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Fundraising 2008/thank you/nlEdit


Some changes has been made in Fundraising 2008/thank you/nl after it was published. Can you update the site notice? Or can you tell me where to go to get it changed?

Thank you very much. Abigor talk 13:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Done, effe poked me the second I got on MSN. :P Cbrown1023 talk 14:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I hate it when people are faster than me :P Abigor talk 17:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


[1] Seams to be an spamming user. The languages he prefer, does not have an ISO 639-2 listing. All of them are dialects of croatian, serbian and bosnian. The arguments he give, are nationalistical attacs against croatian and bosnian integrity. Please take a look at his edits. Thanks. --Seha 14:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Try talk:Requests for new languages and GerardM (Gerard is on Langcom and should be able to help). Cbrown1023 talk 14:55, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
OK i move it there. Thanks --Seha 15:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank YouEdit

Thanks! However, please delete this redirect [2], since Classical Chinese is totally different from Modern Chinese, and should not be redirected. It's better keep it as English and others may try to translate this, if Modern Chinese is shown, others will not try to translate this message. Thanks again.--Itsmine 05:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

You really think that? I asked Ting to review the translation and he told me that it wasn't Classical Chinese, it was Traditional. (We knew before we saw you comment and that the languages are not the same.) However, wouldn't you agree that it is better to show Traditional Chinese instead of English (as a "fallback" language)? If not, I can delete the redirect and turn the sitenotices back to English... Cbrown1023 talk 17:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

In reality, the fallback language of Classical Chinese should not be Traditional Chinese, but this is another issue and I do not prefer to discuss at here. However, I can ensure that using English is much better since it will promote others who know Classical Chinese to translate. Thus please delete that redirect, thanks!

And once I am free, I will translate that immediately, maybe just within these few days.--Itsmine 17:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

  Done Cbrown1023 talk 17:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

problem with he-wiki sitenoticeEdit

the message that appears on the hebrew sitenotice, after you click on the "dismiss" button is:

"תירמו ויקיפדיה - מיזם ללא מטרות רווח"

You can see a screenshot here. It should be fixed to (I mean the text that is not inside the red button):

"תירמו לוויקיפדיה - מיזם ללא מטרות רווח"

I couldn't find the source for this mistake, this message does not appear in [3], so I hope that you know where to fix this. The Relativity of The Truth 11:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Fixed, the problem is that we had a "SITENAME" variable in place so it worked for other wikis. Looks like that was the problem. Cbrown1023 talk 16:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Steward elections.Edit


I don't know of you are the right person to ask but is it oke if I translate the statements in Dutch?

Best regards, Abigor talk 11:12, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I mean the confirm page for the people who are already a steward. Abigor talk 11:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
(Answering as a talk page stalker) Yes it's perfectly OK. Thanks for helping out! Majorly talk 12:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Majorly Thanks, This time somebody was faster than me. Next time I will start translating right away :) Abigor talk 21:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I will recrute more people for translations... :P Alex Pereira falaê 18:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
lol, don't worry, it's not a big deal. :P But since a lot of people were going to be seeing that, I thought you'd appreciate the copyedits. ;-) Cbrown1023 talk 21:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I was wondering if it's possible to use an edit summary with Special:Centralnotice. Probably not, but I guessed you would know if you can. So can you? Thanks. --Erwin(85) 10:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Nope. :-( Cbrown1023 talk 14:14, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Central notice on et: wikipediaEdit

On the Estonian Wikipedia, the banner of the steward elections was published with scandalous grammatical mistakes. We corrected the text. Please re-publish it as soon as possible, or still better, remove it since for our small community a simple announcement is enough. There is no need of exposing the banner to every reader. Andres 08:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

  Done and it doesn't show to every reader, it only shows it to logged-in users. Also, everyone can hide the banner by hitting the button. Cbrown1023 talk 18:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
The old text containing both substantial and grammatical mistakes still stands on the Estonian Wikipedia (people say so; I hid the text and can't read it anymore) and it also has been published on the Estonian Wiktionary. Andres 12:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Done again, ask them to purge their caches. Cbrown1023 talk 15:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Gracias, mi amigoEdit

 Thanks Cbrown1023 for this speedy reply. I appreciate a lot your contributions on all wiki pages.ترجمان05

:-) Thanks for all the help you give with translations. I wouldn't be able to do as much without it! Cbrown1023 talk 18:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

News-fr translationsEdit

Hi. I've seen your edit sumary. Please watch at User:Kropotkine_113 and tell me if I'm doing it right translating in sub-templates by month. I don't know how to use this page : Translation requests/WMF/News-fr. Is it only a work space or do I have to update it too ? The translations of {{News-en}}

into french is not finished yet but feel free to make any suggestions or comments if I'm doing something wrong and I'll try to achieve it correctly by the end of the week. Thanks. Kropotkine 113 22:02, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I was hoping you would see that summary. :-) Yes, what you're doing is great. I also updated the workspace to help you. You can continue with what you're doing, but the workspace provides links to all the pages and should make it easier. Merci for translating! Cbrown1023 talk 22:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  Done I asked guillom for the wikimediafoundation site's update. Maybe could you help for this ? Thanks for your help. Kropotkine 113 22:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw he did it. :-) Sure, I'll update the page. Thanks for all your help. Cbrown1023 talk 22:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks :) One more question : is there a dedicated and efficient place to ask for these page's updates ? Kropotkine 113 08:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Normally the only thing you'll need to do is update the status (but recently we've been really busy with the stewards elections and it seems like we missed the Local chapters update). However, if the update is not getting done, try Meta talk:Babylon or Wikimedia site feedback. You could also just do my talk page or e-mail me. ;-) Cbrown1023 talk 18:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Steward elections translation in he:Edit

In Stewards/elections 2009/Translation/CentralNotice#he, the translation was changed to be wrong (using the wrong term for "steward" in Hebrew). I reverted the change in the page, please apply the translation ASAP. – rotemlissTalk 10:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

  Done --Az1568 (talk) 14:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. – rotemlissTalk 15:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Central noticeEdit

Hello Cassey, there is another mistake regarding the translation here and here. The text would be:

«Las personas interesadas en presentar su candidatura a steward para este año están llamados a presentar sus candidaturas hasta el 25 de enero.»

Saludos. Dferg (meta-w:es:) 10:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

  Done --Az1568 (talk) 14:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Dferg (meta-w:es:) 15:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey Knakts, thanks for translating the notices for the Stewards elections into Latviešu! However, we don't have a translation for the word "hide" (other languages already had it, yours did not :-(). Would you mind translating it here? Thanks! Cbrown1023 talk 00:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Knakts 10:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Stewards/elections 2009/Guidelines/zh-hantEdit

Proofread by me and ready to publish. OhanaUnitedTalk page 16:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

These translations stay on Meta-Wiki, so you can just update the status to "|published" yourself. ;-) Thanks for reviewing it though! Cbrown1023 talk 22:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Roger. OhanaUnitedTalk page 05:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your corrections of Template:ChapitresEdit

I tried to create a french version of this template for french pages, but I appreciate your corrections. I think that it's most efficient now. Thank you and sorry for my poor english! Have a nice day! Jeff de St-Germain 17:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Your English is fine ;-) and no problem at all. Cbrown1023 talk 19:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


You edited this page in August 2008. Does it have any function, or is it just rubbish that should be deleted? Thanks, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 11:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

It does have a function, it's part of the old translation system (like the Spanish one) which is obsolete but is still used on the old pages. We can keep it around. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 21:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Volunteers for OTRSEdit

C Brown,

And what we will did with Rodrigo? You already know what I think about...

Kisses, Béria Lima Msg 16:34, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

You're free to comment anything that you feel about his application. If you don't want to do it on Meta, you can do it privately at volunteers-otrs Abraços, Cbrown1023 talk 20:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Egyptian languageEdit

Thanks you very much for your answer!
but, I dont believe there are many people who can speak this language, it will be better dont do this purpose...
best regards
--Mel Parlez 19:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
PR:Do you speak spanish?

I speak some Spanish, yes. Cbrown1023 talk 19:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Stewards election statisticsEdit

Sorry, I don't see that page because it isn't linked on italian traslation of introduction. I'll go and add to it. Thanks. --Skyluke 21:02, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem, thanks. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 01:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

template:生命棋 / Game of LifeEdit

{{生命棋}} is recursively converted. It calculates the new board position and the subst: writes the result and the template call itself on the page. Hillgentleman 03:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Minor bug on www.wikipedia.orgEdit

Hi Cbrown1023, I'd like to report that a couple of users at id.wikipedia found some missing text on Above the search box there is text that's supposed to show like this:

"... hľadať · søg · cari"

But it only shows this:

"... hľadať · søg · ca", and in some resolutions only this: "... hľadať · søg ·"

Maybe it's a text wrapping thing. Can you please help fix it? Thanks! dragunovadiscuss 16:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey dragunova. Actually, it would be better to put this question on template where the maintainers of that page and fix it. :-) I can do minor things, but I'd rather not mess with the actual code. :P Cbrown1023 talk 22:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'll do that :D dragunovadiscuss 03:11, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikimania 2009/CentralNotice/idEdit

Hi Cbrown, thanks for your help. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 02:06, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I fix in id. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 02:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Tagalog translationEdit

cbrown 1023- i am willy. my problem is the difficulty to press the right commnad bottons of this computer. I am willing to translate some grammars if i can but i have difficulty to locate the right essay or grammar to be translated. pls. if possible i will do it like a draft so errors will be easily corrected. i am not able to arrange the essays to fit your standards/ the way you do. Willy agrimano 02:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, all translations will be reviewed before they are uploaded on the foundationwiki. You can find a list of pages to translate on T. Cbrown1023 talk 02:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikimania 2009/CentralNoticeEdit

Hey, could you explain your edit summary, "it does not work like that, there is a specific interface for adding them -- we don't want people to comment on those pages, because no one watches them"? I'm fairly sure that CentralNotices are added on pages of the form I specified. I could be wrong though; hence my question. Best, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 02:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

You are right, they are added to the pages specified. But... we don't want people adding them through the MediaWiki namespace – it's better to add them through the notice interface. If we list them there, people might visit that page to change them by themselves if they have the rights (and not update the centralized page) and they could even comment on the talk page for the MediaWiki page (which no one watches). Sometimes it's better to not provide a ton of information, just enough is good enough. :D Does this make sense? Cbrown1023 talk 03:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Sounds fair enough. I'm not particularly acquainted with the process of notification on this scale; for my own information, could you explain what you mean by the "notice interface"? Perhaps I already know what you're talking about but call it something different; or maybe I just don't know about it. >_< Thanks, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 03:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Special:NoticeTemplate / Special:CentralNotice. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 03:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'm going to bed. Night Josh, talk to you tomorrow on gtalk about this maybe? Cbrown1023 talk 03:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Sure. Goodnight. :) —Anonymous DissidentTalk 03:16, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Traducciones: IdoEdit

(Spanish) Hola! :)
Gracias por permitirnos traducir esa noticia, espero ser útil en las traducciones a Ido. ¡Saludos!
Nota: Leí que entiende algo de español, jeje (casi no sé Inglés) :)
--Rodrigo González Castillo 06:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

:D Cbrown1023 talk 18:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

ip additions to published messagesEdit

What to do with additions like this? I can't see a relevant switch in Template:Translation2/link for postpublished additions that needs proofreading/check. Finn Rindahl 08:27, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

We treat it as if it were still a new translation, if you don't trust it do "needs proofreading". If you do trust (and it's not published), do "ready". Cbrown1023 talk 18:01, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

re:"Hide" / "Help us with translations!"Edit

  Done -- Jagwar 12:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Translation For Pashto Language is done, You can update it nowEdit


Please provide me further translations like that:

This one is done and you can update it.


--احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل 06:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Published, thanks. If you're looking for other things to translate, try T. Cbrown1023 talk 21:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Simplified EnglishEdit

Hey again, your point about simple English for multilingual users is sound, and I agree with it. I'll try to be more mindful in future. I've taken the liberty of annotating the other statuses; it didn't seem to make sense that only two of four had descriptions. Perhaps you'd like to have a check to make sure they're not too wordy as well? Best, and thanks for your help, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 09:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

You really make me giggle sometimes. :-) (Specifically, your use of "I've taken the liberty of annotating..." in a section called "Simplified English".) Cbrown1023 talk 20:55, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
You'll have to excuse my propensity for prolixity. ;) —Anonymous DissidentTalk 05:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Exuberance for extended English is excused :) Daniel (talk) 05:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Pontic wikipediaEdit


Do you know how to add Pontic wikipedia (pnt:) to this script? Thanks, MarsRover 03:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

It automatically gets added and it is there already, see #221. Cbrown1023 talk 14:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikimania 2009: Translation in Gujarati (:gu)Edit

Hi Cbrown, I noticed that next to Gujarati on translation page, you have left a remark saying "Needs Updating" (see here), can you please let me know what needs updating and where? as I couldn't find anything from the page that link leads.--DhavalTalk 12:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey Dsvyas. :-) As you can see on the diff of my edit, I added two phrases that need translations: "Hide" and "Help us with translations!" I asked સતિષચંદ્ર to work on it (I think he translated it originally), but I would appreciate your help too. :D Thanks! Cbrown1023 talk 20:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Licensing update/CentralNoticeEdit

I made some adjustments to Licensing update/CentralNotice#yue and switched it from published back to ready. So please overwrite the old version with the updated one. OhanaUnitedTalk page 13:43, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. Finn Rindahl 13:47, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Committee pageEdit

I was going from the fact that almost everything else in Category:Wikimedia committees has the committee page as a root page rather than a sub-page. Curiously the elections committee pages that you cite are not in that category at all. I'm not going to be picky about it, though. Dragons flight 21:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the elections committees and licensing committee are special because they are only meant to be temporary – they serve one specific purpose or event and when that's done, the committee is basically dissolved. Cbrown1023 talk 22:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Licensing updateEdit

heh. oops. sorry about that. I thought someone had accidentally added it... Thingg 15:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Translation questionEdit

When I translate/fix a translation, do I notify anyone or just change the page it is listed from (as needing translation) myself? (I'm asking about the actual regular procedure of course, not an emergency situation, what should I do?). And of course, some links that need translating, I don't know if the -es exists yet ^.^, so notifying someone who knows what they're doing might be best. (but preferably not a busy admin?) There are all sorts of instructions but I don't think they're very clear regarding what to do to let meta know something is done (sorry if I skipped an easily findable help page).--sscout 01:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

It depends on what you're talking about and what the current status of the translation is. For example, if you're making a change to a published translation of the wmfwiki home page, then you'll need to change the status of the translation to "ready" on the status template (otherwise we won't know to update it). If it's about a notice like Licensing update/Translation, then you need to update the text there and change the status to "ready". If it's something that stays on Meta-Wiki, but has a translation status template (like Translation FAQ), then you can just update the page and leave the status as "published". If it's something like Licensing update that stays on Meta and has no status template, then you can just fix the page. :-) I hope this helps, but if it's confusing or you have any other questions, don't hesitate to poke me! Cbrown1023 talk 01:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Are you looking for things to translate too? If so, which language(s)? :-) Cbrown1023 talk 01:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Spanish <-> English--sscout 01:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Automatic translationEdit

I'm curious about your comment about translators. I would like to read more about the copyrighted status of the resulting translations. Do you know if there were some discussion about this before, in any place? Do you know some free translator? Thanks in advance... ;-) Helder 17:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

That was something Aphaia told me once, I don't know if there was any discussion about it. But to me, it just makes sense. If you translate something, the resulting translation is text that's copyrighted by you (and the author of the original text). Why should a machine be different? The person who spent all that time writing the code is basically the "translator" in this case. Hmm, I'm not sure of any free translators. They probably exist, but I can't think of any. Cbrown1023 talk 21:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok! Thank you anyway! It makes sense for me too... And thank you for noting that... =) Helder 21:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Licensing update/CentralNoticeEdit

Here (on meta) is correct croatian translation for "Licensing update/CentralNotice", but on hr.wikipedia pages text is not same like here, on is "glasajte sada!" ("sound"), instead correct "glasujte sada" ("vote"), thanks in advance! --Jure Grm, 22. day of April in Year of Our Lord Twotousandandnine, at 00:17 o'clock.

It is OK now, sorry! Thanks! --Jure Grm, 22. day of April in Year of Our Lord Twotousandandnine, at 00:19 o'clock.
Yeah, it takes 5-15 minutes to update on the wiki. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 21:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


Hello, Cbrown1023. You have new messages at Meta:Babel. Cheers, and happy editing! Sincerely, Dylan620 Talk to the left, stalk to the right..

This message was sent to you at 21:53, 22 April 2009 (UTC).

Article translationEdit

Hi Cbrown1023,

I would like to help translating the useful articles in Wikipedia to Thai language but I don't know how to apply for translator.

Could you please suggest me? I can translate English <==> Thai <==> French.


You don't need to apply to be a translator. All you have to do is create an account on the Thai Wikipedia, pick an article from another wiki that you like but doesn't exist yet on Thai Wikipedia, and translate it! :-) (Make sure you mention somewhere in the edit summary something like "Translation of w:en:ARTICLE NAME". Article translation is usually a solitary process, but there are projects like the Translation of the week. Good luck and thanks for wanting to help! Cbrown1023 talk 20:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

"Hide", "help"Edit

With regard to this – where are people supposed to post these translations for languages that /don't/ have it yet? I know that most languages have those two, but I don't see the harm in having the extra parameters so that languages lacking the "hide" and "help" text can be covered. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 02:00, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

We chatted on Gtalk about this. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 14:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Press releaseEdit

Hi. Where do you think we can help to translate this page and this into french ? I don't see {{News-en/2009-04}} nor {{News-fr/2009-04}} on meta... Kropotkine 113 13:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Good point, et voila, it exists now. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 14:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I understand that a open wiki is not the appropiate place for a business press release, but Orange is a french company so I think that a french version of the press release would be helpful. Can you help me to find the right place for my request ? Thank you. Kropotkine 113 13:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

If you translate it, we can put it on the Foundationwiki, because that's a good point. Hmm, you can put it in your userspace since we only want to have a translation into French (and not the other languages, otherwise we'd put it somewhere under Translation requests). Cbrown1023 talk 14:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok thank you. You can find the french official press release on User:Kropotkine_113/Orange and an abstract to {{News-fr/2009-04}} (please note that I didn't translate it, it's the official french version). I'll work this week with the french Wikimedia chapter on translating the FAQ. Kropotkine 113 07:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I asked guillom to put it on the wikimediafoundation's web site, so now it's ok (but I still have to translate the FAQ). Thanks for your help. Kropotkine 113 19:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, Guillaume told me he put it on the website. :-) Merci for your help. Cbrown1023 talk 21:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


Sorry for bothering you again with this matter but could you please look at MediaWiki talk:Centralnotice-shared-hide/vo? Thanks, Malafaya 17:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

  Done, thanks. Cbrown1023 talk 21:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

wmf:Resolution:Biographies of living people/koEdit

Would you consider to remove "이 결의안은 2009년 4월에 통과된 "? I missed this part while proofreading. Regards.--Kwj2772 () 02:42, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

or you can copy and replace with note section.--Kwj2772 () 02:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
  Done, thanks. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 01:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


It was my thinking that the old CentralNotice was outdated, and that a new message will need to be prepared for mid-May (either the tenth or eighteenth; I'm not sure which will be used). So I went ahead and pioneered a new notice. You're more familiar with procedure and such than I am, and know more people involved in translation than I do, so I thought you I should let you know. Thanks, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 08:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks good and yes, it was probably a good idea to let me know. ;-) Cbrown1023 talk 20:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.Edit

Thank you for your deleting Template:Other languages/Template:LUresults phase. I'll be more careful from now on. --Akaniji 01:53, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

There's nothing to be careful about, it's just something that seemed right but would probably be easier to a different way. There's no problem at all. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 02:06, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Wow, it (the "Hide" and "Help us in...") now in my language. I've long wanted to see it that way. Thank you for making this possible! Katimawan2005 15:24, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for translating it! :-) Cbrown1023 talk 17:23, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks from me too for your help on my page. I'm just learning the markup =-)Jennifer Riggs 01:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem! We were all new to it at one point. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 02:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


Hai Casey. Srs Maker Faire editing biz. :o -- 23:11, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

How did I know it was you just by seeing the "ohai" header? :P Cbrown1023 talk 23:13, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:D -- 23:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Retrospective translationEdit

Hi Casey,

It occurs to me that the next phase of LU translation is to make sure pages in every language have the correct tense and up-to-date information. What do you think? I'm less than experienced in getting the message "out there" in translation circles, so I came here to see if you could get the wheels in motion on translation-I and such. Cheers, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 23:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response, I've been rather busy with exams. Personally, I don't think it's as big of a deal to have the "correct tense" – it's fine keeping the page as an "archive" if it means less work for a bunch of different people. Do you catch my drift? Cbrown1023 talk 01:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wikimania 2009Edit

Thanks Cbrown1023, I´ll follow the directions you´ve gave me. Att, Nevinho 07:15, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


Hello ^_^ I'm trying to get back to wiki after a long pause, but I don't seem to be able to request a cloak, I get an error. Can you help? Thank you and good travel! --Elitre 20:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Reading those nice little templates at the top of the page sometimes does help... :) --Elitre 20:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
hehe, yeah unfortunately the tool's having problems. :-( Cbrown1023 talk 20:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Board elections/ResultsEdit

> Hey Dragonòt, you translated Board elections/2009/Results/vi but there was a small change in the source. ...

OK, done. Note: Board elections/2009/Results/pms, not "vi". Regards, --Dragonòt 19:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Great, thanks for your help! Also, sorry about that -- typo. ;-) Cbrown1023 talk 01:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

project portalsEdit

Hi. I see you synced a bunch of the work I've done on the project portal pages. I've tried being patient on this. I noticed that you skipped wikiquote and wikiversity citing 'errors'.[4] [5]

I see what happened with wikiquote, but don't see any issue with wikiversity.

I have fixed the first issue and have pushed both of the temp pages further along as I've been doing on others. All seems good to me, and I'll keep pushing things as I have time. You can preview the temp pages using these links:

On the wikiversity page, I also made some tweaks to the positioning of the logo and the boxes in orbit. On this portal, I'm using a fixed width of 12em on the boxes in order to force the ones that have long text in them to wrap. Other things I plan on doing are to rework the "Other projects" code to not use duplicate links on the icons and text (and I expect to do a nice on-hover effect). I've done a lot of refactoring of the inline styling into the embedded style sheet and there is more to do on all the portals. The end game to all this will be to pitch a new look and see what people think. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


I just did the GFDL=>CC tweak. The changes in the queue are exactly the same as in

Do note the brief chat at template/temp about how I tweaked the ordering slightly. It could easily go back if I've missed something. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

You've done a great job at updating all the portals and making them better, I noticed that when I was doing all the updates – they're more standardized and look like they save load time. (This is why I asked MZMcBride if he'd take a look and make the fixes if he could, I'm not that big of a dick that I'd ignore all the work you did. ;-)) The fact that you were watching the pages and noticed these makes things even easier. :D
Yeah, I think I forgot to do, you're completely right here, I'll do that one now. The noticeable error with both of them was the orbit not being aligned correctly and it looks like you fixed that (though, either Spanish or French is misaligned on the Wikiquote portal, could you look into that?). I'll push all your updates, including Wikiquote (but I'll push another update if you could fix the fr/es issue).
Good work on the portals. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 14:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I know about the alignment issues. The key issue is that the current positioning is working of the top-left (or top-right) corner of a box that varies in width based on the content. As in interim step, I've experimented with fixing the width. A mechanism based on an offset from the center of an ideal point on the "orbit" would be better. There's also the idea of getting away from the orbiting look. A protracted discussion, I'm sure.
The load times ("page weight") on the high side are due to too many external style sheets being pulled in that contain stuff that's not being used. Cutting that back will have to be done carefully to make sure nothing needed is lost. On my list. I'm taking a code-first approach. I want to get things under control and flexible before I try and make the more visible changes. I'd like to be syncing in smaller batches as a huge/messy diff is likely to spook folks. Mostly folks used to looking at wiki-text diffs.
I'll bring whichever of the portals are "behind" up to where wikipedia and the ones I've touched in the last few days are and then start the next push. I call it "Kick the can" — always in the right direction. I'll do the fr/es tweaks tomorrow ;) Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:50, 18 July 2009 (UTC)(who can be the biggest dick of them all)
If you want a sync, throw a note on my talk page here or at I'm ninja-like in speed usually. Or something. --MZMcBride 20:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I've updated:

I did a bunch of stuff; positioning tweaks to get things looking balanced, refactoring inline css, omitting nbsp/160 entities in lieu of some css to achieve the same effect (exception; wikiversity allows wrap, now). I've also cut a lot of fully-qualified URLs in favor of targeting the top of the subdomains. This allows local control of where a project wants "Main Page" — control by whomever controls the server redirect. has something different going on; a language variant option, I think. I paused on that one; also leaves the 100+ tier to-do. It seems like Bosnian and Bulgarian need to move up to displace Turkish and French; I may be missing something, though. This will require a 'tag-line' in those languages and tweaks to the positioning to keep things pretty. I'm gonna point teh ninja at this, so he may beat you to it. Avoid race-conditions ;) Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

w00t, I beat the ninja! \o/ Cbrown1023 talk 14:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm at UTC+8, which means it's late for me; you appear to be 19000km from me (which is a 27 hour plane ride); I've no idea where teh ninja is; asleep at the sync, this time. You do know he put me on these portals, right? Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm at UTC-4 and teh ninja is near me, so maybe he's just sleeping in. ;-) Good night, Jack! (Oh, and yeah I knew MZM has been working with you.) Cbrown1023 talk 15:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
It's Sunday! Ninjas need beauty rest, too. (Maybe we should start using the {{editprotected}} tag for things like this....) --MZMcBride 19:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

wikibooks portalEdit

Something went wrong with the last sync; there's a loose bit of javascript in the live version that's not in the /temp page. This is what happened in one of the others, above. I'm going to editprotected tag it in case you're off. Check the others, too. Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

  Fixed, weird. It's something with a personal script. *grmbls and goes to investigate* Cbrown1023 talk 16:20, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

language and outreach questionsEdit

I would like to hear your ideas for improvements - technical, procedural, social - to our current language and outreach tools. If there isn't a list of such things, it would be worth making one.

Some of the tools might simply be procedural -- for instance, defining core languages which could be explicitly used as hub languages; or encouraging people to use offline translation tools as part of their work so that one day we could combine that data into a translation memory. -- sj | help translate |+ 11:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't need to be tech, thanks for helping clarify. Most tech solutions have social equivalents and vice-versa. I think some telling changes would be social. Simply stating there are core languages for localization or canonical documents would be a significant change for language issues. Conversely, the proposed idea that all strategic planning be done in English would define how groups are formed and discussions organized. For outreach, wiki and social issues about where presentations (or conference papers) are shared and archived, where event calendars are posted and updated, & how requests to talk are shared are all relevant. -- sj | help translate |+ 23:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


I saw your notice at once, and I intend to translate the rest, but presumably not in next 48 hours (I haven't responded at once because I thought that I could manage to do something today, but no such luck :(....). Regards! SpeedyGonsales 16:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, I thought you didn't see it because you weren't active on Meta. :-) It's fine, you can do it when you have time! Cbrown1023 talk 19:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

hi translationsEdit

Thanks for writing, Cbrown!

I am practicing my hands on wiki translations so I did this and a few pages. Now, I am getting fluent with the process. I am still here and will translate the updation after the elections results and the formation of the board.

In the meantime, it would be helpful if you could guide me about the pages that are most referred to by the visitors, so that I translate them first so that more people get benefitted, or the pages that are admin info related so that more people read and understand them in their own language and feel encouraged to join the en<>hi translation team.

Rawat 20:59, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for translating! Wikimedia site priority list should be helpful. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 21:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Contact us/ocEdit

  Done Translation done ! Regards. Cedric31 08:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks Cedric. It's online at wmf:Contactatz-nos. Cbrown1023 talk 13:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi are you...i had talked to you previously on GTalk...

I need your help. How can i contribute to Wikipedia, as i tried it many times but i failed, as all my contributions got rejected apart i provided publication References.

Please assit me How i can operate,use & contribute to WIKI with Ease.


My Email: Username at wikipedia: abutorsam007

"Actively translating"Edit

I'm confused; Downtime is less translated than Board elections/2009/CentralNotice... yet Downtime is not being actively translated while Board elections/2009/CentralNotice is? Also, a landing page does does not really need a cumbersome setup – look at the format of disambiguation pages on the content wikis, for example. What happens when you have more than two items? I'm sure it's a possibility. A final thing: don't you think a simpler format would be more suitable for the page's eventual purpose of documenting CentralNotices in general (which is only sensible, given the page name)? Your thoughts? —Anonymous DissidentTalk 04:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

In fact, /Downtime is in Category:Translations in priority, while Board elections/2009/CentralNotice is not. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 04:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Currently, Downtime is no longer a priority for us as it's in the past and we don't foresee any more planned downtime in the near future. The fact that Downtime is still in that category, is my fualt since I had forgotten to de-categorize the page after the outage. Fixed now. I'll let you guys figure out the formatting for the page however... :-P --Az1568 (talk) 04:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
We probably won't have more than two items, but if there is it's specifically setup so we can shrink the columns. Also, if we're going with your point about documenting CentralNotice, then it should definitely be like that. If tons of people are going to be sent there, then we're going to want to have something big that points them in the right direction. They shouldn't get confused by all the text at the bottom and should just get pointed in the right direction, no? Cbrown1023 talk 14:04, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
That is a point I didn't think of... let me get back to you. I'm thinking maybe we should have CentralNotice just be a disambiguation, if we're set on having it be a landing page. It's not usual, but what about CentralNotice (documentation), or Help:CentralNotice for the documentation? A redirect to that can be provided from CentralNotice. That way the problem of "alnders" getting confused will be avoided. What do you think? —Anonymous DissidentTalk 21:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Publishing Centralnotice for dsb and hsbEdit

Hi Casey, please don't publish a Centralnotice if it is still marked as proofreading. You've once written in a summary that marking as proofreading isn't necessary for dsb and hsb since I'm the only one who translates Centralnotices. You are right but just therefore I mark Centralnotices as proofreading. I give me a time interval to sharpen my look at the translated text. Thus I can see any errors yet. Well, please don't publish the translated Centralnotice until I've marked it as done. Thanks, --Michawiki 07:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

If you're going to remember to come back, then sure. :-) For most other languages, no one will proofread the strings and then your work is wasted (it will just sit there the whole time the notice is up). But we'll remember to leave yours there, thanks for translating Micke! Cbrown1023 talk 14:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes, of course, I come back because I translate a centralnotice since I don't like untranslated phrases inside translated text :-). I mark the notice as proofreading for myself to avoid double work for you if I make errors because I did it in a hurry. Regards, --Michawiki 18:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Diffs on identification noticeboardEdit

Hey Casey,

I removed the recent diffs you added on the identification noticeboard. The diffs should be of Cary's confirmation, so anyone can check an entry anytime. I left the names in until Cary's available. :)

Pathoschild 12:02:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Cary's going to be away, without internet access for over a week so he asked Mike to do it while he's gone (and have me help out). I'm going to ask Mike to try to add them (even if he messes up, it should still be good ;-)). I'm assuming that it will be okay for Mike to be adding, because he's another staff member (the General Counsel) and Cary's designee. If this happens again, Cary should probably send an e-mail to the stewards telling them what'll happen with the ID noticeboard. Cbrown1023 talk 15:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


Hello Cbrown1023,

I'm from the German Wikipedia and would like to propose a correction in the above mentioned central notice from Hilf uns mit der Übersetzung to Hilf uns bei der Übersetzung. As it seems, I can't do it myself (can't edit the page). The problem with the sentence is that the verb helfen can be used differently with the prepositions mit and bei: When one says Hilf uns bei der Übersetzung (as proposed), it just means Help us with the translation (Help us to do the translation). When one says Hilf uns mit der Übersetzung it literally means Help us by means of the translation (to achieve something else).

Of course one could ask: Why hasn't anyone else objected until now? I think it's because of a tendency in German, especially in the internet, towards anglicisms combined with the fact that the issue is small (one word) and most people understanding what is meant.

Further reference to illustrate my point can be found (in German) at [6].

Thanks for your time, -- Marilyn.hanson 12:48, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

  Done. diff --Az1568 (talk) 03:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Terms of use in NorwegianEdit

Hi. The current heading is somewhat awkward, as 'Vilkårene' means 'the terms'. It would be much better if the definite article is removed, 'Vilkår' is therefore better. Can you move the page? Regards, --Kjetil_r 19:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

  Done, and updated the page title on the translation request: [7]. Cbrown1023 talk 19:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


Haha, nice summary :). I know the guys. I also knew that it needs proofreading before publishing but I did not know that this is needed in updates too. Thanks and sorry, --ZaDiak 06:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

(I should've put the other Greeks. ;-)) Well, this is a rather large update and Staff can be a complicated page (position titles can be tricky), so that's why this one could probably use proofreading too. It's no problem. Cbrown1023 talk 13:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok thanks for the info. I might come back with another question since I plan to gradually become more active in translations here.--ZaDiak 20:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

This was a small update I do not think that it needs proofreading if it is still needed please let me know:).--ZaDiak 13:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


Would you like to participate in an interview on Meta? I need another candidate after the previous interviewee retired from Wikipedia. OhanaUnitedTalk page 05:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I guess I could give it a shot. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 17:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
You may answer directly on the page. Feel free to add/delete/modify questions if desired. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
User:Lar has added some answers to the page. You can add yours directly to the page if you wish. OhanaUnitedTalk page 02:30, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm really glad he did, I've been working on parts of it off-wiki but it's easier to build off his answers. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 02:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Communications Project- Volunteer ManualEdit

Hi Casey- I'm wondering what the status is of the Volunteer Manual that was started in the Communications Project. I have created (hopefully correctly) a Category for Volunteering. I'd like to encourage categorization of appropriate pages so that we can get a good look at what has been tried across Meta and also direct current interested parties in commenting on some of the ideas that I've been tossing around and hearing in my Wikification process. What do you think? Jennifer Riggs 17:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

It's really old (from July 2007). ;-) If you'd like to help revive, that would be awesome – comproj is looking for stuff to do! Also, the category sounds like a good idea to help keep everything together and see what's been tried before and what hasn't. (About your "hopefully correctly", you could try to categorize the category too: Category:Categories. :-)) Cbrown1023 talk 20:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
I agree this would be awesome. Cbrown: also a candidate for a mid-level trans priority? -- sj · translate · + 17:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It would need to be updated and cleaned up first. We need to see what kind of document it becomes before we know if it's something we should translate. Cbrown1023 talk 21:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

admintools.js breakageEdit

Your admintools.js is broken, leading to this problematic edit: [8]. You want to replace document.write with importScript to avoid this. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I disabled it a few days ago. What's the proper code you suggest? importScriptURI? Cbrown1023 talk 19:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


Hi. Please undo the change of "братских" to "дочерних" there, because there is no Wikimedia mentioned there. A "дочерний проект" is a subproject. Among those which I can understand enough, only the Bulgarian translation says "and the other projects of Wikimedia Foundation". Thanks. --AVRS 13:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

It's been done, but in the future please update the translation workspace: strategy:Call for participation/Appeal letter/ru. Cbrown1023 talk 14:21, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn’t recognize it as such. --AVRS 15:13, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia MacedoniaEdit

Hi. Please, can you add Macedonia Wikimedia in the list of local chapters on Wikimedia, because we were already recognized as a Wikimedia local chapter. Thank you. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski 21:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I already e-mailed Brest a long list of information that we need. He said that you guys would discuss the questions/text on Thursday when at your Meetup. Cbrown1023 talk 21:28, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

We met today, and the information that is released is that Brest is Chairman, Kiril Simeonovski is Treasurer, and FlavrSavr is PR vice president. The establishing day of the organization, before getting the approval is 14 March, 2009. We also want to know, is our chapter officially recognized, and if the answer is yes, why this wasn't announced on the main page. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski 17:44, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I think there's a bit of confusion here. The Board announces that a chapter is recognized by passing a resolution. These resolutions are listed on wmf:Resolutions (Wikimedia Macedonia's is here). The text on wmf:Local chapters is written by the chapter itself and is then placed by someone else (usually me). I e-mailed Brest a few days ago for the "Local chapters" text, the chapter address, and a Press contact, he said he's working on getting this information together already. Let's wait for him to e-mail me back. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 19:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I know about the resolution, and I proposed that we are officially recognized, but it is odd for me, because this is not announced. I talked with Brest, and he allowed me to present theese informations. I can tell him to send you an e-mail, in which you can get all informations you want.--Kiril Simeonovski 19:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you about the changes. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski 11:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for helping gather the information. :) Cbrown1023 talk 23:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Sitenotice no/nb and translation of letter into NorwegianEdit

Hi, the sitenotice is displayed in English for uselang no, could you fix the link no ->nb somewhere :)

Whoops, sorry about that. Fixed. Cbrown1023 talk 19:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Secondly, I notice that the Norwegian version of the lettter has not been published, if you could direct me to what is lacking (and where to add it) I might be able to fix it today (but I will not have much wikitime later I'm afraid). Best regards, Finn Rindahl 17:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

There are some issues with publishing the translations (on the tech side, not the translator-side), I'll check on it and ask what's up with Norwegian. Thanks for poking me. Cbrown1023 talk 19:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks for looking into this. You may want to update, presently it shows some languages as published that are not (like Norwegian), and some languages like ready that are published (like German, I didn't fix that since Philippe had just degraded it...) Bit confusing ;) All the best, Finn Rindahl 22:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Template:Translation/Translation requests/WMF/Terms of UseEdit

Hello, I notice that someone edited Template:Translation/Translation requests/WMF/Terms of Use and make it very wrong. Spanish(es), Simplified Chinese(zh-hans), Traditional Chinese(zh-hant) is "missing" now, but actually they have already been published. Maybe there's problem with also the other languages. plz see this. -- 18:21, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. Cbrown1023 talk 00:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

CentralNotice/Global sysopsEdit

Hello Casey,

Would you be able to let the translators know about this notice? I'd do it myself, but I know you're the go-to guy on translations, and I'm still quite unsure of the process. Thanks for your time. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 23:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

(Casey asked me to comment on this because he's busy in real life.) We're actually about to start a translation request for our annual funddrive. While normally we would be happy to send something out, I just don't feel that this request will get the attention that it deserves. :-/ Maybe you could try adding it to Translation requests from Wikimedia community for now? --Az1568 (talk) 01:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Sure, whatever works. I appreciate that the fundraising is significantly more important than the global sysops proposal; I don't want to divert attention. I'll take your advice and add it to translation requests. Regards, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 01:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I highly doubt that we'd want to devote the entire page to the fundraiser. So, I don't see any reason why you can't post it there. :-) --Az1568 (talk) 18:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Taking over accountEdit

Hi, I asked the same question to another bureaucrat a week ago and without any reply so I post it to you as well. What is the procedure here on Meta if I would like to take over an account? I have the global account for "Tegel" and there is an account here on Meta created 2007 and with one edit in 2007 with that name. You can find a confirmation that I'm "Tegel" om my swedish User Talk-page here. -- Tegel2 11:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I have already got a reply from another bureaucrat and been referred to Meta:Changing username. -- Tegel2 12:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Gentle pokeEdit

On Global sysops/zh#許可權, how can I translate "Bypass global blocks" into Chinese? After fiddling around with it, the best I can do is change those bolded words but not the bulleted points. OhanaUnitedTalk page 06:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response, this week's been reaaaaallly crazy. Well, the right name is "globalblock-exempt", so it has to do with being exempt from global blocks. Whoever has that right is not affected by global blocks. Does that help at all? Cbrown1023 talk 01:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


Hi Cbrown1023, I wish to became more active on incubator, what can I do? :-) Thanks for help :-) --.snoopy. 12:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

incubator:I:LOUP and I:LP are good places to start, as is just watching Recent changes. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 01:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Agreement between chapters and Wikimedia FoundationEdit

Hi! I was told by User:Str4nd that I could contact you with a question about Agreement between chapters and Wikimedia Foundation.I'm the chair of Wikimedia Suomi/Wikimedia Finland and I would need to sign that agreement. Do you know if there is a PDF-version available of the document and who should I send it to once I have signed the agreement. Regards, Samulili 15:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure who to contact about this, actually – try asking Chapcom or Erik. Cbrown1023 talk 13:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


Casey, please, fix next messages:

Thank you :) Lvova 12:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

  Done, thanks. Cbrown1023 talk 13:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Fundraising - Lower case problems in TREdit

Hi! I understand that the slogans are lowercased, but this creates some misspelling in Turkish. Fundraising 2009/core messages/tr is still uppercase but the slogans published on Vikipedi are lowercase, so I assume this change is done somewhere else. How can we correct the mistakes in lowercasing? Would it be enough if I lowercase the slogans in Fundraising 2009/core messages/tr and it is then re-published? Or I may give you a list of correctly spelled slogans? İyivikiler... homonihilis // ileti 10:17, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please adjust them on that page if there are any issues. In a perfect world we would have updated that page, but there's been so many tweaks to the messages that there's been no time. :-( Cbrown1023 talk 21:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies if you took the "bullshit" for you. Nope, it is not oriented to you. But goodness... what a broken fundraiser. Anthere

It's okay, I understand and wasn't offended. Cbrown1023 talk 21:23, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Swedish translationsEdit

Per habj in #wikimedia, I've changed the Swedish translations a bit for one of the banners (see here and here). I'm notifying you in case some translation page needs to be updated or something. --MZMcBride 17:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Per Kaare in #wikimedia, just see my contribs in the MediaWiki namespace. --MZMcBride 17:16, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, they should actually be updating the translation pages themselves and then asking us to sync their messages... but that's just how it should happen... Cbrown1023 talk 21:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Posted at AZ about it earlier today (CET), but this one should probably be fixed as well - "probably" pending if it is used somewhere after a dot - if not it should definitely be all lowercase. Finn Rindahl 17:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Looks like it's been done. Cbrown1023 talk 21:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Nope, should be "for alltid", not "For alltid (unless it is used as a beginning of a sentence somewhere). Finn Rindahl 21:35, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh, okay, done now. Cbrown1023 talk 21:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


Please correct the following:

If they should be lower case then why they weren't lower case in the translation page? --Geraki TL 22:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. They weren't lowercase on the translation page because we ended up lowercasing them all after we launched and then "un-launched". People really didn't like the capitalization so we get rid of it. Cbrown1023 talk 22:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
It's not simple for all languages :-) (in greek we never use punctuation in all-uppercase texts).
There is still some banner with "Για Παντα" text (no punctuation).
The bannner from el.wikipedia leads to the english donation page, although there is a greek one. What should be done?
--Geraki TL 09:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I've fixed the link issue, please let me know if there's still a problem. What's the issue with the «"Για Παντα" text (no punctuation)»? Cbrown1023 talk 13:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
The link is OK now.
MediaWiki:Centralnotice-2009 Notice1-donate-text2/el, MediaWiki:Centralnotice-2009 Notice1 test-donate-text2/el and MediaWiki:Centralnotice-2009 Notice1 b-donate-text2/el should be "Για Πάντα" as in the correction you made above. --Geraki TL 15:14, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, should be good now. Cbrown1023 talk 15:18, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry but it still appears, it seems that you missed MediaWiki:Centralnotice-2009 Notice1 b-donate-text2/el. --Geraki TL 19:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, now it's good. ;-) Cbrown1023 talk 19:28, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Button targetEdit

Button "Donate" (donacu) in sitenotice in eo:wp opens support page in French ( )instead in Esperanto ( ). I don't wher to correct that. Could you do it ? Thx Arno Lagrange  12:13, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

That's because you're in France and get sent to the WMFR chapter page. If you weren't in France, you'd get to sent to the Esperanto page. If you had an American IP (i.e., you'd get sent to the eo page properly. Cbrown1023 talk 13:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
OK Thx Arno Lagrange  18:12, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Paypal redirectpage /nbEdit

Hi, (link doesn't work, but that's where my browser told me I was) now reads "Om du ikke omdirigeres automatsik, klikk på knappen for å gjennomføre donasjonen hos PayPal. " - this should be "Om du ikke omdirigeres automatisk, klikk på knappen for å gjennomføre donasjonen hos PayPal.", i.e. automatisk instead of automatsik. This is the page that redirects you when you're trying to give through PayPal, couldn't figure out where the source for that page was... Regards, Finn Rindahl 12:38, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey Finn, this is one of the things we're translating on Translatewiki (it's a MediaWiki extension). It looks like the Translatewiki team did something with the extension names... I don't know where that string is now, I'm asking. Cbrown1023 talk 13:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, found it and have fixed. Finn Rindahl 14:16, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Fundraising 2009/core messages/heEdit

Hi, can you please update the messages? Thanks, Yonidebest 16:00, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, also, I couldn't find where I change the current notice with the logo. It currently reads:

ויקיפדיה LOGO לנצח

while it should read:

ויקיפדיה LOGO למען הדורות הבאים

Thanks, Yonidebest 16:05, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I appologize. There seems to be a problem with user:Drork who reverted my changes not in accordence to clear consensus on he.wikipedia. I have notified the he.wikipedia community of his actions and they will decide what to do about it. Please don't change the messages until this is decided. Thanks, Yonidebest 18:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
These slogans have already been published. It is not the best practice to change a campaign's slogans after publishing them, even if they are not perfect. The translations were made by at least three native HE speakers who live in Israel. They were criticized on he-wp, but without a decisive suggestion for an alternative. I think it is irresponsible for anyone to introduce a change "out of the sleeve". Dror_K 18:14, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Fundraising 2009/core messages/alsEdit

Hi Cbrown

I've added the link to this translation today in Template:Translation/Fundraising 2009/core messages today morning, but still it's not published. Did I forget anything? Thanks, --Strommops ð 21:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Nope, you didn't do anything wrong. Sorry it's taking a while, but we're working through them as fast as we can. Some people have been waiting for days – don't worry, we'll get to als soon. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 21:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

mk translation needs updatingEdit

Hello. Although the mk translation is already published, I noticed that some things weren't translated, so I finished them, and it needs updating. This is the page: Fundraising 2009/core messages/mk. Thanks a lot! --B. Jankuloski 00:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Could you also tell me where I can find this "To give using IE6 or last year's form, please click here." - I can't find where to translate it, so it remains untranslated on the mk version. --B. Jankuloski 01:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
It's going to be on the missing strings request, however you can translate it now if you like – just put it on my talk page. Cbrown1023 talk 22:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Hebrew core messages againEdit

Hi there,

Please my message to you on Talk:Fundraising_2009/core_messages/he. It's all expressed there. I have sound reasons to believe I represent the consensus opinion of our community. Please respond to my request ASAP. Harel 17:43, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. Cbrown1023 talk 22:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. Can you remove the colon ":" in the following row:
Instead of:
ויקיפדיה: LOGO למען העתיד
Should be:
ויקיפדיה LOGO למען העתיד
If there is no logo between the words, then the colon should stay there, otherwise it should be removed. Thanks, Yonidebest 06:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  Done. --Az1568 (talk) 06:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC) messagesEdit

Please see Talk:Fundraising 2009/core messages/la‎--Rafaelgarcia 01:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Dear Chris, fellow user Neander completed all of the latin translations. Would you please publish them, please? Thanks--Rafaelgarcia 15:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Dear Chris, It seems that we are still getting some english titles across the top of our pages: e.g. "Number of Wikipedia articles (in millions)." I see this even if I completely clear out my cache in firefox.-- 18:29, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Should be fixed now. Cbrown1023 talk 23:06, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Dear Chris, I apologize for bugging you again, but we noticed that our only says "ready" instead of "published" and at the same time; the donation page remains in english. It would not bother me except that our Neander did put a lot of sweat into translating everything and after all that effort, it pains me that his excellent translations aren't being used. --Rafaelgarcia 22:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for this taking a while, I'm publishing translations every spare minute I have (for example, I did one minutes before running out the door for the airport). I totally feel the same way about the pain – it pains me too. I'm publishing it now. Cbrown1023 talk 00:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Done, the notices should now point to wmf:Support Wikipedia/la and wmf:Support Wikipedia2/la. Sorry again for this not being done as quickly as it should have been. Cbrown1023 talk 00:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Chris. It seems that the phase 4 translations (for the quotes) are not being used.-- 02:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
His name is Casey. We actually are using the phase 4 translations... in fact, I was publishing a few earlier today. We're a tiny bit behind on getting every translation posted, but we're getting there. --Az1568 (talk) 06:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about the name. But we are still getting english text on, e.g. “There is never a day without Wikipedia.” , even though it was all already translated into latin.-- 01:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Updating mediawiki, you fix?Edit

I tried to make some updated citenotices in Swedish and Norwegian,[9] but evidently I must have done it wrong since I simply edited the mediawikimessages. You fix? Finn Rindahl 18:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, now it's working - did I do something right after all or have you fixed something somewhere? Finn Rindahl 22:04, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
It should still work if you edit the MediaWiki messages, it's just not as cleaner. The Special:NoticeTemplate interface just makes things easier. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 01:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Please be careful when changing any settings for a running notice. We should simply be adding translations and validating them in the preview. There is no need to change the language on the notice itself. Tfinc 09:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


Hi there! I saw that you recreated this MediaWiki page. I deleted it per the talk page request see here. Perhaps you delete it? Kind regards --Barras 13:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

This is the reason that people aren't supposed to comment on random MediaWiki talk pages... the messages don't get seen and are all spread out. Toliño needs to update Fundraising 2009/core messages/gl with the proper text. It would also never say "A Meta" in a CentralNotice... which is another reason why looking at the MediaWiki messages themselves are bad. When the notice is displayed on Wikipedia, it will look like this. Cbrown1023 talk 23:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. --Barras 14:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Fundraiser 2009 Upper Sorbian (hsb) and Lower Sorbian (dsb)Edit

Hi Casey. I want to ask you when the core messages for fundraiser 2009 for hsb and dsb will complete. Centralnotice works for both languages but only the text. The links to are not correct. For Upper Sorbian WP a link target is used that doesn't exist and Lower Sorbian is using German WMF page]. Although the link target for hsb doesn't exist, a hsb WMF page does exist. But with some English words. For dsb such a WMF page doesn't exist, it is used, as already said, the German page instead. Dsb is not marked as published yet, although I've already marked it as ready on 2009/11/15. But the centralnotice works for dsb as well. The strings for the Donation extension have been translated on for both languages. Kind regards, --Michawiki 10:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

First of all, sorry for the delay. I'm glad to hear that the CentralNotice works fine for both languages — that was our first priority for all languages (it would be horrible to have you translate everything and then confront visitors to your wiki with English banners on all pages). I just published dsb, so everything should be good there. Hmm, the hsb issue was strange but should be fixed now. About the English words, we're going to create a new request for the phrases that were missing when things settle down.
Finally, about the Global Support page, that's because you live in Germany (or at least have a German IP) and get sent to the Wikimedia Germany page. For me, the page links correctly to hsb.
I hope this helps and sorry again for the delay! Cbrown1023 talk 23:45, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Fundraising 2008 messagesEdit

Regardign Estonian translation. Though translation request for these is closed, I see some of it being used in this year's fundraising and both, "alternative form" and wmf:Annetused, link to last year's pages. I've found a few language mistakes in core messages of 2008 and would appreciate these corrections being published if possible. Thanks! Pikne 11:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Besides, letter 'K' is missing here and here. Should be "Küsimusi või kommentaare". Pikne 12:36, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Should be done, thanks for your translation help! Cbrown1023 talk 21:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Tiny little addition: please replace line 26 too. Pikne 22:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Done. Cbrown1023 talk 22:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Despite {{SITENAME}} please use {{GRAMMAR:partitive|{{SITENAME}}}} here. Thanks!
As for update to supplimentary messages, I let you know that I received both, e-mail and message on et-wikipedia. Unfortunately I'm too busy to work on it now. Pikne 19:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Done. Also, about the supplementary messages, thanks, I understand. Cbrown1023 talk 19:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for not having the whole thank you letter translated into Estonian. If possible I'd would provide only the notice: ' Vikipeedia rajaja Jimmy Wales tänab '. Thanks! Pikne 07:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Az1568 did it a few hours ago, sorry for not leaving a note here! Cbrown1023 talk 20:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia missing site templateEdit

Could you take a look at Talk:Wikimedia missing site template? This, that and the other 06:44, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Messages in LatinEdit

I proposed some changes in the Latin phrases here and the author of the former version told me in his Latin discussion page that he agrees with these changes. But I don't know how to make them effective in the banners. I feel that you know how to do it. Thank you in advance. --Vermondo 21:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was away. Was this fixed? If not, just update the status to say "|la |ready" and then we'll republish it. Cbrown1023 talk 23:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
What does "update the status" mean? What should we do? (anyway, the changes are listed here)--Vermondo 11:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Okay, finally done. "Update the status" means click the little "+/-" at the top right of the status box and change "|la |published" to "|la |ready". Cbrown1023 talk 00:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Help in translating of the fundraising messagesEdit

Hi Casey!

I didn't participate the fundraising translation this year so I am a bit uninformed. There is an incorrect message on huwiki and I don't find it here :)

The incorrect message is „A Wikipédiára ott van, amikor szükséged van rá – most neki van szüksége rád.” The correct would be „A Wikipédiára számíthatsz, amikor szükséged van rá – most neki van szüksége rád.” as you can find it on Fundraising 2008/core messages/hu page (4. sentence).

Thank you for your help! Samat 23:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I think Dami already updated this: [10]. Is that better? Cbrown1023 talk 23:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
You are right, it is better now. Thank you again :) Samat 23:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, BrownEdit

I'm a user of ko.wikipedia. I found some errors in the translation of Fundraising 2009/core messages/ko. So, I tried to make some changes, but it doesn't seem to be actually changed. What can I do to update a published version of translation? adidas 02:28, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey Pudmaker. The messages don't get updated automatically, we have to manually publish them after you update it on the Meta-Wiki core messages page. I'll do it now, but in the future could you update the status to "|ko |ready"? (Hit the +/- in the box at the top right.) Cbrown1023 talk 23:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

update request about Fundraising 2009/appealEdit

please update ko.appeal to newer version of Fundraising 2009/appeal/ko

current version have a few meaning errors and weird expression in korean.

thank you! ToePeu 04:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Done, thanks for correcting the translation! In the future could you change the status template to "|ko |ready" when you need a translation republished? Thanks again, Cbrown1023 talk 23:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Frundraising [es]Edit

Hello Cbrown1023. I've been making some changes here per request by some users (style, grammar, etc). As this is the seccond time I use that page, could you please review my actions?. Thank you, — Dferg (disputatio) 01:02, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me! Did you update the core messages page too? Cbrown1023 talk 23:31, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that page was updated too. Best, — Dferg (disputatio) 00:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Awesome then, thanks! Cbrown1023 talk 02:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Fundraising proofreading roEdit

Hi, Brown! I have proofread the translations from Romanian version of the messages. I've set the status to "ready". Have a nice day. Firilăcroco discuție / talk 16:19, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Firilacroco! I published it the other day but forgot to respond here. :-) Happy holidays! Cbrown1023 talk 21:52, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Cloak requestEdit seems down, so apparently I'm meant to ask you for a cloak. My understanding is that wikipedia/Josh_Parris is unacceptable, so how about wikipedia/JoshParris? I'm normally on enwiki. Josh Parris 06:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Can you message me on IRC? I'm kibble and am almost always online. Cbrown1023 talk 21:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

please updateEdit --Sadik Khalid 09:17, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

  Done --Az1568 (talk) 18:19, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Sadik and Alex. Sadik, in the future could you please update the status to |ml |ready when the translation needs republishing? Cbrown1023 talk 20:37, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Romanian version of the personal appealEdit

Sorry, I hurried up putting it directly on the foundation Wiki because the campaign is going to end soon. But I will do that in the future. Merry Christmas! --Danutz 17:53, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem, thanks Danutz. Merry Christmas to you too. ;-) Cbrown1023 talk 19:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Updating the appeal in DanishEdit

Please update the Danish version of the personal appeal as soon as possible. The new text has gone through a spell check and has better wordings. — Froztbyte 01:32, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

  Done Thanks Froztbyte! --Az1568 (talk) 01:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Fundraising translations bsEdit

I don´t know who had make those translations, but they look like machine translations. Can you give me a link to the banner messages, I just can´t find them on meta? Are they on translatewiki? --WizardOfOz 02:16, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you talking about the meter translation "Hvala što se podržali Wikipedia."? It was pulled from last year's core messages translation request (#110). If you have an improved translation for it, I'd be happy to update the banner. :-) --Az1568 (talk) 04:35, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes please update. Translation request line 110 thank You dont say Wikipedia, but Wikipediju. So update to "Hvala što se podržali Wikipediju." THX --WizardOfOz 07:53, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Updated. Thanks! --Az1568 (talk) 08:23, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

banner, HungarianEdit

Hello! One of the banners says "Köszönjük, hogy támogatod a Wikipédia." in Hungarian, although the proper form would be "Köszönjük, hogy támogatod a Wikipédiát!". (WIkipédia is the subject of the sentence, therefore it takes a -t suffix.) Could you please correct that? - Xbspiro 21:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

  Done. --Az1568 (talk) 21:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Proof readingEdit

I have proof read the at requested. Regarding your other message. I will try my best as time is available. --WikiCantona 12:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks WikiCantona! Cbrown1023 talk 14:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for the quick synchronisation of the main template ! =) -- FoeNyx 14:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


Hey Casey  , please add for me flood flag, I'm flooding the recent changes. -- @lestaty discuţie 21:54, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I looked into it, but we can only give the flood flag to ourselves. I'd have to give you the regular bot flag -- is that what you want? Cbrown1023 talk 00:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Donation - skEdit

Hi! Can you refreshíspevkov (old version) by new version ? Thanks --Tommyv580 11:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for translating it, Tommy! Cbrown1023 talk 14:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
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