need some help - harassment and other issuesEdit

hi. thanks so much your reply, and your comments directing me here! I am frantically trying to find my way around here, before the whole project closes. it's a bit of a thicket, from my point of view, although I'm sure lots of people here navigate with ease.

could you please tell me where I could make some comments on preserving stability and also on issues of handling harassment? I have some ideas on this that I'd like share. your note on this seems fortuitous. could you please help me figure out where to go for discussions on this? thanks!!

please ping me when you reply here, and please also ping me on the regular pages in our workspace back aboard the starship Enterprise errr, i mean back aboard the regular old Wikipedia. (lol) I am trying to quickly figure things out, and time seems to be of the essence here. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 21:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sm8900: Post here anytime, or English Wikipedia, I can answer you anywhere.
What do you mean by "before the whole project closes"? We talked about several projects.
What kind of stability?
For harassment, there are maybe 10 unrelated behaviors which have different responses but which all are harassment. For an orientation to the topic either experience misconduct response by viewing the management of live cases at en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or read up on financial investment at Community health initiative. There is no central place or easy way to observe the landscape of misconduct management in Wikimedia projects. If you have questions ask. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:56, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Ah, you are talking about strategy. The new recommendations get published on 20 January in 4 days at Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations. There is nothing out yet. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
gotcha. okay, that's good to know. so if that's the case, then is there still any available way for me to offer any thoughts to this process? sorry, I realize this is late, but I had no idea about any of this until now, thanks to you.
By the way, I meant civility, not stability. and I simply wanted to know where civility and harassment might be getting discussed, here at this strategy project.
by the way, I also just emailed you. sorry, didn't mean to flood you with messages. this quite a lot to find a path through. I very much appreciate all your insights and info. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 22:01, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
@Sm8900: I just replied to your email. Yes, there is a lot of text here. If you want to find something then you can ask me or post to Wikimedia Forum for global issues or Wikipedia:Village pump for English Wikipedia-specific issues. I encourage you to ask instead of search, because lots of people can give you quick answers. Blue Rasberry (talk) 22:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
hi! ok, I've done so, i.e. I have asked at a page here. you can view my contribs history for the location. it's great to be in touch. I can see some great items and projects arising from all this. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 22:25, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

starting comments on recommendations, to request greater specificity, details, and data in order to build real consensus for actual changes.Edit

Hi. I have commented on the talk page below. feel free to review and to comment, if you wish. my main goal was to make some starting comments on these recommendations, to request greater specificity, details, and data in order to build real consensus for actual changes.

thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 18:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

LGBT topics and events in Latin AmericaEdit

As Latin America is so big, major events would vary by country. I didn't know about that event in Brazil, but for example, in Ecuador (where I'm from), the decriminalization of homosexuality in 1997 was a pretty major event (Case No. 111-97-TC (Q5048319)), as it came after the first ever public protests by LGBT people in the country, which were triggered by a police raid of an LGBT bar.

I think one of the biggest events that is having repercussion throughout the continent is the Advisory Opinion on Gender Identity, Equality, and Non-Discrimination of Same-Sex Couples (Q56378556), which was released in 2017 by the Interamerican Court of Human Rights and basically mandates all signatory countries in the region to legalize same-sex marriage. It has already been implemented by Costa Rica and Ecuador and will be probably remembered as the catalyst for same-sex marriage legalization in the rest of the countries. Another pretty important event is the São Paulo Gay Pride Parade (Q429633), which is the biggest pride event in Latin America and has held the Guinness Record for biggest pride parade in the world in multiple years, it is attended by about 4 million people every year.

Another article that hasn't been created in many wikipedias is Homosexuality in pre-Columbian civilizations (Q5474808), which I already added to the list. It's pretty cool to learn how homosexuality was so integrated in many South American civilizations, for instance in the chimú culture. There are also more sinister topics related to homophobia that don't have articles yet, for instance, I've read a lot about how it was common in the 80's for young guys of rich families to go "gay hunting", i.e. go in groups in fancy cars to find gay or trans prostitutes in order to beat them up with bats. Apparently it was a common practice among the elite. I don't know if this only happened in Latin America though.

Back to happier topics, there are also many LGBT works of art (mainly books and movies) that have gained great notoriety throughout the world, like Hell Has No Limits (Q5369068), Kiss of the Spider Woman (Q646668), A Fantastic Woman (Q28127580), among many others. I'm a literature nerd so LGBT books are actually one of my focuses in wikipedia XD --Freddy eduardo (talk) 21:10, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for continuing to push for wikiprojectsEdit

Hi Bluerasberry,

Thanks for your tireless efforts to get things moving. Ottawahitech (talk) 15:57, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

AI legislationEdit

Dear Bluerasberry,

I contact you since you are marked among the "People who are interested" in Advanced technology page. As you might already know, the EU is working about a regulation of the AI environment, in order to promote its potential and at the same time to protect the citizens from unwanted uses. It is going to be an important moment for achieving the most empowering, safe and clear definition of the rights and duties related to the AI, affecting also Wikimedia's opportunities, not only inside EU. I kindly invite you to participate to the discussion, firstly by commenting the page that is dedicated to it, in order to draft Wikimedia's answers to this legislative initiative of the EU.

The linked page contains the questions from the public consultation by the European Commission on its Artificial Intelligence White Paper.

The EU's survey will remain open until 14 June 2020, but we will take input into account until 31 May 2020.

Thanks, --sNappy(talk) 21:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Etherpad notes of May meetingEdit

Hey there. I have wondered why the Etherpad notes of the May meeting are not yet posted on Meta. George Ho (talk) 02:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

@George Ho: I neglected to do so. I will post them now. Also today's meeting is in an hour if you are free and interested to join. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:35, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Notes from May at Wikimedia Café/minutes 2020 05 Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to affiliate members to complete a survey about WMF wide Universal Code of ConductEdit

Hello; My name is Mervat, and I am helping the Trust and Safety team to reach out to affiliates in order to discuss the Universal Code of Conduct. I am contacting you as you are a member of the Wikimedians for Sustainable Development User Group. If you have received this from other user groups/chapters, you can ignore.

There has been talks about the need for a global set of conduct rules in different communities over time, and finally, Wikimedia Foundation Board announced a Community Culture Statement, enacting new standards to address harassment and promote inclusivity across projects.Since the universal code of conduct that will be a binding minimum set of standards across all Wikimedia projects, will apply to all of us, staff and volunteers alike, all around the globe, and will impact our work as groups, individuals and projects, it’s of great importance that we all participate in expressing our opinions and thoughts about UCoC, its nature, what we think it should cover or include and what it shouldn’t include; how it may develop, drawback or help our groups.   This is the time to talk about it. As you are a valuable contributor to the Wikimedia movement, your voice counts. Before starting to draft the code of conduct, we would like to hear from you; We invite you to devote some minutes to take this survey; your answers will help us create a safer environment for all on Wikimedia:


It’s possible that you are a member of more than one affiliate; hence you may receive this survey more than once, and you may have participated previously in the discussions or filled out a previous survey during the first round of consultations about UCoC which targeted wikipedia/wikimedia communities. We apologize for this; it is really difficult to identify if a wikimedian belongs to multiple groups that work to spread free knowledge. Looking forward to your thoughts and opinions and hoping that you can respond within the next 2 weeks.  If you have any questions about the surveys or difficulties accessing the link, please contact me by email ( will be considered during the drafting process for the UCoCThank you for your participation

Mervat Salman - Trust & Safety (Policy) Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation. --Mervat (WMF) (talk) 12:02, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikisource Pagelist Widget - First Iteration FeedbackEdit

Hello everyone,

I am pleased to announce that Wikisource Pagelist Widget is now available on Beta Wikisource. We need your help in testing the widget and providing feedback.

You can test the widget by editing the following Index page on Beta Wikisource:

There is a new ‘Preview pagelist’ button under the pagelist field. Click it to get a preview, and then click on any page number in the preview to open the widget.

You can also create a fresh Index Page for any other PDF or DjVu from Wikimedia Commons and test it.

We need your feedback on the following questions:

  • What is your general opinion about the Pagelist Widget?
  • Is it obvious how to use the widget? If not, what is difficult to understand?
  • What other changes would you like to suggest in order to improve the widget further?

Please provide your feedback on the Project Talk Page on Meta-Wiki.

P.S. - The widget doesn’t work on Local Uploads in Beta Wikisource as of now (due to phab:T257807).


SGill (WMF) (talk)

Sent using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Interest in "conversation" metricsEdit

Hi Lane, I just saw video about your job at UVA and was wondering if you have published anything on how you keep track of how people are reading the content which came from the university and also how you get the metrics you mentioned at 2:38, i.e. "how many people edited the content after someone from this university put it" and how do you extract information about people "objecting" to this content or if stayed long / started a conversation. Sounds like a very interesting approach! Thank you! --Silva Selva (talk) 18:08, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@Silva Selva: There is a lot of variation in how people do this. Most conversations start with these two tools:
  • The Programs & Events Dashboard tracks what a group of editors does and how many people read that content. Instructors often use this for student classes.
  • The Pageviews Analysis tool tracks how many people have read any list of Wikipedia articles.
There is no tool which automatically detects when and if someone has removed content from a Wikipedia article. However, I manually checked this for a few classes and described in the below articles that the content stayed for years.
Yes, conversations happen. There is no automatic way to get reports for them. There are lots of classes with Wikipedia which have encouraged conversations, and we have enough examples to research how this went. No one has done any such research though.
I could say more if you had questions. Thanks for writing. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

TimeZoneConverter bug?Edit

Did the TimeZoneConverter not work for you? If so, it would be good to leave a report so we don't both use the tool AND work around it. Ainali talkcontributions 20:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ainali: I posted at Talk:Timezoneconverter. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:47, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

West Bengal Wikimedians open for community requestEdit

Hi Bluerasberry!

You are receiving this message because you have signed as a General member of the West Bengal Wikimedians User Group.

Like previous years, we are asking our members again to request for support if they wish to plan and execute Wikimedia projects or activities during next year, which require funding. We are open for such requests until November 30, 2020. Based on the fund requests from the community members, the user group will place Rapid grant proposal to Wikimedia Foundation. If the rapid grant request is approved, funds will be allocated to the community members accordingly.

We can only approve request for volunteers who are from West Bengal and is limited to activities where in some way, West Bengal is included. The decision to approve or disapprove your request will be handled by Representative members of the user group.

(On behalf of West Bengal Wikimedians User Group)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021: InvitationEdit

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

18:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Sunday November 29 Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network meetingEdit

Take flight with us.

The Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network (SWAN) is a developing forum for all Wikimedia movement affiliates to share ideas on the Wikimedia 2030 strategy process. It expands on the model of the All-Affiliates Brand Meeting to help lay some of the groundwork for a future Global Council.

Following up on the August, September, and October SWAN meetings, and June's All-Affiliates Brand Meeting, as well as strategic and outreach topics of mutual concern to all affiliates including the recent proposed changes to the Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws, this month we are meeting on Sunday November 29, and you are all invited to RSVP here.

(Note that the UTC times of 03:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC are the same as before, although a number of places have had daylight savings time changes since our last meeting).--Pharos (talk) 01:26, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

WikiConference North America 2020 registrationEdit

Thank you for signing up to attend WikiConference North America 2020! If you haven't already, it would be much appreciated if you could also take a minute to register through our form at While not required, this will help us keep you informed via email, and will also help give us an idea of attendance numbers over the next three days. Thank you, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021Edit

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

16:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Please elaborate on the meta pageEdit

Hi Lane, could you provide some more context behind the creation of this talk page content for Talk:Movement_Charter? [1] It's User:The Land words, but you're the editor, and it's signed by you, and it seems to come from some other place? Ideally you could explain on the page where it came from. Thanks. -- Fuzheado (talk) 14:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I think I see what happened. {{user:The Land}} transcluded my userpage. I assume what was meant was [[user:The Land]] to link. I have fixed that.... :) Chris Keating (The Land) (talk) 15:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Aha! That makes sense now. Wow, that was confusing for a while, thanks. :) -- Fuzheado (talk) 14:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Sunday January 10 Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network meetingEdit

Into the blue.

The Strategic Wikimedia Affiliates Network (SWAN) is a developing forum for all Wikimedia movement affiliates to share ideas on the Wikimedia 2030 strategy process. It expands on the model of the All-Affiliates Brand Meeting to help lay some of the groundwork for a future Global Council.

Following up on the August, September, October, and November SWAN meetings, and June's All-Affiliates Brand Meeting, as well as strategic and outreach topics of mutual concern to all affiliates including SWAN input on Interim Global Council and Movement Charter, this month we are meeting on Sunday January 10, and you are all invited to RSVP here.

To start the exchange of ideas on the IGC early, and to help prepare before the SWAN calls, we have set up and invite everyone to participate at this etherpad. If you like a more interactive way of discussing, we have also made a jamboard. Check here for more details.

--Pharos (talk) 14:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)