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Die Bestätigung der Stewards für die Zeit von 2012 bis 2013 wird am 8. Februar 2012 (01:00 MEZ) beginnen und am 28. Februar, 00:59 (MEZ) (= 27. Februar (UTC)) enden.

Der Bestätigungsprozess 2012–2013 ist eine gute Gelegenheit herauszufinden, ob wir nach wie vor mit den derzeitigen Stewards zufrieden sind. Um diesen Prozess so einfach wie möglich zu gestalten, sind die Dinge folgendermaßen organisiert:

Um zu kommentieren, melde dich bitte mit einem Account an, der Edits (in irgendeinem Wiki) vor dem 1. Februar 2012 hat. Während der Stewardwahlen 2012 erwähne bitte, wenn du (als Wähler) mit einer der unten gelisteten Personen unzufrieden sein solltest, insbesondere in Bezug auf Stewardaktionen. Du kannst zum Beispiel anmerken, dass die Person ein inaktiver Steward ist. Oder du kannst das Verhalten des Betreffenden beanstanden. Inaktiven Stewards, wie in diesem Grundsatz definiert, wird ihr Status entzogen.

Am Ende der Wahlen werden die jetzigen und die durch die Wahlen neu gewählten Stewards auf dieser Seite hinterlassene Beschwerden bei der Bestätigung der Stewards berücksichtigen. Mit Hilfe der Kommentare der Gemeinschaft und ihrer eigenen Perspektive und Kenntnisse über diese Aufgabe werden sie gemeinsam entscheiden, den Stewardstatus – falls notwendig – zu entfernen.

Alle Stewards, die vor Februar 2011 gewählt wurden, müssen diesen Prozess durchlaufen (wie jedes Jahr). Für die Stewards, die im Oktober 2011 gewählt wurden, ist in diesem Jahr die Bestätigung optional, da sie noch nicht ein ganzes Jahr als Steward gearbeitet haben. Während der nächsten Stewardwahlen 2013 werden sie am obligatorischen Bestätigungsprozess teilnehmen.

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Andre Engels

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: de-3, en-4, fr-2, nl
  • Informationen zur Person: Definitiv nicht der Aktivste der Stewards, aber immer wieder stolpere ich über einige Sockenpuppen von Edgar oder eine andere Situation, wo ein Steward benötigt wird. Seit Anfang 2012 stehe ich für die Wikimedia-Stiftung unter Vertrag (und kümmere mich für diese um die Analyse von Daten).

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Avraham

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en, he-2
  • Informationen zur Person: Ich bin sehr froh darüber, dass wir im letzten Jahr oder so einen Zustrom von neuen Stewards aus verschiedenen Projekten hatten. Während ich hoffe, dass der Trend sich fortsetzt, glaube ich, dass ich der größeren Wikimedia-Gemeinschaft im kommenden Jahr weiterhin von Nutzen sein kann. Ich bin in Bezug auf stewardbezogene Aktivitäten ziemlich aktiv, wobei ich meinen Hauptfokus auf Checkusertätigkeiten lege. Ich bin erreichbar und antworte im Chat, auf Meta und via E-Mail. Danke für euren Rückhalt in der Vergangenheit. Ich hoffe, ich verdiene auch weiterhin eurer Vertrauen und eure Unterstützung.

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Barras

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: de, en-4
  • Informationen zur Person: Das ist meine erste Stewardwiederwahl, da ich erst letztes Jahr gewählt wurde. Ich denke, dass ich während dieser Zeit doch recht aktiv war. Ich habe meine Stewardfunktionen für verschiedene Dinge eingesetzt, unter anderem um bei Crosswiki-Vandalismus Löschungen und Sperrungen vorzunehmen (hier ist eine Statistik über meine Toolnutzung). Ich habe auch geholfen Spam zu bekämpfen und habe einige Benutzer global gesperrt als auch IP-Adressen blockiert. Zudem habe ich auch einige Rechteänderungen vorgenommen, meistens an meinem Account, um weiteren Vandalismus zu verhindern beziehungsweise diesen zu entfernen. Ich habe aber auch die Rechte anderer Benutzer geändert. Ich helfe eigentlich überall, wo meine Hilfe gebraucht wird, egal ob im IRC oder in den Projekten. Falls es noch irgendwelche Fragen gibt, dann stellt sie einfach.

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Bsadowski1

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo. Dies ist auch meine erste Teilnahme an den Stewardbestätigungen. Ich bin recht aktiv in meiner Rolle als Steward gewesen (Links: Stewardaktivität, Meta-Logs), indem ich Antivandalismus-/Antispamaktionen durchgeführt habe wie zum Beispiel globales Verschließen von Accounts (engl. global locks) und globale IP-Sperren. Ich kommuniziere regelmäßig im Chat und beantworte dort Anfragen mit Bezug auf Crosswiki-Vandalismus (im Stewards-Kanal). Ich hoffe, dass ich weiterhin mit den derzeitigen Stewards zusammenarbeiten und aushelfen kann.

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Darkoneko

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: fr, en-3
  • Informationen zur Person: Ich mache ab und zu einen Fehler, aber ich denke, dass ich insgesamt keine schlechte Arbeit als Steward leiste.

    Für diejenigen, die mich noch nicht kennen:

    • Mein Heimatswiki ist frwiki, die Wikipedia auf Französisch. Ich bin dort im November 2004 angekommen und im März 2005 Administrator geworden. Ich war auch 3 Jahre Bürokrat (Juni 2006 – September 2009), bin aber zurückgetreten, um mehr Zeit für andere Aufgaben zu haben.
    • Ich betreibe einen Bot namens Loveless (siehe [2] und [3]).
    • Ich bin Ende 2006 Steward geworden. Ich beantworte in der Regel keine Stewardanfragen auf diesem Wiki, helfe aber in Notsituationen, die auf IRC gemeldet werden (#wikimedia-stewards). Meine Stewardtätigkeiten (außer Oversight und Checkuser) sind auf dieser Seite zu sehen. Lokale Änderungen auf Meta (z. B. Rechteänderungen) sind dort aufgezeichnet.

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DerHexer

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: de, en-3, grc-3, la-2, es-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Als immer noch einer der aktivsten Stewards konnte ich in diesem Jahr noch weniger Bearbeitungen durchführen als in den letzten Jahren. Von meiner Seite ist ist das vor allem durch die Vielzahl an Stress in der Universität und im normalen Leben zurückzuführen. Außerdem hatte ich mich dafür entschieden, die sehr erfolgreiche Konferenz Wikipedia trifft Altertum zu organisieren, arbeitete etwas mehr an meinem nun exzellenten Artikel de:Laokoon, wurde Mitglied des Community-Projektbudgets von Wikimedia Deutschland und später sogar Präsidiumsmitglied. Aber der Hauptgrund für meine geringere Aktivität sind meine wundervollen Kollegen, die so viele nützliche Dinge effizienter erledigen konnten, als ich dies in meiner knappen Freizeit tun konnte. Daher bin ich ganz besonders stolz darauf, die zweite Stewardwahl 2011 organisiert zu haben, in der wir noch mehr hilfsbereite Kollegen gefunden haben, die mich als erfahrenen Steward auch noch immer um Hilfe bitten. Vielen Dank euch! Ich wäre erfreut, der Gemeinschaft erneut mit meiner Erfahrung und meiner Freizeit im nächsten Jahr zu dienen, danke.

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Dungodung

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: sr, en-3, hr-3, bs-3, de-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo ihr. Ich bin seit Dezember 2007 Steward, somit habe ich eine Menge Erfahrung gesammelt. Nun, ich weiß, dass ich die Stewardknöpfe in letzter Zeit nicht so viel genutzt habe, aber das kommt hauptsächlich daher, dass es einen Wechsel in meinem Leben gegeben hat: Ich bin in die Hauptstadt umgezogen, bekam eine Arbeit und änderte mein Leben völlig, sodass ich wenig Zeit für andere Dinge übrig hatte. Wenn ich mich daran völlig angepasst haben werde, hoffe ich darauf, meine Aktivität als Steward erhöhen zu können. Ich habe lange darüber nachgedacht, ob ich ausscheiden soll oder nicht, aber einige Wikifreunde brachten mich davon ab. Ich bin dankbar, wenn mir eine weitere Amtszeit beschieden wird, um Wikimedia und seinen Projekten bescheiden zu dienen. Danke.

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  • Keep Keep -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep --Zyephyrus (talk) 23:44, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep. Courcelles (talk) 00:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep Dungo is a very kind and helpful person, even with those who were not so kind with him in the past. Always careful and with lot of selfcontrol. In situations of great tension, he always stayed calm and objective. He is young, but many older people can learn a lot from him. Strong support. --Maduixa (talk) 09:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose Regardless of such an opening above, I also have experienced a totally opposite approach of Dungodung. We did not have had much conversation for some time and one could say he might have changed in the meantime, of which I would not be as certain as someone who occasionally sees his comments on sr.wiki. I do not expect this vote to have much impact on the confirmation outcome, but I also would make remark that if the voting outcome was all that matters, we would never advance and become better wikipedians. I intended my vote to be warning that certain improvements can be made in the approach, which can be initiated either by the environment, or by the candidate himself. When I notice such improvements, my vote will change. 本 Mihajlo [ talk ] 07:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Can you outline briefly what problems you have noticed in my behaviour/wikiing? You say "improvements", but how can I improve if I don't know what it is that needs improvement. Thanks --FiliP ██ 07:16, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    For quite some time yet there is a trend that addresses not only the necessity of a fine work that can be measured through the protocolar and other logs on Wikimedia servers, but also makes more demands on existence of strong ethical norms built within a person that has taken the role and acts as a steward not only on the projects but also on other occasions that are of importance for presenting the community under a steward's hood. I would remind the whole auditorium that I only supported Dungodung before 2007 2011, so it would be safe to assume he did a few very wrong moves in the meantime to earn such a vote. I must make remark that, in my very belief, his personality has changed in the way I would take the liberty of finding ethically dislikable. Reading this, I do not really feel encouraged to post here about the things that would be helpful in making my point. Although it does not really surprise me Dungodung *does not remember* what he did wrong when presenting himself as a Steward -- of course, here he can deny every mistake that is not really linkable, and I am not about to give him that joy -- I would assume good faith and offer him simple live talk. There is a whole year till the next vote.本 Mihajlo [ talk ] 22:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, I understand that you have unresolved personal issues with Dungodung, and you voted the way you voted. But why you called a blocked sockpuppeter and his friends to come here to support you?Isn't that pathetic?--Wikit 19:39, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I am really displeased there are assumptions tending to reduce my partake in this vote to some low personal level, totally diminishing the need to assume I am acting in best faith -- for which I gave enough space to the best of my belief. As such, those assumptions speak rather of the ones who made them. But this comment above has gone even further to the level I shall classify as irrational shooting in the dark. Oh, I am getting it! The sockpuppeter guy below insults the whole lot of people and then I am the one to be addressed back by the ones who do not only fantasize I called him here, but also are trying to insult me back. I am just not getting how could *I* be called *pathetic* then. :D To elaborate: Thank you for the comment; it tells me how you are thinking and what you are probably doing on the sr.wiki project. 本 Mihajlo [ talk ] 08:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Како то тврдиш да су дошли по позиву само они који нису изразили сагласност, а ти си дошао спонтано? Зар није доказан супротан пример да су позивани гласачи и са друге википедије? Та „технологија” ти је много блиска. Ово смо гласање пресликали на излед гласања на ср вики и то захваљујући оваквој необјективности.--Sahara (talk) 20:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose --Bas-Celik (talk) 05:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose --Sahara (talk) 07:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose --SmirnofLeary (talk) 22:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC) Insufficiently involved in disputes between users on project of Wikipedia in Serbian language. My voice against because once he sided with one group of users, and another group called „hyper-nationalists“. I think this is inappropriate behavior of one administrator.[reply]
  • Keep Keep Strong support.--Павлица talk 14:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose Zašto mislim da Dungodung ne zaslužuje mesto stjuarda: - Nezaineresovan je za poboljšanje, dalji razvoj i unapređenje sr.Wikipedije, - krši Wiki pravila u cilju održavanja statusa kvo, - nekorektan je: priča jedno, radi drugo a misli treće, - zloupotrebljava ovlašćenja. Sve u svemu vreme mu je za abdikaciju.--Dusanbasic (talk) 19:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Heh, lies said by a user currently blocked on srwiki. --FiliP ██ 19:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I could agree with the word 'untrue', but 'lie' sounds too hard. Not only too hard, but it also might be incorrect, in case that the user believes all those allegations are true. Further diplomacy would lead us to the state of weak shock: 'I really do believe those allegations are untrue, and caused by the block you have on sr.wiki. I did not block you, so I would feel so free to assume you might be wanting to further damage sr.wiki by this vote and nothing more. Thanks.' 本 Mihajlo [ talk ] 18:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • To što je Dusanbasic blokiran je tvoja sramota, istorijat je malo duži. Tvoja prethodna rečenica je jeftin način za diskreditovanje neistomišljenika. Ti i tvoja kamarila dovodite do ratnog stanja na sr. wikipediji. Na sve pozitivne predloge idete đonom a ovde se vajkaš da nema predloga. Ovde vidim ima reizbora, zašto se kod kuće ne založiš za to, nego pravite nedodirljive, a pokušaje uvođenja reizbora blokirate. Pravite od Sr. Wikipedije cirkus. Zar ti glavnu reč i politiku na sr. wikipediji vodi "žena u crnom". Odgovori mi samo na jedno pitanje ako sve ovo ne znaš zašto ne znaš, a ako znaš zašto to činite.--Dusanbasic (talk) 07:34, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • It would be nice if you can explain what this has to do with his use of the steward tools, because this is not the place to discuss sr.wp problems as Dungodung doesn't act as a steward on that project. mickit 16:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Kad je čovek čestit on svaki posao može čestito da uradi, ako nije onda nastaju problemi. Ovo o čemu pišem, je moralna kategorija što verovatni ni ti, ni on, ni Bokica ne možete da shvatite jer vam to nije blisko. Svoju blokadu strpljivo podnosim pa kad se to završi sve vaše marifetluke ću izneti u javnost ako vas u međuvremenu čestiti korisnici ne počiste ili se sami međusobno ne "pojedete".--Dusanbasic (talk) 17:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep -- Hoo man (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep Béria Lima msg 23:02, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep --Ceradon (talk) 00:00, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Eptalon

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: de, en-4, fr-3
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo. Da ich erst letztes Jahr zum Steward gewählt wurde, ist dies meine erste „Bestätigung“. … (Statement oder Übersetzung nötig)

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Trijnstel, could you explain why you consider both of these cases to have been emergencies? The dewiki community did not share this judgement. Also the criticism wasn't so much that Eptalon did something that local Checkusers would have done as well, but the clueless way in which he/she tried to reign in in a very complex and high profile case whose eventual completion triggered wide media coverage in German media for weeks and months (this section alone lists 20 press articles).
And yes, we are all human and mistakes happen, but what is important is an ability to learn from them. Contrast this case, where I was happy to vote "support".
I don't question Eptalon's good intentions, but one of the most powerful user rights in Wikimedia projects should not be handed out based on AGF alone. There is a myriad of other ways to contribute which do not require the same level of diligence. Regards, HaeB 22:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]



Fr33kman

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en
  • Informationen zur Person: Dieser Benutzer hat seine Bestätigungsseite nicht angelegt. Diese Aussage wurde von Wikitanvir als Maßnahme der Wahlkommission erstellt.

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J.delanoy

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en, es-2
  • Informationen zur Person: Dass ich mein Universitätsstudium beendet und nach einer Arbeit gesucht habe, auch das reale Leben im Allgemeinen hat viel mehr meiner Zeit benötigt als in den vergangenen Jahren. Ich kann nicht sagen, wie 2012 laufen wird, aber ich denke, dass ich weiterhin dem Projekt als Steward nützen kann. Auf jeden Fall sind es nun viel mehr Stewards als letztes Jahr zur selben Zeit, und wenn viele Leute der Ansicht sein sollten, dass mein Aktivitätslevel zu niedrig sei, bin ich definitiv bereit zurückzutreten. J.delanoygabsadds 04:30, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Jafeluv

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: fi, en-4, fr-3, ru-2, de-2, sv-2
  • Informationen zur Person: Jafeluv möchte nicht bestätigt werden. Die Stewardrechte werden deshalb nach den Wiederwahlen entzogen.

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Jusjih

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: zh-hant, zh-hans-3, en-3, fr-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo! Seitdem ich Ende 2007 Steward geworden bin, habe ich Stewardanfragen bearbeitet; 2011 war ich weiterhin als Steward aktiv. Ich würde gern Wikimedia auch 2012 als Steward helfen und bin auf meiner Diskussionsseite und über E-Mail erreichbar. Danke für euren Rückhalt in der Vergangenheit; ich hoffe darauf, weiterhin Unterstützung zu erhalten.

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Jyothis

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en
  • Informationen zur Person: Ich war wegen Änderungen im Berufsleben verglichen mit der vorherigen Bestätigungsperiode auf einem moderaten Aktivitätslevel. Ich suche weiterhin den Chat auf und helfe bei Sofortanfragen aus, die dort auflaufen. Ich habe meine lokalen Adminrechte in malayischen Wikimediaprojekten zurückgegeben, weil ich nicht genügend Zeit dafür aufbringen konnte. Ich würde gerne die Gemeinschaft weiter als Steward unterstützen, wenn diese dem zustimmt.

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Laaknor

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: nb (= no), en-3, nn-2, sv-1, da-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Ich bin im letzten Jahr nicht so aktiv gewesen, wie ich es mir gewünscht hätte, aber ich bin normalerweise im Chat (IRC) 8 bis 10 Stunden am Tag online und helfe neuen Stewards, wenn sie Fragen haben. Würde weiterhin gerne helfen, wie auch immer ich dies tun kann.

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Leinad

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: pl, en-2
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo zusammen! In der ersten Hälfte von 2011 war ich aktiver, aber ich bin immer noch auf dem Laufenden, was Wikimedia-Angelegenheiten angeht (Vandalen, neue Funktionen bei MediaWiki, Themen auf den Mailinglisten, usw.). Ich würde gerne die Wikimedia-Gemeinschaft weiterhin als Steward unterstützen, wenn die Gemeinschaft dem zustimmt.

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M7

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en-3, it, de-1, es-1, fr-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Ich bin seit 2006 Steward und würde gerne diesen Service fortsetzen. Selbst wenn ich nicht sehr aktiv bin, verfolge ich die Mailingliste und die Logs auf Meta-Wiki und der RfP-Seite. Ich kann auch über meine Meta-Diskussionsseite erreicht werden und werde per E-Mail benachrichtigt, wenn sie geändert wird.

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Matanya

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en, he
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo, auch meine erste „Bestätigung“. Ich war dieses Jahr aktiv: (Links: Steward-Aktivität, Meta-Logs), hauptsächlich bei der Vandalismusbekämpfung und SRP-Anfragen. Eine schöne Grafik gibt es hier. Ich bin regelmäßig im Chat und Mitarbeiter beim CVN (einem Netzwerk zur Vandalismusbekämpfung). Ich habe vor, dieses Jahr aktiv zu bleiben, (wenn ihr mich noch um euch haben wollt). Fragen und Kommentare nehme ich gerne entgegen. schöne Grüße Matanya 23:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Sure. The enwiki incident was a poor misreading issue, as explained on my talk page. As for the OS in dewiki, it was while mass-OSing an excessive libel attack by edgar von-webren. I have opened many tabs and OSed one by one, without noting one of them was dewiki. I hope this is a good and clear reply,if you have any further questions I would be happy to answer. best Matanya 06:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that sounds reasonable (I assume it refers to both incidents on dewiki) and leads one to expect it won't happen again. Happy to Support Support now. Regards, HaeB 15:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please see my explanation on my talk page; here. best Matanya (talk) 21:09, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Keep Liangent 12:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Magister Mathematicae

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Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: es, en-4 (und kann einfache Texte in verschiedenen romanischen Sprachen lesen).
  • Informationen zur Person: Wie in jedem Jahr melde ich mich wieder, um euch um Rückmeldung zu meiner Stewardarbeit zu bitten. Ich fungiere seit vielen Jahren als Steward, und wenn die Gemeinschaft erwägt, dass ich meine Arbeit ordentlich durchgeführt habe, würde ich sie gerne fortsetzen.

    In diesem Jahr habe ich mich hauptsächlich um das Ausfindigmachen von Spambots und das Sperren von offensichtlichen Vandalen gekümmert, auch um andere Gebiete (hey ptwiki, würdet ihr bitte wieder Checkuser-Berechtigte bestimmen? ;)

    Wenn es mir gestattet ist, würde ich gern diesen knappen Raum nutzen, um den wundervollen Leuten zu danken, die unsere Projekte aufgebaut haben (erinnert euch, wir sind nicht nur Wikipedia) ;), und besonders auch denen, die mir durch dieses Jahr geholfen haben, als ich (und einige andere Benutzer) Ziel einer feigen Belästigungskampagne (coward harassment campaign) geworden bin, deren Ursprung außerhalb von Wikimedia lag und die dazu führte, dass ich einen großen Teil des Jahres abwesend war und meinem Heimatwiki dabei geholfen habe, mit dieser Störung/Belästigung umzugehen. An all diese wundervollen Leute, die Rückhalt geben: Ihr seid außergewöhnlich (amazing).

    Ich beteilige mich quer durch Wikimedia in verschiedenen Funktionen, und wie jedes Jahr lasse ich meine Diskussionsseiten 365 Tage lang offen (ebenso Wiki-Mail und die ganzen anderen Kommunikationswege), da Rückmeldungen zu meinen anderen Rollen auch immer willkommen sind. Und zum Bestätigungsthema: Ich danke euch im Voraus für alle Kommentare hier unten. Wenn es Unterstützungskommentare sind, weiß ich sie zu schätzen, und wenn nicht, schätze ich sie ebenso. Ich versichere euch, dass ich sie beachten werde, wie jedes Jahr, um meine Arbeit zu verbessern.

Comments about Magister Mathematicae

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-Usa Wikipedia como su facebook personal, Ejemplo 1, poniendo su foto en artículos de varios proyectos, Ejemplo 2, Ejemplo 3--AeroPsico 20:59, 10 February 2012 (UTC),[reply]
-Bloquea de forma desmedida, especialmente con los nuevos, y sin avisar ni informar de las políticas infringidas. Creo que este es un motivo por el que muchos usuarios nuevos, y no tan nuevos, dejan de editar en Wikipedia.--AeroPsico 11:00, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
-Admite tener una cuenta títere aquí, pero no especifica que cuenta es, violando la política de Wikipedia:Usuarios títeres, ya que entre otras cosas, podría participar en votaciones con dos cuentas.--AeroPsico 14:27, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think someone with such an important position in wikipedia (Steward) should not sabotage the donations to the foundation using your user page, threatening the existence of the project. "Magister. Why not donate to Wikipedia"[4] ¿A steward sabotaging Wikipedia?, it looks crazy
"I understand that Wikipedia is one of the 5 most visited pages on the Internet. I understand that maintenance costs are very high. I understand that hosting a site and cost $ 2 million. I do not understand is that $ 9 million earmarked for salaries. Magister. Why not donate to Wikipedia"
Honestly I found the mentioned private data by simply clicking a "history" button, if you care of your privacy you'd better ask for somerevdelete or oversight. --Vituzzu 20:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC) Thanks Vituzzu for your advice and directions. I've asked sysops several months ago to do this. But please also see my comment below, I'm not opposing this reelection only because of the treatment of information about my real name. Mar del Sur 15:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
These proxies are listed on several spamlist, do you have some evidence of some mistakes? NOP is a general policy, basically local Wikipedias couldn't allow proxy editing. --Vituzzu 20:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Clarification. A couple years ago, the "Beard" article on eswiki had no picture. So I added mine. Eventually it got replaced and I never protested, nor reverted nor discussed it. And it is now being argued as proof I should not be steward?Now, how is this related to steward issues, once again, I point that this is a movement to use steward confirmation as a mean to vent local grudges. Now what, should I be punished for making an encyclopedic video (that even got featured on main page) and added it on es:Parábola (matemáticas) just because I briefly show up on it? es:Magister Mathematicae 20:59, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And relating to the block of proxies, I talked about it on the local pump in order to proceed and it is not related to my steward tools but a merely local issue,the action was prompted after several weeks of banned trolls abusing proxies (since their main ips were already blocked) in order to vandalize and harass on articles and userpages. So I applied m:NOP to put temporary blocks on many IP proxies. es:Magister Mathematicae 20:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think a better beard might solve this matter of life and death. --Vituzzu 21:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It was eventually replaced. I merely added an image to an article that 2 years ago lacked one. Then someone thought replace it with a better one and I'm completely fine with it. That's my sin. es:Magister Mathematicae 21:09, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are not understanding my point and did not clarify anything, at least, in my eyes. The bottom line is not whether the picture is suitable for the articles, or wheter it is a good idea to make public private information of other users in the village pump, or calling "son of a bitch" to other users (who, to be honest, deserved that), but rather allowing yourself do edits that nobody else does. If everybody would behave like you es.wikipedia would be a jungle. As admin, checkuser, oversight and steward you should be an examplar user, and, in my opinion, you are far from that. Rather your style is -at least in es.wikipedia- as already said rude to others and haughty.
Regarding the proxies, of course I know NOP, and that is the reason why I suggested to him to coordinate something like that in meta instead of doing that in a local wikipedia. I am not aware of that there was any consensus anywhere.
Vituzzu, please, don´t ridicule my diff about the picture of the beard (there are other cases), I am talking serious. In fact I didn´t ever started this kind of discussion in meta, but in the last year I feel that Magister went far beyond the line and it needs a stop. Of course that all this applies mainly to a local Wikipedia, but I believe that if the job as admin in es.wikipedia is out of his depth, let alone the job as steward.
If you feel I abused my sysop tools on eswiki and I need to "be put a stop", there's a proper procedure to follow on eswiki in that regars. Meanwhile, I stand this is a grudge vote. es:Magister Mathematicae 23:16, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Grudge of what? Is this your way to presume good faith? You really seem not to know me a very little bit. If flags were the world to me I wouldn´t just give them up. About your suggestion to follow the proper procedure in eswiki, I will consider it. Anyhow, as I said, a steward job is a bigger number than sysop in any wiki and if I don´t consider that you cope with the latter, just cannot support you here. --Poco a poco 23:44, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Vituzzu, I would also like to use this opportunity to ask you to remove my sysop/bureacrat flags, as I asked 2 days ago. Keeping it in "hold" makes no sense anymore. I was a low profile (but one of the most actives) sysop user until now and will be a low profile user tomorrow, no big change. I am exactly missing a bit of that and of modesty in Magister. --Poco a poco 22:49, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done btw I didn't ridicule you diffs, as you can see I'm paying attention to all other accuses, but frankly the "beard case" doesn't seem relevant to me. --Vituzzu 23:20, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to add that drini and his obsession for notorioty made him include this image of the adorable teddydrini in an essay and God knows where else. --Billyrobshaw 05:05, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
...so what ? DarkoNeko 07:59, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep Laura Fiorucci 21:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC) Ha realizado un trabajo estupendo. Siempre confliable.[reply]
  • Keep Keep Rastrojo (D•ES) 11:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose --Maragm 13:54, 10 February 2012 (UTC) MM believes that everyone who is opposing his candidacy holds a grudge against him and that is not precisely the case. I don't doubt that he is useful in other wiki projects but in es.wiki his behavior is arrogant, disruptive, uncontrolled, he does not respect confidentiality, discloses private info about other users at his whim whenever he feels threatened, has no qualms about insulting others, complains about being harasssed in an external blog but my impression is that he is reaping what he has sowed. The atmosphere in es.wiki is not very pleasant now for many users and not everybody who has voted so far against him has been blocked or holds a personal grudge against him.[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose Wikisilki 15:02, 10 February 2012 (UTC) Recientemente ha divulgado información personal sobre una usuaria durante una denuncia en el TAB.[reply]
Of course you have some link, don't you? --Vituzzu 18:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And what does the abbreviation TAB mean? --Geitost diskusjon 19:07, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Here reveals the name of a user: Marjorie Apel/Mar del Sur [5] --Petruss 20:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Revealing? I thought she had her real name as her username not so long ago. Everyone can see it in the logs.--Jcaraballo 20:16, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, revealing. Mar del Sur pidió el cambio de nombre de usuario (y el borrado de alguna edición en que salía, si mal no recuerdo) hace más de un año, poco antes de su candidatura a bibliotecaria, precisamente para evitar que se la identificara por su nombre real. Magister sabía esto perfectamente y ha vuelto a sacar a la luz dicha información personal sin que tuviera relación con la denuncia. Saludos, Wikisilki 20:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It was necessary to mention the previous username to sustain a local case related to her sockpuppetry.
I merely pointed to username changes log, and she never asked to oversight it (since privacy violation is claimed here) SHould it be oversighted, I would not have linked to the public log showing the previous username. es:Magister Mathematicae 20:30, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is just false: there is no evidence at all of sockpuppetry, and certainly no need to mention his real name. Wikisilki 20:42, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is currently being discussed locally on wiki by other administrators. I merely linked a public log since I considered when making my statement it was relevant. I repeat should it had been oversighted, I would not have linked it. es:Magister Mathematicae 20:54, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please correct me if I'm wrong, Drini is told to have outed another user by posting a link to a public log? --Vituzzu 20:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"His real name"? Are you talking about Rapel? Is his real name Marjorie Apel? Nixón 21:23, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your statement, Magister, has absolutely no relation with her previous username, there was no need to point her real name again.
Yes, vituzzu, the log is public, but you have to know her previous username to find it, so he actually revealed this to all the users (and there's a lot) registered after the change, people that didn't knew (till now) what was her real name. This is graver since she is also suffering the same harassment from the same people Magister points below, something he knows well.
You know pretty well who are we talking about, so you are purposely misunderstanding the point, Nixón. Wikisilki 21:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC) Ps: I'm doing a real effort writing in english here, it's not polite to make fun on others limitations, Nixón.[reply]
If you need I can understand "plain" Spanish quite well. Well, you can see MM "lacked of grace" but this wasn't, definitely, a privacy violation. --Vituzzu 22:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I learn english by myself and obviously I'm not that good on writing. But I have no problem to do it (with a little help of online dictionaries). I just found Nixón's intervention disruptive and disrespectful.
Beyond the letter, the principle of the privacy policy is that you don't release personal information on an user if he/she doesn't want to. You can call this real-name-issue a "lack of grace"; as an active user in es:wiki and considering the background and development of the case (as the previous release of checkuser information of the same user outside the wiki), I see that differently and really grave. As I see it, it was a conscious and gratuitous offence deliberately done. That's my point, that's why I oppose. Wikisilki 15:41, 11 February 2012 (UTC) PS: Let me say that, besides this, I have Magister in high esteem as wikipedian and I sympathize with the situation of harassment that many wikipedians receive, and these are not empty words. I really do. But as Parmenides will say (if he was a rock star) rain is wet and sugar is sweet.[reply]
Retiro mi voto en contra. No puedo votarle a favor por los motivos que he expresado, pero esto se ha convertido en un espectáculo de acoso y derribo en el que no estoy dispuesto a participar. Saludos, Wikisilki (talk) 18:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course you have some link, don't you? --Vituzzu 18:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this is the link for the user comment [6] --Petruss 19:32, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, half a year harassment on and off wiki, from Petruss among others. Including harassment via private mail from this user. But of course I can't handle conflicts.
In any case, the opposes listed here as mostly a vent or revenge over local issues and not related to steward issues. I wont' further argue them now since I'm being accused of not being able to stay calmed on a conflict and engaging on rehashing discussions going on locally will only funnel the fire. I'll simply wait until confirmation closes to debunk the claims and present a long documented evidence for my case to the committee, showing the origin of the revenge votes and the proof of the ongoing campaign to manipulate this confirmation, and the missrepresentations here. Thank you. es:Magister Mathematicae 20:32, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
An user started using Wikipedia's email system to harass Magister Mathematicae and then he posted one of these email? Am I right? --Vituzzu 20:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, The case by the way was already sent and resolved by the OMbudsman Commitee and it was resolved that no misuse of privacy-related tools was done. I will forward the email from the OC to the election commitee when it asks me for it. es:Magister Mathematicae 20:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Afaik the was really a strong abuse: the abuse of Wikipedia's email system to send insults and the natural consequence is the block of the email function for the the abuser. Several users lost even their internet connections because of email abuses, emails are not a free-place for harassment. --Vituzzu 21:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will discuss the matter when the election committee asks us our feedback on the opposed. Meanwhile, let's not extend a thread with pointless comments. es:Magister Mathematicae 21:09, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It won't be necessary I'm investigating opposes as an ElectCom member :)
--Vituzzu 22:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(Un)fortunately I can understand Spanish and I can see deleted/suppressed revs: here there's the email you sent to MM and it was sent via Wikipedia but, actually, it's quite worse than you said. Can you give me a link about the outing MM made about you? You can answer in Spanish if you like. --Vituzzu 22:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hadn't seen this answer befor, sorry. The insults you see on that previous log where after he blocked me infinite, being an interested party, for calling him via mail sinvergüenza. The next insults I've said and always will that where because I went absolutely mad, and I've always said I'm sorry for having said them, but I was out of my mind. --Billyrobshaw 04:10, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • [7] Here he even reveals my facebook. This will be my last comment here. I don't care no more for wikipedia. Magis and other sysops made me hate the place, after 25000 edits, and dozens of FA and GA's.--Billyrobshaw 23:07, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Comment Maybe this blog with nearly 150.000 visits may help see the situation and how unhappy many spanish users are or where. --Billyrobshaw 23:11, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but attackblogs are not allowed since they are definitely canvassing and quoting them is itself a personal attack. I'm about to put it on the blacklist. --Vituzzu 23:20, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Comment Sorry, that wasn't my intention. Magister used to be very active in that type of blogs, until things turned around. Anyway, my intention was to show that a blog with 150.000 visits in about a year, explains a bit of the es-wiki situation, permanent blocks, and other things happened around Mr Drini and other totalitarian spanish sysops. --Billyrobshaw 23:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep --Taichi - (あ！) 23:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose a) Unnecessary disclosure of personal data of Billyrobshaw and Mar del Sur. There is a precedent that Mar del Sur did not like her name to be used anymore [8].
b) Furthermore, it seems Magister used his personal blog to continue the conflict with this user: [9] (!!!). Sorry. Jaontiveros 00:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In the last 24 hours, pl created 173 articles and es did 267. But certainly you're not implying that somehow I'm the sole cause that eswiki is declining. Wait. What does that linked page shows? Compare [10]. Facts, facts, facts. es:Magister Mathematicae 02:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your links do show that the Polish Wikipedia has more articles than the Spanish one. Thor8 also never said you were the only reason for the decline. Jafeluv (talk) 08:37, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep Magister is not perfect, but his huge contribution to the project clearly makes up for this faults (which I don't consider that terrible). Experienced, capable and very devoted. Wikipedia works better wiht him aboard --3coma14 05:56, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Comment 3coma14 y muchos otros usuarios y bibliotecarios de la wikipedia en español que ahora le votan, son todos pertenecientes al mismo grupo de desalmados que trata con desdén al resto de usuarios de la wikipedia y que provoca la salida, la expulsión de muchos excelentes usuarios de nuestra wikipedia. No solo eso, los nuevos usuarios salen espantados ante el trato de esta red clientelar. Aunque Magister está fuera de ella no deja de jugar un papel fundamental en sus relaciones de poder con esta red y el resto del bibliotecariado, llegando incluso a usar sus privilegios de checkuser para chantajear a otros usuarios. Ejemplo de Mar del Sur, perteneciente a esta red clientelar que tiene a la wikipedia en español en decadencia (por mucho que digas que no, no te lo crees ni tú Magister, muchos artículos destacados en portada son patéticos porque ha bajado el nivel de exigencia). Mar del Sur tenía una cuenta títere (Rapel) que Magister ocultó y usó en forma de chantaje para ganarse a alguien de esa red de indeseables (muchos penosos editores, prepotentes y con un claro grado de psicopatía). Así que Magister, ahí donde lo tienen, es un ser desalmado, que no le importa en absoluto nada wikipedia, salvo el poder que le confiere respecto a otros usuarios (para él "inferiores"). Por favor, no hagan que Meta se convierta en el nuevo juego de este psicópata. Thor8 12:15, 11 February 2012 (UTC) Inappropriate comment struck (Election Committee action) PeterSymonds (talk) 14:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I request this to be struck. Thor8 already had a chance to speak his mind, but he's using it now for personal attacks. es:Magister Mathematicae 14:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Decir la verdad siempre fue inapropiado en una dictadura. No te he atacado, simplemente te he descrito, ahí no cabe insulto o ataque. Thor8 14:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I request a block. Not being enough calling people psychopaths, now he start throwing dictatorship accusations, excusing himself on "making a description". es:Magister Mathematicae 15:28, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Comment
  • There is not such network or group of users to which 3coma14 or I myself would belong to, neither now nor has been in the past.
  • I have not been blackmailed by Magister on this issue. I don't know about other users being subject to pressure by him.
  • I don't have any sockpuppets nor meatpuppets. I do have a husband, who is a Wikipedia user. This information and the fact, that we share one IP address was given to Magister as a checkuser by me via e-mail, shortly after my husband registered at Wikipedia (April 02,2010).
  • I also asked Magister for directions on how to globally change my user name on September 06, 2010. He knows well, I had (and have) profesional reasons to do so.
  • Since the editor/owner of the blog mentioned by Magister above in his presentation (and many visitors editing comments there) have also raised suspicions against me and Rapel, and I have also been a victim of spam, apparently originating from this blog, where they also insisted in linking my nick with private data (profession, real name, family relationships), I insisted with other sysops on the need of removing the links of my previous signatures in Wikipedia Discussions. I really do not think it was necessary for Magister to refer to my real name again.
  • The theory that Rapel and I are the same person was released by Magister in another external blog, which currently doesn't exist any more, but many sysops of es:WP, other Wikipedians (over 140 members, and many of the here voting pro and contra) participated. He came up there saying that this where results obtained by him as checkuser. I thought it was an error (it is most irregular to discuss checkuser information in a external site whitout asking Rapel or me before) but just a mistake. He saids, he has forgotten my e-mails and I forgive him. But I see that he still defends this theory and he changed a Wikipedia policy in order to declare sockpuppets people because of the mere fact of being members of the same family. It was not possible to discuss calmly about this, because he refused to restore the previous consensus. He asked for me to be blocked and for the expulsion of Rapel and both sanctions were executed within a few minutes, without letting us speak out in our defense.
  • I'm clarifying these things just for the record. However, this is not my reason for voting against his reelection, but mainly the fact that I disagree with his way of resolving conflicts, and still more with the way he has handled problems arising with novice users, as well as his behaviour solving problems outside of Wikipedia.

I'm sorry for the extension Mar del Sur 14:49, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bla, bla, bla... The political machiche members and Magister always lying. Only for information: en:Psychopathy Thor8 15:03, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I request a block. I'm up for confirmation, and while I may disagree, I listen and respect all constructive criticism. However having an open disposition does not mean users have a free ticket to personal attacks and start calling psychopaths to others. An ElectCom member already struck such comments but user persists on his disruption. es:Magister Mathematicae 15:25, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Keep I have been a sysop on es-wiki for more than 6 years and know Magister work quite well. He is a reliable, fair sysop and steward with an excellent knowledge of policies. Es-wiki really needs a person like him since, as a massive community conflicts are our bread of every day. Anna 18:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Oppose. Considering his general actitude, lately it seemms to me that he is showing an upsetting arrogance. He doesn't take into consideration other users and doesn´t ask berofe taking hard measures. Magister is behaving as if he were over the rest of users. His lack of humility makes me oppose his confirmation in order to remind him that no user is essential. I honestly consider he should take a rest.--Wikiléptico 20:24, 11 February 2012 (UTC) Magister has dealt with a dire harassment situation by undesirable users and I would like to take this chance to condem their actitud and their coments in this very confirm section.[reply]
  • Comment Comment I find absolutely incredible the attitude of Spanish wikipedians that simply believe what this person says. I give him permission to reproduce the emails I sent him. There was no harassment by my behalf, because after my email calling him a SINVERGÚEnZa, which is exactly what he is, he blocked me infinite, being an interested part, without consultation or trying any formal repair. His arrogance is annoying, and you can't all believe what he says. The emails that I sent after where of pure impotence. I've always said that I'm sorry about that, but, in Spanish wikipedia, the sysops are over good and bad and take unilateral decisions without consultation. Anyone that knows me, knows that I was a good editor, only that I could not deal more with these attitudes and I was completely sick of the situation. For anyone that doesn know (and because they erase Userpages so that that carries on that way) I had 25000 editions, nearly 700 articles creates, 12 FA's and more than 50 GA's. All that doesn't mattter when egos of sysops like Magister come in play. --Billyrobshaw 20:59, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're posting in the wrong place. If you'd like your block to be reviewed due to your distinguished contribs, you know the proper procedure to be carried for eswiki sysops to deal with. es:Magister Mathematicae 02:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry? I really didn´t want to talk to you. Distinguished contribs? Mr. arrogant is back! --Billyrobshaw 02:51, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Again, you're then on the wrong page. This is the page for giving me feedback on my steward work. MOreover, in your offtopic story, you forget to present several key facts causing a misrepresentation: you were already blocked due to disruptive behaviour when, without me even talking to you or a previous interaction, you started harassing me via email out of the blue. You always seem to mention these little detail when you tell your story. Just some background here since you seem keen to forget details.
But again, this is completely unrelated to the point of this page, feel free to continue offtopic, however. es:Magister Mathematicae 20:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Disruptive behaviour? That's the idea you have. I sent that email because you are a sinvergüenza. What you have done whith editors like Rosymonterrey, Caskete, Elemaki, etc... has no name..
Facts are facts. You attacked me using wiki mail on august 26 while you were already blocked for 3 months precisely for attacking users. And it was certainly not your first block for that reason. So it's not truly accurate to say that you were arbitrarily banned because a whim of mine. You had a long long long trail of attacking users. As always in my case, I provide the evidence links. But.. you always omit that part when telling your side of the story. Now, why would you prefer publishing the details on a disruptive harassing blog that even got wikimedia-wide blacklisted instead of providing us here with your version of the story? (in re: ezarate). Post it here! es:Magister Mathematicae 05:02, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Moreover.. What did I do to Elemaki, mind you? Did I block him? Did I ban him? Perhaps you'd like to review your facts one more time. What did I do to Caskete, mind you? Did I block him? Did I ban him? Perhaps you'd like to review your facts one more time What did I do to Rosymonterrey, mind you? Did I block her? Did I ban her? Perhaps you'd like to review your facts one more time. You know, for example, Rosymonterrey was blocked (by some other sysop) since she openly admitted canvassing votes in order to rig a vote. Yet you come here damning me for doing somethign to her. Of course, if you're just looking for excuses in order to come here using the confirmation as a revenge venue, you don't need to be accurate with facts, do you?.
However, the sad thing is that some users are falling for your lies thinking I did someting to those users. I congratulate you on achieving your goals, even at expense of the truth.
Post here so I can openly debunk your falsehoods, instead of opaquely spreading misinformation. Post here! es:Magister Mathematicae 05:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Comment Harassment would be if it had carried on in time, but that's not the case. All those emails where sent in less than an hour, and I've never, ever sent him an email again. Just for the records. He's lying. ¿Could any sysop from here have a look at the history of his UserPage, where he has laughed of other users, used it to promote his blog, and talk againt the Foundation? He's (as always) used his sysop buttons to hide a lot of that. --Billyrobshaw 21:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

+Comment Comment And just for the records, I've sent User:Vituzzu a complete explanation of what's been happening in Spanish Wikipedia the last years. Anyone who might like a copy only has to ask me for it. Thanks for your time. --Billyrobshaw 21:17, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Billy, para dar transparencia a este procedimiento, puedes publicar en algún lugar visible para todos la carta que le enviaste a Vituzzu asi todos pueden analizar los hechos? Esteban 13:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A usted no le daría ni un beso en la mejilla. --Billyrobshaw 03:27, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I bet that letter is a great example of NPOV, without any bias at all. Please Billy now that you're off es:wiki you should try to avoid slandering around. Time to move on, kiddo.--Wikiléptico 18:01, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Comment Kiddo??? Well, I think you've answered by yourself. It's funny that precisely you, an active participant of an external blog where insults where an everyday issue, have something to say about me. I didn't exactly go insulting people on a normal basis, like you or other sysops that frequented that place. --Billyrobshaw (talk) 01:05, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Debunking falsehoods is called being conflictive, Angus. es:Magister Mathematicae 07:39, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Either the numerous complaints in this page are justified, or they are, as you repeat in comments, a way to take revenge on you for "local grudges". Either way, you cause a lot of people to hold grudges against you (be they justified or not). In my book, that's being conflictive. --Angus 08:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thank you for the clarification. Either the opposes are justified (and therefore it's my fault) or they are not justified (and then it's also my fault). es:Magister Mathematicae 14:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Let me put it in different words: either you do wrong, or you do right in an unnecessarily antagonizing way. --Angus 16:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Comment Sorry, "you shouldn't make generalisations like this" Mar del Sur 11:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Comment So, so many "banned" users - also trolls? Thompson.matthew 13:29, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
I understand it as "ignore the banned trolls" not "all opposes are banned trolls". That is: Ignore those trolling coming from users which are banned. It does not say "ignore the nonbanned trolls", "ignore the banned nontrolls" neither "ignore the nonbanned nontrolls". Now, why do people have so much trouble with some elementary set theory? There must be some psychological explanation I believe. es:Magister Mathematicae 14:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I really think those last two sentences didn't help at all. Thompson.matthew 14:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Mathematics is hard. And I think the explanation for it must come from the social sciences. es:Magister Mathematicae 14:42, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Mathematics is the human practice to think rigourously. I think things we do with numbers could also be explained psychologically. But I really very simply wanted to cite Darkoneko's words, which also are pertinent here. Mar del Sur 23:31, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback. I'd be even more thankful if you point me what part of the steward role I've been fulfilling for several years has caused so much conflict, or alternatively, what part of my steward work I've been not able to fulfill due to the purported conflictiveness of mine. es:Magister Mathematicae 16:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep Superzerocool 17:44, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Strong oppose I think we can assess by ourselves if it's a good think or not that MM continues to be a steward.
    I can't trust the user because of his misuse of private data. Not only he "points" to real names with no reason (Mar del Sur case), he reveals real names (Petruss case), email adresses and Facebook profiles (including the friends' names of the FB user in the process) of some users. In addition, when he was a member of the now defunct eswiki Arbcom, he unilaterally revealed the private internal discussions of the committee without saying a word to the other members about it (I can't provide a link, Vituzzu, but I'm sure MM would like to confirm this). By policy, he must agree with the committee to do such action. And no external site was harrasing him on those days.
    We know that MM likes to expose himself publicly, it's not hard to find his real name, images (almost using Commons as Flickr) and his academic degree, heck, he even put images of himself in the Wikipedia articles (he coudn't find a better image to illustrate a beard, huh?) and in a essay (protecting the page [11] and using the abusefilter tool [12] in order to preserve the image). But when it comes to respect other people's right to keep some stuff private, he repeatedly failed, creating unnecessary conflicts.
    He should also respect the reasons given here to oppose his confirmation, not saying what can and what can't we say here.
    Bottomlime, I can't trust him because of his misuse of private data which leads to unnecessary conflicts. And someone said he should ignore the trolls, well, he does the opposite. --Ferrari 1 19:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This (the arbcom leaks, not the image-drama) may be the only serious issue to be keep in consideration (currently there are no other stuffs related, at least by far, with steward activities) but there must be evidences.--Vituzzu (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'm just trying to establish that the ArbCom leaks and all the outings may be related to how MM behaves. These are not isolated episodes, but you're the ElectCom member and I'm not ;). BTW, so nice of you asking me for evidences few hours before the end of the voting period, I hope I'm not dealing with a deadline here. Still, I think that the easiest way is MM confirming this, but if he denies it or "plead the fifth", I'll see what I can do. For starters, the ArbCom used an external wiki site for their private discussions. For obvious reasons, only the members of that ArbCom term had knowledge of this. The site address was crc3.wikidot.com, you can check Internet Archive. So, at least one member had to leak it. Who? Well, here's an idea, we can ask them who did it. I may come back with more. I have to go deeper... --Ferrari 1 (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You know this aptitude to see plots everywhere is the worst visiting cart for you? As you can see I didn't take part at this discussion from the 10th to the 27th. Should I list all the plots I did during these days? By the way I found this which doesn't seem to be by far related to arbcom. Finally you are arguing MM was a member of the ArbCom, the ArbCom had a wiki and...then? --Vituzzu (talk) 21:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
While this seems to be related to. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Now you care about "aptitude", great. Why are you saying I see plots everywhere? I'm saying, I don't see right to doing this on the last day. I don't care what reasons you have to ask me for evidence today and not earlier, I'm just saying it's wrong, period. Also it's wrong the whole "you see plots everywhere", that was uncalled for. And you didn't answer, am I dealing with a 00:00 UTC deadline or not? Let's go to the argument, one more time. Step by step so all can get it. Eswiki ArbCom choosed to keep its discussions privately, the now defunct ArbCom policy allowed that. The only way to make them public is by agreement of the committee. For that, they used a wiki. No one knew about the existence of the wiki except the ArbCom members of that term, for an obvious reason, keep it private. One day, MM unilaterally revealed that wiki, with the purpose of exposing the private discussions. That was against the ArbCom policy because he didn't said a word to his fellows members. Any questions? I got one. Why MM isn't denying this? More evidence are coming. I hope. --Ferrari 1 (talk) 22:18, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So there was a leak from ArbCom, but how can you say it was MM? --Vituzzu (talk) 22:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on it, I didn't keep diffs. Some others ArbCom members complained about it and I'm trying to find those comments on eswiki, hopefully before Midnight UTC since you didn't tell me if it would helpful to provide this evidence after that deadline. Meanwhile, I found this other interesting "drama". Some days after the ArbCom leak, an eswiki sysop tried to built an external wiki for sysops' private discussions. MM also revealed that wiki address. This one wasn't against eswiki policy but still... like I said, I'm establishing a conduct.--Ferrari 1 (talk) 23:04, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I just stopped looking on eswiki, I coudn't find evidence, I'm sorry about that. I did find something outside wiki. A couple of quotes by ArbCom member (on those days) es:user:Góngora on a blog of current eswiki sysop es:user:Raystorm. I'll do my best translating one of the quotes, the original comments are here: 1 2. "Drini, without any doubt was out of line, because he made public the ArbCom wiki without knowledge or consent, of all those who, with him, were members of the mentioned committee".
Now you may ask for proof that those comments are legit, if they actually belongs to the eswiki user and former ArbCom member Góngora. Well, if you check out his blogger profile by clicking on his username on Raystorm blog, you would find some blogs listed, owned by Góngora. One of them is "Wikipedia semanal" (Wikipedia weekly), the same blog promoted a couple of years ago on his user page on eswiki. Also, the blog it's currenly promoted on Raystorm eswiki user page. --Ferrari 1 (talk) 23:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Gracias por el comentario. Aunque no puedo dejar de sentir que esto es simplemente una respuesta al hecho de que ayer cerré un hilo en el tablón de biblitoecarios de forma contraria a tus deseos. Quisiera pensar que no considerarás esta intervención mía (así como la respuesta en donde me disculpo por no resolver como querías y te explico que los problemas no son ocasionados sólo por un tipo de usuarios) como una muestra de falta de calma en situaciones de presión (otros bibliotecarios lo hubieran manejado de otra forma, supongo). es:Magister Mathematicae 16:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Pues si, si es por eso. Es lo que me ha movilizado a votar. Pero no porque has resuelto contra mis deseos sino porque lo has hecho al márgen de las políticas. Y no, no me refiero a esa última intervención tuya, sino a otras dónde por presiones del blog tan conocido llamas "hijos de puta" a usuarios cerrando puertas a todo tipo de vuelta atrás al conflicto, de tu parte.--Juan José Moral 16:44, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Una vez más gracias. Aunque me permito hacer una precisión: jamás he proclamado ser perfecto ni santo Job. Y me señalas un caso específico en el que perdí la paciencia tras varios meses de acoso continuado (acoso al que sigo sometido, por cierto), y sin embargo no me ves ahora perdiendo la calma. Y también estás sesgado (por un caso extremo) al no tomar en cuenta los cientos de ocasiones que durante varios años he intervenido y ayudado en situaciones conflictivas sin mayor problema. Pero supongo que es normal, el carácter humano es dar mucho más peso a una vez que se falle que a cientos de veces que se hizo el trabajo bien. Gracias por tu aportación.
Me acusas de corporativista y arbitrario. ¿No crees que si así fuera, simplemente hubiera borrado de forma directa esa página? Y por el contrario, te di mis opiniones y participé en un debate exponiendo las justificaciones de mi postura (que tienes todo el derecho de aceptar como inválidas, si no te agradan). Claro, si hubiera borrado la página me hubieras acusado de arbitrario, pero no haberla borrado no significa nada (sólo vale un lado de la moneda, entiendo entonces). ¿Y no estás de acuerdo también en que parte de los problemas también tiene su origen en usuarios que no son bibliotecarios? es:Magister Mathematicae 17:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose per MZaplotnik. --N KOziTalk 08:21, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep Yes, yes of course. You're the only one who dares debunking. Even if you're not renewed, we need you. Please, we know those machinations an schemes. Wikipedia is not conservative. Wikipedia is not liberal. Wikipedia is wikipedia. And we need people like you, even when you're worn out, you have a clear vision of what Wikimedia is indeed. Dodo was your friend. Mar Was your friend. But Wikimedia is more important than Dodo and Mar, Thor8, and Mar, and you have, in spite of the hard pressures,do your duty. I'm your fan, MM. We really need you, because you're far of extrange influences. A steward is a person who makes his duty. This hero is MM. MM is not perfect, of course, but he has taken the right decissions in the right moment. That's enogh for me.Gustavocarra (talk) 21:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Comment @Gustavocarra: I wasn't and I'm not a friend of anybody (neither an "enemy"). Would you please comment your vote objectively without mentioning me? Thanks. Mar del Sur (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment CommentI'm very Sorry Mar, but I think that this is the best place to talk about "the big question". And it's all about the 2 factions that have risen the last 2 years, and undoubtly and objectively, you belong to one of them, as it is a fact that Thor8 belongs to the opposite faction. What we are seeing here is that those mortal enemies are now allied against an uncomfortable foe. But the truth behind, the truth that MM is trying to bring to light is that those 2 factions are not so disparate and even have a common link, and, even more bizarre, they have another common link with a person that MM has banned globally for stalking the former ChapCom committee president. I know this link, and evidences have been shown to me.
It's time to realize that the es-wikipedia of factions is over. It's time to take this seriously as grown up people. It's time to forget and forgive, just to give a chance to this new wikipedia and the new users who never have heard about our fights. It's time to make people comfortable while editing, and it's time, I advice you MM, for not to be so rude and easy trigger. And that's all I have to say. Now, I'm very busy.Gustavocarra (talk) 17:12, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Would you be kind enough to keep your personal exchanges on your talk pages? I'd be very grateful if you can do so. And gustavo, please refrain to elaborate theories about "my intentions", since you don't seem to be making much sense. Please. es:Magister Mathematicae 04:48, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Comment I'm sorry, but telling that this poll is, except in some cases, faction-oriented, is far from being a personal question, it's just the naked truth. And no kindness or politeness are suposed to include my disclaiming to tell the truth. I'm not making any theory about your intentions, but only presenting my own one, based in personal contacts, emails and some strong clues as in some words told by me in private situations which have been repeated to me anonymously years before. And this person is the hidden link between "bloquéame", "la marrana" and amical. You tried to debunk and you got strong enemies in doing so, enemies who now look for retaliation.
I don't like your temper, I don't like the way in which you interactuate with others, and even I don't like the way in which you handle private information sometimes. But I can't shut up while the same people who now claim for privacy, two years ago hailed the exposing of personal data, I'm referring the Ray's case. And also I can't shut up anymore while people who are continuously exposing personal data in blogs now are blamig you for doing so, even when the "victim" belongs to the other faction. This all leaves you as the only one, the only guarantee who can balance all this madness, even when I disagree with you in other points. This is another debate.
Please, despoil yourself of that bad habit of telling me to hush, I'm grown up, more than you are. And start to listen. Gustavocarra (talk) 17:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose --Geitost diskusjon 21:58, 16 February 2012 (UTC) per XanaG and my comment on the talk page, there isn't any reason at all to post other people's e-mail addresses onwiki, I'm seeing no reason here and the addresses are still onwiki, I don't understand that at all. And I don't see any regrets about that, so I don't know, what will happen another time, when there will be any conflicts. Noone should do reveal personal information, but a person who does should never have checkuser or oversight rights.[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose ---seb- (talk) 20:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC) Corruption[reply]
  • Support Support Érico Júnior Wouters (talk) 16:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep has helped a lot and worked a lot for us all. --Zyephyrus (talk) 00:19, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose Technopat (talk) 21:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC) While the controversy around Magister does not stem from his duties as a steward, but is almost exclusively due to events over at the Spanish Wikipedia, it does show that he has lost much credibility and can no longer count on the consensus vote of the community. Although he has, undoubtedly, long been a stalwart of the Spanish Wikipedia, a reference for those of us who have been editing there for several years, his way of dealing with things there over the last few months suggests that he take a break and reflect on what is at the root of much of this. After reflecting long and hard on the matter, I have finally decided to vote against the confirmation of Magister as a steward.[reply]
As can be seen from the lack of consensus here, the prevailing atmosphere at the Spanish Wikipedia is extremely unpleasant, and is due, in part, to Magister having "surrounded" himself a praetorian guard of biblios (admins) who seem to spend much time and energy at the village pump, on the IRC and arbitrarily blocking other, longstanding and dedicated admins and wikipedians. The net result is that many of these admins, with the tacit and implicit support of Magister, rather than devoting time to supporting the constructive work of an encyclopedia, are making many long-standing wikipedians, including myself, consider throwing in the towel and leaving the project.
It is clear that Magister has been the victim of totally unacceptable and vicious attacks, but so have several other wikipedians, and when he requested a vote of confidence, he received many, mine included.
As the Spanish Wikipedia no longer has an arbitration committee which could, in theory, help to defuse many of the extremely nasty conflicts which arise on an almost daily basis, this kind of situation will be a recurring feature of the Spanish Wikipedia, and Magister, a central and influential figure, is clearly not helping to resolve matters.
  • Keep Keep All those who speak of "arrogance" are those who don't remember what we´re doing here. Magister's work speaks for itself. He doesn't handle personal information with secrecy? Com'on, if he didn't, a lot of people would be out of the proyect a long time ago (sic). Real names? FYI: Google it. Campaign VS Wikipedia? If I remember (And certainly i do) "many" do not feel represented by the foundation or the chapters that exist. The beard theme, Illustrate an article i guess it's called... Would someone had a problem if the user was a Victoria's Angel wearing and illustrating a thong? Why not talk about the harassment he suffered and he remained ahead? Why not mention that he always attend applications fast and simple? It's easier to destroy 'cuz he doesn't acted as we wanted. Saloca (talk) 00:24, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose Oppose Wikipedia is governed by dictators (Magister, Wikisilki, Eccemal/Shonen Bat -his co-worker-, Escarlati, Mar del Sur/Rapel -her husband-, Kordas...) and almost nobody does anything to prevent it. They intimidate, threaten, they impose, they beset... Magister is one of them. Mar del Sur and Wikisilki are clones of Magister, but in this case they are right. It is my duty to vote against. For the cleanup of wikipedia. --Belibaste (talk) 14:19, 24 February 2012
  • Keep Keep --LadyInGrey (talk) 03:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Comment It is not my intention to cast a vote, since, for starters, my account does not meet the requirements to do so. Nonetheless, I want to leave a comment here, with the intention of setting the record straight regarding (of course, from my POV) some of the discussions on what has been called "the Spanish drama". I have spent several days tying all the loose ends about this drama, since the evidence is scattered all over the internet, and only part of it can be found in the wikimedia projects. There is a key point that I believe the ElectCom should take into account before making a decision on the steward confirmation of Magister Mathematicae (MM): Magister Mathematicae does not look as being harassed. There is no such thing as harassment in this case. He may perceive it as harassment, and it is natural for him to want to see it that way, since he is undeniably receiving some e-blows outside wikipedia. But the situation is not "harassment", since it appears that before that, MM willingly -yes, willingly- conducted a series of actions to taunt, provoke and challenge a number of banned wikipedia users. These banned users were either banned directly by MM, or their banning was supported by MM. After the banning, MM began to make fun of them, mock them, he engaged in name-calling, and of course received payback for this. Who started the conflict is now irrelevant, as I will detail below.
Sources of what I am mentioning are MM's twitter account @combinatorica, and MM's personal blog eswiki.wordpress.com. MM wanted to draw attention on him, and he got it with this behavior. Otherwise, how come that MM has banned many users over the years, and there has never ocurred a conflict of this magnitude before? Only the users banned in the recent year got some "grudge against him" as he calls it. The answer is simple: this time around, MM's behavior was to engage in a post-ban mock of the banned, bragging about his own untouchability, and making fun of the impotence of the banned users to replicate. A non-exhaustive list of examples follows:
  • [13] Before this post in his blog, MM had been virtually unnoticed, at least in the antagonistic blog MM despised, the banned users were focusing their grudges mostly against other admins. MM threw himself in the arena with this post, and deepened his involvements in the commentaries. The post is practically inocuous, but in the comments to the post, MM himself merrily entered into the name-calling game: "los cerditos se enojaron, uuuuy" (traslation: "the little pigs got angry, oh my")
  • [14]. This nickname stuck among MM's friends in es-wikipedia, and now all of them call the banned users "the pigs", both outside and inside wikipedia
  • [15] resorting to name-calling again
  • [16] "Problem, Petruss?" - MM challenging one of his antagonists this time from his twitter account, using the well-known trolling expression. This twit was published two days after user Petruss was banned permanently from es-wikipedia
  • [17] translation: "its clearer and clearer that the piggies' boat is sinking"
  • [18] -MM created the hashtag #oinkoink to again taunt them
  • [19] - MM bragging about his position as an admin. RECAB is the procedure in which an admin is reconfirmed or removed in es-wikipedia. The twit says "Now I learned that there is a RECAB coming for me, MWAHAHAHAHA"
There are many other examples, some of them as screenshots uploaded even in the blog despised by MM (where MM was also a commentator before he decided to engage in this petty little war). Understandably enough, MM might have received many unpleasant emails and he has been for sure been publicly criticized and ridiculized outside wikipedia. His response? He decided to ignore the fact that he participated in starting the fire. He decided to bring back this war into wikipedia again, writing in the village pump of es-wikipedia on 11/26/11, this time around publicly calling S.O.B.'s to the ones he previously called pigs.
To finalize, I do not know who is right and who is wrong in this silly war waged in twitter and blogs; perhaps both sides are at fault. This is not really relevant to my comment and perspective. What is actually relevant, is that one of the parties involved is a wikimedia steward, checkuser and admin who chose not to simply ignore it and let it pass but chose instead to immaturely enter into the conflict. This individual, being what he is, has at his disposal the checkuser and admin tools attached to his wikimedia roles (whether he has used them for his fights or not is also irrelevant, the fact is that his position is supposedly above this type of conflicts. Before 2010, he had behaved maturely and role-modeling, but now he seems a completely different person who not only is part of this conflict, but also keeps bragging about his unbeatability, calls for a boycott on the donations to the foundation, and publicly makes fun of the executives at wikimedia). This kind of personality in a steward of wikimedia is concerning. We expect that a steward, checkuser and admin will behave with maturity, keep his temper, lead by example and be a role model of what wikimedia stands for. Regrettably what I gathered from reading all the drama, is that the individual with most capabilities in es-wikipedia, turned out to be exactly the opposite; and not because of alleged harassment, but because of his willingness to engage in puerile playground bullying. The saddest thing is that MM does not realize that he is as guilty as any of his antagonists for the escalation of this conflict. I cannot conceive that any other steward would behave in the same immature way. If anyone wants to taunt, provoke, and in sum, wage petty playground wars, ok, that is their decision, but should a wikimedia steward behave like that, for months? The ElectCom should decide on that.--Uponieft (talk) 17:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, do you think a clear "single-shot" account can be trusted? --Vituzzu (talk) 18:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It depends on our proficiency in logics. Being a single-shot account does not render the arguments invalid. You may choose to ignore them, but that does not make them less true, it will only be a huge flaw in the evaluation process. Anyways, if the process does not rely upon who is bringing the arguments, but the arguments themselves, you can follow all of the links and draw your own conclusions. --Uponieft (talk) 18:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(Actually it's quite easy to find your main account, without a checkuser) but it's true thesis shouldn't generally evaluated basing who is writing them only if there are strong evidences. Your evidences show an heavy level of conflict among MM and a certain (maybe many, I cannot evaluate) es.wiki's users, but, again, there's nothing related to stewards activities: if MM would be even undef. blocked on es.wiki he will go on being a stewards, unless there are misuse of stewards' tools. --Vituzzu (talk) 20:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry, but anyone can get confused after seeing the extreme fervor used by MM to try to dismiss negative votes [20], [21], or the vehement defense (again, non-steward related) that MM's friends are making [22], or even your interest expressed in poking all the details of non-steward related comments [like line 163. Believe me, this page's debates are far from being straightforward. Now to the point, since I don't want the ElectCom to miss it. First, after reading my long comment I hope that all attempts from MM to dismiss the negative votes arguing they are "accusing him out of harassment" are disregarded; these votes have the same value as others as there doesn't appear to have been any harassment. Second, my long intervention may not point to a clear violation of Stewardship guidelines. However, let us not be so naïve as to think that a user might be able to kill Jimbo and still get away with being a steward. It is of course expected that a user has to have a minimum trait of personal integrity, ethics, and reliability. The policy does not mention it expressly, but it doesn't need to. In my intervention, I attach links that demonstrate that MM is not reliable. Filter out my personal opinions and let the facts presented speak for themselves, that should be enough for drawing conclusions. I am also saying that the ElectCom should reflect on whether this is the type of person they want to have as wikimedia steward. That's it. --Uponieft (talk) 22:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Venía a decir lo mismo: ¿por qué no es confiable su testimonio? Si dice la verdad, qué tiene que ver que su cuenta tenga una sola edición? No sería mejor comprobar si lo que dice es cierto? Lo que no causa la menor confianza aquí es que se descalifique un argumento, solamente porque el usuario ha tenido que apelar a una nueva cuenta para expresarlo. Algo, por lo demás, esperable, en tanto que existe el temor razonable de que cuando uno se manifiesta en contra de injusticias y abusos de bibliotecarios, en la Wikipedia en Español pasa a ser el blanco de estos mismos abusos. Lamentablemente en diversas ocasiones el mismo Magister ha sido promotor, por obra o por omisión, de ese estado de cosas.
Yo, por mi parte, doy la cara y hago mía cada una de las palabras del anónimo. ¿Yo tampoco soy de confianza?
Algunos puntos para agregar. El hecho de que Magister se defienda con uñas y dientes ante cada voto o argumento en contra es en sí mismo un síntoma de su extravío. Se ha anquilosado y quiere conservar su cargo, como si este por sí mismo fuera deseable y un premio. Ha perdido el norte. Cualquier persona que mantuviera su centro, en su lugar habría renunciado no sólo a su cargo de Steward, sino al de Checkuser y el de Bibliotecario, y esto, sin esperar remociones forzosas. Aquí han venido no solo usuarios bloqueados y participantes de blogs que lo acosan: hemos venido muchos usuarios que no somos parte de la guerra que él mismo ha sostenido e incrementado con sus intervenciones. Esto debería haber sido suficiente para convencerlo de renunciar y que esto no es ni un acoso concertado externamente, ni todos somos sus enemigos. Él sí es parte de esa guerra, y tiene su derecho, pero lo que no debería haber hecho es tomar decisiones en las wikis que tengan como horizonte tales escaramuzas.
Se le haría un gran bien a MM si se le retira el permiso de Steward, ya que él no puede tomar la decisión por sí mismo por haber perdido el punto de referencia de su conducta en Wikipedia. No solo merece, necesita un buen descanso para replantearse su rol. --Juan José Moral (talk) 18:58, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please keep in mind votes without comments (especially sockpuppets' ones) are not even taken in consideration. --Vituzzu (talk) 18:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Comment Re your remark, Vituzzu, does that apply to Keep Keep and to Oppose Oppose votes or just to oppose votes? Maragm (talk) 18:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You know, the central idea of "confirmation" is "bringing argument against", basically the burden of proof belongs to opposes. --Vituzzu (talk) 20:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Keep Helpful, polite, useful QU TalkQu 19:44, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo Community! Zuerst einmal möchte ich mitteilen, dass ich der Benutzer bin, der früher als Dferg bekannt war [A. d. Ü.: TufkaD ;-)]. Ich habe mich vor Monaten für die Umbenennung entschieden und tat dies in fast allen Projekten, trotzdem sind einige Logs weiterhin gesplittet oder verweisen auf meinen vorherigen Nick/Benutzernamen. Dies ist meine zweite Teilnahme an den Stewardbestätigungen. In der 2011er-Periode habe ich weiterhin alle möglichen Anfragen in allen Gebieten bearbeitet (SWMT- und Antispam-Aktivitäten eingeschlossen), was in meinen Logs eingesehen werden kann. Diese Grafik (Anmerkung: manchmal unvollständig – es ist ein neues Tool) zeigt eine Übersicht über meine Arbeit im vergangenen Jahr. Ich bleibe weiterhin ein aktiver Teilnehmer auf unseren Mailinglisten stewards-l und checkuser-l, im Chat und in unserer OTRS-Warteschlange, in der uns oft Anfragen nach Hilfe und Ratschlägen erreichen; deshalb bin ich froh darüber, dass ich auch dort versuchen kann zu helfen. Mit mehr als 1.600 Stewardaktionen im letzten Jahr und mehr als 5.300 Stewardaktionen, seitdem ich Steward wurde, bin ich der zweitaktivste Steward im Team. Ich ziehe bescheiden in Erwägung, dass ich im vergangenen Jahr recht aktiv gewesen bin und dem Zweck gedient habe, für den ich vor zwei Jahren berufen worden bin. Wenn die Gemeinschaft zufrieden damit ist, würde ich gern eine weitere Periode als Steward fungieren. Kommentare zu meiner Arbeit als Steward sind sehr willkommen. Danke für die Lektüre. Schöne Grüße. —MarcoAurelio 19:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Mardetanha

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: az, fa, en
  • Informationen zur Person: Ich bin nicht so aktiv gewesen wie in (meinen) früheren Jahren, aber ich war einen Großteil des Jahres aktiv und habe meistens bei Chatanfragen geholfen (wo ich die meiste Zeit erreichbar bin). Zurzeit denke ich, dass ich die Zeit hätte, um für ein weiteres Jahr als Steward tätig zu sein. Mardetanha talk 09:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Mav

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en, es-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo zusammen! Ich bin Steward seit der Einführung der Stewards 2004 und möchte auch weiterhin helfen. Ich helfe hauptsächlich dabei, Bot- und Admin-Flags zu setzen und Löschungen in kleineren Wikis vorzunehmen.

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Melos

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo zusammen, ich war in meinem realen Leben etwas beschäftigt, aber ich habe versucht, aktiv genug zu bleiben. Wie im letzten Jahr würde ich gern weiterhin Vandalismus zurücksetzen und der Gemeinschaft als Steward helfen. Danke im Voraus für eure Aufmerksamkeit. :-) --Melos 17:17, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Mentifisto

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en, it-2
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo! Ich war hauptsächlich Anfang letzten Jahres aktiv, gleichwohl bin ich in letzter Zeit immer noch ‚passiv‘ da (ich behandele eher Hintergrundsachen und beantworte Anfragen, wenn niemand sonst da ist). Daneben beobachte ich den Strom der Benutzerkontenvereinigungen im IRC, typischerweise erledige ich SRG, SRP, VR, weniger häufig SRUC und SR/SUL. Insgesamt bin ich nicht in der Lage, objektiv zu bestimmen, ob meine Aktivität ausreichend war oder ob meine Handlungen angemessen waren – das überlasse ich euch zur Entscheidung! :) -- Mentifisto 02:42, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Mercy

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: cs, sk-2/3, en-3, de-1, fr-1, es-1, la-1, grc-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Mercy möchte nicht bestätigt werden. Die Stewardrechte werden deshalb nach den Stewardwahlen und -bestätigungen entzogen.

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Millosh

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Pathoschild

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PeterSymonds

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo zusammen. Ich war im letzten Jahr Steward und würde dies sehr gern fortsetzen. Ich war recht aktiv und habe Anfragen in allen Bereichen beantwortet. Auch bin ich regelmäßig für Notfälle im Chat erreichbar und habe einige solcher dringender Fälle bearbeitet.
    Ich kenne die Stewardrichtlinien gut und scheue mich nicht davor, in Notfällen zum Besten zu handeln und andere um Rat zu fragen, wo dies nötig ist. Ich hoffe, die Gemeinschaft ist zufrieden mit der Arbeit, die ich bisher getan habe. Meine Logs sprechen für sich selbst, aber wenn ihr Fragen habt, dann zögert bitte nicht zu fragen. Vielen Dank. PeterSymonds (talk) 00:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Quentinv57

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: fr-N, en-3, de-1, lb-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo! Dies ist meine erste Teilnahme an den Stewardbestätigungen (ich sollte in einem Jahr bestätigt werden, da ich in den letzten Wahlen gewählt worden bin, aber ich bevorzuge es, jetzt direkt eure Rückmeldungen zu erhalten). Während dieser Zeit habe ich wie versprochen Stewardanfragen onwiki bearbeitet und versucht, mein Bestes zu geben, um Benutzeranfragen im Chat zu beantworten. Aber in den letzten Monaten habe ich besonders daran gearbeitet, das Verfahren zu verbessern, mit dem Stewards Dauervandalen entdecken und ihre Schäden reparieren können. Ich bitte euch wirklich darum, meine Stewardaktionen zu überprüfen und mir mitzuteilen, wenn ihr irgendeinen Vorschlag habt, der mich zu einer Verbesserung meiner Stewardarbeit bringen kann. Danke.

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Ruslik0

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en-3, ru-N
  • Informationen zur Person: Die Zeit ist wirklich schnell vergangen – ich wurde vor weniger als einem Jahr Steward und nun läuft schon meine erste Bestätigung. Während meines ersten Jahres habe ich versucht, für die Wikimedia-Gemeinschaft nützlich zu sein, indem ich Benutzerrechtsänderungen durchgeführt, CU-Anfragen bearbeitet, Benutzern bei Kontenumbenennungen geholfen und mich manchmal bei Antivandalismus-/Antispamaktionen engagiert habe. Ich habe dabei noch nicht meinen Enthusiasmus für diese Rolle verloren und möchte gerne auch weiterhin als Steward fungieren. Ich hoffe, dass die Gemeinschaft mich dabei unterstützt. Danke schön.

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Shanel

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: en, fr-2
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo, ich möchte dieses Jahr nicht bestätigt werden. Meine Rechte werden nach den Stewardwahlen und -bestätigungen entfernt. Shanel 09:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Shizhao

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: zh, en-1, ru-1
  • Informationen zur Person: Hallo zusammen! Ich bin seit Ende 2005 Steward. Ich war im letzten Jahr aktiv, habe Anfragen bei den Stewardanfragen bearbeitet, offene Proxys überprüft und Crosswiki-Vandalismus gesperrt. Ich würde gern damit weitermachen, der Gemeinschaft der Wikimediaprojekte als Steward zu helfen. Danke für euren Rückhalt in der Vergangenheit.

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Wpedzich

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logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights | translate: translation help, statement

Deutsch:
  • Sprachen: pl, en-4, de-2
  • Informationen zur Person: Wie in meinem Statement bei der Wahl erwähnt, habe ich (bedauerlicherweise?) nicht so viel Zeit, die ich in Wikimediaprojekte stecken kann, wie ich es gerne hätte – Berufs-, Familien- und schulische Pflichten erlauben mir nicht immer, mir dessen bewusst zu sein, was ich tue (ok, lasst uns einfach sagen, dass ich nicht immer so sehr voller Energie bin, um tätig zu sein). Dennoch versuche ich, mich weiterhin hier herumzutreiben, biete jeden Ratschlag an, den ich geben kann, wenn ich die richtige Antwort weiß, und versuche in Notfällen zu reagieren, besonders wenn ich aufgefordert werde, meine Stewardpflicht zu tun, während ich im Chat bin. Wenn die Gemeinschaft meine eingeschränkte Verfügbarkeit und gelegentliche Brummigkeit akzeptiert, würde ich mich freuen, noch eine weitere Periode als Wikimedia-Steward zu fungieren. Wojciech Pędzich Talk 10:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Yeah of course, it's why I used the brackets ;-) . But I mean if we a have to give this tools, I prefer to transmit it to peoples who'll really use it than to peoples who'll sit on it. By the way I don't tell they are inactives in generals, I'm sure they take lot of time to take care of sysop tasks or just contribute to some projects. But if they prefer spend more time to their projects than took care of stewards tasks so maybe they shouldn't purchase the steward tools. It's my point of view and I express it on this confirm 2012 with a neutral. V!v£ l@ Rosière /Murmurer…/ 02:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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