the global user page, user pages where the user has a block history, or user talk pages). I'm forwarding their requests here to handle the remaining pages as needed. —Pathoschild 17:48, 06 September 2020 (UTC)

Possibly out-of-scope article at ko.WikinewsEdit

Status:    In progress

The article created by Joomkiwi (n:ko:사용자:Joomkiwi/팩트체크 저널리즘, 가짜뉴스를 잡는다) was moved from main namespace to a user namespace by User:Motoko C. K. for either quality issues or (via Google Translate) being out of the project’s scope. Should it be deleted, or then transferred to as a user draft, or what else? George Ho (talk) 00:22, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

User:Motoko C. K. / User:Mineralsab, do you have any input? --Base (talk) 17:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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