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Not necessarily

Not necessarily but I mostly want to have a discussion on what the actual state is and how it should be treated. More of a clarification of the global lock because of the changing circumstances on how Stewards approach the matter. I put a message on the global ban talk page and received no responses. I assumed that area would be more direct and to the point. Does that make sense? :) Ottava Rima (talk) 03:09, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I didn't notice your comment, but I see it now. At the moment a global lock will be given to abusive usernames, users who are vandalising and/or spamming crosswiki or are abusing multiple accounts crosswiki. And that means in most cases long-term vandals. I don't think this way of handling global locks has been changed by the years. Regards, Trijnstel 21:45, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, in the specific case, Proab was blocked for incivility related problems. I don't know if they want to just treat it as a global ban or how. I just find it a question that might want to be addressed at some point. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:48, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Imo it's not wrong to ask for a second opinion after an almost two year long global lock, but I think he would've been locked now too. Trijnstel 16:27, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

  Oye! I see you are using the notification message to notify temporary administrators on several wikis. Therefore, you do own a cheeseburger from me! I choice it for you, as I would have chosen for mine! — Tanvir | Talk ] 10:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the delicious cheeseburger (and the compliment of course) and you're welcome. Regards, Trijnstel 17:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Unlinked images

I only unlinked images that were licensed as Public domain. There is no need to link to public domain images for any attribution reasons. -- WOSlinker 11:26, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Well... sure there is. All images and/or text are uploaded under a certain license. Even the public domain ones. Kind regards, Trijnstel 19:21, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

For your work on 19/01/2012

Thanks for your work in cleaning up after the crosswiki vandal. Have this public domain image of a cake.

Ajraddatz (Talk) 21:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely cake! Kind regards, Trijnstel 19:21, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


Can you please post the result of my checkuser request? I'm asking because the request for adminship involved is approaching its closing time. Thanks, --viniciusmc 13:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

  Done, Vituzzu posted the results of your CheckUser request here. Kind regards, Trijnstel 17:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Further account to lock?

If you felt this one should be locked then so should this one :) Same IP etc etc - regards --Herby talk thyme 12:14, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

  Done and thanks! I didn't notice the second account. Thank God we have the CheckUser tools. ;-) Trijnstel 12:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


Too fine signature for the dumb template :D --WizardOfOz talk 18:57, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I think so. :-P I couldn't find the reason so that's why I replaced it by another sentence. Trijnstel 19:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Didn´t even saw that there is no signature. But thanks... so next time you can close all like above :P --WizardOfOz talk 19:04, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
He he, yes! Trijnstel 19:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
From me too, yes! ...: so keep up the good work done ;) D.A. Borgdorff - e.i. = Cordiales Atte via IP 18:26, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment!   Trijnstel 18:34, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Autopatroller right

Thank you :) Samat (WMM) (talk) 16:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Trijnstel (talk) 14:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Reversion on Gwen Gale RFC

I consider this an inappropriate use of rollback, and thus I have reverted you. If you wish to revert my change please justify your reversion. Eraserhead1 (talk) 23:20, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I thought it's obvious. Nemo, a local administrator (just like me), closed the RfD. Then you're not supposed to "just" re-open it. Trijnstel (talk) 14:31, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Spam accounts on mw

Hi, Trijnstel. I'm a bit late as you just removed CU rights (sorry for that), but you might want to check also this account (perhaps you already did it). Its spam pattern is similar with this. Thank you.” Teles (T @ L C S) 10:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Teles. No problem at all. I performed a CheckUser and Logodesignbuzz and Thongkaka27 are   Unrelated. I did locally block Thongkaka26 however as a sock of Thongkaka27 and I blocked the underlying IP address on mediawikiwiki for a week too. Logodesignbuzz didn't use any more accounts. Kind regards, Trijnstel (talk) 10:17, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Awesome. Thanks.” Teles (T @ L C S) 10:21, 22 February 2012 (UTC)


I have been a long member of Wiki in general, exactly is since 2008. I have been contribute mainly in Vietnamese Wikipedia and Vietnamese Wiktionary and currently a sysop in vi Wiktionary. I just started to contribute in English Wikipedia for few months then i entangled myself into many blocks due to accusation of insulting people. Part of it is the natural of culture's conflict. Like i said many times to them, in my culture what i said will not considered as insult. I have never vandal once since i joined Wikipedia. [1]. As you can see, after many years of contributing in Vi Wikipedia and Wiktionary, i have never been blocked before. That says something about me. I want no trouble nor do i wish to cause trouble. My wish is just the same as most people here that it is i'm trying my best to make Wiki as best as possible. It all started when i went to English Wikipedia and culture conflict started. They have blocked me permanently now and this is their reason "You have been blocked indefinitely from editing post your refusal to admit the initial mistake and statement that you shall continue the same line of arguments as before than changing the same". I would call this dictator? They tried to force me to live by their culture, this is not wiki for. Wiki is not just for English users, it's for ALL people in the world with all CULTURES! Isn't it? I think i have been abused. Hope you can help me fight for justice. If you have time, you're welcome to read all the discussions and arguments related to my blocks. I have nothing to hide, it's all there. I'm clearly being provoked by countless of sysops (obviously they are all friends to each other and tried to protect each other). As you can see a bunch of sysops have nothing to do with me but went to my talk page and provoked me and made up excuses to blocked me. Plus for 3 times they blocked me for about 1 or 2 weeks. I think you should review them too. It's not even fair, they just simply tried to shut my mouth since they can't argue with me. Hope i have found a correct person to ask for help. Trongphu (talk) 22:56, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

  Comment My apologies for the delay. A response will follow soon. Trijnstel (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
This sounds like a difficult problem. I should read it more carefully to think of the people who might (or might not) be able to help you. Trijnsteltalk 23:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Watcher list

Hi Trijnstel, you recently added me to the Watcher user list. It worked at first, but now when I try to use it I get a "Sorry, you're not on the access list" message. Can you check that I'm still properly registered please?
Also, you suggested that I should get a SUL account. I've got one mostly working now, but it won't recognise my MediaWiki account - the password must be different (I'm not sure how because I don't think I've ever used it). I've left a message at the MediaWiki Support Desk, but no one has responded. I'm not sure if it's the right place though. Can you advise?
Thanks, Bazonka (talk) 19:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

  Comment My apologies for the delay. A response will follow soon. Trijnstel (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Bazonka. Here are the answers to your questions:
1) You're still on this list with all people who have access to the watcher user list. So it should work...
2) Your account "Bazonka" is unified, except for mediawikiwiki. This is most likely because you're not that person. You should ask a renaming (usurpation as it's called) of the local bureaucrats of mediawikiwiki: mw:Project:Requests#Requests for renames. If you need help with that, feel free to ask of course. Good luck!
Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 23:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
I've cracked it. I was logging in as "bazonka", whereas it was only recognizing "Bazonka". For some reason it kept changing the B into a b, but I've managed to get past it now. Thanks for the advice with Mediawiki - I'll raise it with the bureacrats. Bazonka (talk) 17:07, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Reply of diff 3517737

Hey Trijnstel, to let you know, I think having the exact username is not mandatory there as there is a link to the userpage. You can see Mav's name at the top for example. I hope you will re-consider. Thanks! — Tanvir | Talk ] 11:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. I undid my edit.   Regards, Trijnstel (talk) 22:48, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Steward requests for Scanno/Scann

Hi Trijnstel, I put my requests here and here. Could you please tell me if they're all right? I don't know if I'm missing something. --Scanno (talk) 02:13, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

It's perfectly done. MBisanz renamed Scanno on the English Wikipedia - on Wikimedia Commons and the Estonian Wikipedia both are on hold. Trijnsteltalk 23:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Spamming you about spam...

Any input here would be good and feel free to make others aware of it. Thanks & regards --Herby talk thyme 15:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I saw it. Will respond there as soon as I have the time for it. Thanks for informing me. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 23:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


Hi, I understand you think I was ignoring what happened, but for sure I was ashamed about that; bringing it to my personal life, when something bad or tragic happens, I try not to think about it for some time and after give a solution, avoiding deciding fastly. It might be a different way to deal with problems, okay, I made a mistake and take charge of it. Earlier, I apologized in IRC, however as it's difficult to remember you were there, I need to apologize to you now, a true sorry. PS: This is a copy I sent to Snowolf, you wanted to know the same thing. --Luckas msg 15:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Apologies accepted. :-) And indeed, I did think you didn't care about it all and ignored us. Now I understand why you did it and it's completely understandable. Please don't worry about it anymore. As I said, anyone can make mistakes (I made some huge mistakes myself too; both as an admin on the Dutch Wikipedia and as a steward), but as a long as you learn from them it's not a big deal. Take care and good luck from now on! Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 23:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


Thank you for this! ;) See you. --Reder (talk) 19:32, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! I just noticed it by accident. Trijnsteltalk 19:53, 12 March 2012 (UTC)


hi.Manager is need for.I'm need for management tool/ What do.?[2]E THP (talk) 12:08, 16 March 2012 (UTC).

Dear E THP. I see an RfA has begun on gag.wikipedia and a request has been filed here. I guess you would like to have administrator rights there? Trijnsteltalk 22:10, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


  Vriendelijke groeten, Mathonius (talk) 17:37, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Hahaha, graag gedaan hoor! Het was een kleine moeite. Groeten, Trijnsteltalk 17:41, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


Hallo Trijnstel, het misbruikfilter dat je op ki.wikipedia hebt ingesteld, doet z'n werk voortreffelijk. Zou je het - bij gebrek aan een global abusefilter - ook op bxr.wikipedia, ik.wikipedia en na.wikipedia willen invoeren? Met vriendelijke groet, Mathonius (talk) 04:37, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

  Done. Ik heb beide filters (ook filter #2 - je weet immers maar nooit) ook ingevoerd op andere drie projecten. Ze staan op "disallow", wat betekent dat het filter de wijziging in kwestie voorkomt. Mocht je veel valspositieven tegenkomen, laat het me dan even weten. Dan pas ik het filter aan. Met vriendelijke groet, Trijnsteltalk 11:23, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Super! Bedankt voor het invoeren. Ik heb op een pagina in mijn gebruikersnaamruimte links toegevoegd naar de filterlogboeken en zal die elke dag even bekijken - net zoals ik dat op mediawiki, wikisource en commons doe. Als ze niet goed werken, dan geef ik hier weer een gil. ;) Vriendelijke groeten, Mathonius (talk) 14:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


hi .Active users wiki gag proclaimed their views about the management and Bureaucrat.If possible, keep a permanent management.gag:Vikipediya:Meydan#salam.Manager_and_Bureaucrat_is_need_for.--E THP (talk) 10:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Dear E THP. With such a small community (according to the active users list you're the only real active user overthere, besides bots etc.) we can't grant you permanent sysop rights. You now got it for six months, which is also quite some time. Permanent 'crat rights is not possible either (and we don't give temporary 'crat rights away). Sorry. Trijnsteltalk 11:39, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Thankful.--E THP (talk) 12:07, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Block Request

Can you block my global wikimedia account?--Player23 (talk) 04:25, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

  Done. FYI: this CheckUser request. Trijnsteltalk 09:52, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ms. Fodor

Hi! I have done what requested. Thanks for writing and best regards, --Burumbátor (talk) 06:57, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Trijnsteltalk 09:52, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


Hi, Trijnstel. Thanks for the warning. Because I had connection problems. I thought I had been wrong to put the name "MasterSock," because I thought it was a translation error.Érico msg 23:00, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I see Teles already blocked the account soon after I informed you. :) Trijnsteltalk 11:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


Hello Trijnstel. I think it's up to you. Greetings, -- Quentinv57 (talk) 16:15, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh someone has already prodded. :-) billinghurst sDrewth 10:23, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I locked that day three accounts: Carliitaeliza, Miss apple (manzana) and No a la SOPA,. See also this CU request. Therefore I wouldn't support an unlock. Trijnsteltalk 13:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello i’m carliitaeliza,i request my un block, i´m sorry not remember my password, i´m trying remember 14:12, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Please read the reply I posted above and see that CU request. I don't support an unlock. Trijnsteltalk 14:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
  • thank you,you can help me to remember my password? 14:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanxs,but i'm trying but no do function,the other day i´m try ando say:the incorrect password,:( 14:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

  • I´m try and say:<You cannot reset user's passwords because you are blocked globally.> 14:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
    • And I said I won't unlock you. Trijnsteltalk 17:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Please see the positive side, I request not unlock me now, on a more time, I’m changing ,on 8 months later i back to request this i can back to request this later? do you understand? 18:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I have the capacity,want to improve like user or people,just to ask a new chance now not ,but if in an future,on 8 months on december 15th you can give a chance? greetings 18:29, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


Hoi Trijnstel. Voor wat het waard is, maar eigenlijk vooral omdat ik zelf geen duidelijk beeld had van de BrandonSky-kwestie, heb ik op User:Mathonius/Reports/BrandonSky een overzichtje samengesteld. Wie weet komt 't nog van pas. Met vriendelijke groet, Mathonius (talk) 17:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Dat is inderdaad wel handig! (Ik weet zelf ook vrij weinig van die BrandonSky sokpopper, vandaar.) We houden het in de gaten. :) Trijnsteltalk 17:54, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Resetting passwords

Thank you for the note, please clarify/confirm I can have a universal password (or itcan be the same), for wikipedia, wikisource, meta, etc. Currently have different ones for each and for english and spnanish. --Gumr510906 (talk) 17:54, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you already have a universal password as the account "Gumr51" is a SUL account, see Gumr51 [stalktoy] – [cross-wiki edits] ... Trijnsteltalk 18:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Not a problem, I already reset the password, I was not aware that I have a single password, this explains why when I tried to log into Meta, with whateverpasswordI remembered, did not work, and why had to create a temporary account. Always learnsomething new. Thanks.--Gumr51 (talk) 18:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Lovely and you're welcome.   Btw, we're not able to delete/remove accounts. Trijnsteltalk 18:14, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


Hallo Trijnstel,

Zie dat je actief bent op diverse wiki-projecten? Zou je mij misschien willen helpen om de Nederlandse wikiversiteit ( te verbeteren?


Tim, Timboliu (talk) 18:25, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Hoi Tim/Timboliu. Ik heb hier al meer van gelezen, met name vorig jaar. Zo las ik onder andere dat er op de Nederlandstalige Wikibooks een dergelijk initiatief is gestart: b:nl:Wikiversiteit. Zie ook wmnl:Wikimedia:De kroeg#Nederlandse wikiversiteit en b:nl:Wikibooks:Lerarenkamer/Archief 2011#Opstarten Wikiversiteit in het Nederlands. Daarbij wil ik de opmerking van Blueknight graag onderschrijven: "Waarom concurreren i.p.v. te samenwerken? Een actieve en betrokken gemeenschap bouw je niet zomaar op." Trijnsteltalk 18:35, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Bedankt voor je reactie. Het initiatief op wikibooks ben ik inderdaad bekend mee. Zoals ik reeds eerder aangaf is dit niet de juiste plek. Daarbij heb ik voor een iets andere opzet gekozen. Maar goed, ik respecteer je mening. Wellicht dat je op termijn je mening nog aanpast en mij zou willen helpen. Met vriendelijke groet, Tim Timboliu (talk) 12:28, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
  Comment: The reply above was posted after the topic was archived. Trijnsteltalk 13:14, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Sysop (administrator) request on

Hello, Trijnstel,

I've created this page on Ido wiki for others to manifest their approval or not concerning my request to be a sysop there. Is it the kind of page needed, in this case? Best regards, Joao Xavier (talk) 22:42, 12 May 2012 (UTC) (sorry if my English is not so good).

Hi Joao Xavier. Thanks for providing me this information! I added the link to SRP - see here. Please make sure the other editors of io.wikipedia see your RfA and are able to vote (i.e. post it in the local village pump). Your request is on hold for a week, until 19 May. Good luck in advance. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 11:19, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

शंतनू is most unwanted person

Hello, Trijnstel,

How come you have given continuation for admin rights to शंतनू on mr@wikisource. He has given wrong information to you. He is most unwanted person and lot many members are shouting against his working on Marathi community. Please look in to the matter. Thanks

Neetin kadu (talk) 08:59, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Neetin kadu. Could you please provide some evidence of what you're saying? I gave the admin rights to शंतनू for another six months as he started a local discussion on mr.wikisource - he didn't receive supports nor opposes, but as it was there for a week now I assumed it was okay. I'm willing to listen to you and to revoke the rights, but not without some evidence of course... Thanks in advance for your understanding. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 10:10, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I was unable to locate any complaints either on his extension request or his talk page. I also notice that you're not active on mrwikisource, unless I'm mistaken, the circumstances leave me a bit puzzled. I would suggest that discussing the matter with the user himself would be an appropriate measure, or pointing us to where the matter has already been discussed. I have also notified the user that concerns have been raised regarding the extension so that he can fully comment here should s/he wish to do so. Snowolf How can I help? 15:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Snowolf

What Neetin Kadu says is correct. शंतनू is a controversial member on Marathi community. As mr@source did not have village pump all the discussions are happening on mr.wikipedia village pump and where there are lot many members have issues against him. One reason is probably he has no experience of wiki community and roles and rules and trying to do experiments for self learning. Check his editing experience on all Wikipedia community at the time he has given first admin ship one can easily understand. -Hari.hari (talk) 02:55, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

If that's the case - several discussions on the village pump of mrwiki (mr:विकिपीडिया:चावडी/प्रगती) - then could you please provide us a few links to them? Trijnsteltalk 20:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

administrator request for

I have placed a request as permanent adminsitrator at [[3]]. Thank you for reminding. --Khalid Mahmood (talk) 19:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Lovely. I added a note so that the other stewards won't remove your admin rights in the next week. Trijnsteltalk 20:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


What's the deal, Trijnstel?

I look for information on a topic, not finding anything, I create an account and add a stub. When I go back to add some information I found, I find that the article is deleted. When I ask why on the discussion page, the discussion page is deleted and so is my account?

How is this supposed to encourage community contributions? I would have to describe my first interaction with the wikipedia community as: "Hostile". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Christopherprice (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2012‎

I suggest you to take a look at your user talk before complaining. I quote Savh: "This is not Wikipedia, please see Meta:About. Wikipedia is here." Trijnsteltalk 22:02, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Update: I really hope to get some feedback. Perhaps I owe you an apology about my account deletion as it may have just been part of the username change process (It seems that my request to change my username to ChristopherPrice was completed). Seriously, though, I don't understand the policy. Doesn't the referred to G7 require a "known and definable historic context"? That is why I linked to the very popular TED video. Christopherprice (talk) 22:08, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think you understood what I said. This is not Wikipedia, this is Meta-Wiki. And besides, that is completely out of scope. Trijnsteltalk 22:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


You have email and I should have said - should the account be locked? You may wish to discuss that elsewhere. Best --Herby talk thyme 16:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take the appropriate measures. Will inform others about it. Trijnsteltalk 16:26, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Meta:Requests for adminship/Receptie123 (temp)

That was an unbelievable close conflict! I've moved the page to add (temp) to the page name following the format for other temporary requests. Best, The Helpful One 20:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Thehelpfulone... Wow, that was really unbelievable! I saw the red link (Meta:Requests for adminship/Receptie123) and I thought - did I make a mistake in the title name? And then I saw that you changed the page name. xD Thanks for fixing though. It's good to know that we have so many active crats here! ;) Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 20:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome - Trijnstel as the next crat! ;) The Helpful One 20:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Nah. This example shows to me that Meta doesn't need any more crats now. ;) Trijnsteltalk 20:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Dank voor de ondersteuning

Hallo Trijnstel, Ik dank u voor de ondersteuning en de beoordeling. Er zijn redenen voor een desysop voor mij op wikiquote, maar inactiviteit is dat niet. Ik zal me nog een tijdje rustig houden aldaar en kijk dan of er nog wat te redden is. Aventicum (talk) 20:42, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Graag gedaan. Ik vond de hele gang van zaken op z'n zachtst gezegd nogal vreemd. Hopelijk kunnen jullie eruit komen op nl.wikiquote. Trijnsteltalk 20:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
nee we komen er niet uit. ik heb nu de desysop op Wikiquote aangevraagd - opnieuw een triest dieptepunt, ook na Wikipedia (ik was sinds 2004 actief in de Wikimedia familie). Jarenlang hebben we Wikiquote met een groepje prima schoongehouden, maar helaas heeft een groepje troublemakers van Wikipedia hun vechtterrein naar Wikiquote verplaatst. Met zijn allen tegen een (MDD), ik heb geprobeerd de balans een beetje te herstellen, maar heb ook geen kans tegen dit groepje. Ik geef het project Wikiquote nu op. Elk project krijgt de gemeenschap die het verdient. Als dat zelfde zooitje nu ook nog naar Wikibooks komen, dan denk ik dat ik er maar helemaal mee ophoudt. Wikimedia van 2012 is heel anders als Wikimedia van 2004. Van mijn toenmalige idealisme is bijna niks meer over. Nu ik dit schrijf, merk ik dat ik er helemaal geen zin meer in heb. Ik laat me ook desysoppen op Wikibooks. Groeten Trijnstel: jij lijkt me wel een goede (heb ooit onder een van mijn vorige namen van jou een mail gekregen, wat betreft de sysop op Wikipedia, dat ik ook lang heb gedaan) - jij hebt kennelijk wel dat idealisme en het geduld om het op te nemen met dat wat over blijft. Veel succes en groeten Aventicum (talk) 20:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Ha Aventicum. Tja, ik probeer de mensen een beetje in het gareel te houden. ;) Nee, grapje, maar misschien komt het feit dat ik wat geduldiger ben dan jij ook wel omdat ik nog maar relatief kort meedraai op de Wikimedia projecten. Ik ben echter geen idealist - zo zou ik de eventuele invoering van Google ads/reclame absoluut niet steunen - maar ik vind het wel mooi om te zien hoe vaak Wikipedia geraadpleegd wordt en dat de encyclopedie steeds betrouwbaarder wordt. Ik heb jou niet gekend in de tijd dat jij moderator was op de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia en weet dus ook niet hoe jij toen was, maar desondanks vind ik het altijd jammer om te zien dat iemand vertrekt. Om wat voor reden dan ook. Het ga je goed en mocht je nog eens zin hebben, kom gerust terug uiteraard. :) Besef goed dat niet iedereen is zoals sommige anderen. Met vriendelijke groet, Trijnsteltalk 21:17, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

temp admin access @ilowiki


Just need clarification, I'm not sure if the last message I got from you was auto generated or there's something wrong with my recent request, expires soon or extended?--Lam-ang (talk) 23:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Oops! No, you're completely right. I made a mistake. The notice is removed now and I added a note to this page that your rights are extended. Thanks! Trijnsteltalk 00:11, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

wikt:vi:Thảo luận Thành viên:Trijnstel#Hi

Trongphu is a sysop in Vietnamese Wiktionary. But he has been blocked indefinitely from editing English Wikipedia, so he hates English sysops. Sorry you for that. Tranminh360 (talk) 13:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tranminh360. Ah, sweet of you for letting me know. I wasn't aware of that. But ehm, I'm not an English admin either; I'm Dutch. ;) Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 14:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Mainline (talk · contribs · CA)


Hi! Could see if a global lock could be done in this account? Érico msg 21:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I already looked at that, but unfortunately it's not possible. It's a non-SUL account and it uses two highly dynamic IP addies... Trijnsteltalk 22:14, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for checking.Érico msg 22:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey Trijnstel. I just performed the block and answered you there. Again, thanks for your help with spambots ! :-) -- Quentinv57 (talk) 05:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
For your info, I've blocked it on and requested local blocks on old.wikisource and According to the various logs, he tried to spam there as well. I'm not 100% sure the account is also related, by the way. Cheers, Mathonius (talk) 06:42, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I checked him on the last three wikis (strategywiki, specieswiki and sourceswiki), but I absolutely have no idea how we can stop him. Too many different dynamic IPs and other information which differs. He can't be locked and I can't globally block an IP or range sadly. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 12:10, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks to Quentinv57 who provided this solution; I've added this user to the global title blacklist, see here. Trijnsteltalk 12:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


Hoi Trijnstel. Zie ook hier. Bedankt voor uw werk! — MA (audiencia) 14:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure I'll consider using that, but I'm not sure if the flood flag will work for locking stuff. Shouldn't we use the bot flag instead? Regards, Trijnsteltalk 15:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Flood worked. I've used it for that stuff in the past :) Regards. — MA (audiencia) 17:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

COI bot

Just so that I am not looking in the same places as you... Where did you pick up on & Maybe worth noting that this and this are likely linked... Cheers --Herby talk thyme 15:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I found both because of IRC global lock requests of Special:CentralAuth/Carolynross09 ( and Special:CentralAuth/Jhonreymobescart ( TheCavalry checked that last account for me on the English Wikipedia and found two more sockpuppets, which I subsequently blocked. Kimberlyopenwave is stale now. Trijnsteltalk 15:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks - appreciated --Herby talk thyme 16:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Doãn Hiệu@vi.wikibooks

Hi, Trijnstel. Doãn Hiệu requested an extension here, and Billinghurst extended by 12 months. Kind regards, Tranminh360 (talk) 13:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tranminh360. You're right. I must've missed that. Thanks for pointing me to this. I corrected it and will leave Doãn Hiệu alone for 1 year. ;) Trijnsteltalk 13:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

re:Global rollback

Thanks you very much for the membership and the support. Regards --Ignacio   (talk) 21:39, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome of course. And good luck with the new tools! Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


Hello Trijnstel! I saw you've reverted this my edit, actually I was convinced that that change was good for everyone. I removed the signature because that is the only template here on meta that includes already it (on mediawiki for example the signature isn't included on the template), so I did it in order to standardize it with the other ones too. Furthermore, for me for instance it's not so useful the signature preset seeing that I'm used to pressing this button   by now so that 2 signatures are shown (maybe for you it is, since you don't use that template so often -being a sysop-). If there's no problem, I think the signature may be removed. Regards, :) --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 13:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually, I *do* use this template very often. It doesn't matter if I'm an admin or not; I just inform people of a page of them I deleted. And this is not the only template on meta which contains an automatic signature. The template {{spam}} has this too. I like the automatic signature as it's quick and easy. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 13:51, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Ok, no problem :). As if I had not said anything. Thanks anyway. --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 14:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Amazon IP blocks

Hi Trijnstel! I've been using my Amazon Kindle Fire to use Dab Solver to edit. Even when I'm logged in to my account, I've been getting occasional errors saying the IP address has been blocked. The IP addresses are not always the same. How can I continue to edit on the Kindle Fire without getting this error? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Could you please leave me a {{talkback}} message on en.wikipedia when you reply? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:28, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Ask for global IP block exemption at Steward requests/Global permissions if it says "Your IP address has been blocked on all wikis."--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:50, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi GoingBatty. Several large ranges of the Amazon Web Services are globally blocked for infinity since July 2010 because of cross-wiki trojan/spam attacks. Unfortunately I can't unblock those ranges, but I have another solution. Could you please post the exact block message you get/got on this page, my user talk page? Therefore I can validate it and give you a global IP exempt if it's correct. After that you can continue editing. Thanks for your understanding. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 12:41, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response. Last night was the first time I received the errors. I'll have to do some testing when I'm logged in (and not logged in) to duplicate the issue, and then hope I can copy & paste from the Kindle Fire. I'm also reading your edit notice, so I'll first check the Fire's browser's proxy setting.
While I definitely appreciate any exemptions you would make just for me, I hope that we could take steps to ensure that Wikipedia would not be "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit (unless you're using a Kindle Fire)". I'm concerned that many people, especially IPs making their first edits, won't understand all the steps necessary to request an exemption and just give up. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:52, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I understand your concerns, but due to the large amount of spam we receive every day we have to block ranges (+some legit users). Trijnsteltalk 14:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Luckily, I was unable to duplicate the issue yesterday. When I wasn't logged in, my edits were saved under a Comcast IP. When I was logged in, I didn't get the error. Hopefully it was a one time issue - in which case I apologize for overreacting. If I get the errors again, I will let you know. Thanks for your kind explanations, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Good to hear. :) And sure, come back when you need my help. Trijnsteltalk 19:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Can I ask you a question?

Before reading it, I'm sorry if I have an inappropriateness of expressions. I'm not english speaker, Please understand me.

I am only active user in one inactive wiki. If I want to have a temporary mop(for maintenance, etc), I can do steward request. But, I confused, local crat exists. He is just inactive in it, active in another wiki. However, because I'm only active user, election discuss is impossible. What can I do? I have possible that I can request steward requesting? Otherwise, I request temporary permisson to local crat? --Sotiale (Talk·Contribs) 01:38, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sotiale. It doesn't matter that you don't perfectly speak English - I understand you. :) I assume you're talking about the Korean Wikisource (ko.wikisource), right? That project has five admins and one bureaucrat. I advice you to make a local announcement of your request for admin rights on the local village pump or request for adminship page. After you did that, please add your request to Steward requests/Permissions#Administrator access. It usually lasts a week before we decide if we grant the rights or not. After that week we can give you the admin rights if the bureaucrat isn't active. If you still have any questions left, feel free to ask them of course. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 18:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your considerate reply :) Korean Wikisource can request for adminship (because of at least 3 active users exist). I already run for adminship discussion. local crat on the Korean Wikisource is long inactive (His final activity is 2007), I will do steward request.. :) That is Korean Wikiquote, 1 crat and 2 admins exist. Korean Wikiquote has 3 active editing users(1 month, including my edit). But, other 2 users edit count is 9, and rarely connects it. I already made a local announcement on the local village pump. "Please leave the message if you see it. If any users and administrator do not exist here, I will request temporary adminship." I assume that I cannot run for permanent adminship discussion, because there is no users. Although I make a local request, anyone will not see it. my thinking is right? --Sotiale (Talk·Contribs) 07:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Yup, you're right. But you can get admin rights for a longer period, let's say a year. Please provide a link to your local request on SRP btw. Trijnsteltalk 09:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
You mean such case that anybody cannot discuss about adminship (because any users don't exist)? longer period a local announcement(for example, 1 year announcement but anyone didn't discuss) is possible getting admin flag? and Wikisource discussion started July 13. as far as I know, request condition is at least 1 week. Before then, request is impossible. right? therefore, I will request July 20 :) I'm so sorry to ask you many questions. I concern that It's like annoying things... --Sotiale (Talk·Contribs) 10:36, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh no, you don't have to wait a year to get the rights. I mean you can *get* the rights for a year. So please request it on 20 July. :) Trijnsteltalk 10:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I understand :) I will request about result of adminship discussion in wikisource July 20. Because I made Wikiquote local announcement July 17, I will request about temporary adminship of wikiquote July 24. Thank so much.. :) Have a good time! --Sotiale (Talk·Contribs) 10:53, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


Hello, I would like to edit the page "w:ckb:MediaWiki:Common.css" of "ckb.wikipedia" to add this code (Wikipedia logo in the background). But unfortunately there are no active administrator (discussion here)... Is there a help page for this kind of request? Thank you in advance--Ghybu (talk) 20:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ghybu. If there is a local consensus, you could post a request on the Stewards' noticeboard or ask any individual steward or global sysop for their help. Could you please tell me if that consensus exists? This change applies to all users of cbkwiki, so we need to know if other active users agree with it. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 20:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! This request was made ​​to me by w:ckb:User:Calak, active user on "ckb.wikipedia" and who also takes care of administrative things. So this change can be made ​​without fear--Ghybu (talk) 07:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
As I don't speak the language and Calak was blocked recently, I think it's better to ask the local sysops (Aza and Marmzok) to help you. Trijnsteltalk 09:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Admin abuse in Armenian wiki


Hello Trijnstel, my account in the Armenian wiki has been locked for a year. I think that the lock is not fair and an admin has abused its powers. Before that I was blocked only for three days. Tell me where I can challenge their blockage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:32, 17 July 2012‎

You should contact the local admin who blocked you. No reply? - contact other admins. Then the arbcom and as a last solution you may file an RFC. Trijnsteltalk 22:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
I asked this question on the forum (Village pump), because there is no arbitration committee armenian wiki. But I'm more interested in RFS, can you clarify a little bit what it is?-- 09:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Before I explain everything, may I first ask what your user name is and who blocked you on the Armenian Wikipedia? Trijnsteltalk 09:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
OK, my user name is David1992.-- 15:04, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Yesterday your account (hy:User:David1992) was blocked for another year shortly after the 1-year-block expired. The block reason in itself was quite long and contains stuff like "active in an edit war, non-constructive behaviour and ignoring warnings". I pointed the admin who blocked you (Xelgen) to this topic. Trijnsteltalk 15:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
No Trijnstel, I was not previosly blocked for 1 year.-- 17:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Oh, no, you're right. I'm sorry. I didn't notice the unblock log entry. Trijnsteltalk 17:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Second block was a mistake, and it was corrected (unblocked) by admin a year ago.-- 17:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I simply want that the question of my long blocking was discussed and that other users could express their opinion on this issue. Тhere isn't an arbitration committee, admin removed my discussions from the forum, I can not dispute the lock any where except my talk page.-- 17:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
As it became clear for me after the discussion at the forum, many participants did not support the actions of that admin.-- 17:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
He was also been involved in some conflicts with other users before.-- 17:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The situation is being misrepresented by the blocked user. The main point of contention is not about the validity of the block, but its length. The admin who blocked this user is in good standing on hywikipedia, both as an admin and as a wikicitizen. This user, on the other hand, has been involved in a number of repeated questionable actions before, and suffice it to say that a quarter of the discussions on his talk page are warnings from admins. In short - there is no outstanding situation here, and the length of block issue can be fully resolved within the local community. ― Teak (talk) 04:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC) (one of the longest admins on the project)

Good. I'll mark this request as resolved then. Trijnsteltalk 20:35, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

A talk

Hello. Could you please take part in this talk?--Avocato (talk) 10:57, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Avocato. You could use the request pages as named here or contact the crats in private (RAM, Esbardu, Jordz and Võrok - user talk or email). Trijnsteltalk 11:55, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Si Gam as Admin on Acehnese Wikipedia

Hi, Trijnstel. Why I can not deleting or moving pages in Acehnese Wikipedia? Thx. -- Si Gam (talk) 16:34, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Si Gam. I gave you admin rights on acewiki on 20 July for a period of three months. After then you have to ask for an extenstion. Regards, Trijnsteltalk 17:34, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Username changes

Hello Trijnstel. Could you please deal with this request?--Avocato (talk) 12:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, no time for that right now. Trijnsteltalk 16:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


thanks for anti-vandalism activity on Urdu Wikipedia. -- 12:17, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

You're very welcome. :) Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 12:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


Thank you for your quick response in deleting the old revisions of the Berlin Agreement! LouriePieterse 18:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem of course. Trijnsteltalk 18:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

wm2013 blocks

Those blocked users don't seem to have done anything on the Wikimania 2013 wiki. I'm assuming they're globally banned - in which case shouldn't they be blocked or locked out globally, rather than blocked locally? Deryck C. 16:53, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Deryck Chan. I performed a CheckUser and all accounts are known spambots, confirmed via CU. I'll globally lock them soon. :) Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 22:00, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me. I was just a bit overwhelmed by the long block log generated by a steward who hasn't edited wm2013wiki before! Deryck C. 19:49, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Sure. I understand that. Hopefully this clarifies it and you may always me for a clarification ofc. All accounts are locked now too btw. Trijnsteltalk 22:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


hi.I request status to the the gag wiki .Please note and This.Wiki (gag) Active users are low.--E THP (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but you have only temporary admin rights until September and the project is way too small to have local bureaucrats. So it's a   no. Trijnsteltalk 18:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
This request is for Bureaucratic and management.This is my local request.--E THP (talk) 09:47, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
I can't give you bureaucrat rights and you already have temporary admin rights - besides, this is your previous request, not a new one. Trijnsteltalk 10:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
To check.
If possible.Give permanent management Or Can renew.Allow access to the robot.Thank you.E THP (talk) 18:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I can't give you permanent sysop rights without a new request with enough supports. And for what do you need bot rights? For which account? Trijnsteltalk 20:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
ok ،I will request a new bureaucracy. Please extend my management.Thank youE THP (talk) 09:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
No. Trijnsteltalk 14:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
I guess I should remind E THP that a request means to ask on your wiki first. --Bencmq (talk) 16:37, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Admin rights

Dear Trijnstel, Here it is Monday around 7am; the community doesn't respond to the adminship request discussion therefore no objections. May I get them? I wanna get to work. --Orel Beilinson (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Ehh, what? You want admin rights on angwiki, yiwiktionary and globally and demands me to give you the rights...?   I don't think so. Trijnsteltalk 20:22, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for your time, your help and your space, with Costas78. --Το αλλήθωρο οπόσουμ (talk) 21:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I didn't do much, but you're welcome. Trijnsteltalk 21:35, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


Hello Trijnstel, some admins created a list where they write about violations of other users. Can you tell if there is any rules in Wikipedia that prohibit the creation of such lists?-- 09:11, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi. We don't prohibit these kind of things; that's up to the project itself. But out of curiousity, which list(s) do you mean? Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 10:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Probably because of my bad English, I could not accurately formulate my question.-- 08:29, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for information. Best regards,Maksat (talk) 12:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem of course. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 12:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hidden username

Hi Trijnstel!

Why did you remove my username in this version? Greetings, --Vogone (talk) 16:20, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Vogone. I removed it because you weren't logged in and as such your IP address was visible. It's also suppressed. Trijnsteltalk 20:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay. I just wanted to know the reason. Thank you! Greetings, --Vogone (talk) 17:50, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


Hello there,

Your IP address has been blocked on all wikis. The block was made by Trijnstel ( The reason given is Open proxy: please email if you're affected by this block.

   Start of block: 18:27, 31 July 2012
   Expiry of block: 18:27, 31 July 2013 

You can contact Trijnstel to discuss the block. You cannot use the "E-mail this user" feature unless a valid e-mail address is specified in your account preferences and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is Please include all above details in any queries you make.

It seems there is a second block:

   Editing from has been blocked (disabled) by Zzuuzz for the following reason(s):

Because my provider is assigning IP addresses at random, it would be nice if you could unblock or just my user. Thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MrScoville (talk) 13:58, 18 August 2012‎

Hi MrScoville. As you were using a hotspot which was globally blocked by me, you weren't able to edit. I gave you a global-ipblock-exempt, so that problem should now be solved. You provided a second block though and that one is on the English Wikipedia. You should disable the proxy (changing the settings to "no proxy" should immediately lift the block, see also No open proxies) and/or request a local ip-block-exempt on the specific projects. Here you can see a list of all projects were this IP/range is blocked at the moment (fawiki, dewiki, nlwiki, enwiki and ruwiki at the moment). Good luck with it! Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 14:08, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Multiple abuses and defamation by French Wikipedia administrator

Hello Trijnstel,

I wish to inform you about this message here, as well as this. I will appreciate your comments. My user account on the French WP is Yoav1D3. Best regards, 15:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

If I understand it correctly admins Ludo29 (+OS) and JPS68 are misbehaving? Please start a RFC, but you should know we aren't a global arbcom. Trijnsteltalk 15:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes this is the point, but the attitude of Ludo29 is secondary as it involves only a judgement on a technical point, the validity of the 3RR that I affixed on the two pages in which were an edit war, although I consider that his view point on the matter is unbalanced and his accusation that I was involved myself in the edit war is baseless, I would'nt bother you neither initiate an RFC for that. As for JPS68 the matter is different, this administrator made very serious accusations of bias in several occasions against contributors engaged in editing articles about the israeli-palestinian conflict. Theses accusations were often accompanied by offensive remarks and, in one specific case, beside a false accusation, with a hurtful words game on the "Crystal Night". Therefore, following your advice and as I intended to do I will start in the coming days, probably next week, a RFC in which I will detail solely all theses accusations of pro-israeli bias and offensive remarks made by French WP's administrator JPS68. Thank you for your reply and your attention. Best regards, Yoav 23:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
I should note that, as pointed out in the last comment of the first section you linked, that stewards can do almost nothing unless the French Wikipedia community itself agrees on administrator abuse. I realize that this is a very contentious subject and people get very stressed over it, and that the comment in your last diff is somewhat escalating of the issue, but unless the local community agrees that the admin should be desysopped, Meta can do very little to help your cause.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:23, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello again. This is to inform you that I had decided to postpone my RFC in order to give a chance to dialogue with JPS68 as I've been asked by Creasy (diff) and request him, on his talk page, to substantiate his allegations. Meanwhile a new RAA involving this administrator has been filled out concerning the same issue and contributors than the previous one which brought me here. Therefore, I will wait till the resolution of this RAA before I'll contact him. i will keep you updated. Best regards, Yoav, 11:43, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

IP address blocked on all wikis.

  Resolved. See also OTRS ticket:2012090610008755.

Dear Trijnstel,

I am trying to update contact on Mechanical probe station, but my IP address is blocked. Will you please help me unblock it?

I received the message below: View source for Mechanical probe station

Your IP address has been blocked on all wikis.

The block was made by Trijnstel ( The reason given is Cross-wiki spam: Amazon Web Services - Service has been used for trojan/spam attacks - Little or no good edits - Please email if you are affected by this block.

Start of block: 16:31, 24 December 2011 

Expiry of block: no expiry set

You can contact Trijnstel to discuss the block. You cannot use the "E-mail this user" feature unless a valid e-mail address is specified in your account preferences and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is Please include all above details in any queries you make. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 18:51, 5 September 2012‎

Dear anonymous user. The block you mentioned, was given by user Bastique (a former steward). He globally blocked several ranges in July 2010; nine in total. All for infinity and all for the same reason: "Cross-wiki spam: Amazon Web Services - Service has been used for trojan/spam attacks - Little or no good edits - Please email if you are affected by this block". I do have access to OTRS, but not to if I'm not mistaken. I think it will be best to email to the email address given and ask them for help. It's not a good idea to unblock these for now. Thanks for your understanding. If you have any further questions, please ask. Trijnsteltalk 12:49, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Okeyes to admin...

I didn't add him to the list because it's literally going to disappear in the next 30 minutes when I remove the rights. :) Philippe (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okey... didn't know that ('temporary' can be long or short). Feel free to remove him from the list when he doesn't have the rights anymore. :) Trijnsteltalk 21:30, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Kongres Nowej Prawicy

  Resolved. For the archive: this is the related edit.

Chciałbym w haśle Kongres_Nowej_Prawicy na polskiej wiki wykreślić libertarianizm z infoboksu. Artykuł jest zablokowany i napisane było, że mam się tu skontaktować. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 15:51, 11 September 2012‎

I asked Wpedzich to help me as I don't speak a word Polish and he does. Trijnsteltalk 17:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
It is a request to remove an entry in an infobox. I will forward it to someone who know2s more about the matter at plwiki. Wojciech Pędzich Talk 18:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Wpedzich forwarded it to me, so just to let you know - done :) I wonder though why this person came to you with this issue in the first place :) Powerek38 (talk) 18:18, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, me too. I have absolutely no clue for that. :) Trijnsteltalk 18:21, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I forget..

I belatedly realized that You granted autopatrollers flag to me. Thank you :-) With love, Sotiale (Talk·Contribs) 12:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Trijnsteltalk 12:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

user talk:DangSunM answer

Sorry but you come wrong page. I don't did like that. chack this.[5] [6], And I tell for him --DangSunM (talk) 21:22, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Oops, you're completely right. I'm sorry. I'll leave a note on his user talk page. Thanks for telling me! Trijnsteltalk 21:35, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Please open the IP


{{Opening| Hشello - I Surveillance: Cosmic a week closed on the wrong end of September 2013, Once a year By Shdltfa address - Thanks,}} {{EXPAND IP | 1 = | 2 = <nowiki> bot: Close open proxy </ nowiki> | 3 = Rezabot}} —The preceding unsigned comment was added by کیهانی (talk) 09:56, 16 September 2012

I just do not know my name was wrong, but mistakenly shut down for a week for a year after 2012 was closed —The preceding unsigned comment was added by کیهانی (talk) 10:27, 16 September 2012‎
  Note: this user is affected by a global block and by a local block on fawiki of the OVH range Trijnsteltalk 11:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

@کیهانی: I just gave you a global-ipblock-exempt and I asked a local fawiki admin to give you a local ipblock-exempt. Trijnsteltalk 11:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

And that's now   Done as well; Pouyana just gave you a local ipblock-exempt, so you should now be able to edit again. Trijnsteltalk 11:26, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Northen Sotho Admin Request

Hi, you are an active editor on the Northern Sotho Wiki, please indicate if you support/oppose this admin Request(s)

Thanks in advance. Mohau Talk 07:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not an active editor there as I only informed you about the removal, so I prefer not to vote. Trijnsteltalk 21:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I did not look at the number of edits in the user list hard enough. Thanks for letting me know. Mohau Talk 12:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


I expect that you give me a lot of help, as before.. :) Although I want to take a rest, I'm forced to work... :(

Ko-wikinews have implemented Global Bot policy(local bot policy page, including some English explanation). But I find kowikinews is not global bot approval wiki(Wikisets). As far as I know, Stewards can change Wikisets without bugzilla request. I think.. perhaps stewards need kowikinews consensus, right? If you need consensus for accept request, I will notify community and bring consensus 10 days later. Sotiale (talk) 07:39, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

+inquiring further: I saw three accounts are locked (이창영, 억울하당께, DangsumM: reason; long-term abuse). These accounts are surely evil puppets(they attacked one user for groundless condemnation), but these just attacked kowiki, not multiple wikis. It is best lock(my private opinion), but I don't know account lock criteria. Sotiale (talk) 11:29, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

+inquiring more further(Oh, my.. it is my rudeness, because of many question. sorry): You and billinghurst suggest me about GR, But I cannot fully understand why GR right suggested. I translated GR for Korean(Global rollback/ko), but my opinion, I didn't meet GR criteria. I think, GR works are.. monitor many wikis and report vandal, etc.. But No I has ever done that. I'm confused. Sotiale (talk) 11:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

+fourth question(....) : If ko-wikinews elect new admin exempt me, a problem is raised? I presume stewards don't grant right, Because ko-wikinews is small and can be managed by GS.

I'm sorry, I leave many questions.. Sotiale (talk) 12:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sotiale. Yeah, lots of questions, so you get lots of answers too. :)
  1. Yes, we can change wikisets, but before we are allowed to do so we indeed need consensus. So please organize a local vote or ask the opinion of the community of kowikinews on a different way. If you have this consensus, please mention it on Talk:Global sysops/wiki set and a steward will take care of it.
  2. I didn't know they were locked, but as you mentioned it now... I guess Shizhao has a good reason to lock them. I don't know.
  3. But you can start doing that. :) You would be perfect candidate as you speak Korean, a language not many SWMT volunteers speak.
  4. What do you mean? Every project can have admins; no matter if they're a GS wiki or not. In fact, almost all ko projects are a GS wiki.
Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  1. Thanks! I notified community :)
  2. Then evil puppet (for example, blocked more 2 wikis and his puppet account) can be locked?
  3. On the one hand Korean-mother tongue users are few.. :P (Because Korean portal sites have good knowledge search system and service, perhaps many Korean are not interested in Wikimedia wikis and don't feel the necessity. irony!)
  4. Aha, I misunderstand something. Thanks! ;)
Sotiale (talk) 09:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
What do you mean with this: "Then evil puppet (for example, blocked more 2 wikis and his puppet account) can be locked?" If you want to know more about the locking criteria, you can go to the page Global locks. Usually we only lock vandalism-only accounts and long-term sockpuppeteers. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 13:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I mean that sockpuppeteer exist and He have attacked since 2010. He was blocked at more 2 wikis and has more 60+ puppet account. And I apologize for my boring questions and my awful English ability. Sotiale (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Oh? He has more sockpuppets? Who is he then? No problem though. We understand eachother. :) Trijnsteltalk 14:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
He just used puppet account for community dispute and his accomplishment of intention. But he is not multiple wiki sockpuppeteer, just attacked kowiki since 2010. kowiki community have suffered from his behavior and finally decided consensus. It is that anyone see his pattern, directly do block request. I couldn't report it until now because He is not multiple wiki sockpuppeteer. I want to fix number.. 60+ => 120+.. What can I do? He can be locked? Sotiale (talk) 14:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I think they can be locked, but please report them on Steward requests/Global and refer to the first three locks. Trijnsteltalk 14:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
OK, I will report them. Thanks a lot! :) Sotiale (talk) 09:22, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

OTRS Notification Master

Thanks for the OTRS message. I think the user was confused, because they tried to add the image, and used the full url, then (maybe?) thought their permission needed to be sent again. here Come to think of it, I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often. I've fixed the article, and sent a note.--Sphilbrick (talk) 20:07, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sphilbrick. I noticed this second ticket coincidentally. Thanks for solving the problem. :) I removed and let someone oversight your IP address btw. Trijnsteltalk 20:22, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


  Dutch Cabal
Bedankt voor al je hulp de afgelopen tijd. Het is een plezier om met gebruikers zoals jij samen te werken. -- Dutch Cabal 20:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

--Savhñ 20:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Hear, hear!   Mathonius (talk) 20:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Jongens, het was maar een grapje...   Toch heel erg bedankt voor de waardering! Trijnsteltalk 21:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Administrator access

Hi Trijnstel, please take a look at my request.--Bill william compton (talk) 09:57, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

It looks like Billinghurst already took care of this, see here, so I mark this request as   Done. Trijnsteltalk 15:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


Er staan twee heel grote taalfouten hier: [7]. Mijn vingers jeuken maar ik ga het toch maar niet zelf verbeteren. ;) -- 11:44, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Bedankt! Ik heb het net verbeterd. Hele stomme foutjes inderdaad. (Wie ben jij trouwens? En ik maakte net ook de fout om niet ingelogd te zijn... ;)) Trijnsteltalk 11:54, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Wikinger

Hi Trijnstel. I guess that Wikinger will use whatever means are available to get on someone's nerves a little. Right now, about the only thing he can do is use open proxies, since one of the ISPs he is using is still globlly blocked, and the other one (unblocked) is keeping an eye on him.

I do not see a clear connection between a custom block message and blocking open proxies. There are wikis that block them as routine activity (see e.g. here) immediately after recognising these to be open proxies, regardless of possible vandal activity. One thing is that such vandals actually help us ( = admins, stewards, etc.) locate and seal these points of entry :) so, since blocking OPs is part of the routine activity, I do not see much grounds for custom treatment of such IPs. Wojciech Pędzich Talk 13:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Wpedzich! Thanks for your comprehensive response; I was just wondering if you wanted to know this information and if you wished to do something with it. But for now I'll keep blocking the open proxies I'll see coming by and hopefully Wikinger will stop some day. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 13:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

RE: CheckUser request page?

Hi Octahedron80. I was wondering, is there a special page to requests CUs at this wiki? I wanted to add yours to m:Steward requests/Checkuser/Introduction, but then noticed it didn't exist here. I added instead w:th:วิกิพีเดีย:การตรวจสอบผู้ใช้, but I don't think that's the right page and as I don't speak Thai it's hard for me to follow... Trijnstel (พูดคุย) 23:32, 13 กันยายน 2555 (ICT)

On Thai Wikipedia, we don't have specific page for CU appealing; we make use of administrators' noticeboard because our users are not eager to know who might be sockpuppets. Instead, we have more activities about reporting vandalism and checkusers automatically work at the point to co-operate with administrators. Moreover, we also have embassy page for non-Thai speakers. So you can link to either the noticeboard or the embassy page. (I recommended the latter choice.) --浓宝努 01:43, 3 ตุลาคม 2555 (ICT)
Thanks for the help! I added the embassy page to it, see here. Trijnsteltalk 21:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


Hi Trijnstel, ich kann in der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia meine eigene Diskussionsseite nicht bearbeiten, obwohl ich eingeloggt bin. Als Fehlermeldung erscheint: "Deine IP-Adresse wurde auf allen Wikis gesperrt." Es soll sich um einen Open proxy handeln, aber das sollte mich nicht betreffen, solange ich angemeldet bin - oder? --Kolja21 (talk) 22:35, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hallo. Das hängt damit zusammen wie der Block gemacht wurde. Der Proxy wurde anscheinend nicht mit der Option "anon only" gesperrt, sondern komplett. Es gibt jetzt verschiedene Möglichkeiten: 1) Versuche einen anderen Proxy, der nicht gesperrt ist, 2) Nimm gar keinen Proxy und editiere so, 3) frage nach global IP block exemption, da wirst du uns aber sagen müssen von welcher Sperre du genau betroffen bist, also entweder offen auf der Seite, oder du schreibst uns eine Mail mit der IP. -Barras talk 22:45, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Danke für die schnelle Auskunft. Heute klappt das Editieren wieder problemlos. Gruß --Kolja21 (talk) 09:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Richero crosswiki/cluster spam

Originating from Italy, using÷ Vodafone network, creates pages since 2006 see

At the moment the pattern consists in registering a new sockpuppet with feminine name, then uploading some photos on and then trying to create any sort of variation with name and (radio) or (deejay) appended to the title, since many wikies have protected the page for multiple recreation of deleted material. Usually deletion tags are spotted and removed. See,, etc.

On a specific abuse filter (87) has repeatedly blocked the page re-creation. I strongly recommend other targeted wikies to setup similar heuristic filters to avoid further inconveniences. Also Vito has dealt with this spammer in the past.

Ciao, --M/ (talk) 18:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi M7. That's a real long-term vandal... Since you now mentioned the full name, I see he tried it on nl-wiki too: nl:Marian Richero. I'll add this title and "MARIAN RICHERO" to our cascade-protected page of forbidden page (names). Thanks for the other information too! If I notice new pages, I'll immediately inform you. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 18:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your interest on this subject. Do you know if there is something to avoid problem also on (see nearly half of my deletion requests there) --M/ (talk) 21:12, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
I think the abuse filter of it-wiki could work. I copied it to commons, though without the block option (#99, it only logs). Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank for your import on May I suggest you to edit the filter, since the version is targeting the creation of a biography and it would not trigger if various conditions are unsatisfied, to better spot uploaded images, since they're only used for the described pattern and are usually copyright violations and/or published in blogs.
(action == 'upload') & (article_namespace == 6) & (lcase(new_wikitext) contains "marian richero")
Thanks a lot, --M/ (talk) 22:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
I could do that, but it's not possible to check wiki-text while uploading, see bugzilla:19565. So it wouldn't make any difference. Trijnsteltalk 22:27, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay, then... Just remove the second "& block", since external links and the like were never added to those image descriptions on commons and broaden the range to include . To avoid false positives against all occurrences of "Marian", substitute the last group with a single test against name+surname. --M/ (talk) 22:35, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
  Done for the range, but I think the external links etc are still useful here. And I saw in your deleted contributions that almost all uploads had the name "Marian" in it, but "Richero" was never mentioned. Therefore I think it's good to just search on Marian. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 14:44, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Please note that if you do not remove the second "&" block condition, the filter will not be triggered if the edits are similar to those seen in the past. --M/ (talk) 17:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I understand you completely, but did I do it correct this way? Trijnsteltalk 18:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Perfect. Thanks again. --M/ (talk) 19:41, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

IP block exempt for my bot on

My bot Makecat-bot's IP was blocked on Dutch Wikipedia. Would you please give it ip-block exempt? I put the request on your talk page because I can't find local policy according to interwikis from English Wikipedia. Thanks. --Makecat (talk) 03:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Sure and it's   Done, see here. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 10:04, 16 October 2012 (UTC)


It seems we both were doing the same thing at the same time ;-) Regards. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I guess you're right. ;) (I deleted the page I created btw, so no worries.) Regards, Trijnsteltalk 13:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Permanent adminship

Hello and thanks for being on my talk page reminding me the expiration. As being the only active admin and much experienced one on the wiki, I need permanent adminship. The community is not so big to elect one. Should I request on meta for permanent adminship? Please prefer replying here. --tari buttar [talk] 01:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

As far as I know, permanent adminship isn't possible without local community consensus, although you can probably be given another (longer) temporary period.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:32, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I think there are two or more admins (totally inactive for years) with permanent adminship who were given the access permanently even when they're the only contributors. --tari buttar [talk] 10:15, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
A few years ago permanent adminship was given very easy. Now we prefer not to give that unless there is an active community, because there is no global inactivity policy yet. You can get longer admin access though (think of 6 months or 1 year), just like Jasper Deng said. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 10:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Global rollback

Thank you very much. :-) Restu20 12:44, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Trijnsteltalk 12:53, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Administrator Request at Punjabi wiki

Trjnstel! Thanks!Announcement done.wikipedian tariButter have made some comments on request page and in same breath recorded no opposition to my adminstratorship request .Do I contest his comments when already I have replied about 144 pages ਵਰਤੌਂਕਾਰ ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ:Guglani#Your 144 pages.. An analysis-reply ?--Guglani (talk) 16:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, you can always do that of course, but I can imagine that you're tired about explaining everything each time. Unbelievable... Trijnsteltalk 22:01, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Guglani, can't you accept and say, "I'll learn"? Why remain sticking to "I've done everything perfectly which not need any improvement"? Be a good editor dear. I think, the details in which I helped/guided you is rare that you didn't appreciated making a single improvement. I don't wanna make the page large by repeating the same. You and some more (including me) were made admins just because the wiki didn't had one but it doesn't mean that we don't need to learn bcz we are admins. I always helped, and want, you to be a good editor which a user must be prior an admin. Sorry if I said something disappointing. --tari buttar [talk] 02:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
TariButtar, is this how you behave towards other colleague admins? I can ask you the same thing: "can't you accept and say, "I'll learn" [...] be a good editor dear." The page protection thing (pa:User talk:TariButtar#Page protection) is a good example. I see you stopped protecting pages, but you haven't removed the protection from the pages either (pa:Special:Log/protect). Besides, your comment that you're willing to unprotect *only* when Vituzzu will help fighting vandalism seems rather strange to me ("But if you wish, I can unprotect them but please you'll help us fighting vandalism."). Try to collaborate a bit... Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 12:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I accept that they both have faults but we are human too. Guglani's faults are much more in comparison to TariButtar's. Although I still need to learn alot, I would like to say Guglani also needs to learn, all his problems were clearly pointed out on his talk page by TariButtar and yet Guglani still refused to do anything about it, please keep watch on our community portal and see how Guglani is trying to censor all that oppose him. --Zarienah (talk) 13:54, 23 October 2012 (UTC)


Hoi Trijnstel, wat vind jij van dit voorstel? Vriendelijke groet, Mathonius (talk) 07:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Aldaar gereageerd. Ik ben het met je eens. Met vriendelijke groet, Trijnsteltalk 11:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

A little glam

For someone with a bit of class. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:13, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I absolutely adore jewelry so this barnstar was made for me. :P Trijnsteltalk 23:17, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Bloqueado por VPN

Hola: Trijnstel. Con gran sorpresa he recibido la notificación de mi bloqueo en la Wikimedia, por motivos de vandalismo acción hecha a cuenta de otros, que se infiltraron en mi red doméstica. Fui hackeado. Hago constar que nunca, en el tiempo que llevo editando, subiendo archivos, corrigiendo, etc. Nunca he vandalizado la Wiki. Por tal motivo tomé la decisión de navegar por una VPN, sin saber que esto también afectaría mi permanencia como wikipedista. Les ruego reconsideren levantar este bloqueo. Y si es el caso desactivaría la misma VPN. Cordial saludo! --Ninrouter (talk) 22:38, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ninrouter. I can't speak Spanish, thus I'll reply in English. I think you're the victim of an open proxy block. Can you give me the blocked IP? Trijnsteltalk 22:42, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Help, please

Please could review my request at Steward requests/Speedy deletions Thanks, --Zarienah (talk) 12:29, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I prefer to wait until the local admin replies as I don't speak the language at all. Or maybe a steward like Tanvir can help? Trijnsteltalk 21:00, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll speak to Tanvir, the local admin has been requested to move it but he seems inactive. --Zarienah (talk) 10:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

IP exemption


The network configuration of the place where I work with Wikimedia (fr.wikisource) is such as now I am forced to use an IP qualified as "Open proxy".

Vous n'êtes pas autorisé à modifier cette page, pour la raison suivante :

Votre adresse IP a été bloquée sur tous les wikis.

Le blocage a été fait par Trijnstel ( Le motif donné est Open proxy: please email if you're affected by this block.

   Début du blocage: 20 avril 2012 à 05:29
   Expiration du blocage: 20130420092947 

Vous pouvez contacter Trijnstel pour discuter du blocage. Vous ne pouvez pas utiliser la fonctionnalité "Lui envoyer un courriel" à moins d'avoir spécifié une adresse de courriel valide dans vos préférences de compte et de n'avoir pas bloqué son utilisation. Votre adresse IP actuelle est Veuillez inclure tous les détails ci-dessus dans toutes les demandes que vous ferez.

I understand it is possible to have a "IP exemption". You can check my activity on french Wikisource. Can you give me the IP exemption (on french Wikisource only) ? Best regards. Sorry for my poor english. --Nyapa (talk) 08:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nyapa. I just gave you a global-ipblock-exempt, so now you should be able to edit on all projects. If not, please contact me again. Regards, Trijnsteltalk 11:59, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. It works. --Nyapa (talk) 06:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


Hi Trijnstel, I saw you do blocking, there is a user at pa.wp that is constantly warring and performed over 48 reverts at here. He has been given many warnings from various users (in talk page). The admin at is inactive and this unconstructive member is now pushing the limit on warring. User:Zarienah has admitted in the community portal that she understood why she would be blocked (see), therefore she is not liable to a block as she has agnowlaged she was wrong, when Babanwalia simply keeps moving the templates to his nonsense word despite the fact that only two people support it. It would be high time that a block is issued before further damage is to be caused. If you also see his talk page he had attitude and wanted me to call the steward. On another note I would like for an admin to be placed in pa.wp, I think it is also time for a proper admin to come into the wiki as I am seeing that the problems in the wiki are always being reported to the stewards while we need a worthwhile admin to help our Wikipedia. VibhasKS (talk) 07:02, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't think a block is needed, if Trijnstel (or any other steward authority) could just notify Babanwalia that what he is doing is wrong, he won't listen to me VibhasKS or anybody else except if they have authority, If Trijnstel could only warn him, he will stop only when a authority warns him so please don't block anyone, everyone there is extremely valuable and blocking the members is not needed. Also know that I warred equally as Babanwalia so I would deserve a block too. But it is simply not needed on that small orphan wiki. --Zarienah (talk) 08:59, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Admin access


My admin request was approved: History of Administrator access


He have sysop from May 2012--Shizhao (talk) 01:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

What was a reason to remove me from admin group?

--Chorobek (talk) 15:11, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Chorobek. My sincere apologies. I removed the temporary rights because I saw that they expired and I must've missed your request and Shizhao apparantly thought that you had gotten permanent rights in May I guess. Anyway I now gave you admin rights for 1 year. Hopefully everything's okay now. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 15:27, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Everything is OK. Kind regards, Chorobek (talk) 01:51, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

CheckUser for suspected Sock puppetry - Help Required

Hi Trijnstel, I am Tahir Mahmood as Administrator on Urdu Wikipedia. We dont have a local CheckUser.

Can you please confirm the following as a Sock puppetry account of User:S.M.Samee (User has been blocked previously for the on English Wikipedia for the Same)

--Tahir mq (talk) 09:30, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tahir mq. I see that you've asked Snowolf too for the same thing, but posting the request on SRCU was the correct thing to do here. Trijnsteltalk 18:32, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


Bedankt voor dit. Fijne avond! --vacio 19:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Graag gedaan. Ik wist niet dat je ook zo goed Nederlands spreekt - dat is een leuke verrassing. :) Trijnsteltalk 20:44, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
:) --vacio 21:01, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Open Proxy Block

Hi, Trijnstel! I need to use an open proxy in my country to get through some Fire Wall to access Wikipedia better. Would you please give me an IP block exemption? Thanks. And here's the details:

You are currently unable to edit Wikipedia.

Editing from your IP address ( has been blocked (disabled) on all Wikimedia wikis until 18:46, 11 October 2013 by Trijnstel ( for the following reason:

Open proxy

This block began on 18:46, 11 October 2012

You can contact Trijnstel to discuss the block and you may make unblock requests or file appeals at meta:Steward requests/Global. Your current IP address is Please include all above details in any queries you make. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eareast (talk) 19:05, 21 November 2012‎

Oops, I totally forgot to reply on this one. Is a global-ipblock-exempt still needed or can you work without it? Trijnsteltalk 15:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


Hello, please help me there. Sincerely. (talk) 22:36, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi The Persian Wikipedia has its own oversighters (see Oversight policy#Persian Wikipedia). You should contact them via email. Trijnsteltalk 23:05, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
sorry but see again my talk page. Sincerely. (talk) 23:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

IP block exempt request

Hello, I come from China and as you know, the Chinese government has blockes access to zh.wikisource, so I have to use an open proxy to visit that site. I would like to edit some pages there, but was told that the IP was blocked on all wikis. So I would like to apply for an IP block exempt. Thank you. Hvn0413 (talk) 04:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Dear Hvn0413. According to SUL and Central Auth you don't have a SUL-account, so I can't give you a global-ipblock-exempt. I can -however- give you a local ipblock-exempt on the wikis where you need it. Can you confirm on zhwikisource that you want an ipblock-exempt? Then I'll give you one locally. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 19:53, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I confirm I need an IP block exempt on zh.wikisource. Thank you. Hvn0413 (talk) 05:43, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Please confirm it on on your user talk page on zh.wikisource and post the link to that edit here. Thanks. Trijnsteltalk 19:10, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Here it is. Kind regards, Hvn0413 (talk) 02:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
  IP block exempt granted, see here. Trijnsteltalk 11:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


Hi there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 04:51, 3 December 2012‎

Hi! How are you? Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:52, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Global unblock

Hi. Sorry for that, although I wonder how Wikinger got hold of an IP belonging to that range... I hope no permanent (or lasting) damage was done. Wojciech Pędzich Talk 21:31, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Wpedzich. According to our open proxy expert RonaldB the IP is a webproxy and that falls within the range. There were at least two people who couldn't edit because of the block (ticket:2012120310012749 and a private email send to me). In any case the problem is solved now. Thanks for the reply! Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

IPv6 range blocked

Hi, we are seeing our entire ISP's IPv6 space blocked: "Trijnstel blocked 2A02:AF8:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 from 16:39, 23 November 2012 to 16:39, 23 November 2013; the reason given was: Open proxy or zombie (more info)" - this is all IPv6 space allocated to AS29550. Could you provide more details about why the whole range has been listed? Thanks Cdp (talk) 10:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Because there were webproxies within that range. And do you have a global account? As Cdp is non-SUL... Regards, Trijnsteltalk 22:13, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply (sorry I dont have a global account at the moment (username taken elsewhere)). If we can find out what range the proxies are within, we can provide a more specific range to cover the proxies rather than blocking the entire ISP space just because of one or two proxies? Cdp (talk) 09:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, yes, that's possible, but IPv6 webproxies are mostly highly dynamic and that's why we block complete ranges. But if you have a SUL account I can give you a global-ipblock-exempt so that you're still able to edit. It's better though to use the original IP instead of working via webproxies. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:55, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


Ofc :D --Vituzzu (talk) 23:30, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

  Trijnsteltalk 22:51, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


Hi - if you have time could you look at my request here please - I see you've dealt with a number of these in the past. My request has been up a week, but seems to have been overlooked. Thanks.Optimist on the run (talk) 23:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

  Done, see here. Apologies for the delay; most admins don't patrol this page sadly that's why I handle a lot of them. Trijnsteltalk 21:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Questions about Oversight

Hi! As a non-English Wikipedia steward, would you mind confirming a few things for me? I just want to make sure I'm saying the right things at w:en:Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbcom, confidentiality, and oversight/Straw poll.

  1. Are the the only two ways to get oversighters appointed a) through a community vote where there is no less than 70% support, or b) through ArbCom? Will the stewards appoint under any other circumstances?
  2. As I understand it, there are only a few circumstances in which oversight may be involuntarily removed: a) with ArbCom's say-so, b) inactivity, c) violation of the m:Privacy policy, d) the Board's say-so, e) a community vote, f) proven misuse of the Oversight extension, g) compromised account. Stewards cannot remove oversight for any violation of admin or English Wikipedia policies, or for any additional responsibilities that the English Wikipedia may have added to the Oversight role, like the above RFC proposes. Is this correct?

Thanks! --Rschen7754 13:33, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Rschen7754. I had to look it up in the Oversight policy to ensure that I won't tell any lies to you. ;) Hope this helps:
  1. Yes. As you can see on Oversight policy#Access: a) arbcom or b) after a local request with 70/80% support and 25-30 support votes. We're very strict in granting access.
  2. Yes, but the rules are less clear here. Oversight policy#Removal of access: a) inactivity, b) abuse (which is quite broad), c) arbcom, d) local vote or e) WMF staff.
But note that we only remove it when it's clear that there is no trust anymore, thus only after a vote, arbcom decision or advice of the staff. Trijnsteltalk 21:49, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Just as a follow-up, in order for oversight to be emergency removed by a steward, there would need to be a violation of Meta's policies, not the English Wikipedia's - is that correct? --Rschen7754 21:57, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, yes, but the Oversight policy and the wmf:Privacy policy are both global policies, not meta ones. en:Wikipedia:Oversight is based on the global ones and maybe some local stuff are added to it, but in principle every oversighter should first act based on the rules mentioned on the global policies and second on the local policy. For example, en:Wikipedia:Oversight#Policy has a fifth valid reason to oversight stuff which the global one doesn't have. So both I'd say. Trijnsteltalk 22:09, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
But supposing that the English Wikipedia tacked on a responsibility completely unrelated to the oversight function to the oversighter position and then an oversighter broke one of the associated rules, the stewards would not remove the flags on an emergency basis, correct? --Rschen7754 22:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Correct, but when that would happen, they probably would lose admin rights based on an arbcom decision or local vote, but we won't decide ourselves, no. ;) And you should know that we *never* remove rights as an emergency action, *only* (and that happened just once or twice or so, for example on hiwiki this year when we removed all extra rights overthere) when there is something seriously wrong; though not on a large wiki as enwp as there is an active community. Trijnsteltalk 22:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay, that answers my question. Thanks! --Rschen7754 22:34, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
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