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Moving The Africa Narrative to the AfroCreatives WikiProjectEdit

Dear Translation Admins,

Please I would love to rename/move https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Africa_Narrative to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject while retaining the subpages across the translations it currently exists on.

If you would also deem it fit as per my role as a Wikimedian in Residence at the Africa Narrative to have the translationadmins user-level access, I will be glad.

I appreciate your time in helping out with this and every other thing you do for the Wikimedia projects.

Danidamiobi (talk) 14:11, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Done, along with subpages The Africa Narrative/Countries and The Africa Narrative/Participate. --MF-W 22:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
@Danidamiobi. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 22:17, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much MF-Warburg. I am so grateful. I would be so glad if the Discussion and these could be moved too:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/The_Africa_Narrative/Volunteers
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/The_Africa_Narrative/Countries
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/The_Africa_Narrative/Resources Danidamiobi (talk) 07:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
If you click on these links, you'll clearly see they were already renamed. --MF-W 18:31, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much @MF-Warburg.
Please, can you help me mark this sections for translation
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Volunteers#Local_Organizers and all sections of these 3 pages so the volunteer editors can start translating.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Afro_Creatives_WikiProject_%2Bfilm
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Resources
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:AfroCreatives_WikiProject
Thank you so much. Danidamiobi (talk) 18:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I've marked the middle two pages for translation. For the first page it's not clear why a list of names needs to be translated, and for the last page it's generally against convention to make talk pages translatable. * Pppery * it has begun 03:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
@Pppery Thank you very much.
- The list of people's names are actually the list of local organizers. We still want to replace one more name there and I noticed removing that name was only reflecting on the English translation and not the rest. So if we add or remove a local organizer on the English Meta, we want to be able make that update on the other languages as well.
- For translating talk pages, can you help mark only the text paragraph or could you kindly advice the best practices for multilingual projects of this kind?
I appreciate your time. Danidamiobi (talk) 08:07, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
For the first page: I seem to have misunderstood you; anyway it appears Ameisenigel's already handled it.
For the talk page, I'm not following what you are trying to do. Is your intent just to translate "Have a question? Want to start a discussion? This is the place.", or also to translate talk page comments? If you are doing the former, the typical approach is to have the talk page transclude another translatable page, which I would be happy to set up. * Pppery * it has begun 13:21, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I can't stop saying this.
You are spot on. I meant just to translate "Have a question? Want to start a discussion? This is the place."
Please, could you also help me mark this section for translation?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=AfroCreatives_WikiProject/Afro_Creatives_WikiProject_%2Bfilm&action=submit#New_to_editing_Wikipedia?
Ameisenigel's has not marked the list of volunteers for translation as we still can't remove #Ceslause# from the list of the volunteers in French and Arabic.
Thank you. Danidamiobi (talk) 15:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
I've marked AfroCreatives WikiProject/Afro Creatives WikiProject +film#New to editing Wikipedia? for translation. The rest of what is going on here is too confusing for me, so I'll back out an let another translation admin watching this page handle it. * Pppery * it has begun 17:06, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
The talk page thing needs to be handled with templates, if at all. For now, I'd suggest to refrain from making more pages translatable and instead to focus on actually putting content into them (e.g. AfroCreatives WikiProject/Resources is still empty). --MF-W 12:27, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
I’ve set up Talk:AfroCreatives WikiProject for translation, but reworded the first paragraph to avoid the self-link, and dropped the second one, as thanks to DiscussionTools manually signing the messages should no longer be necessary (at least not for the vast majority of junior users, and seniors should already know to sign their messages). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Actually, each change in source page must be marked for translation to apply to translation pages, whether it is inside translate tags or outside them. Content inside translate tags should then be manually updated by translators, whereas content outside translate tags is automatically updated by FuzzyBot. That’s why we do not include usernames inside translate tags: this would require translators to manually update each translation page, whereas FuzzyBot could update them automatically. --Pols12 (talk) 21:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Translation pages not updating after content deletion - T312293Edit

Tracked in Phabricator:
task T312293

It would appear that once a translation is deleted (e.g. Translations:Mailing lists/Overview/2/id) the corresponding main translatable page (Mailing_lists/Overview/id) is not immediately updated. This is not the usual behaviour, as the JobQueue(?) used to propagate the changes pretty quickly. I've filed task T312293 to inform of this. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

I have a hunch that the issue here is that all language=id translations for that page have been deleted which in turn means that the Translation extension has lost track of the fact that there once were language=id translations which produced Mailing lists/Overview/id. I will add this theory to the phabricator bug report too. -- BDavis (WMF) (talk) 22:02, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Translations reviewEdit

I'm quite an active translator here on Meta. My question is, how can I get my own translations reviewed? Or is this not possible? Thanks for your help. Lois131 (talk) 09:59, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

You cannot mark yourself your own translations as “reviewed”. Anyone else can do it. Or, if someone edit your translation, you can then mark it as reviewed. -- Pols12 (talk) 13:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@Pols12 Thanks, okay. But then it's what's above the translations on the left: State: In progress, Needs updating, Proofreading, Ready, Published. I usually mark translations as Ready. Thanks :) Lois131 (talk) 15:22, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
That’s okay. Actually, I believe this feature is rarely used. -- Pols12 (talk) 15:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
I do quite often. Because there are few active translators in Hungarian, and I see that translation is going slowly. My time is limited at the moment, but I will have more time this weekend. Lois131 (talk) 15:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Translation moves, againEdit

For reference, I have found yet another failed/incomplete translation move at Wikimedia Slovakia User Group/Reports/2013/Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2013 (see Special:Permalink/18074873#Move_of_Wikimedia_Slovakia_User_Group). Since I have had some experience with this kind of issue from the two or three times it has come up before, I was relatively confident with it already; however, this time, due to an additional complication I did make a mistake which can be seen at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedians_of_Slovakia/Reports/2013/de&action=history. This was because user AdiGHustler19 had posted a set of Slovakian translations onto a /de subpage, and while I had noticed that, I accidentally used the same script to move those translation units to match the new article title still with the /de suffix even after specifically excluding them to handle later at first. Noticing it midway, I then just deleted the unit pages (both the ones I had already moved by accident and the ones the script hadn't reached yet) which already had a translation at Wikimedians of Slovakia/Reports/2013/sk by a different user since the (actually) German translations of AdiGHustler19 appeared to be low-quality in a set of cases; the remaining translations by the user I moved to the correct /sk titles manually after marking them fuzzy. Sorry for the inconvenience; everything should be fixed now. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
16:12, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Oldest pages needing changes marked for translationEdit

Since the pages with pending changes backlog is starting to get out of control again, reposting Meta_talk:Babylon/Archives/2022#Oldest pages needing changes marked for translation

  1. User:Guillaume (WMF)/sandbox, since March 27, 2021
  2. User:APatro (WMF)/T165128 TestPage, since February 3, 2022
  3. Wiki Project Med/App, since April 8, 2022
  4. Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/2022-04-21 Conversation with Trustees, since April 25, 2022
  5. Wikimedia CEE Spring, since May 15, 2022
  6. Wikimedia CEE Spring 2022, since May 15, 2022
  7. Wikimedia Language Diversity, since May 22, 2022
  8. Template:Doppelganger, since May 31, 2022

(Feel free to ignore the user pages at the top, listing them only for completeness' sake)

* Pppery * it has begun 21:15, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

June 2022:

  1. Community Insights/Frequently asked questions, since June 2, 2022
  2. NDEC Wikimedia Bootcamp 2022, since June 3, 2022
  3. Content Partnerships Hub/Background, since June 3, 2022
  4. NDEC Wikimedia Bootcamp 2022/Schedule, since June 4, 2022
  5. WikiConvention francophone, since June 5, 2022
  6. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit, since June 7, 2022
  7. Wikimedia Canada, since June 7, 2022
  8. Global blocks, since June 8, 2022
  9. Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee, since June 9, 2022
  10. Steward requests/Global permissions/Header, since June 11, 2022
  11. No open proxies, since June 11, 2022
  12. Hubs/Ongoing, since June 11, 2022
  13. Wiki Loves Literature, since June 12, 2022
  14. Wikidata, since June 12, 2022
  15. Grants:Conference/Preload, since June 23, 2022
  16. Grants:Regions/CEE and Central Asia, since June 26, 2022
  17. Grants:Project/Rapid/Bachounda/Arabic Hub - regional community support structure, since June 27, 2022
  18. Template:Content Partnerships Hub/Header, since June 30, 2022

* Pppery * it has begun 15:43, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Next up:

  1. Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2022-2023/draft/Your Input, since July 1
  2. Communications/Organization communications translators group, since July 1
  3. Wikimedia Enterprise, since July 4
  4. Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos/Resources, since July 5
  5. NDEC Wikimedia Bootcamp 2022/Reading, since July 8
  6. Talk:Campaigns/Foundation Product Team/Registration, since July 8
  7. Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/2022-07-14 Conversation with Trustees, since July 11
  8. Wikimedia Navigator User Group/Annual Report, since July 11
  9. Oral Culture Transcription Toolkit/Interview Questions, since July 12
  10. Grants:Knowledge Sharing, since July 12
  11. Wiki Loves Africa 2022, since July 15
  12. Wikimedia South Africa, since July 15

Thanks. * Pppery * it has begun 14:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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