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RFC about French WP's admin JPS68 abuses

Hello Trijnstel,

First, best wishes for 2013.

Following my previous message of 21 August 2012 I wish to inform you that my trials to give a chance to dialogue with JPS68 failed and that it leads to my blocking on 19 November, 2012. You may find all the details in the RFC I filled:
Harassement, intimidation and WP's rules infringements and abuse by French WP's administrator JPS68 and others.
Best regards, Yoav (talk) 09:29, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Yoav. Thanks for informing me. But again, the stewards as a group isn't a global arbcom. I can see the French Wikipedia does have a local arbitration committee. Try contacting them or the administrator who blocked you (Starus). Unfortunately I [or any of the other stewards] can't do anything for you I'm afraid. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 20:45, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Trijnstel, thanks for replying. The issue is absolutely not my blocking, neither a request for arbitration but a request to anyone who might have the legitimacy on behalf of WP to rule if the issues mentionned in the RFC are or aren't violations of WP's recommandations. The fact that those who are concerned by these issues are administrators make the need of a clear answer essential and indispensable. Btw, the French WP's arbitration committee is not operational and under decision-making discussion . Best regards, Yoav (talk) 09:44, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


Because page not been updated, so updated several times (I did not notice that the page is protected). Later, when continuously updated, I ignore protection issues. I'm really sorry. Now stop it--Shizhao (talk) 01:32, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I beg your pardon? It's understandable that you missed the protection notice, but since you know it now you should stop with it. Either ask the local admins to update/change the page or request local sysop rights, but I urgently ask you to stop right now since the local community clearly doesn't agree with your actions (and here). Trijnsteltalk 21:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
I hace stop it. --Shizhao (talk) 00:28, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

OTRS fiasco

Time passes and nothing happens... It seems as though the OTRS admins have decided to "circle the wagons" and pretend that the Indians do not exist. I really do find it very worrying that part of the organisation dedicated to ensuring good communication happens has decided not to communicate with the community over issues that concern us. I have no idea what to do next - thoughts welcome. Regards --Herby talk thyme 17:27, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Herby. I was about to poke you about this ... it's indeed strange that the admins say they'll discuss it (Tiptoety for example, while I have the evidence) and then remain silent for several days. Maybe we should add a note on Talk:OTRS/volunteering? Or is it an idea to email otrs-admins (if possible) and ask for a solution? Regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:52, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
FWIW, they're in discussion with me. I have twice suggested that I think it's inappropriate for OTRS admins to be blocking a community elected steward's access to tools necessary to do the job. I haven't heard back from them, but I just sent the most recent one this morning. I suspect the delay in responding to you is because they're responding to me. Philippe (WMF) (talk) 02:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. This is just ridiculous. And the newly elected stewards from the 2013 elections should be given the access automatically imho. Trijnsteltalk 20:44, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
And now it's suddenly ok to get solely access to the stewards queue, only if we agree with it...? Strange. Trijnsteltalk 20:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Consensus can change. :) In the past it wasn't okay to give for just that queue - now, it is. They adjusted a policy that was sub-optimal, and in the course of that, you got what you wanted. If I were you, I'd call it a win, declare victory, and leave the battlefield. :) Philippe (WMF) (talk) 04:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I will. And I'm happy that something's gonna change in the procedure as it seems. :) (thanks btw!) Trijnsteltalk 21:46, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

WMNL survey

Goodmorning! Could I bother you again concerning the sitenotice for the WMNL survey? Do I need to take any action to get it switched on or will this happen by itself? I also saw that on it is tagged for multiple languages. Not just NL? Thanks again! SRientjes (talk) 09:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi! You don't have to do anything; it's already switched on, see Special:CentralNotice. Nemo bis modified the campaign. It shows on all Dutch projects, but only to people living in Dutch-speaking countries (The Netherlands, Belgium, The Netherlands Antilles, The Caribbean Netherlands and Suriname) and only to logged-in users. Trijnsteltalk 21:46, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikispecies again

Dear Trijnstel,

I need your advise, because I'm now again blocked by species:User:Stho002. There is certainly a global problem in the project, which cannot be solved in WS itself (because other admins do nothing for that). Can you or other steward do something? If no, what can I do? Kuzia (talk) 20:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Update: so, I'm unblocked for the moment by species:User:Ark not without another battle. I'm pretty sure, that's unfortunately not the end of the story, but at least a positive precedent. Kuzia (talk) 23:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: OC

Hello, Trijnstel. You have new messages at Mdennis (WMF)'s talk page.
Message added 15:38, 4 February 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Thanks.   Replied overthere and I also gave back the CU rights of FloNight and Sir48 + the steward rights of Thogo. Regards, Trijnsteltalk 19:17, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Temporary admins

Hey Trijnstel, thanks for adding the admins to the temporary admin section of Meta:Administrators, I overlooked that. Thehelpfulone 20:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem! I also archived the request as you probably forgot that too. ;) With regards, Trijnsteltalk 20:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


Why is my IP blocked from editing articles? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 12:09, 11 February 2013‎ (UTC)

Because of cross-wiki vandalism by this open proxy, see the global block log. Trijnsteltalk 21:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


Hi. Just a note a posteriori: becoming an admin on is not really my thing, I've always enjoyed working within small wikis and globally. I act there just as patroller. I was asked to become one formerly, I refused though. I completely understand if sock issue may affect your vote, that's why I withdrew. Meta works without me around the same. Thanks for understanding. --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 13:45, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Frigotoni. I wondered about that (not being an admin on because the Italian Wikipedia is your homewiki and the one on which you have the most edits of all (> 15,000). I figured that the sockpuppet affaire was debit of that and while I certainly trust you with the global buttons, I feel it's important to be an admin on a bigger wiki to become one on meta too. But that's my personal opinion of course and I wouldn't have withdrawn just because of one vote ... ;) Anyway, thanks for helping cross-wiki! Regards, Trijnsteltalk 23:05, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Personal page

Ask unlock my personal page. -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 11:32, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

  Done, your user page is restored. Trijnsteltalk 13:09, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much. -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 13:33, 17 February 2013 (UTC)


[1]. I was actually just trying to fix that. I will fix it without you needing to revert it. πr2 (t • c) 21:05, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Great, because my change didn't fix it sadly. :( Hopefully you're able to fix it. Trijnsteltalk 21:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Working now? πr2 (t • c) 21:15, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes. Thank you!! Trijnsteltalk 21:20, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


Please remove protection here and here. regards -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 08:55, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Here please change the logo this. -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 09:53, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Дагиров Умар. ce:File:Wiki.png is the main logo of cewiki, thus can't be unprotected. Same for ce:Template:Коьрта агlона лакхен борз as it's used on the main page (Ruslik0 unprotected it, but personally I wouldn't have done it). ce:MediaWiki:Common.css is a MediaWiki page so therefore it's even technically impossible to unprotect it, + I don't see why I have to change the logo into ce:File:Wikipedi.png; the other file is good enough imho. Could you please explain to me why? With regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi. What is written on this logo can not read not one Chechen as we have in the schools used Cyrillic is not my personal decision, we discussed this with the active participant and have decided to change the logo as Nuno change word Википедийа yf Википеди. -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Could you please give me a link to the discussion about this with the other active user on cewiki? Trijnsteltalk 22:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Here we mainly discussed the mail. -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 23:48, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I'll look at this tomorrow. You'll hear from me soon. Trijnsteltalk 23:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much. -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 01:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


Hello, Trijnstel. You have new messages at Philippe (WMF)'s talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
  Resolved - username send, email not found, email forwarded again, found and gotcha! ;) Trijnsteltalk 11:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


I sent to you a mail. Thank you in advance for your answer. --Roy 13:49, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I was very busy yesterday, but I informed two other commons CUs about it. We're still discussing it; you'll hear from us soon. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 22:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Your discussions take more time than a papal conclave :) --Roy 06:59, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I know ... I've send a reminder to the others as the discussion became pretty silent. Thanks. :) Trijnsteltalk 17:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Maybe if you talk in english instead of ent-ish, we can finish first :) I will take one or two weeks of holidays from saturday 23. So if you plan to discuss over that day, I ask you to better forget my mail. Thanks in advance. --Roy 07:08, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
We are discussing it, but it's more complex then we thought it would be. Can't tell you more right now. Trijnsteltalk 21:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I'm back again. Some news? Thank you. --Roy 06:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

No... the CUs are apparantly pretty busy. I think I'll handle it this weekend. You'll hear from me. Trijnsteltalk 18:41, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikinews Dutch

How do I ask for project Requests for new languages/Wikinews Dutch be unlocked 23:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Just wait for a reply of the Language committee. I already added the page to Requests for new languages so now you should wait and see. :) Trijnsteltalk 23:29, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
ok thankyou 23:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
should I change the status from open to eligible 23:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
No, you shouldn't. Only members of the langcom are allowed to do that. Trijnsteltalk 23:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Should I go also to Talk:Language committee to ask them to Los unlocked the project 23:38, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

No, please don't. Just *wait*. Thanks. My native language is Dutch, so you may also speak in that language if you wish. Trijnsteltalk 23:40, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
no I doint speak Dutch I speak English - English is my native langue and ok I won't change it from open to eligible 23:45, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
please change it from open to eligible because it has a sub domain and a valid iso code 23:46, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
I am not in the langcom ... I thought that was clear by now, but apparantly it's not. Trijnsteltalk 00:00, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
oh ok 00:13, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
how long will it be until someone reply to it 11:38, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I suppose you are Google9999/Google6666? Well, you surely know your friend MF-Warburg then. He cares about marking projects as eligible. Regards, Vogone talk 15:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Fundraising translation feedback

Hey Trijnstel,

I wanted to ask for your help. As you may be aware we have been running banners on many language wikis. We have a lot of new content this year and I really want to conduct a thorough review of our translations. This is a combination of feedback from the community, readers, donors as well as those with professional translator experience. This will help us ensure the highest quality of translations used in our messaging.

To help us out with this I wonder if you would be willing to give us feedback for Dutch using This Link

Simply follow the simple instructions on that page and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page.

Many Thanks

Jseddon (WMF) (talk) 18:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

#wikimedia-privacy / #wikimedia-checkuser access request

Hi. I've been appointed to the enwiki Audit Subcommittee. I understand I'm supposed to request access to the #wikimedia-privacy and #wikimedia-checkuser IRC channels, and that you're one of the people who can help me with this. Could you, please? Thanks. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 04:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

No need to worry about it — already taken care of, by DerHexer. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 05:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Richwales. Sorry, was extremely busy yesterday. I fixed one tiny mistake, so you should now have access to both channels indeed. Good luck! Trijnsteltalk 09:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: your revert

I've started a discussion on Template talk:SWMT-Members#Rights. I don't see why you care whether or not my global groups are listed there. PiRSquared17 (talk) 22:55, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, but I prefer to be complete: either mention the global rights of *everyone* or don't mention those rights (or that specific person) at all. Trijnsteltalk 18:54, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


Please! delete the redirect to rename the Hacienda name Article [2] and [3]. Thank you! -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 22:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I guess it's already   Done today by ce:User:Дагиров Умар (yourself?, ah, you're an admin again, nvm). Trijnsteltalk 21:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


Hi Trijnstel. Should we use Steward request page as discussion page? There is already request for comment here ,therefore i moved comments there and it was an internal issue. We discussed, but Mirzali and Takabeg didnt really disscussed there. They just use political words to change the topic.--Gomada (talk) 09:50, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

(after ec) Maybe, but you requested the removal of the rights of Mirzali, thus it's not up to you to remove his (and someone else's) comment on SRP. Trijnsteltalk 09:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
i understand, but there was such a conflict before. Therefore, i thought it will not be good to start disscuss there. But as you want.--Gomada (talk) 10:11, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Block of

It wasn't warned... PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

He sure was. You said yourself on his user talk page: "It's OK to discuss the issue on cawiki, open an RfC, etc., just don't vandalize." And I repeatedly reverted his edits, with an explanation! Besides, it's only a 1-day block. He's still able to edit his user talk page and I never heard a thing of him. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 08:43, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

2001:41D0:0:0:0:0:0:0/40 global block

You have globally blocked the above range as open proxy. This is wrong. You have for example blocked bots form Wikimedai Poland toolserver. I have whitelisted it on but please remove this block globally and use narrower ranges if necessary. here is a list of our WMPL toolserv IP6 addresses:

  • inet netmask broadcast
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1007 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1020 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::2000 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1018 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1013 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1003 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1005 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::101e prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1017 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1010 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::100b prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::101a prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
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  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1021 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
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  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1011 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1012 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 fe80::230:48ff:febe:31d6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1019 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1016 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::1014 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::100c prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
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  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530:30:48ff:febe:31d6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
  • inet6 2001:41d0:2:7530::2010 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>

masti <dyskusja> 17:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Already asked steward Vituzzu for help but didn't get an answer as of today so I removed the block. See also ticket:2013053110004403. Trijnsteltalk 14:04, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
  • In the future, it should be possible to exempt a subrange from a global rangeblock, per bugzilla:40439. I'm guessing it was not worth doing 24 more rangeblocks to replace the single /40.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


Hi. I'm interested in applying for the sysop toolkit here since the tools would be helpful (I often tag pages for deletion and it's a bit frustrating having to ask someone else to add a link to the spam blacklist), but I need to know if there are other requirements beside those listed in the requests page and if I should wait more before requesting. I'm afraid there will be people opposing saying my activity here is too recent or that I'm not trusted. I'd like to know your opinion. Best regards, Defender (talk) 02:49, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Defender. Personally I think it's too soon. You're surely trused, but you don't have many deleted contribs & only 5 edits on Talk:Spam blacklist. Trijnsteltalk 16:32, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
My RFA is probably a good one to look at - some people require a lot of deleted contributions before they will support, but others will support solely based on trust. How much fall into each category is hard to tell in advance. --Rschen7754 17:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alorkalabahi

Seems our friend is back. --Rschen7754 07:55, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Trijnsteltalk 19:56, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Trijnstel/Archive/2013

Sorry but don't writting good in english, but "Unblock request". Espero haber escrito bien lo de atrás. Por favor puedes desbloquearme en commons. He aprendido la lección. He estado muy activo en and es.wikcionary. please review my consulta. Leitoxx (talk) 01:56, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Please see his block log on and hat collecting. LlamaAl (talk) 16:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
No. I won't unblock you and please stop harrassing me now otherwise I'll block you here too. @LlamaAl: don't worry, I won't do it. Trijnsteltalk 19:56, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Global IP block exempt for Ferbr1

Salut, merci beaucoup pour votre gestion, mais je ne peux pas editer dans Commons. Pouvez-vous resoudre ce probleme? Merci! Ferbr1 (talk) 07:48, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

(In English) Why can't you edit on Commons? What block message (+IP adress) do you get there? Trijnsteltalk 08:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Ce matin (j'habite a Espagne) je n'ai pas pu editer dans Commons. J'ai reçu un message du mediawiki avec information du blocage de l'ip. Je ne me souviens pas si je etais in train d'utiliser l'ip ou d'un autre semblable. De toute façon, le fait es que je n'ai pas pu editer. Ferbr1 (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok, but I need the block message in order to investigate it. If you experience this again, please email the block message to stewards Trijnsteltalk 19:02, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Le message est:

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

Stop hand nuvola.svg Your user name or IP address has been blocked. Trijnstel blocked from 14:48, 30 May 2013 to 14:48, 30 May 2014; the reason given was: Open proxy (more info) Information for blocked users

To request a review of your block, either:

  • email Trijnstel or another administrator (list). This option should work if a valid email address is specified in your account preferences, has been confirmed, and you are permitted to use it while blocked. Your current IP address is and the block ID is #128472. Please include this information in your query.
  • add {{unblock|your reason for requesting an unblock here}} to your user talk page. Blocked users may edit their own user talk page, unless specifically disallowed from doing so, e.g., for incivility. If you are not logged in as a registered user, use the talk page for your IP address.

If the block reason seems irrelevant to your edits, you may have been affected by a software feature known as the autoblock. Contact an administrator (as above), who will attempt to remove the autoblock. If unsuccessful, you may have to wait 24 hours for the autoblock to expire.

Merci. Ferbr1 (talk) 11:16, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I changed the block to anon-only so you should now be able to edit from that IP address on Commons. Trijnsteltalk 12:56, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Salut, en ce moment j'ai essayé d'editer dans Commons et je n'ai pas pus y editer:

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

Stop hand nuvola.svg Your user name or IP address has been blocked. Trijnstel blocked from 14:48, 30 May 2013 to 14:48, 30 May 2014; the reason given was: Open proxy (more info) Information for blocked users

To request a review of your block, either:

  • email Trijnstel or another administrator (list). This option should work if a valid email address is specified in your account preferences, has been confirmed, and you are permitted to use it while blocked. Your current IP address is and the block ID is #128473. Please include this information in your query.
  • add {{unblock|your reason for requesting an unblock here}} to your user talk page. Blocked users may edit their own user talk page, unless specifically disallowed from doing so, e.g., for incivility. If you are not logged in as a registered user, use the talk page for your IP address.

If the block reason seems irrelevant to your edits, you may have been affected by a software feature known as the autoblock. Contact an administrator (as above), who will attempt to remove the autoblock. If unsuccessful, you may have to wait 24 hours for the autoblock to expire.

En fin, peut-être le coupable est lediablo cojuelo... Ferbr1 (talk) 11:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice there was also a range block on Commons. That's anon-only now too, so you shouldn't face any problems now anymore. Trijnsteltalk 11:24, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Merci! Ferbr1 (talk) 19:47, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

One does not simply rollback a staffer.

! PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I didn't notice he's a staffer, but he removed half of the discussion which is simply not okay either. And you could say this a bit nicer too (AGF!). Trijnsteltalk 18:10, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, my comment ("!") obviously wasn't supposed to be completely serious. PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
If you put ":P" behind it, I would have immediately believed that. But since this, I have the feeling you're still angry at me. Trijnsteltalk 18:19, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

What rule did I violate?

Hi Trinjstel, when I'm going to write a message, I was instructed to "Changing the settings to "no proxy" should immediately lift the block" by the notice. It still doesn't work (I'm still blocked). Please let me know if I happened to violate the rules or something like that. Thanks. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Griff88 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 30 June 2013‎ (UTC)

Hi Griff88. Could you please give me the blocked IP address you got/give me the exact block message? Then I'll investigate it. Thanks. Regards, Trijnsteltalk 11:08, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
My IP address Although now I'm not blocked anymore, but I still want to know why I'm blocked. Thanks. Griff88 (talk) 05:52, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, your current IP isn't blocked. If you experience this again, please give me the exact block message (with IP). Right now I can't tell, but it was probably a proxy (mobile IP) block. Trijnsteltalk 11:59, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

he.checkuser Re-election


Plz have a look at he:ויקיפדיה:בודק/בחירת בודקים - 18א and confirm that everything is OK now. Neukoln (talk) 10:50, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Neukoln. Looks good! I'll give Damzow the other accesses needed for his job. Thanks for the help. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 11:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


A pointer, because we talked about this earlier. Have a nice day, --Erzbischof (talk) 07:29, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Erzbischof. What a pleasant surprise and a nice report. Thank you for informing me about this. :) With regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

cancelling the IP block complain

it is very hard to get to the Wikipedia from mainland China as you know, and this is actually the first time, so please unblock. Whyang10 (talk) 07:01, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Whyang10. You may request a global IP block exempt on this request page. Don't forget to mention the block notice and/or the reason of why you need it (in this case clearly the Great Firewall). Also, Chinese user Bencmq is both a local admin and a steward - maybe he might be of use (maybe a local exempt instead of global?). Trijnsteltalk 20:09, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

IP block: (14 July 2013)

Hi, could you let me know your reasons for this block please? It hasn't been explained on my user page. Thanks. Vivj2012 (talk) 16:17, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Vivj2012. is part of the range, which I globally blocked for being an open proxy/webhosting. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 20:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi! The above editor is actually the master account of a large farm of sockpuppets/meatpuppets that represents, a large paid editing firm that has been editing the English Wikipedia for years with at least 1000 accounts. The SPI page is at w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Morning277, and my notes on the crosswiki editing are at User:Rschen7754/Reports/Morning277.

I am mentioning this because it appears that there are local edits on your home wiki, the Dutch Wikipedia, by either CU-confirmed or behaviorally confirmed accounts, that should be reviewed:

I have been told by the English Wikipedia CheckUsers that doing a CU has not always provided useful information, but if choose to do so and find any related accounts, we would appreciate the information. If you need CU data, User:WilliamH and User:Tiptoety have been working the cases at the English Wikipedia and at Commons, respectively.


Rschen7754 20:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rschen7754. While the Dutch Wikipedia is my homewiki, I'm not a local CU. ;) See nl:Special:ListUsers/checkuser. I'll send an email to them. Trijnsteltalk 20:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Handled. Akoopal (talk) 23:05, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Editor @

Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 12:13, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Avocato. That might be indeed useful as I tend to add quite a lot images from time to time. :) With regards, Trijnsteltalk 13:54, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Why I am blocked?

{{unblock|I can't edit or upload files if I am blocked}}

Hi, Please unblock me. I am editor. If you block me again I will block you.

Unblock me! The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 16:59, 6 September 2013‎ (UTC)

Nope, won't happen. You were blocked and locked for abusing multiple accounts by INeverCry and myself (and probably more people). Trijnsteltalk 19:36, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Please unblock me

Hi Trijnstel, I just tried to upload a soundfile to Commons, when this message showed up:

Your IP address has been blocked on all wikis.

The block was made by Trijnstel ( The reason given is Open proxy.

   Start of block: 21:05, 31 October 2012
   Expiry of block: 21:05, 31 October 2014 

You can contact Trijnstel to discuss the block. You cannot use the "Email this user" feature unless a valid email address is specified in your account preferences and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is Please include all above details in any queries you make.

As you can see on my Upload-list on Commons, I have never uploaded any copyrighted material and there have never been any problems with me. So I'am asking you to unblock me. Sincerely, --YodelingCowboy (talk) 10:55, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi YodelingCowboy. You may request a local or global IP block exempt to circumvent the open proxy block. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 19:36, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll do that. --YodelingCowboy (talk) 10:12, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Question About Cyrusbot


Hi Trijnstel, i am not sure if here is right place for this question. Since a few days i am getting "insufficien right to edit ... page" for my [| Cyrusbot] in Kurdish wiktionary. I am getting the same error for my real user [| Cyrus the virus] while doing bot actions. Is there any restriction or blocking for my bot actions. If so, if you can, could you please take it back. Thanks. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 17:56, 11 September 2013‎ (UTC)

Hi Cyrus the virus/! Hmm, not sure, but it could be that you're facing a global block. If possible, can you give me the block message you're getting? If you can't, well, we could perform a CU but that's against the global CU policy I'm afraid. You can request a global IP block exempt on SRGP. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 21:58, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
I am using DotNETWiki wrapper and getting "Insufficient rights to edit page [page_name]." exception. I tried from another computer, namely another IP, but no chance, i am getting same exception. It seems to not to be an IP blocking. How can perform CU user, i did nearly 200.000 edits with same bot there was no any restriction upt to now. Thanks. Cyrus the virus/-- 05:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, but "insufficient rights" sounds like you are using an IP address that's globally blocked (perhaps an open proxy). Trijnsteltalk 10:14, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, but, as I told, i tried from another computer, another IP but I got same exception. What do you suggest to do Cyrus the virus/-- 16:56, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
A colleague steward suggested it might be because of blacklists, but the two local lists are both empty... (maybe global ones?) Trijnsteltalk 18:24, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Which leaves two options: a block (which is still possible) or a page protection. Try editing another page maybe? Trijnsteltalk 18:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
No, I tried with so many pages, but it is not possible to do any changes.Cyrus the virus/ -- 19:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Then only one option is a left: a block (as I said). I guess you use a different IP address when you're doing bot actions (with AWB?). You may request a global IP block exemption on SRGP (and maybe local too, but I don't think that's needed). I don't see any other solution. Trijnsteltalk 19:54, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I will try there. Thanks. Cyrus the virus/ -- 21:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

See for the sequel of this discussion the request on SRGP. Trijnsteltalk 22:21, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


Hi. Please do the report [4] [5] Before ibid. thank you -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

  Done, both pages are created now. Trijnsteltalk 18:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! regards -- Дагиров Умар (talk) 12:12, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Categories

I just thought to merge that category into the "Wikimedia" category. I trust you on this, if you think that cat should not be deleted or that we'll have to wait, I'm ok. --Sannita - not just another sysop 12:25, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Not sure. I'll leave it open for someone else (or judge over a few days). Trijnsteltalk 22:22, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Non attached accounts

Dag Trijnstel, ik zag dat je een en ander bewerkstelligde voor de unatached account van Gebruiker:Natuur12 op de fr.wikipedia. Denk je dat het mogelijk is dit ook voor mij de fixen? Ik heb er nl één op de ja.wikipedia, en één op de or.wikipedia. Nogal lastig bij het heen en weer huppen   Lotje (talk) 13:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Ha Lotje. Jij ziet ook alles!   Leuk om je zo af en toe tegen te komen. Dat account op jawiki was aangemaakt in 2009 (dus nog voor jij je account aanmaakte in 2010) en is dus vermoedelijk van iemand anders. Het account op orwiki was in 2011 wel automatisch aangemaakt; zo'n zelfde foutmelding als Natuur12 had dus. Ik heb ze allebei   weghernoemd (jawiki crats doen het niet meer en orwiki heeft geen crats). Nu kun je je daar ook weer registreren. Met vriendelijke groet, Trijnsteltalk 13:54, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Wat lief van je... bedankt. Ik wil hier toch even rechtzetten dat de community besliste het account "Lotje" aan mij toe te kennen. Ik had nog nooit de gelegenheid mij voor deze leuke naam te bedanken, wat ik bij deze hier doe.   Lotje (talk) 14:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Ik vertegenwoordig niet de volledige gemeenschap en jij hebt deze naam echt zelf verzonnen toen hij nog vrij was hoor. Toch bedankt. ;) Trijnsteltalk 16:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Mag ik jou hieromtrent een email sturen? Lotje (talk) 04:56, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Natuurlijk mag dat. Je mag me altijd mailen. Trijnsteltalk 08:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


Dag Trijnstel, wat zou je ervan denken om de verwijzing naar {{User SWMT}} op je userpage te zetten? Lotje (talk) 14:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Och, hoeft niet hoor. Ik doe vrij veel en heb daar toch geen plek voor op mijn gebruikerspagina. Trijnsteltalk 16:08, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


Congratulations! PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Trijnsteltalk 20:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Ik heb je CU-aanmelding helemaal gemist. Anders had ik uiteraard mijn steun betuigd. Proficiat! Mathonius (talk) 21:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Haha, geen probleem en dank voor de iets verlate steun! ;) Trijnsteltalk 22:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Croatian wikipedia

The following discussion is on hold.

Maybe you know meta discussion about croatian wikipedia (hr.wikipedia) and maybe not (Requests for comment/2013 issues on Croatian Wikipedia).

Short version is:

After 4 days of voting for checkuser investigation of croatian wikipedia users results is 32 for investigation and 13 votes against.

Because administrators and users from croatian wikipedia are saying that this is conspiracy of users from sh.wikipedia I have "removed" votes from users with home croatian or sr wikipedia. After removing that votes voting results is 24 for investigation and only 1 against.

Question is: Will you be willing to do look hr.wikipedia administrators today or when voting will end (there is no date) or never ?--Rjecina2 (talk) 01:48, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rjecina2. I've seen the RFC -- what other discussion about hrwiki do you mean? I haven't read the full RFC but can you summarize it for me? What exactly is happening on hrwiki? What is the problem? Why is a CU necessary in the first place? I won't CU just based on numbers of votes; I'll will only look at the facts. Trijnsteltalk 14:41, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Short version is:
  • 1) Croatian minister of education has warned people to stop using croatian wikipedia because of fascism glorification.
  • 2) 2 croatian newspapers (3rd must popular and oldest) has attacked croatian wikipedia and Jimbo Wales has declared for newspapers that bosnian, croatian and serbian wikipedia need to be united in one wikipedia (sh wikipedia ?)
  • 3) Now ulmost 20 days after beginning of this scandal nothing has changed. People are talking and talking and talking, but....
  • 4) Wikipedia administrators on croatian wikipedia has many time banned people for editing because of "propaganda" writing.
  • 5) Like you can see there has been voting for checkuser investigation (but it is good question if this is enough)
6) Simple speaking group of editors has taken control of one wikipedia project for promoting fringe theory:"Fascism is good"
You can read more about this in newspaper articles on english language, english language (again) and Jimbo Wales with help of google translate. You are having about that even on english wikipedia w:Croatian_Wikipedia#Controversies.
About checkuser investigation you will receive email.--Rjecina2 (talk) 22:23, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
and you are having 3 and half years old meta decision related with sockpuppetry:
"It has been decided that stewards want to facilitate your polls on adminship by providing a Special:SecurePoll for hrwikipedia" [6]
which has not been enforced and which can give "legal right" to for today checkuser investigation--Rjecina2 (talk) 06:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Just a quick note that I haven't forgotten you and your comments. I'll answer as soon as possible. Trijnsteltalk 10:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Still   On hold and I understood it has even gotten worse... Trijnsteltalk 22:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
And the story continues: SN#Edit warring over hr.wikipedia sitenotice. Trijnsteltalk 21:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
It looks like it'll never stop: SN#CheckUser controversy on croatian wikipedia. Trijnsteltalk 23:19, 28 November 2013 (UTC) --- discussion closed by Andrew 13:31, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Are stewards planning on doing anything? It seems that there is some disagreement as to whether they can... --Rschen7754 01:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
I only know that something needs to be done. And yes, there's some disagreement; someone suggested the board should step in iirc. Trijnsteltalk 23:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
It looks like this removal request of Dtom is also related to all controversy, judged by his user page. Trijnsteltalk 15:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
  Forwarded to the board and the staff. I assume actions will be taken asap. Trijnsteltalk 13:33, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jude Enemy

Hopefully this will be sent to on checkuser-l by the enwiki CU, but wanted to make you aware of this as this editor appears to have created an article on nlwiki (see d:Q14946971 for the connection). --Rschen7754 01:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rschen7754. Thanks for notifying me. I see the CU has been performed, but no email on checkuser-l about this up til now. In the mean time I speedy deleted the article on nlwiki and asked for deletion of the item on wikidata. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 14:48, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, looking at the results, seems to be enwiki only accounts, so I don't know if that is worth sending there anyway. Thanks! --Rschen7754 19:06, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

please clarify

I received a message from you about a page being removed for being off-topic. I am not sure why or what page. Here is some recent activity of mine. Please explain. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 18:43, 30 September 2013‎ (UTC)


Your comment on Daytripperdiva's talk page was somewhat unclear. She told me by email that you deleted the content of her user page. That seems like a bit of a harsh welcome to a new contributor. Some more process and teaching would almost certainly help. As it is, I'm not sure what was off-topic. What's considered on-topic for a user page, anyway? Arided (talk) 18:53, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I meant indeed User:Daytripperdiva. It looked like a curriculum vitae or something like that and that's not where user pages are meant for. Trijnsteltalk 21:16, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Multiple usernames into a global username


Hi, I need your guidance on merging multiple usernames. I was not aware of global accounts for Wikimedia projects and I was created 3 accounts for the Wikimedia projects as follows:

When I visited other Wikimedia projects, the username automatically created usernames. Therefore, I would like to merge all three usernames into one global username. --Anton017 (talk) 06:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anton. It's technically not possible to merge user accounts, unfortunately. You can, however, request a rename for the accounts with the most edits to a new name and merge them into one. This should be a real new name, with no other accounts (you may check via sulutil:). I made a list for you with the largest accounts you have, + the number of edits (see below).
Username (@wiki) Registered Number of edits User rights SUL
Anton (@tawiki) 2011-11-15 11520 sysop sulutil:Anton
Anton 17 (@commons) 2011-11-18 869 - sulutil:Anton 17
Anton017 (@enwiki) 2011-11-16 572 - sulutil:Anton017
Anton017 (@wikidata) 2013-02-26 224 -
You can find the various request pages on Index of pages where renaming can be requested. If you need further help, do ask please. Regards, Trijnsteltalk 09:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply. Can I request for merging after real new name changes on Index of pages where renaming can be requested or should I approach Wikimedia? --Anton017 (talk) 08:28, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't really get what you mean. You may request a rename on the various request pages (which can be found here). When the accounts are renamed to one name, you can merge them all together via Special:MergeAccount on the wiki where you are active. Fore example, if Anton@tawiki and Anton 17@commons are renamed, you can merge them together via the special page mergeaccount on tawiki or commons. If another one is renamed too, you can add those to the other two as well. Maybe the documention on Help:Unified login helps you a bit. Good luck! With regards, Trijnsteltalk 20:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I was wondering that how to merge renamed usernames, and your answer gave me the guidance. Rename requests are on progress. Have a nice day! --Anton017 (talk) 06:36, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Unblock User:

Hi Trijnstel

Could you unblock User talk: (I am in User talk: because that IP address is globally blocked for one year. Plaese? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 17:44, 18 October 2013‎ (UTC)

Won't do that. See here for my previous answer. Trijnsteltalk 20:40, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Global IP range block

Hallo Trijnstel. Ik hoop dat je het niet erg vindt dat ik hier in het Nederlands reageer. :) Onlangs zijn mijn scripts opgehouden met functioneren omdat ik in het Pywikibot framework steeds een "wikimedia-globalblocking-ipblocked" foutmelding kreeg. Ik ben dat gaan onderzoeken en kwam er achter dat je een IP range geblokeert hebt, en dat het IP adres van mijn server hier toevallig tussen ligt. Is het mogelijk om het bereik wat te verfijnen, zodat mijn IP adres er buiten valt? Alvast bedankt. PS. Ik wil het IP adres hier niet publiekelijk bekend maken, vanwege privacy redenen. -- Edinwiki (talk) 22:04, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Hoi Edinwiki! Grappig, ik kende jouw naam niet, dus leuk om weer een Nederlander te treffen op de wiki. :) Wat betreft die foutmelding/blokkademelding: het is helaas niet mogelijk om de range verder te verfijnen. Maar ik kan jouw bot (of hoofdaccount, hangt er vanaf bij welk account je die melding krijgt) wel een globaal IP-block-exempt geven, zodat je gewoon kunt blijven bewerken. Als je daar in geïnteresseerd bent, geef dan alsjeblieft even aan met welk account je die melding krijgt en ik zal je er één geven. Mocht je op maar één wiki bewerken, dan is het beter om een lokaal exempt aan te vragen bij de mods daar. Met vriendelijke groet, Trijnsteltalk 22:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Bedankt voor je reactie! Ik nam zelf al aan dat je een Nederlander was vanwege je naam natuurlijk. :) Ik werk met de bot account EdinBot (op meerdere wikis), dus als daar een exempt op gezet kan worden dan zou dat geweldig zijn. :) Alvast bedankt! Groeten, Edinwiki (talk) 07:28, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
  Done, nu zou je geen foutmelding meer moeten krijgen. En graag gedaan! Groetjes, Trijnsteltalk 11:11, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Het lijkt nu te werken. :) Bij nader inzien zou het ook handig zijn als je dit ook voor mijn hoofdaccount zou kunnen doen omdat ik in bepaalde gevallen (niet vaak) de bot ook sysop edits laat doen. :) -- Edinwiki (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Daar wacht ik liever nog even mee. Als je met jouw hoofdaccount ook een foutmelding krijgt (hoeft niet natuurlijk), geef het dan aan. Trijnsteltalk 13:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Je hebt helemaal gelijk. Ik heb het net getest en via de hoofdaccount gaat het blijkbaar wel gewoon goed, dus alles lijkt nu in orde. Nogmaals dank. :) -- Edinwiki (talk) 14:47, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

IP block

Warum ist meine IP gesperrt ? Ich schreibe von meinem Privat-PC ohne Anonymisierungsprogramme. Bitte um Begründung. --KaliNala (talk) 11:04, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Hallo KaliNala!
Trijnstel bat mich an ihrer Stelle hier zu antworten, da ihr Deutsch leider nicht das beste ist.
Könntest Du bitte die Sperrnachricht, die Du bei Deinen Edit-Versuchen erhältst, hier veröffentlichen (welche IP betroffen ist etc.)? Solltest Du Deine IP nicht an dieser Stelle veröffentlichen wollen, steht Dir selbstverständlich auch der Weg via E-Mail frei. Grüße, Vogone talk 15:29, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Unblock user:Holzliebhaber 2569

The account in the top is blocked globally and I have a right to open my account, comprare de:Wikipedia:Administratoren/Anfragen. There I´m allowed to make it. Thank you. --HZ 2569 sg (talk) 20:20, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

  Deferred to have another steward (Tegel?) or a German admin make a decision. See here and here for the related discussions. Trijnsteltalk 22:16, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Unblock User:BenSalo

Hi Trijnstel, I tried to edit Wikipedia from my home and found out that you blocked my IP... I really don't understand why, can you please help me? I always edit from my home and I never had any problems. How can we remove this block please? BenSalo (talk) 15:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi BenSalo. Could you please give me the block message so I can look into it? I need to know your IP etc. You can also email me if you wish. Trijnsteltalk 15:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Trijnstel,
Thanks for your reply. Here is the block message I got:

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: Your IP address has been blocked on all wikis. The block was made by Trijnstel ( The reason given is Open proxy: webhosting.

   Start of block: 16:05, 3 September 2013
   Expiry of block: 16:05, 3 September 2014

Your current IP address is Please include all above details in any queries you make.

I appreciate your help to unblock me... BenSalo (talk) 15:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I would advice you to first follow the instructions here to get rid of the open proxy. If it doesn't work, you may request an IP block exemption. Trijnsteltalk 18:56, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Proxy block. Why require it for logged in users?

Hi. It's really frustrating not being able to do any Wikipedia edits when using one of the "open proxies". Why is this trumping the account information? What does it matter what IP I use as long as I am logged in? Why don't you allow logged in users to edit pages from an "open proxy"? Arifve (talk) 06:46, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

See No open proxies. But let's ask another question: why do you need to use an open proxy anyway? Trijnsteltalk 18:39, 21 November 2013 (UTC)


Hello. Could you please do me a favor and consider my request at SRCU? Almost 48 hours have passed but no responses were given. 4nn1l2 (talk) 17:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

  Done. Trijnsteltalk 19:18, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much. 4nn1l2 (talk) 19:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for interrupting your privacy, but an administrator on Persian Wikipedia needs more technical information for long-term blocking the investigated user who is suspected to be engaged in an extensive sockpuppetry (of course the user is engaged in sockpupptry but the extent of their souckpupptry is still open to question). Is it possible for you to send the technical information for him privately just as you did here? 4nn1l2 (talk) 08:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but that's not possible. I send some info to Huji as he's a member of the ombudsman commission and a former CU but I probably shouldn't have done that either. You should believe me when I say that the accounts you mentioned are all sockpuppets of eachother. I've checked it pretty thoroughly. Trijnsteltalk 17:19, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


Hi Trijnstel,

so what exactly is the difference between a Wikipedian steward and a Chinese censor? Or to put it otherwise, as an Internet amateur, how do I know that you are what you claim to are? There's loads of ways to cantact you. And a nice scenery picture. Is that all? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 00:46, 4 December 2013‎ (UTC)

Hi anonymous user. A Chinese censor receives payment from his or her government. A Wikimedia steward can't accept any payment but will receive weird comments from time to time.   I'm listed on the automatically generated list Special:GlobalUsers/steward though, so I'm fairly sure I'm a steward. Kind regards, Trijnsteltalk 15:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Request lock for commons

Hi Trijnstel, my account User:Mensham49 has been blocked on commons by: User:A.Savin and User:INeverCry. The message seys:

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked.

INeverCry blocked Mensham49 from 21:14, 3 December 2013 to infinite; the reason given was: Abusing multiple accounts: Deutz Kalker Bad et al.

   Start of the block: 21:14 3 December 2013
   End of the block: infinite

Information for blocked users

To request a review of your block, either:

  • email INeverCry or another administrator (list). This option should work if a valid email address is specified in your account preferences, has been confirmed, and you are permitted to use it while blocked. Your current IP address is and the block ID is #203758. Please include this information in your query.
  • add {{unblock|your reason for requesting an unblock here}} to your user talk page. Blocked users may edit their own user talk page, unless specifically disallowed from doing so, e.g., for incivility. If you are not logged in as a registered user, use the talk page for your IP address.

If the block reason seems irrelevant to your edits, you may have been affected by a software feature known as the autoblock. Contact an administrator (as above), who will attempt to remove the autoblock. If unsuccessful, you may have to wait 24 hours for the autoblock to expire.

Can you request a lock for it (because blocked infinitley will let me sign out from that account)?

Only for Commons.--Mensham49 (talk) 19:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Will do that. You can also email info-commons, but you are blocked due to sockpuppetry so I won't give you much chance tbh. Trijnsteltalk 22:31, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


Hi, Trijnstel, where do you live in? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 20:04, 8 December 2013‎ (UTC)

Why do you wanna know? Trijnsteltalk 20:12, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Nothing wrong. Just to know where you are from.-- 20:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm Dutch. Trijnsteltalk 20:22, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
I guess Trijnstel lives in a house JurgenNL (talk) 20:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Where? The locality of your town.--Mensham49 (talk) 20:46, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Is that important? -- Tegel (Talk) 20:47, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Not important. It is just to know.-- 20:57, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
This is non of your business I believe? So plz... Natuur12 (talk) 20:59, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
You can ask users where they live. No problems.-- 21:04, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
And they can choose not to comment. Trijnsteltalk 21:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Which town do you live, Trijnstel?--Mensham49 (talk) 21:12, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
And now you're blocked. Please leave me alone. Trijnsteltalk 21:16, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Category:User nl

Dag Trijnstel, toevallig zag ik dat de uitleg bij de "Babels" er nogal verdraaid bijstaan. Kan jij dit fixen? Lotje (talk) 08:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Volgens mij staat dat niet alleen verkeerd bij nl, maar ook bij andere talen. Kijk bijv. eens bij fr. Dat zal grootschalig aangepakt moeten worden (zeker omdat we sinds vorig jaar een heel nieuw babelsysteem - {{#babel:}} - hebben waardoor het vervangen zou moeten worden), maar daar heb ik nu geen tijd voor. Met vriendelijke groet, Trijnsteltalk 17:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Dat begrijp ik best. "werk" loopt nooit weg, just slams you in the face... mvg. Lotje (talk) 06:50, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

changing name

hi Trijnstel, if you can to changing my user name in all Wikimedia project because i change my user name in and and wikidata to لطرش أحمد الهاشمي and i want the same name in all Wikimedia project, Thanks--A.Latreche (talk) 15:14, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay and I think you already followed up my advice, but please put those requests on SRUC and SR/SUL. Trijnsteltalk 18:44, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Please unblock me globally

Hi Trijnstel, I have tried to edit to on the english wikipedia but this message showed:

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

Your IP address has been blocked on all wikis.

The block was made by Trijnstel ( The reason given is Cross-wiki abuse.

 Start of block: 21:54, 5 September 2013 
 Expiry of block: 21:54, 5 September 2014 

Your current IP address is Please include all above details in any queries you make.

If you believe you were blocked by mistake, you can find additional information and instructions in the No open proxies global policy. Otherwise, to discuss the block please post a request for review on Meta-Wiki.

Thanks!-- 15:43, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Otherwise managed.  — billinghurst sDrewth 15:56, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: this is user Wikigabriel11 and it's still only him using this IP address (see here) so I reinstated the block. And he's also still active with sockpuppets, see #Welcome above. Please talk to me next time instead of just unblocking this user. Thanks. Merry Christmas though and a Happy New Year... Regards, Trijnsteltalk 15:18, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
So that's why I did that Commons block back in September. I couldn't remember who it was, so I just went with Billinghurst and unblocked it. Maybe I need more vitamin A in my diet. ;) INeverCry 18:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
  Trijnsteltalk 20:25, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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