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Wiktionary Bikol SentralEdit

Hi! Good day! I would like to ask what are the requirements still needed to be done to for the approval of the project Bikol Wiktionary (Wt/bcl). Thank you! - Dang Brazal (Talk) 03:52, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

@Jon Harald Søby: ^^ --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:43, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

2 requests for wv submitted on NovEdit

Wikiversity Punjabi began in March 2016 on betawv, and now has 800 pages(including categories, templates, other namespaces). Therefore, it is believed that this request can be changed to eligible. Wikiversity Indonesian has one page(Main page), so I think we'll have to wait for their activities. --Sotiale (talk) 07:30, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Kotava WikipediaEdit

@Jon Harald Søby, @James Heilman

The WP:Kotava project was launched in the Incubator more than two years ago. There has been regular and significant activity for over last twelve months, with about 10-12 active contributors each month. To date, it has 5469 articles (see Catanalysis) , making it the most dynamic and consistent project of all projects in the Incubator. And to quote his main administrator: This project is actually one of the best, highest-quality, most serious projects I have seen in my three years [...] as a sysop on Incubator.

The project meets all the requirements of the policy, and we have patiently fulfilled all the conditions and respected the procedures defined by the Langcom.

A discussion on the public mailing-list sept- nov- was launched on September 26th for its final approval. Three members of Langcom spoke explicitly for, and none of the titular members expressed opposition. I personally responded, through the members who answered me, to the legitimate questions raised in the discussion.

At a time, I was even asked to validate the namespaces of the project, which I did willingly and without delay.

But since then, nothing! It has been more than two months since nothing came of it, even though six other projects, much less advanced, were validated at the same time, and some after short and formal discussions.

I perceive in this bogging a kind of disdain that does not say its name, even a contempt for the kotavusik community which, even if it is small and does not meet the codes of pseudo-specialists in constructed languages, reveals its involvement, its linguistic mastery and its ability to produce quality encyclopedic work.

I'm asking for things to be unlocked. And if there is a surreptitious problem in the functioning of Langcom, at least the Wikimedia board is informed.

Personally, I am ready to make further and further clarifications (although I have the feeling that everything has already been said and produced on several occasions) that the full members of Langcom may wish.

Regards. Axel xadolik (talk) 18:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC) (test administrator of WP Kotava project)

"disdain that does not say its name"? Is that a reference to "w:The love that dare not speak its name"? It seems like a poorly chosen phrase.
Yes, obscure conlangs are hard sells, for reason that can be well-explained, and don't deserve such sarcasm.--Prosfilaes (talk) 11:09, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
@Axel xadolik: Are you really from langcom? If not, please do not use clauses like "Notification about proposed approval of", but "Request for approval of Kotava..." instead. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:02, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello. The topic is still under discussion in Langcom. --MF-W 19:42, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello @Jon Harald Søby, @James Heilman, @MF-Warburg:
Where is this discussion? Nothing seems to have changed... the silence that is reserved for the reprobate people, the unworthy... but unworthy of what?
Today, the project has 6003 articles (ie more than many official WP, it would even be in 170th place, out of 309), and once again more than 10 active contributors this month. Regards. Axel xadolik (talk) 15:32, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
I am sure that MF-W will let use know. Ping me in a couple of weeks if you still do not hear anything. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
@Doc James: Hello James, nothing is changed since your last message. So I'm asking you to intervene. Regards. Axel xadolik (talk) 13:52, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikinews IndonesianEdit

This Wikinews has been active again after a few months ago is not active and there are several contributors who actively on this Wikinews. So, I request that this Wikinews be approved. Regards! Sonic Speedy (talk) 09:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello. This and last month you are the only contributor. This month is the first one since 2013 in which the number of edits exceeded 10. So the project is not yet ready for approval. --MF-W 19:43, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Essay about new Arabic (non-ar) project openings?Edit

Let me repeat the request for an essay arguing against the opening of new Arabic projects not in Standard Arabic, hopefully in lieu of a wave of one sentence objections on every such request.

(I'll note I'm not a fan of the idea. Most of the accusations could go against any new language; if a language doesn't currently have a Wikipedia, then it's not a language of science or academia, and Internet users who speak that language are also fluent in a language that currently has a Wikipedia. I mean, if someone speaks no language that has a Wikipedia, there's basically no content on the web. That people in a major language don't want a Wikipedia in a minor language often considered a dialect of that language doesn't particularly seem relevant.)--Prosfilaes (talk) 11:45, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Please start allowing ancient languagesEdit

In the page Language proposal policy it’s written: “Only Wikisource wikis in ancient or historical languages are accepted, because resources in such languages continue to be important to the world, even in the absence of native, living speakers of those languages. Where possible, such languages should be bundled with the modern equivalent Wikisource project (such as Old English with English), though that is not required.” There is already a Wikipedia in latin, and a Wikipedia in Old English, which are not very small. In my opinion, ancient languages should be allowed for all Wikipedia projects, however with stricter policies to make sure there is a large enough community to expand those wikis. Best regards, Dino Bronto Rex (talk) 14:45, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello? Dino Bronto Rex (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
According to Professional Latinists say the articles in Latin Wikipedia are very good. I don’t see a reason why there shouldn’t be Wikipedias in other ancient languages. Dino Bronto Rex (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
That's not what that link says.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:10, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
We've had this argument. A lot. There's a Wikipedia in Old English; let's look at one of the pages linked from its main page: Beowulf. Let's compare that to Vietnamese, which about as far out from Beowulf's cultural sphere as possible. Oh, you say that Vietnamese is a major language; let's try Welsh. Yes, Swahili and Lithuanian are roughly comparable, but we also picked an article that should have been a good example for Old English. The list of countries shows that several don't have articles, and most of their capitals don't. Let's grab the top one with an article, Egypt (Cairo, the world's 15th largest city, and a city older than Old English, doesn't have an article). Note that this is the article after I reverted vandalism that had been there for more than a year: "Ǣgypte is land in Middlum Ēaste, þe hæfþ þā ēa Nilum." plus a couple pictures and a linking template.
The Old English Wikipedia is not a real encyclopedia. There is no reason for anyone to ever look anything up in it. Except for stare decisis, there's absolutely no reason Wikimedia should have it around. For the Latin Wikipedia, I can at least imagine that someone might have a set of languages such that for a particular subject, the Latin Wikipedia is the best Wikipedia for them. Not so with the Old English Wikipedia. Latin could be defined as a living language; it is the language of a (marginal) nation, it is being taught to young children as one of their mother tongues, and works are actually written in the language even today. I don't know about Sanskrit or Classical Chinese, but no other ancient language has that, and I can't imagine any other ancient language actually ever being useful as an encyclopedia to anyone. Latin might be known by someone who's not familiar with one of the languages of the huge Wikipedias; scholars who know some more obscure tongue generally know English, French, German, Chinese, Arabic or Russian.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:10, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
So can you at least allow wikitionary in ancient languages? Because right now the language committee allows just wikisources in ancient languages. Thanks in advance, Dino Bronto Rex (talk) 15:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

May I request Pa'o languageEdit

Pa'o are the large ethnic people,the 5th largest population in Myanmar, small number in Laos, Thailand.They have own language. But can't write and read in browser, wiki and other. So, I want to add our language. What should I do? Help me please Khun Yum Htun (talk) 04:08, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Where can I do?

Khun Yum Htun (talk) 04:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
@Khun Yum Htun: You can start a new Wikipedia test project for Pa'O language at Wikimedia Incubator. The manual can be found at here and language code (ISO 639-3) for Pa'O language is blk. Please feel free to contact me if you have any question or difficulties. NinjaStrikers «» 09:57, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Khakas Wikipedia. Хакасская википедия.Edit

Hello, I want to ask about the Khakass Wikipedia. It already contains more than 1000 articles, and is well developed. I believe that it is time to transfer it from the incubator to public access, at its URL. Здравствуйте, я хочу спросить о хакасской википедии. Она уже содержит более 1000 статей, и хорошо развивается. Я считаю что пора перенести ее из инкубатора в открытый доступ, на собственный URL. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Дмитрий Аланов (talk) 2020-01-04 07:17

@Amire80: Can this be approved? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:11, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Nehiyaw WikipediaEdit

Shall we reopen it? The closed-it user isn't a member of langcom, and wrongly pointed the proposer as "LTA" without any evidences. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: I'VE reopened it, I agree that that user has lack of evidences for LTA claim, though I have no time to discuss the real metter. -- 02:47, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
FYI proposer is locked as LTA. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:52, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Regarding giving self-URL to Awadhi incubatorEdit

The Awadhi incubator is quite active and a total of 3374 pages have been created on it so far. Please be pleased to give it the actual URL, which will speed up the development of its encyclopedia.


Bulgarian WikinewsEdit

Are there any other objections to fully deleting Bulgarian Wikinews without transfer to another project, like Russian Wikinews? What about phab:T233322? The matter was previously discussed at a user talk page. George Ho (talk) 07:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Cantonese WikiquoteEdit

Hi, I want to talk about the cantonese wikiquote. The Wq:Cantonese project was launched in the Incubator more than three years ago. There has been regular and significant activity for over last twelve months, also there is about several active contributors each month. Now it has more than 75 pages. So, I request that this Wikiquote be approved. Regards!--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) Wasami007 (talk) 01:35, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wiktionary MasryEdit

  • Sorry to bother you with this question. I am not sure if Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Masry is now eligible for its own URL. would you be kind enough to let me know if it is. If not , would you mind letting me know how to progress from here. User:Mahmudmasri and User:Ramsis II have been the most active users on this project apart fro me. It has been in the development for a few years now. I think it is ready for its URL. Thank you very much for your help. --Ghaly (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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