User talk:Kylu/archive

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Leave me a note

I don't bite much.  ♥ ~Kylu (u|t) 03:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Note to self:

Posting by newcomers should be limited, but not banned - also restrict "move" to editors? 207.145.133.34 16:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikimatrix maintainance

Current projects:

• Checkuser Privacy Done
• Arbitration Committee Done

~Kylu (u|t) 02:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Woohoo! ~Kylu (u|t) 20:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

• also: updates for the following projects:

Wikibooks

Wordforge

pl wp? I forget if I registered this or not. o.o;; nope.

register an account for jp... Done

testwiki

bugzilla (somehow)

Deny affiliation with species, until I can get my username taken back from the vandal. :P

incubator

• remove matrix from other sites, just put a direct link to meta. Then, meta always has updated matrix! yay! 207.145.133.34 23:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Done ~Kylu (u|t) 04:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Chatter here

• Talk:Copyright wishlist - About insane traffic. 207.145.133.34 13:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Well a bunch was just me fixing stupid formating. :P Nyarlathotep 14:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
    • ia! The formatting is still insane, but so's the traffic. Looks like everyone picked it up from slashdot and digg. Looks like when someone asks, "Man, I've got this spare hundred mil, what do I do with it?" that it gets people's attention. :D Poor Kylu. 207.145.133.34 17:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Halloween!

Hope yours is the greatest!

Bastiq▼e 04:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Cute! I'm busily working on translating some stuff on commons for you. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 04:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Toolserveraccount

Hello Kylu/archive, please send your real-name, your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to . We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB.

Sent. ~Kylu (u|t) 03:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Steward Elections 2006 Info

• Stewards/elections 2006-2
• Diet steward. All the stewardship, half the calories!
• Steward policies
• No, I don't plan to run. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 03:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for the Matrix :-)

Hey Kylu. Thank you so much for the Matrix! It looks amazing! I'm linking it in my user page here, and maybe even in my userpage on enwiki :-) . Cheers, Redux 10:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Glad ya like it. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 20:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Mail

Please check your e-mail. --Ghirlandajo 18:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Read and replied. Thank you. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 22:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Interwiki account

Hi Kylu,

Here's my interwiki list;

• en - User:Alison - sysop
• ga - User:Alison
• simple - User:Alison
• fr - Utilisateur:Ali-oops
• nl - Gebruiker:Ali-oops
• meta: User:Ali-oops
• wikichix - User:Ali-oops
• en.wikt - User:Ali-oops
• en.wikiquote - User:Ali-oops
• mediawiki.org - User:Alison

- I think I caught them all :) Thanks again! - Ali-oops 07:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Done ~Kylu (u|t) 19:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but ...

Loved the edit summary for Ali!! --Herby ^{talk thyme} 19:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, so'd I. :D ~Kylu (u|t) 19:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

You're both kind of weird, actually. ++Lar: t/c 21:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

o.o;; ~Kylu (u|t) 23:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that is a compliment in my book - thanks Lar! (I'm guessing "League of Gentlemen" has not crossed the Atlantic - not sure you could explain it to them anyway!)--Herby ^{talk thyme} 09:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

en:LXG ? 207.145.133.34 13:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

w:The League of Gentlemen - way weirder! You need to be seriously warped to enjoy it... --Herby ^{talk thyme} 13:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

You probably think you could beat me at Mornington Crescent, don't you? ANYWAY, I've sorted the underscore thing in the hardcoded wiki matrix line template. ++Lar: t/c 15:17, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

So you do have good taste after all - Samantha is great you know (sorry Kylu - if you get tired of the kids playing give us some money and we will go away - if not your page gets nuked!) --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Lar: get the 'c' thing for commons on the matrix sorted also? BTW, there's some severe sh** on enwiki. Join wp-e-a pls. ~Kylu (u|t) 23:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

No, because the pattern is different for those, I need to think more about what to do. I did see the kerfluffle about that, as you know. Also, sorry I've been a bit AWOL, my primary computer started having hardware fits. ++Lar: t/c 14:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's sorted now... at least for commons and meta. Not sure about the rest. I need to do the counter stuff and then will move it. ++Lar: t/c 22:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I put up a request [1] on the interwiki talk page for the shortcut, leaving it in the hands of the developers and meta-admins to figure out how/if/when to do it. I like the shortcut, but we'll see if anyone does anything. ~Kylu (u|t) 16:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I saw that. However I think it takes a bugzilla entry, those sorts of WMF internal shortcuts are specialcased. They are NOT something that gets put on the interwiki list and the devs don't pay attention. However that is only marginally relevant. Here's why...

The foundation wiku matrix row template makes teh assumption that all wikis allow you to get to the user_talk page by saying de:q:User_talk:User1 for example (where de: is the language passed in and q: is the wikitype passed in). This fails for commons as en:c:User_talk:User1 is not a valid link. (meta too) It also makes the assumptino that all wiki long form names (used for special logs) using the same example are of the form de.wikiquote.org (where wikiquote is decoded from q passed in) This also fails for commons. (meta too) Hence in my matrix I just use the hardcoded matrix template for commons for now. I have to better special case commons and meta (and foundation etc etc) since they have urls of the form mumble.wikimedia.org (where mumble is commons/meta,etc) rather than lang.wikitype.org ... alles klar?? To fix it takes better IFfing in the templates than is currently there.++Lar: t/c 18:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

PS, why did you copy the template instead of just up and move it? Now there are two versions. :) I may once I fix it, move on top of it. have you used the other one in anything yet? Also I don't like the name much, it's not specific enough, I think we should go with WikiMatrixLine instead of just Matrix. :) thoughts? ++Lar: t/c 18:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, my idea with c: was to make it an external-wiki shortcut, like how we use MeatBall: and such now, this way you could use the c: commons shortcut from anywhere directly, but it wouldn't work with all the strange meta-interlink-things we use now (like, wikt:en:w:fr:blahzomgmakeitstop).

As far as the matrix template goes, maybe MatrixLine or something, but I think WikiMatrixLine is a bit long. As far as just moving your page goes, though, I'm a bit loathe to do that with someone else's userspace. Call my nutty. I'd just say, move your improvements to the central one then rename it. You have my permission to merge-and-delete my contribs if you'd like, I'm not that stuck on gfdl pickiness yet. :D ~Kylu (u|t) 20:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

OK. ++Lar: t/c 03:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Re "c:" ... see Talk:Interwiki_map#Shortcut_proposals which has been sitting there since Feb-ish. I ignored it because I didn't understand it. ++Lar: t/c 04:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Saving it for until I get +sysop? ~Kylu (u|t) 23:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

best that you go slow on fiddling there, as once something gets in there it is hard to get back out again... a lot lot lot of wikis pick it up... but ya. ++Lar: t/c 00:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You are too kind!!

Kylu, :-) Wow!! A very pleasant surprise, indeed. When you get time, if it is not too terribly much trouble, could you please add wikiquote. That is the site where I edit the most after Wikipedia-en. Thank you. FloNight 03:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Matrix...

Thanks very much! :) It's very nice and it's on the actual userpage now, I tweaked it a teeensy bit. Hope all's well :) riana_dzasta 07:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Sysop rights

Hi Kylu,

Per this unanimous decision, you are now a sysop. Please add yourself to Template:List of administrators. Thanks, and good luck! Majorly (talk) 00:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Okie dokie, thankew. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 01:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Aww, I didn't notice your RfA in time to support -- but it looks like it was unanimous anyway =) Congratulations! --Krimpet 05:11, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!! A fine showing, indeed. :-) FloNight 13:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Thankew thankew! Flo, you know you can transclude the matrix onto your userpage if you want, right? ~Kylu (u|t) 02:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Template:Rfp-request

Thanks!

I could possibly add a "Clerk's Note" field, but that may overcomplicate the template. I'd say do as we were, but either way is fine with me :) Thunderhead 20:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I tried to add an optional Clerk field on the template, but the Parser Functions wouldn't let me :-( Thunderhead 22:06, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

awmm, you broked it. ~Kylu (u|t) 22:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, it was the extra straight brackets that did it :-) Thunderhead 22:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Spam issue

When you have a moment could you look at this - I'm trying to pick up threads as the other regulars don't seem to be about at present - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Comment removal

Well, it may not have been an attack, but I personally feel that it meritted removal. This was, of course, my personal feeling, and you (along with anyone else) are welcome to restore the comment at your discretion. Thunderhead 16:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it didn't meet English Wikipedia's civility policy as close as we'd like, but when you're dealing with veteran editors, a little bit of leeway is expected. Ja mata. ~Kylu (u|t) 21:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Permission request

Hi Kylu. Thank you for your comment on my request for permission at the Hawaiian Wikipedia. I was not aware that stewards do not grant permanent sysop access on projects that do not have a real community. Still, do you think it would be a good idea if I create a requests for adminship page at the Hawaiian Wikipedia, place my own request there and await for eventual feedback? Regards, Húsönd 02:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I've made a haw:Wikipedia:Bots for you already, this would be a good move. Considering the traffic, I'd suggest a... oh... two month window for comments. I don't see why you couldn't get an extension however. ~Kylu (u|t) 03:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Just an update, I've gone ahead and promoted the waiting bots on haw.wiki for ya. Later. ~Kylu (u|t) 07:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Uyghur Wikipedia

Hi Kylu,

When you placed this comment "4/1 local election", does it mean that Barat's request does not meet the criteria for temporary sysop?

Regards, --Jose77 23:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Nope, the Stewards have to make that call. I'm simply stating the results found on the election page. 80% approval, though, is higher than required on most wikis. ~Kylu (u|t) 03:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thai Wikipedia

Hello Kylu, thank you for taking care of bureaucrats process at Thai Wikipedia. I really appreciate your help. --Manop 19:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

De nada. ~Kylu (u|t) 00:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Blacklist

Thanks for the help. Can you please ensure that you log any request that you action. It may seem a nuisance however 6 months down the line if the rationale cannot be found it will end up de-listed - I know I've had to do that! Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 09:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Mea culpa! Didn't know we had one. o.o;; ~Kylu (u|t) 19:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm no longer trolling

I am no longer trolling here. So, why the tag? It's not like I'm "not welcome here", or anything --Ionas

It's always good to know who one is talking to, Ionas. Just pretend it's not there. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 04:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

"Clerking"

Your clerking of the various Steward related pages is tres helpful. Thank you very much. The only problem is that you're encouraging me to be lazy (theoretically we should archive our own requests after a bit, ne?... you always beat me to it!) ++Lar: t/c 22:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Mm, given how much the foundation pays me to do it, I feel it's my duty to do my best! (In case you're wondering, I think you and I are getting about the same pay...) Anywho, I figure I do enough "meta" (as in the prefix, not this wiki) activity anyway that I may well just specialize in it. ~Kylu (u|t) 22:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Username change

Hello, please change my username to Kasia1986, because Kasia is my original name, and Kate is english analog polish name Kasia. And..1986 is my brithday year. Best regards KatLos 00:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Err, I can't do it myself (not a bureaucrat here), but I've put your request in on the right page for you. ~Kylu (u|t) 00:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Done by Majorly. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

#wikimedia-stewards

Dungodung suggested that I ask you to add me to the access list on the steward channel, that way when I do my archiving it doesn't spam the poor channel. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 04:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. Have fun. ;) --Dbl2010 20:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Matrix

Thanks for the suggestion.--Poetlister 18:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

no prob. ~Kylu (u|t) 05:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Sysop request

Thank you for the info. This means that I can only obtain temporary sysop status. Is there any possibility for me to get permanent sysop status? Because, the original admin which is the only admin hasn't been online since maybe in 2006 0r 2007. The only available admin is Drini, but she's a steward not really an admin there. Plus, actually there are only one user active there i.e me. Its a dead wiki project. I want the sysop status to change mostly the messages, the main page name (since the word "halamang" is not Buginese) and I want to edit the monobook.css since I've come out for a better support for the lontara script. Kurniasan 17:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Section copied to your talkpage and replied there[2] I hope it is useful to you! ~Kylu (u|t) 01:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, you are now a Bureaucrat at Meta!

Your request for bureaucratship was successful and you have been promoted. It goes without saying that your fellow 'crats stand ready to assist you in any way, should you have any questions or concerns, and we look forward to working with you. Congratulations, and all the best wishes for your success. ++Lar: t/c 03:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank ya muchly. :) It's been a week already, though? How time flies! ~Kylu (u|t) 03:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! You'll be an excellent bcrat! :) Majorly (talk) 14:10, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm more likely to be the quiet and unnoticed kind of bureaucrat, but thank you. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 21:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

That kind of 'crat is the best kind :) Majorly (talk) 22:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Yayyy!! Congratulations, Kylu :) - Alison ^❤ 15:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks ali. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 20:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

mzm query scratchpad

• less than 3 revisions
• less than 10 bytes
• haven't been edited since dec 12 2007

USE enwiki_p;

-- using subquery
SELECT CONCAT('[[', page_title, ']] - ', page_len) FROM page AS P
JOIN revision as R ON page_latest = rev_id
WHERE
  page_is_redirect = 0
  AND page_namespace = 0
  AND page_len < 10
  AND rev_timestamp < '20071212000000'
  AND (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM revision WHERE rev_page = page_id) < 4
ORDER BY page_title;

-- alternative using grouping
SELECT CONCAT('[[', page_title, ']] - ', page_len) FROM page AS P
JOIN revision as R ON page_id = rev_page
WHERE
  page_is_redirect = 0
  AND page_namespace = 0
  AND page_len < 10
GROUP BY page_id
HAVING 
  MAX(rev_timestamp) < '2007121200000'
  AND COUNT(*) < 4
ORDER BY page_title;

untested -- Duesentrieb 22:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

also, import http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Database_queries ? ~Kylu (u|t) 15:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Works, thanks Duesentrieb. I'm going to have to remember the revision count subquery... ~Kylu (u|t) 23:27, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Note to self

• [3] temp bureaucrat for white_cat@testwiki, remember to remove it 16 Mar 2007. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

• also Cool Cat and Computer ~Kylu (u|t) 23:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

rfc

Hello, I would appreciate your opinion here based on the available info on the page. Thank you. Санта Клаус 14:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. There are issues of GNUFDL and attribution I expect the said admin to correct, but will not undo as per your advice. Many thanks. Санта Клаус 16:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I might suggest simply copying the revision history of the source page and putting it on a linked subpage yourself. ~Kylu (u|t) 16:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Some bugs after editing the messages

Hello, I'm from Buginese Wikipedia. I've done several changes for the MediaWiki messages, but somehow, the background of the edit page have become smaller. The problem is I cant really find where the bug comes from. I hope you could help or suggest me where can I find the bugs. Kurniasan 07:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look, though if it's not a div or span issue, I suspect it'd be a site css. ~Kylu (u|t) 15:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Owh, i didn't see that one. Thanks very much for your help. :) Kurniasan 09:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank birdy, she pointed out to me that the bug was probably in copyrightnotice. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 14:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Re; Category:Wikimedian matrices

Thank you very much for your guide.

I have followed.--pedist 19:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

zOMG!

You were fast!! :O This is my local account here, BTW - User:Ali-oops. Dunno if you can just rename :) Thank you so much - you're awesome :) - Alison ^❤ 01:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Like I posted on your enwiki page, you'll have to have steward assistance in completing your migration, since you started it before requesting the rename. They're friendly enough. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 01:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Kylu :) - Alison ^❤ 01:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

B Blacklist log

Weird - just done an FF upgrade thinking that might be it. I see yours in the history but I need this version to show 2008 entries. I'll maybe try IE or see what it is like tomorrow. The help is appreciated - thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 17:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I just moved to ff 2.0.0.13, which I suspect is the same upgrade, and don't have that problem. Try looking at the page from a different client, or purge the page from your cache? (if you're comfortable with firefox guts, click "about:cache?device=disk" in your address bar and search for the page entry, then navigate there in your filesystem browser (explorer, konqueror, whatever) and delete the pages. Or you could do the whole "delete my cache" thing, but I prefer to minimize damage, myself, especially given the five zillion megs of javascript I tend to keep loaded. You did try the &action=purge like I suggested, though? ~Kylu (u|t) 17:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Did the cleanup stuff but! Can you still "see" the whole page? Mine is cut off still & I'm getting a backlog of log entries (spammers have been busy!). If you can see it, can I "pass on" my log entries to you (pretty please!)? Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 14:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I can't see it normally, but I can though a different program, and can add your log entries. :) I'd note that I'm busy IRL now, so may not get to it for a little while, but certainly today! ~Kylu (u|t) 14:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Log stuff

Ok according to me those edits were made at the same time (yours & mine) - spooky!

Log garbage (you may have done the first I think)

\bautomarkhistory\.com\b see {/request|930716#automarkhistory.com}}

see {{/request|932959#Crosswiki_spammer_-_Israel_based_advertising.2Fmarketing_agency_spams_for_clients}}

\breizen-portugal\.info\b

\breizen-duitsland\.info\b

\bportugal-travel-guide\.info\b

\bviaggi-portogallo\.info\b

\bviagens-alemanha\.info\b

see {{/request|932959#Crosswiki_spammer_-_Israel_based_advertising.2Fmarketing_agency_spams_for_clients}}

\bportugal-travel-guide\.info\b

\bviajes-portugal\.info\b

\bviajes-alemania\.info\/\b

\bvoyage-portugal\.info\/\b

\bvoyage-allemagne\.info\/\b

\bviaggi-germania\.info\/\b

\bgermany-travel-guide\.info/\b

\bbaccara-forever\.de\b see {{/request|932959#baccara-forever.de}}

\bseguente\.com\b see {{/request|932959#www.seguente.com.2F}}

\bbursahalter\.com\b see {{/request|932959#bursahalter.com}}

\bprovenmodels\.com\b see {{/request|932959#www.provenmodels.com_and_www.vizads.com}}

Serious appreciation Kylu - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 14:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[4] I'm thinking that perhaps we should consider splitting the log page about now, what'cha think? ~Kylu (u|t) 15:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Got distracted - playtime on Commons :) Agreed & posted similar to VasilievVV. It will make finding entries a little harder when folk appeal but an annual log page should get too unwieldy? The help is appreciated - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:32, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

We could make a log-search tool on toolserver for it (or just do a search on Lucene...) ~Kylu (u|t) 15:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm a simple soul (!) I just use "find" in ff when I'm on the log page! However I am capable of learning simple new tasks so I will probably pick it up :) You are quite a bit more expert than me & again thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 15:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

And

\bkizilsungurdefender\.jimdo\.com\b see {{/request|933144#kizilsungurdefender.jimdo.com.2F}}

And mail en route - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 16:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Added, but I'll have to check mail later. ~Kylu (u|t) 18:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Hum interesting - if I just edit the whole page it is all there so it is just the TOC aspect that is the issue? Still think a split might be good though, cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi

no u --Charitwo 00:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Pathos won the bid, once he gets the cash together, we'll see what he wants to rename you to. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 01:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Azeri Wikipedia : Vusal1981

Have a nice day. Vusal goes beyond the limit of vandalism on wikipedia. Vusal created pages above 10.000 empty articles. See; *http://az.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akif_C%C9%99f%C9%99rov&action=history

• http://az.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onun_Taleyi_%281991%29&action=history
• http://az.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pill%C9%99k%C9%99n_%28%3F%3F%3F%3F%29&action=history
• http://az.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polad_Adalar_%281985%29&action=history

At the same time; Vusal here http://az.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%B0stifad%C9%99%C3%A7i_m%C3%BCzakir%C9%99si:Sabir&curid=54302&diff=246714&oldid=246693 and here http://az.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%B0stifad%C9%99%C3%A7i_m%C3%BCzakir%C9%99si:Sabir&curid=54302&diff=246714&oldid=246693 deletes the IP user's sign from the welcome message and put his own sign. Vusal's target is to show his name all the pages. Vusal owns the articles on wikipedia. Here he warns me because of the delete warning that I put (for licence and source), http://az.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%B0stifad%C9%99%C3%A7i_m%C3%BCzakir%C9%99si:Uannis&diff=188055&oldid=187676 here] he gets angry for the deletin warning on the articles that created by him and contains only one word and he wants me not to do this, here he derides me and he says to me Your future is very clear., here he menaces me to be blocked, here he says to me stupid, here he says to me vandal, here he says to me liar, here he says to me Armenian because, Azerbeijani people don't like Armenians because of Nagorno-Karabakh, here he says to me What do you imagine you are?, here he blames me that I write his name is in a discussion.

And Vusal, here returns to the bad version that contains aspersion to Armenian people. --Uannis 11:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Replied to at Requests for comments/User:Vusal1981. We'll likely need to get some third opinions from others who actually speak Azerbaijan. I'm good with languages, but not that good. ~Kylu (u|t) 21:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

si.wikipedia

Hi Kylu, sorry to bother You with this, but since You are sysop I wanted to draw Your attention to si:Special:Log/upload, the user si:user:Student.IRQUE.UOC uploaded crazy many images today, most (or all) with no licence/source. :'(

I saw You have left him a message not to do that locally, it seems it has not helped, could You maybe sort that out there please.

Many thanks for Your help, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið _(:> )=| ∇ 21:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Done, will contact you regarding this privately. ~Kylu (u|t) 04:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Err

Any chance someone as clever as you (:)) could look at the mess I made of this - the links are borked which kinda spoils the whole thing & I can't figure out how to fix it?? If not a pointer to anything? And sort of expecting an answer to the last mail... Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 07:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. You needed some redirects from the expected log subpages to where those subpages actually are. See Spam blacklist/LogPre2008/ANI‎, Spam blacklist/LogPre2008/request‎, and Spam blacklist/LogPre2008/start. ~Kylu (u|t) 08:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Serious appreciation - never thought in that direction & kept going round in circles. Stored for the future too - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

OK - so what am I fixing? Did I miss something? Equally I posted on Werdna talk - the new bot reported stuff screws everything up when a site is actually blacklisted I think (logging & the ability for normal folk to edit the page - I guessing he edited as a dev)? Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 07:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I haven't attempted editing via shell, nor do I think I'd like to... even API editing is a broken pain in the arse. I'd assumed you were going to a new archive format and simply hadn't fixed either the pagename nor the link, though if we continue to use linear file logs, just updating the link to point to the new section would work fine.

Actually, I suspect Werdna's using AWB. AWB edits lately have put in a couple bot-marker characters (FF FE FF FE I think?) into their edits for some unknown purpose. If you ask Lar, he'll tell you about one we just fixed over on Commons like that.

Anywho, I don't know how you want to structure the spam blacklist log pages, but if you give me an idea, I can help make your dreams a reality! :D ~Kylu (u|t) 07:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok - tried getting brain in gear (& maybe this should be shifted to the spam talk page but for now..). You said "archiving" at one point - as far as I know the archiving probably should continue in the same standard Meta format? As far as logging is concerned I thought that was sorted with the "pre2008" log page (the current one should do a couple of years hopefully)?

However there really is an issue (postings on Eagle's & Werdna's talk pages) with the new bot reporting format whereby, if a link is added to the list, the req talk page & the log become uneditable for normal humans. This to me is a real biggie - the logging is so important or stuff will just be removed on appeal as it is very time consuming to even find who added the link never mind why (am I rambling?:)) - thoughts welcome.

As to what the log "should" be I guess to allow listings to be "easily findable" really. Those dealing with appeals need to be able to do so in an efficient manner (IMO). In practice I don't have time these days to deal with both bot & human reqs here as well as work on Commons which is a place I love so I'm not sure quite where I will be fitting in looking ahead. Thanks for your support Kylu --Herby ^{talk thyme} 12:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

What I did with AWB on commons was to use it to save a list of links... I went to a page, generated the link list, deleted the links I didn't want (everything except links to user pages, I was developing a list of unique users), and did a save... I then tried to use that saved list as wikimarkup directly... AWB wrote some header chars which I didn't see. I don't think AWB is injecting weirdness if you use it to edit. The problem was from using an internal data file AWB generated for something else. And by the way, both of you should go see what it was I was doing, as the Commons approval poll results are disconcerting, at best. More comments wanted. ++Lar: t/c 12:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so what you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong) is that you copied the data from an internal AWB file instead of from a window in AWB, or am I completely wrong? ~Kylu (u|t) 20:27, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

From a file AWB generates... when you say "save list" (of page links) you get a file dialog box to save it under any name in any location, so I saved it as a .txt and edited it, grabbing the links (but not noticing the stuff on the front... No biggie really except odd. ++Lar: t/c 21:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You may want to leave Werdna another note about that, then. Perhaps he isn't aware that it's saving the extra characters at all? ~Kylu (u|t) 22:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Archives/logs - meh

OK - obviously confusion here & following up on the above as it was hijacked by Lar!). To me we have archives for the old discussion in full & logs to show what was put on the list with a link to the old discussion. Pathos appears to have decided to delete the main archive page which I have no restored. I see the two processes as quite distinct.

I'll not be around much for the next couple of days but thoughts welcome - cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 07:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Seems sensible, though to be honest I don't know if I'm much for the "archive summaries by month" there. Conversation in archives, and use the log pages for changes only, sure. ~Kylu (u|t) 23:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Odd...

I always thought you were a Steward :) Do you plan to run in the future? You would have my support ;) Anthøny 13:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I've gotten that a lot lately, not sure why. ~Kylu (u|t) 18:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Help

Hello, do u know how to remove the page title and the site sub on the main page or any page? Thanks in advance. Kurniasan 13:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Will reply on your talkpage. ~Kylu (u|t) 23:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

BL backlog

If you have the time can you take a look at this - thanks --Herby ^{talk thyme} 07:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm chatting with various CVN people, seeing if we can get some volunteers. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

usurp request on the Polish Wikipedia

Hi Kylu! If you still want me to rename you on the Polish Wikipedia, please request that your global account is deleted at m:SR/SUL and let me know either by commenting on your request or leaving me a note on my pl.wiki talkpage. Leinad 13:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

pl.Kylu has moved and you can move your user & talk pages. Leinad 20:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Dziękuję! ~Kylu (u|t) 21:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Toolserver request

Please look into this. Thanks, AP aka --Kelsington 12:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Answered on toolserver wiki. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks re JackMerridew TEMP

Thank you for your help with the usurpations. Two done, and one to go. I see you created your account on ru:wiki just for this issue; it is appreciated. I expect you know bits of the en:backstory re myself. I have some making up to do to the wiki community and I see interwiki activities as a way to do so. It has been very enlightening to look beyond the en:wp. Cheers, User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David 08:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Err, actually, I don't know any of the backstory at all. I'm one of those goofy people that think that nearly everyone (there are some sad exceptions) are redeemable here, if that makes any difference? But, it's no problem for me to help out. While my language skills don't allow me to be fluent in anything, I'm "eh" in a number of them: Enough so that I can, at least, get a good gist of nearly anything I run across. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 20:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

It would only make a lot of difference, if I were assuming otherwise ;-)

The brief version is that I'm blocked in en:wp pending an AC review. There is a list of past Arb cases here: w:User:Jack Merridew/History; nb; my block was re-instated per w:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive142#Jack Merridew. I certainly feel that I'm redeemable; indeed I feel the whole gamut of issues has been mischaracterized. I'm finding the whole non-en:wp-verse interesting. en:wp is, obviously, by far the largest project and as such it is where issues of scalability first manifest. The various other projects would do well to look, learn, and avoid some of the pit traps. Cheers, User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David 08:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

That's you? I'd ask you to do that "avoid Cool Cat" thing here too, and preferably vice-versa. I try to avoid him myself, even. I could expand on a number of users (and user groups) that could be better off by following the same advice, even. Enwiki's to the point where I tend to do minor maintenance work there and otherwise just attempt to watch it from afar: Far too easy to instigate drama in that environment anymore. Anywho, good luck, and keep up the good work. ~Kylu (u|t) 18:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Ya, it's me. And I do try and avoid him, although I note that there are several recent statements by him that he intends to seek another rfar with me. Moar Drama. The request on ru.wiki should be handled soon. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of wikis about and I've found that you don't need to understand the language to do good work. HTML, CSS, and wiki-markup are all in English; another case of systemic bias. Won't the NSA go nuts when powerful open source programming languages emerge with keywords et al in languages like Arabic. en:wp is, frankly, a cesspool. I'm finding the other wiki-communities far more civilized. I have a new theory as to the root cause; too many Americans (and I am one). Cheers, User:Jack Merridew _{a.k.a. David} 06:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The NSA won't care a thing: There are already programming and markup languages with non-English keywords. While managing intelligence analysis, the CIA might go bonkers trying to analyze the information, the NSA merely has to look for patterns... languages are plug-ins, inter-translatable with each other. I strongly suspect that they've already got an analysis layer for ignoring language variants in message processing. If they don't, I'll be quite surprised.

Other language wikis aren't much of a problem for me in a similar way. If you want the renaming page for (say) Arabic Wikipedia, go to the English Wikipedia and check the inter-wiki links for Arabic. While mangling in translation, Google Translate can at least often get your idea across, or at the very least allow you to get the gist of the message of the page you're seeing, then you can search for someone with the correct privilege and language skills. While I've lucked into broad (yet shallow) language skills, the same thing can be done by anyone who is merely comfortable with Wikimedia's setup.

As far as Cool Cat goes, really, if en.wp's causing issues... work elsewhere. Request that an arbitrator "stay on your case" and stalk you, so that if he brings up a case, it can be dismissed out of hand. If you'd like, offer to apologize to him and just attempt to ignore him. Really, if you consider any particular user to be a drama magnet, the best thing to do would be complete avoidance. While this may prevent you from working some interesting areas of the overall community, you may well find other interesting areas instead. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 04:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Enwiki rights

Oh, OK. I'll have you in mind :) Cheers, FiliP × 09:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey there!

Got some work for ya :) I see you're sysop on gvwikti - can you possibly move wikt:gv:Main Page to wikt:gv:Ard-ghuillag? What's happened is that the main page MediaWiki def has been translated over on Betawiki and the location doesn't apply any more. The result is that the main page has now disappeared!!!111!!One! Be sure to leave a redir for "Main Page" :) Thanks - Alison ^❤ 07:59, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I am? *looks* Well, look at that... okay, done. Glad to help ya out. ~Kylu (u|t) 22:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool :) Thanks!! - Alison ^❤ 00:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops - one thing, though. Can you do the usual prot on it, just in case? - Alison ^❤ 00:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

You protected the Main Page earlier, when I moved it, the protection moved also, so I protected the "Main Page" redirect also. ... wow, that makes no sense. o.o;; Er, anyway, point is your protection stayed in place. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

October 2008?

I think we should go ahead with your idea about limiting the confirmations to twice a year. I think we should have the next lot at the beginning of next year. Shall we start/continue that discussion somewhere? Majorly ^talk 23:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do! Kylu 00:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Two user pages on be-wiki

Yes, just exactly as you said. I think it is the best sollution. By the way, almost the same problem I have on ru-wiki: ru:Участник:Лешек Яньчук, and ru:Участник:Leszek Jańczuk, but on ru-wiki I had never two talks-pages. I lost only about 120 edits on ru-wiki (5 articles I created as Лешек Яньчук). Thanks Leszek Jańczuk 11:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

w:Wikipedia:Snowball clause

Can you do me a favor, please? Can you import the Wikipedia page w:Wikipedia:Snowball clause to this wiki? Snowball clause seems like an appropriate place / title. Thanks! --MZMcBride 21:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I've done this (good idea). Majorly ^talk 22:17, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Um, good work? Kylu 23:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

It still needs some work done (link fixing, images etc). Majorly ^talk 23:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Ping

See Help_talk:Unified_login#Usurping_accounts_on_wikis — Rlevse • Talk • 00:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

en.wb

Done  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 03:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! That was quick! :D Kylu 03:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Editing Template on gu.wiki

Hi Kylu,

You are most welcome for any suggestions and changes. In fact I appreciated your inputs and will definitely get in touch with you if I need any further help in future, but as you are also a user there on gu.wiki, may I ask you to please look at it and suggest me how can I make it better?

Regarding your message, you haev stated "You may wish to subst: your welcome messages" I coudln't understand what do you mean with that? Can you please explain?--Dhaval^Talk 13:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Replied on Gujarati Wikipedia. :) Kylu 19:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Well done! - delighted you were granted the bit :) - Alison ^❤ 04:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank ya kindly, ma'am... actually, it really does help quite a bit, I've found today! I don't know if you watch RC here or not, but the Meta Title blacklist can blacklist usernames now too. (Thanks to developer Krimpet for that!) Kylu 05:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

>_>

Will you feed me too?  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 17:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

You wait for a response, and if it's unproductive, remove the user. It could be he's got good ideals that are simply not yet tempered by the political reality: "We're a volunteer project. If you want it done, fix it yourself." I gave him the opportunity to put up, is all. Kylu 17:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:List of Wikipedias/Table

Dear Kylu. Thank you for the notification.

I am extremely sorry for the big trouble i caused to you and and the damage i caused to the page. All i did is to follow the explanation of updating the page described in List of Wikipedias#All Wikipedias ordered by number of articles by copying the information from this page and pasting them in List of Wikipedias/Table. I wonder if there is anything wrong in the procedure, or the cause is really technical in my browser. Anyway, i will stop editing the page unless necessary till i fix the problem.

I apologize again, and wish you to have a very nice day.

Regards, --Mhaitham.shammaa 07:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for the kind explanation. --Mhaitham.shammaa 02:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks

For dealing with the cross wiki spammer - if only global sysop had got through :(. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 06:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Seconded on both counts. Perhaps it will next time; we do have Special:EditWikiSets.  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 13:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Then I'd have to apply for global sysop too, though... Kylu 18:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help with Newyorkbrad's oversight access request. Pleased to see the efficient way that page works. Although it seems that our paths never cross any more, I think of you often when I look at the nice Wikimatrix link on my user pages. FloNight 16:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. :) Kylu 22:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Link

You mentioned to me there was a policy rewrite on one of our local projects. Do you have a link to it? Best, NonvocalScream 02:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

reply Kylu 03:00, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi.

I forgot how annoying this was. ;-) Jude(talk,contribs) 10:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey Jude, LTNS. :)

Did you mean "this" as in wiki in general, Meta, or something else? Kylu 23:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

See also "edit history". :-) Putting a smilie on the first line, it picks up the : as indentation. Jude(talk,contribs) 04:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

But you knew that already. :) My solution is to nowiki smileys if they're on the beginning of a line (or, better, just avoid putting them there...) Kylu 07:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Temporary Sysop

Hi Kylu,

I find myself requireing temporary sysop on Mediawiki to delete the automatic redirects that are created when I move pages, eg to a more suitable page name. I was wondering (since your a 'crat) wether you would be able to help with this? Prom3th3an 17:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

PS: please forgive the dodgy spelling, its 2:40 am :) Prom3th3an 17:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Do more than a couple pages and we'll talk. :) Kylu 01:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Renaming user:Wind_of_change -> User:Wind

Hi Kylu! Can you rename my account regarding to my old request? Wind 10:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

"Wind" changed to "Wind (SUL)"

"Wind of change" changed to "Wind"

Have a nice day. :) Kylu 20:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Username change request

Please can you rename user SunStar Net@kwwiktionary for me, since this account was registered by a vandal user. Thanks, AP aka --Kelsington 22:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Not done You need to request this at Steward requests/Username changes. I don't have access to perform that function for you. Kylu 01:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

How...

... can I withdraw my request for to be a global revert? Thanks! --RoyFocker 14:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Put this in the comment section:

*{{comment}} I'm withdrawing my request. It seems that at this time there is insufficient support for this to be successful. I plan on satisfying the objections raised here and gaining more experience before applying again. Thank you for your input. ~~~~

...or similar, however you'd like to phrase it. Just make sure you put in a thoughtful reason why, that way you don't give anyone reason to oppose the request if you choose to do so again later. Kylu 16:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I will continue my work on es-wiki and if I have time, in others... Thanks again!! --RoyFocker 06:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

IP

Hi Kylu

In recent days I have had to revert thousands of edits from the following range of IP addresses for negative contributions including vandalism on the pages of many eastern european countries, middle eastern countries, countless complex mathematic formulas and proofs insertion of pornography into the pages of articles including articles for children;s novels in addition to a attempt to promote vilification in the wikipeda pages for various ethnic groups such as Australian Aboriginals, Canadian Inuits and Mexican people.

This morning alone I must have reverted at least 100 or so examples of vandalism

The edits may be the beginning of a DDOS or a mass attempt to disrupt the workings of wikipedia and I request a temporary block be placed upon the following IP ranges:

1. 202.138.0.0 202.138.79.255
2. 202.138.192.0 202.138.223.255
3. 202.139.0.0 202.139.191.255
4. 202.139.224.0 202.139.255.255
5. 202.141.208.0 202.141.223.255
6. 202.142.32.0 202.142.63.255
7. 202.142.128.0 202.142.143.255
8. 202.143.48.0 202.143.63.255
9. 202.144.160.0 202.144.183.255

If you could help it would be appreciated greatly

Johnson Ng

Thanks for the info. I see Spacebirdy left a note on your talkpage about this, asking you for more information (where's this occurring?) The more info we have, the better we can help the individual projects. Thanks! Kylu 01:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:robots.txt

Would you fix anything which needs fixing? As well, if you have time, I've done files for commons and en.wb :D  — Mike.lifeguard | ^talk 19:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Note posted to the talkpage on commons with a suggestion. I gave my my admin-bit there some time ago. Thanks. Kylu 23:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello! from Ml wiki

lol, That is the transliteration table for the language, Malayalam. Nice to see you there. :) --Jyothis 04:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Kylu 06:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

October admin confirmations

Just to let you know that, per Meta:Admin#Poll after a year, your local rights on meta are up for their annual reconfirmation at Meta:Administrators/confirm. WJBscribe (talk) 21:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for starting it up for us. :) I do think we're running for two weeks this time, yes? Kylu 22:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Reply

Kylu, Regarding this, I'm not following you. I do think User:Dbl2010 has been inactive and should have +sysop removed. If there is more, please let me know. Thank you! xaosflux ^Talk 12:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Reply is at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Xaosflux&diff=next&oldid=246042952 ... long and short, I wasn't disputing the vote, just pointing out a typo. :) Kylu 02:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah thanks for the clarification, I went and made a minor edit to ensure that the typo fix is acknowledged as ok. xaosflux ^Talk 03:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Test Wiki Ping

Kylu, When you have a moment can you review my request at testwiki:Wikipedia:Requests#Xaosflux? Thank you, xaosflux ^Talk 13:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Somone else already did it, thanks anyway! xaosflux ^Talk 01:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that! I'm currently cheating to get online, since I'm supposed to be staying in bed getting over the flu. :( Hopefully I'll be back up to speed soon. Kylu 01:52, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

---->

Get well soon! To the bed now and don't forget to drink (I swear I don't have bird-flu and am innocent), --birdy geimfyglið _(:> )=| 01:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

TBL

\o/  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 02:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

New CUs

I undid your archiving: [5] because Roger Davies hasn't been turned on yet. I was doing them but Majorly felt I shouldn't so I let this one sit a few hours... log shows he's still not turned on. Cheers. ++Lar: t/c 06:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I've just read your talkpage. I don't quite see how the issue of your vote for Risker is a valid point at all, since the elections don't actually confer the authority: Jimbo's appointments do. If it were a direct election, I could see it somewhat. Personally, I'd think that an ArbCom member directing the stewards to set rights is a fairly clear-cut and uncontroversial situation, though I'd likely skip it myself. Perhaps it's time we make ArbCom appointments of checkusers and oversight part of the "clear cut" cases in steward policy, so it's not an issue in the future? Kylu 07:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Any slight COI is bad for a steward imo, especially since Lar supported so strongly. Is it that we've run so short of stewards that people are having to change rights on their home project? I don't think so. There's plenty of other stewards who didn't vote in the elections, so I think it would be better if someone else did it. That's just my opinion on the matter. I've spoken to other people who also agree with me about this. Majorly ^talk 08:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Kylu: I'd support clarifying steward policy to make it clear that carrying out the requests of ArbCom is not a COI, but the issue I have is that it's pretty obviously not a COI, already. Still, if it will prevent this sort of foolishness, I'm all for it. Majorly, how long did you want this fellow to wait? ++Lar: t/c 14:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you suggesting I'm a fool? Perhaps I am one for even daring to suggest the idea you might have a COI when changing rights.

Next time, you just do as you please. Majorly ^talk 19:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm suggesting that even the most sober sometimes act foolishly. To act foolishly does not make one a fool. Your initial query was fine... it was when you didn't let it drop that you verged into foolishness. And when you refused to stir yourself to go to IRC to find another steward to do the thing that you were so adamant I could not do (despite an arbcom clerk saying in the end that it was actually goodness that I was so fast) you compounded the foolishness. That doesn't make you a fool, though. ++Lar: t/c 23:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I've been travelling, and visiting relatives all day today, so had no chance to go on IRC. Anyway, this was my mistake, clearly. Won't happen again. I apologise for hounding you over it. Majorly ^talk 23:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I appreciate the clarification from the both of you, but COI or not, as his vote did not actually affect the outcome of the election (as it's advisory, not determinate) and the request was from ArbCom itself, I don't think the COI guidelines should apply in this case. It's rather like if you have a vandal make mocking usernames of you to vandalize with: While there is a technical COI (since he used your name, y'know) the actual outcome (indef blocking) is so uncontroversial it really shouldn't matter. Personally, I'd have avoided it, but not if it'd adversely affect the project in question. *shrug* Kylu 00:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Jimbo

The poll was a confirmation. His rights should now be removed. Majorly ^talk 15:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I disagree with the assessment, but you're welcome to perform the removal if you'd like. Kylu 04:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh

I'm going to take over as the archival bot ;). Razorflame 07:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I noticed you were doing some of it. I don't exactly intend to go slack just from someone giving me a couple buttons, though! Kylu 07:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you...

for watching and guarding de.wikiquote now and then! --Hei ber 20:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure. :) Kylu 02:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Global CSS and JavaScript (Synchbot)

Hello Kylu. You now have global CSS and JavaScript using /global.css and /global.js respectively, as you requested. —Pathoschild 06:43:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Tak! Kylu 09:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Credentials

Hi Kylu, I've replied to you on my user talk.Proabivouac 03:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Kylu, as we seem to be getting nowhere on the credentials discussion, I'd like to move on for now, and discuss the best way to address the other situation. I've asked after this on my user talk page.Proabivouac 00:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Hum

You have the "patience of a saint" IMHO but I can't find a barnstar that says that! Thanks for all the work :) --Herby ^{talk thyme} 11:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Please stop editing the comments of others (2)

Hi Kylu, I see in one new Requests for new languages about the changing of sign. So, I want to contribution to all Requests for new languages. Just that all. Thanks. If I make a mistake just send me a message to me. Deo Volente, Kylu. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 03:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations on your election as a Steward! - Amgine/^{meta wikt wnews blog wmf-blog goog news} 01:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanka thanka. Now if I can just get through my term nice and quiet... :) Kylu 01:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well, Kylu. :-) You deserve it. Dcoetzee 18:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Request

Can I edit this page? Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 04:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You'll need to request temporary adminship to edit that page. Click on the "Rights" link above and file a request. Kylu 04:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Then I put on this "Requests for regular adminship". Is it correct? Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 04:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

No. Scroll down more. Kylu 04:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I think temporary adminship just to edit that single page is unnecessary. Mikhailov should simply request what he wants to change on the talk page, or the page should be unprotected. Majorly ^talk 22:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Quite right, but I was under the impression he wanted to run for adminship eventually, anyway. Personally, I like the /temp sync method of editing protected pages. Kylu 23:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Um, why don't we just unprotect the page? Or reduce it to semiprotection only for a bit? --MZMcBride 22:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Mistake?

<StewardBot> (self) Kylu changed user rights for Kylu@enwiki from checkuser, sysop to (none) with the following comment: Requested by user

 — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 03:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Not a mistake. Please see that account's userpage. Thanks for watching my back, though! Kylu 03:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

"Requested by user" makes you sound schizophrenic :P  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 03:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I was just kinda wondering what people would think if kylu@enwiki stated that it wasn't requested after all... :D Kylu 03:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

TBL

.*\:.* <newaccountonly>           # Comment: Bug in namespace alias coding,
                                  # please don't remove. Yes, it's a pain.

I guess the bug has been fixed. I'll let you decide whether we still want to block this sort of thing globally. If so, I'd perhaps recommend .{2,3}:.* instead.  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 13:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't personally have any preference, per se, other than I wonder how many potential bugs might be related to allowing other characters in usernames like that. We should likely get more input from others first. Is there a reason we should allow the character that outweighs possible future issues? Kylu 17:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Just some basic stats. Currently en.wiki has 9,166,868 users. 2,249 contain ":". The more you know. --MZMcBride 22:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Then please feel free to correct the regex, remove it, or otherwise action as you feel appropriate. I know enough to write one to prohibit that specific character or remove it, and I would appreciate it if those who know more about the subject than I would do the honors. Thank you. Kylu 00:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

• Please continue at Talk:Title_blacklist#Colon_regex if you would. It needs discussion. Kylu 00:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

SUL request: Aurora

Hi Kylu, I believe you're a bureaucrat on the MediaWiki wiki. Can you move the account Aurora on that wiki away? It has no edits. Thanks. ...Aurora... 15:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Done Kylu 00:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. ...Aurora... 04:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Uploader status

Hi Kylu,

I am attempting to add a photo to the Wikipedia article called "Cavity Magnetron".

I have taken a photograph and have uploaded an image called "Magnetron section transverse to axis.jpg".

I have used the sandbox to check that the amendment (namely the addition of the new photo to the Cavity Magnetron article) would work OK but I get a message saying that I cannot become an Uploader until I have made 10 edits. I suppose that I could attempt to make minor corrections to articles such as correcting spelling etc but this seems a bit of a waste of time.

I would therefore be grateful if you could change my status to Uploader so that I can add the image to the Cavity Magnetron article.

Many thanks, Pingu Is Sumerian

Hello,

I am not Kylu but I will try to answer (And hopy Kylu don't mind)

There is a Wikimedia project with the name Commons on that project we collect free images that can be used on all projects. If you go to Commons you can upload your images without having to do 10 edits first, that will mean you don't have to have a uploader status granted.

Please note that Commons doesn't accept Fair use.

Use this link to go directly to the upload page.

Best regards,

Abigor talk 22:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Upload on English Wikipedia is a bit silly: We can't add a permission without a local discussion, and local discussions on enwp are a minimum of a week, typically. That means that by the time the discussion passed (which is unlikely), you'd only have to wait for three days. Rather pointless to ask for it there, IMO. Kylu 00:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Oversight@es.wikipedia

Hi, Kylu. Thank you very much for your kindness and quick answer here. At you disposal, regards, --Lucien leGrey (m · es) 08:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Kylu 00:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

si:පරිශීලක:Singhalawap

si:පරිශීලක:Student.IRQUE.UOC විසින් තැනුණු si:පූංචි සීගිරිය ලිපියෙහි අන්තර්ගතය කොපි කොට තම නමින් si:බතලේගල නමින් නව ලිපියකට කවා පැරැණි ලිපියෙහි අන්තර්ගතය මකා දමා එහි බතලේගල වෙත යළි-යොමුවක් බහා ලමින් මුල් පරියේෂණාත්මක ලිපියෙහි සියළු ගෞරවය වංචනික ලෙස ඩැහැගැනුමට තරම් සැහැසි වීමෙන් හා තුච්ඡ ලෙස හැසිරීමෙන් si:පරිශීලක:Singhalawap ‍විසින් සිංහල විකිපීඩියානුවකු වීමට ඔහු නොසුදුසු බව මනාව ප්‍රදික්ෂිණා කොට ඇත. ඔහු නෙරපා දැමිය යුතු බවට යෝජනා කරමි.හෙළසෙබළ 15:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

You really need to talk to si:User:Lee about content issues. I'm really only there for technical support. Thanks! Kylu 00:55, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

BTW

Prezzie on the way ;) - Alison ^❤ 06:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! :D Kylu 07:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh look - is that J D H or M E - complete with wrinkled .. y'know ? ^_^ - Alison ^❤ 07:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Still got that cheese grater? Kylu 07:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

^_^ - Alison ^❤ 07:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

si:රාවණා රජ

මෙම ලිපියෙහි ඇති පරිදී වසර 6000 කට පෙර ලංකාව පාලනය කල si:රාවණා රජගේ උපන් දිනය ක්‍රි.පූ.5114 ජනවාරි 10 ලෙස දක්වා ඇතත් මිය ගිය දිනය කතුවරයා විසින් දක්වා නොමැති වීම අභාග්‍යයකි. මෙවැනි කෙප්ප ඇද බෑමට ඉඩ දී පරිපාලකයන් පසෙකට වී සිටීමෙන් සිංහල විකිපීඩියාවට යන කල කුමක්ද? Even in English article this Date of Birth of Ravana is not mentioned. I really do not know whether we know the date of birth of Dutugamunu? --ගෝඨයිම්බර 11:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You could just leave it out, if you can't find a source. Kylu 19:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Username changing

Is it possible to change a wikipedia username anonymously? (That is, in such a way that the community can't see the request.) That is, in a way that my request doesn't have to be posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Username_changes or at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Changing_username? (Which one should be used, if i should use one of those?)

Yes and no. While it's possible to request the change privately (assuming you can verify that you're you), keep in mind that the rename action itself will still show up in the rename log. While, technically, it's even possible to hide that, realistically it won't be done. If you'd rather have a different username and privacy is that important, your best bet would be to just start with a a brand new username instead. There's always something that ties a rename to its previous name, no matter how much people try to hide it. Kylu 11:13, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

SWBot5

Hello, could you please voice again on irc:#cvn-meta the RC bot?. Thanks! :D —Dferg (talk) 11:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. Kylu 15:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Input appreciated

Seeing that you've dealt with global policies previously, I'd really appreciate your input here: Meta:Babel#Creating a new global policy. Hope you're doing well. --MZMcBride 17:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Responded there. Kylu 13:44, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Sinhala Wikipedia - Mediawiki Upload form Translations ready

Dear Kylu. I have placed message on your talk page[Sinhla Wikipedia]. When you feel free can you fix it ?

Thanks--Asiri 10:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Done Kylu 16:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!!

Flood flag

Have you considered using the flood flag to mask your log actions in recent changes? You're flooding a bit now, and the names you're locking and hiding are quite abrasive or privacy-violative at any rate. Best wishes, —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Kylu is a bit busy right now. Prodego ^talk 07:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd apply it myself if need be. But Kylu seems to have done it. Thanks for that. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

No offense, but please post elsewhere for a little bit. The blue new messages bar messes with my aim, and I've a lot of repetitive work to do. :) Kylu 07:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Kylu, I know you've got stuff going on in rl right now, but I just wanted to say hi, I haven't spoken to you in a long time. Drop me an mail if you want to chat. I hope you're well, take care. :-) Dcoetzee 07:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Incidentally, I'm going to go tomorrow later to try to test out of some classes, so wish me luck. Kylu 04:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: si.wp

Thank you very much for make aware of this. I'll follow on this. If you can please tell me what are the pre requisites to be a Admin? --Asiri 10:02, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

You'll learn the tools easily enough. Just put a request on si:wikipedia:administrators and we'll vote. Kylu 02:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I made a request.Please vote me if I am good :) Thanks --Asiri 09:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the vote. I've seen some others also done same :) Thank you for all !!!.Any place to inform this or please tell me what next steps..? Thanks--Asiri 04:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Dear Kylu, Thank you very much! --Asiri 03:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation at Sinhala wiki

Hi Kylu, we have a lot of images that don’t have proper copyright tagging. Would it be possible for you to help us in deleting all the images that don’t have copyright information? --Lee 14:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Will reply there. Kylu 21:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Usurpations

Hello Kylu. The general form when moving an account User:xxx out of the way for a usurpation is xxx (usurped), not Usurped001. Just for future reference. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 01:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Kylu 02:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup!

Thanks a lot for being so quick! Now I can continue doing my "crat-things"... :-) — YourEyesOnly 04:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

de rien. Kylu 04:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Check user

Hi Kylu, You have a message in Steward requests/Checkuser#*khi người ta trẻ*@vi.wikipedia --minhhuy*= 04:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I've seen it and replied. No notification here is needed, but thank you for your consideration. Kylu 04:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

OK --minhhuy*= 13:11, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Rights

Please Kylu, give me back my rights on testwiki, I make my develop of gadgets. And if possible give me access on br.wikimedia I'm a vollunter of Wikimedia Brasil. Thanks -- @lestaty ^discuţie 19:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Done for testwiki, Not done for br.wikimedia yet. Waiting for Office confirmation. Kylu 05:56, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Statement required

You have blocked this IP http://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=78.55.13.171&blocks=true&lang= on a fake reason (i.e. vandalism) for a month. (see also http://i47.tinypic.com/2ex8u8p.jpg). I have decided to add your name to my collection of fakers. I think it's fair, to give you the chance to give a statement. But please note, that I might quote your statement in the next years. Mutter Erde 92.227.128.228 22:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

(Copied from User talk:Kylu/matrix (permalink))

You should update the tinypic .jpg to include the whole page, not just the commons contributions (See the toolserver link you posted), especially such links as the ones on enwiki, which was likely the reason for the block at that time as the original is incomplete and may be considered to be misleading. As the block has expired (though you could have posted an appeal here on Meta regarding it, prior to expiry) there's unfortunately not a lot that I can do to correct the situation if you feel the action is incorrect. Please remember that Wikimedia projects, including Meta, are published under the terms of the Gnu Free Document License, and that any quoted statements refer to the original source, preferably via diff-link. Have a pleasant day. Kylu 22:42, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

wikt:User:Opiaterein

Excuse me, but on Wiktionary Bureaucrats are able to remove admin rights. Shouldn't the desysoping be done by a Wiktionary bureaucrat? --Yair rand 23:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

No. I'll be blunt on the matter: Stewards are directed to take emergency actions regardless of local assets. If a project has local oversights and they fail to remove Jimbo's home address on a page, a steward can move in and remove such information, for example. Wiktionary bureaucrats are, of course, free to review and reverse the action if necessary. Thank you for your concern regarding the matter, however. Kylu 23:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Can you please point me to the relevant meta policy enabling stewards instant desysop on large communities on the basis of their own loose, subjective judgment? I can't see how your analogy with oversight is relevant or applicable here. --Ivan Štambuk 06:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm quite busy feigning inactivity due to off-wiki overbusiness to reply to you on the matter at this time.[6] You'll forgive me if I let someone else answer your question. Kylu 22:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Steward Policy, obviously.  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 23:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Yair and Ivan: In emergency situations, there may not be time to a) see if the local crats are able to desysop and b) find out who the local crats are and c) find one. Kylu's judgment is sound and I think you ought to be glad there are stewards around who are as on the ball as Kylu is. This was a sound action. ++Lar: t/c 23:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Please!

Please do not delete accounts! It's all I have! Everybody knows those clones! I swear! Please kindly! Whether your little pity!--79.118.29.196 15:45, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Locking accounts is not the same as deleting accounts. No accounts have been deleted. Asking for rights for multiple of your accounts is generally not well received, hence the trigger to the checkuser request. If I may be so bold, you may wish to consider limiting yourself to one active editing account in the future to avoid such issues. Kylu 15:51, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm sysop on ro.wn! Please! I have responsibilities! At least that one please leave it! I crying!--79.118.29.196 15:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I am aware of your sysop status there and have left a message for the promoting bureaucrat to contact me about the situation.[7] Please allow time for the bureaucrat and community to determine what to do. Kylu 15:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Another local admin has blocked your IP here, apparently. Not on my request, I assure you: I don't mind discussing blocks with the people blocked at all. I'm sure that you're upset about all this, but please wait for the local bureaucrat to respond to the request. Kylu 16:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

@79.118.29.196 This is only a temporary block. Pressing other people to do (or not do) administrative actions is generally al least unpleasant. Please allow time for local Bureaucrat responses. --M/ 16:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Mr_man

Hello! I am sorry for not such a quick response. Could you please provide more information on the issue? I have seen that in the past days he was doing a good job at Wikinews, but if this action is documented then we'll have to decide upon or to give him another change. Thank you! -Romihaitza 11:47, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

He has been locked for socking. All the accounts Kylu blocked here were socks. Mr. man has requested for admin/bureaucrat/oversight access on multiple wikis and used his socks for voting. The account Ervin C. has been previously accused of hacking, so it is possible that the same might have been done with Mr. man. These were the reasons why he was locked/blocked. (From what I remember). Pmlineditor ∞ 11:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will start a process of consultation in the community regarding him. His promotion was based on real votes (I hope) and he didn't do a bad job in the last days. Thank you for letting me know! — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Romihaitza (talk)

For the record, he has just contacted me by mail regarding adminship on Romanian Wikitravel (yes, I know this is not part of the WikiMedia Foundation sponsored projects). The reason for which he couldn't leave me a message is that my Romanian Wikitravel talk page is redirect towards the ro.wiki talk... where Mr_Man (or Ervin as he used to be known as) is banned for having used up the community patience. When registering as Mr. Man he started greeting a couple of arbitrary users and immediately asked for adminship rights on wikitravel.org. While I prefer not to have to bother with him anymore, I suspect he'll come back and create other accounts, once he discovers he has been blocked. --Vlad 12:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

He certainly already knows he's blocked (see previous section), but his fate rests with his community, not me. While the standard action in cases of abusive socking, I've already said that I'm perfectly willing to abide by whatever decision his community makes regarding the issue. I can only hope that he's aware that any negative actions he takes at the moment will certainly jeopardize any future he might have as a productive editor. Kylu 23:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Bureaucrats

In regards to [8]. Does Crat require a minimum of 25 votes like CU and Oversight? If it does not, it probably should require some minimum (15? 20?) and I would like to propose one if possible. I only see 5 votes on the ru Wikiversity, which would show an activity level too small to allow for advance permissions, so I feel the change would be appropriate. Ottava Rima 15:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

"Already in 2008 it was consensus amongst the stewards that communities with such a small community that they can not have 15-20 votes at least in 1-2 weeks, are not able to make long term and influential decisions like this." - Effeietsanders [9]. While I'm unfamiliar with the exact locus of the discussion, I do know that this was the approximate standard used by stewards previously, and I am aware that it was put in place due to previous arguments and situations where such access was abused. The point that Sergey made about "we're custodians and not admins," I think, is rather pointless, since the tools themselves can be abused regardless of the title or formal description of the position. Similarly, while I wasn't actually making any Steward Decision on the matter, it seems that my position here extends to the point where I'm actually not allowed to even make my opinion on the matter noted, even when a non-steward could do so. Interesting, isn't it? Kylu 00:02, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, to further answer the question (sorry!) I'm one who likes to codify such rules as they're determined, so I'd really rather like to see something set in stone that we can fall back upon. I keep in mind, though, that many folks (often old-time wikiers) prefer to have a looser "rules are descriptive, not proscriptive" outlook regarding rules and guidelines. For that matter, it'd be awfully nice to describe similar rules for other situations: Minimal voting standards for electing administrators, defining cases of administrator abuse requiring immediate action, similar rules for permission removal (I'm firmly in the camp of "If a user wants their permissions removed, it doesn't matter what anyone else wants." frankly), defining abuse of restricted rights (e.g., leaking the results of a checkuser investigation in violation of the privacy policy, "fishing expeditions," and leaking information that was previously oversighted). Betcha an Oreo cookie that these views get counted against me in the upcoming confirmation, though! Kylu 00:14, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

If you want to codify a minimum requirement, please drop me a note because I would like to support such an initiative. My view isn't about abuse or any concern like that - it is primarily about a low level of activity that suggests no actual need. If they can only get 5 people to vote, then why would there be a demand to make new admin? It would seem a minimum would encourage greater activity and encourage people who want cratship to try and get a stronger community built. Ottava Rima 04:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

That's a good idea, though you hardly need me to get started: Community wise, I'm pretty much a nobody. :) Might I suggest starting a discussion on Talk:Bureaucrat or an RFC (preferably at one and point to the other, so people know there's a discussion?) regarding minimum standards for electing bureaucrats? Similar discussions for various rights would be lovely, and even more so would be standardized methods of setting up arbitration committees and removing inactive rights-holders. Frankly, though, if you have the political talent to pull that sort of thing off, I'd suggest running for public office instead. Kylu 04:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Bambifan101

Hi, Kylu. Please, take a look at this one [10], special:contributions/68.220.184.159. Same area of interest as Bambifan. The Fox and the Hound. Kubura 01:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Gblocked, thank you. Kylu 02:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Permissions‎

What do you think about this, please...?[11] --minhhuy*= 03:06, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

The link works, but you can link to the section easier with SRP#Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy@vi.wikiquote instead. If you're going to use an external link, generally it's for linking to either a diff or a permanent revision, like Meta:SRP#Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy@vi.wikiquote.

As far as the request itself goes, it's on the page and filed, and when a steward fills the request, it's filled. We generally give local communities at least some opportunity to voice comments and concerns before issuing rights, however. Personally, I'm not touching it until the seven days are up, that way there's at least some chance for feedback first. Kylu 05:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Kylu :) --minhhuy*= 05:43, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Was on the 7th, for you comments? --minhhuy*= 03:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Comment? Um... "meow?" Kylu 04:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Kylu, I speak English very bad :) --minhhuy*= 04:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Same here, sadly Wikimedia has only one native Kyluese speaker. Kylu 04:21, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi

If you get a spare moment, please remove my editor and reviewer rights on testwiki, editor rights on dewiki and rollback at simplewiki. Thanks! - Rjd0060 02:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Test is done (yay noncontent wiki abuse!), you can remove it yourself on de, and simplewiki is kinda pointless, since they'll just stick it on again once you're gone for five minutes. (Pardon me while I go run for cover now...) Kylu 02:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Though I tend to agree with Kylu, I've removed your rollback at simplewiki with a link to this discussion. It shouldn't be reapplied unless you specifically request it. Cheers, Lauryn Ashby (d) 02:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Lauryn. You're swell. :) Kylu 03:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

liquidthreads wiki

Please remove my sysop flag there. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 05:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Mine too. Thanks, Pmlineditor ∞ 05:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Anyone else? Kylu 05:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Minimum vote req's

Thanks for starting that discussion. Am I right to assume that you support the defaults you posted? –SJ+ 06:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

ps - your wikibreak poem is awesome. don't feel obliged to respond promptly :) –SJ+

Holy Molasses Management, Batman! You mean to tell me folks are actually taking part in it? And yes, those seemed like reasonable values. Not ideal ones, to me, but ones that I figure people would (eventually) compromise to. Kylu 05:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

SRG

If you can get a moment, can you review this request? Thank you, — Dferg (talk) 17:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Please do as you feel is appropriate. I have no opinion on the matter. I similarly have no opinion on other steward matters for the time being. Maybe when I'm done with my break? Kylu 23:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Since it's an ISP proxy, I'll change the settings so that registered users are not affected by it. Best regards, — Dferg (talk) 23:40, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Come back soon

Meta is so boring without you. Hurry back (so you can get back to work!). Ottava Rima (talk) 21:49, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: MediaWiki 2.0

Yes, I know. But if it can't be moved to mw: the reason to delete it (that it's been moved) disappears, and if it's not useful as MediaWiki documentation or development it should be considered an (old) «discussion concerning the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects», IMHO in Meta:Inclusion policy. A "MediaWiki history" project would be interesting, but I suspects that it is not for mw: users, but only for Meta-Wiki users, and that's why perhaps this is the better place. :-p Anyway, it's awesome that some feature listed here are now in actual development and have blue links. --Nemo 02:01, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

For your information

revert if you want diff and diff. Have a nice day. Vapmachado 02:43, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Nice attempt at snark. Read note, reply if you'd like. Please do be careful of the thin ice during these warmer months. Kylu 03:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Meta:Historical/Meta/MetaWikipedia utilities/user IDs to be deleted

Yes, apparently it was used to collect various problems and tests for Phase II software, and looks like some strange usernames were the main problem, but not the only one; cf. this comment by Graham87. --Nemo 15:17, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed. :-) --Nemo 20:40, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

FYI

Regarding your last !vote @ Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Acehnese_Wikipedia, please also consider Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Acehnese (2) Wikipedia. Thank you. Seb az86556 11:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

He's gone from merely protesting to socking? I wonder how long before this ramps up to active vandalism? Kylu 14:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

confused

"is he going to be confused about which user he is or something?"

When people do not respond to questions I try to make sure that they know I am asking them a question. --JWSurf 14:57, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

"how's wikilinking to their userpage helping?" That is a good question. I have no evidence that it helps. In my experience, there are some Wikimedia functionaries who have a habit of not responding to questions about their actions. (Another recent example.) You could call my use of links to user pages an act of desperation. I had a conversation with "Mercy" about two years ago and came away suspecting that there was a barrier, possibly language, that made good communication between us difficult. By starting a question with a link to the user page I have reason to believe that Wikimedia functionaries know who the question is addressed to, even when they fail to respond to the question. When at a later time I need to discuss their failure to respond to the question, I can quote the question and there is no doubt about who the question was directed to. --JWSurf 16:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Ho Ho

Nice. :) –SJ · talk | translate 00:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

It's silly to think that just because we take a job that grants additional buttons and responsibilities that we're somehow no longer able to voice our opinions and act in the other capabilities that we have. I volunteered for a technical position, not a political or leadership position, no matter how much people attempt to push such responsibilities on us. Anyone who disagrees and thinks that I may only act as a steward (instead of my positions as editor and, here, admin and bureaucrat) is free to voice that opinion on my "reasons to hate Kylu" section and during my confirmation. *shrug* Kylu 01:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

A minor comment.

Dear Kylu, I would like to comment your discussion with SergeyJ.

The key issue is expressed in the following your text:

Certainly you can leave a message, but you left him a warning about his conduct on Wikipedia, a completely different project. Administer your project based on the edits performed on that project, please. This said, wouldn't you agree that the warnings based on Wikipedia actions are inappropriate and then should be removed? Kylu 12:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

There are some administrators in Russia Wikipedia who make warnings and blocks in Russian Wikipedia for actions taken outside the Wikipedia. At some point, it's an extension of English Wikipedia policy on off-wiki harassment prevention.

The discussed SergeyJ's actions is a "return fire" of some kind. I don't think he's correct, but it's the rationale behind his actions... Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 18:09, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I see a significant difference between harassing users outside of the project and giving them warnings for things that are in the scope of their job inside the project. Unfortunately, I think my main error anymore is mis-stating what I'm trying to say. I'm working on that problem, actually.

Yes, I just tried to explain the idea behind what SegeyJ writes and does - just for you to know. I think, more information is better... Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 20:18, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

On an aside, if you (or Alex or Sergey or anyone else) would like to leave a comment on how I'm doing as a steward, I set up a subpage for people to leave such comments. I have a suspicion that it'll attract more negative commentary than positive, but that's how things like that work regularly anyway: You don't compliment the waiter who brings you the correct order, you yell at the one who doesn't. :) Kylu 19:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I've already seen this page. However, I don't think it will attract many negative comments. I've seen many pages like that, and there's no too many negative comments there. Ok, I will write a negative comment for you :-). Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 20:18, 24 August 2010 (UTC) (Sorry if my negative comment is not serious, I could remove if it makes a harm to the page. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 20:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC))

Other than it not being my preference in pronoun, it's kind of silly, but I'm certainly not going to ask you to remove it... I suspect that asking you do to so is not really the best thing to do when I'm trying to show some sort of respect for accountability and transparency, y'know? I figure I've annoyed folks at ace.wikipedia, ru.wikiversity, and plenty of others this year, so this gives them an opportunity to store diffs and legitimate gripes for the steward confirmation. It's a fairly easy-to-find page, but I suppose there's something to be said against storing the data there, since it's in my userspace and could, then, technically start deleting things if I didn't like them. Hm. Sounds like an essay on the idea should go where I have the redirect (on the userpage opposite) now, what'cha think? Kylu 22:11, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I removed the comments, as you have read them and got the message :-), so they are of no use anymore.

I don't think that the people you mentioned would go to this page and to report. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've never seen it worked that way - I don't know exactly why... Sorry for silly advice, but from my personal perception, if you wish people to consider the page seriously, it should be a bit less emotional (w/o hate'n'love), I think.

And I think, any redirect won't help. As far as I note, requests on the personal pages don't work in conflicts - in love and war people do whatever they want, ignoring the requests...

By the way, in Soviet Russia your user page edits you one can't delete others' texts, but only to archive them in a manner that they are accessible by few mouse clicks; and the archives can't be deleted. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 02:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Oho, the Russian guy sneaks in a Yakov Smirnoff joke! So, how would you go about fixing this speedy-delete-politics situation? I don't want to sound like I'm rushin' things, so take your time! :D Kylu 02:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

:-) As for the situation, I think the easiest way is to leave it to Miloš. He knows Russian, he knows Russians, he knows the situation, and probably he knows the solution... I belive this. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 04:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Probably. I'd really like to have that "global arbcom" thing in place that keeps getting proposed, that way there's somebody who can actually mediate and, when needed, take some sort of action on cross-wiki issues and have it not be stewards. The current situation is unacceptable: Either stewards get forced into bulling their way into cross-wiki conflicts, without either mandate or consensus to solve the issue (which makes us into little more than "kind-hearted dictators" at best) or we completely ignore the situation until it's completely out of control, leaving a far larger mess and far more damage. It is, in my opinion, a lose-lose-lose situation. Of course, not everyone wants some sort of pan-wiki binding authority, that way they don't have to worry about there being bigger fish in the pond than they are. There's other reasons, of course, but that one irks me. Kylu 11:40, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that "global arbcom" is a good idea, I've first discussed it at Wikimania, and found it a right thing. I supposed to write a comment here, but realised it would be rather redundant. I simply put my signature under your paragraph, under every word in it, indeed! Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 04:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

• Just to make it clear, contrary to what DrBug seems to imply, there are only three ways to get a warning or get blocked on Russian Wikipedia with zero edit count: (i) inappropriate user name; (ii) cross-wiki vandalism; (iii) sockpuppetry. Whatever whoever thinks about the policies, it is impossible to get banned for off-wiki harrassment for somebody who never edited in Russian Wikipedia.--Yaroslav Blanter 14:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't interpret his comment to assume otherwise, but I thank you for the clarification. Kylu 14:56, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

You are right, I haven't implied anything. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 04:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, also, I moved the deletion section to Requests for comment/Russian Wikiversity Deletions, since it's not really any longer a simple deletion matter. Hopefully folks talk things over there. I'm not too impressed that Bolo1910 immediately decided that I'm "taking sides" however, so I think I'll step back and let you guys work on it instead. Have fun. Kylu 15:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. This probably means the end of the story (well, it still needs to be archived at some point).--Yaroslav Blanter 16:09, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Invite people to come up with alternate solutions, but don't give up on it. I'm starting to wonder if my internal attitude of "if we cooperate, things will turn out okay" is depressingly naive after all though. Kylu 16:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Another comments, just for your information (sorry, if you are tired with this topic) - despite I'm not aware about any blocking of users in Russian Wikipedia who have never edited it, but there were cases when accounts were blocked months or even years (if my memory serves me) after the respective users left Russian Wikipedia forever - and they were blocked for actions off-wiki and even for abstention from active moderation off-wiki. Despite it is a controversial issue, it's not too specific for Russian Wikipedia - there are some policy on off-wiki harassment and off-wiki attack sites in English Wikipedia, for example. I suppose that in Russian Wikipedia the discussed "policy" was a bit exaggerated by some administrators with no community consensus, but currenly and here this my opinion doesn't matter. But I have no doubts - Sergey's actions are "return fire" of some kind, whether it's good or not. And from my personal point of view it would be great to cease this mutual fire in some peaceful manner, of course... Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 04:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Checkuser

Hello, colleague

You wrote for me Welcome, new CheckUser . But when I trying entering to Special:CheckUser, I received

Permissions errors
The action you requested is limited to users in the group: CheckUsers

any help?--Deineka 22:55, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm not Kylu, but I thought I'd help here too. :-) You're visiting w:uk:Special:CheckUser on ukwiki and not Special:CheckUser on Meta-Wiki, right? It should be working on ukwiki, but it won't work on meta (here) because you only have +checkuser on ukwiki. Cbrown1023 talk 23:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

thnx--Deineka 23:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Steward request

Could you grant me the steward rights so that i can revoke their admin rights. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brandondorf9999alt (talk) 20:14, 30 August 2010

Oh sure, just link me to the page with the vote and your foundation identification diff. You're pretty good, most folks don't even make admin after only 101 contribs... Kylu 14:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Well you have to go to Special:UserRights and then enter Brandondorf9999alt and then click "Edit User Rights" and put a check on "Steward" and "Administrator" and then click "Save User Groups" and i'm a steward and an administrator and now i can remove their administrator rights and block them and i can unblock myself.--Brandondorf9999alt 00:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

It's not working. I go to the link you mention and it says "Your account does not have permission to assign user rights." - I'd hazard a guess that it's because I'm not a steward on the English Wikipedia. Looking at en:Special:ListGroupRights and the folks that are in each group, it looks like the only person who can make someone a steward on en.wikipedia on that page would be Jimbo Wales with that "founder" flag. If you look at Special:GlobalGroupPermissions/steward here you can see that the global steward group does not actually have access to the "userrights" function. I'd try that Jimbo guy, myself, but he's probably busy and all. Kylu 00:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh poor Kylu.. Kylu is not a complete steward. - @lestaty ^discuţie 00:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I imagine you'll find that if you wander to en:special:userrights that you can't do it either. :) Steward userrights only works on teh Meta. Kylu 01:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha yep, I know. - @lestaty ^discuţie 01:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

(deindent) So, what, all stewards are broken? Sheesh, you'd think we'd come with a warranty or something... Kylu 01:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, all us no hahaha, you only hahaha. "Kylu is not a complete steward because dont have permissions on enwiki"! (/me hidden the power) - @lestaty ^discuţie 01:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Aha, so you're willing to help Brandondorf then? Good, 'cos all this complicated permission stuff hurts my widdle bwain! Maybe he'll have better luck with you doing it. Oh Brandon! Lestaty's talkpage is this'a way! –––> User talk:Sir Lestaty de Lioncourt :D Kylu 01:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

O.O no, no, no... I dont have this power, but Jimbo's yeah. - @lestaty ^discuţie 02:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes i'm trying to untrapp those users so they can be able to contribute wikipedia so they can block the users that are vandalizing to block them from wikipedia, i need to take care of it so they will stop being abusive with their rights so which group has all access to all wikis including wikipedia? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brandondorf9999alt (talk) 22:26, 1 September 2010

You forgot to sign. :) Anyway, to answer your question seriously, stewards are prohibited from performing such actions unless the local arbitration committee requests it. You could try to contact them, of course, and I think Jimbo Wales (previously mentioned) still has his GodKing authority there, but we poor stewards are quite bound by the steward policy (and quality handcrafted leather goods) from being able to do as you request. Personally, I wonder if maybe a better tactic would be to just deprive Wikipedia of your obvious intelligence and advanced computer skills and simply edit elsewhere that would appreciate the vast treasures you bring to the table. I'm sad to say that Meta is likely just as corrupt by bureaucratic process and such quaint notions as "consensus" and will not likely be the requisite solution that you so yearn for. Best of luck, Brandon! Kylu 02:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Unreal. -- Avi 02:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi

I replied to your message on my SUL Request. Fridae'sDoom 04:06, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Replied again, maybe you could change the password for me? Fridae'sDoom 04:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Um, you really don't need to leave a note each time you edit the sul request page. I see the edit the moment it happens anyway. Kylu 04:36, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

It's still unattached, I can login but it still says it's unattached. Fridae'sDoom 23:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. You did go to special:MergeAccount while logged into that project to merge them, right? Kylu 11:51, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

• (Note, appears that Fridae'sDoom is completely merged now, according to CentralAuth. Guess we're done here?) Kylu 15:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

• Unfortunately not :/ Sorry for my belated response. I can't even login on Mlwikisource... What do I do now? Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 06:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Please unprotect my user page

• For review, this section prior to blanking: User talk:Kylu#Please unprotect my user page. Removed due to link to user blacklist and general tiredness of dealing with someone whose only purpose in life is apparently to promote such a thing. Kylu 16:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Reply

Sorry, I was confused with Meta and Commons... farewell…^u.t.c

Oh yes, of course. Thank you very much! farewell…^u.t.c 05:58, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Block request

Hey Kylu,

Can you please globally block my IP address for infinite, so i can stop vanidalzing the Wikis? Thank you.

Block this IP address: 97.65.112.182 23:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Since you asked so nicely, sure! I went ahead and blocked you both globally and on Meta for a period of one year, and selected some nifty options such as blocking both logged-in users and anonymous edits from that address. I do hope that's exactly the sort of block you want. Anyway, have a wonderful day! Kylu 01:40, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Sinhala Wikipedia

Hello Kylu, I was wondering whether you could answer my query in User talk:Jyothis#Sinhala Wikipedia. It has not been answered now for five weeks. Best--Chanaka L (talk) 08:07, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

An administrator performs IP blocks by going to special:blockip. For more details on the process itself, see MW:Manual:Block and unblock.

As far as "how" in a process sense, you'd likely want to contact si:User:Lee, who would investigate and, if warranted, perform the above steps. If Lee's unavailable, one of the stewards or global sysops can do it if needed. I'm one of the former at the moment, of course. Kylu 11:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Ohhhh... Kylu! I know how to report a vandal and get them blocked. I'm terribly sorry, Seems like I 've failed communicate the question in an easily comprehensible manner. I was asking how do you change user rights (as shown in en:Wikipedia:User access levels#Table) of anonymous users barring them from "createpage" action. My intention is preventing this kind of things in there. Thanks for taking time to answer my question. Regards--Chanaka L (talk) 13:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Nah, my fault, I completely misunderstood, sorry!

The actual technical bit is that the sysadmins need to add this to InitialiseSettings.php:

'siwiki' => array( 
      '*' => array( 'createpage' => false),
    ),

They'll want a pretty good local consensus to do so, though. If you've attained such a consensus, you'll want to report the requested change and the vote itself in a bugzilla request, then wait for the sysadmins to either implement the change or reject it for whatever mysterious reasons come up.

Have an absolutely wonderful day! Kylu 16:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I'll start a discussion on this in the local village pump and transfer (if the community approves the change.) it to bugzilla as you have instructed. While we are at it, would you mind stating your opinion on another issue, perhaps bigger and important than this tech issue, in Sinhala Wikipedia. It is another query of mine which had not been answered properly, here is the link User talk:J.delanoy#Sinhala Wikipedia. I am a staunch of opponent of paid editing, here is my personal reflexion on the matter, si:විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ/2010/003#Felidae socks confirmed. Hope you don't mind me trespassing your hospitality once more. Regards--Chanaka L (talk) 02:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm not fond of paid editing, though I think that were it to be done in an unbiased and policy-abiding sense there would be no problem with it: Consider users working at a university who are paid to update articles on insects with the latest and greatest findings, or those who work countless hours on Wikispecies sorting through the morass of medusae species there. That, and as long as they're not giving more weight to their own publications than they do others, would be fine. Someone paid by Toyota or BP to ensure that the article on that car company always was shiny and reflected a positive image of them, however, would not be appropriate by any measure.

Now, the other possibility for you is that you could propose a policy on Sinhalese Wikipedia to ban such editing (barring WMF-approved role accounts, though these accounts nearly never actually edit...makes you wonder why they bother having them, ne?) on your project. If such a policy is approved by your community, than you have the opinion of your community backing you up.

Let me know if I can be of any other help. Kylu 12:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I had to agree that in some situations paid editing can be versatile. But I believe it is against our Wikipedia fundamentals and contradicts with User Generated Content philosophy. If we allow paid editing, what is going to be the difference between corporate published data and the volunteer-written Wikipedia. In our situation, the Felidae's contributions are particularly very lousy. The volunteers' effort can be very professional by far than the paid editors'. Here is an example; The writer of en:Anuradhapura Kingdom, en:User:Chamal N has visited the Colombo National Library few times to gather literature on the topic. He spent a lot of time writing it too. On the other hand have a look at the Barak Obama article si:බැරැක් ඔබාමා the Felidae Project have edited. It can be very frustrating for the volunteers, when they come to know that while they shedding sweat to improve an article, some of the fellow contributors pocket money after few hours of lousy editing. I am someone who has spent money on buying books to write articles and I've done it solely for my satisfaction, and I won't complain about it. My belief is Wikipedia should allow its readers to read it freely as well as it should be written for free. I am afraid, I don't think I would propose a policy to ban paid editing in Sinhala Wikipedia. If only someone else ask my opinion on it I will express my views, as I don't want to influence our community.

Looks like everybody like our proposal, except for this potential drama Steward requests/Checkuser#Srimalpunchi.40si.wikipedia. It's been very pleasing to talk to you, Kylu. I should've asked for your help on siwiki matters earlier. I thought you were inactive. Anyway thanks much and Regards.--Chanaka L (talk) 08:28, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't cry for me, Sri Lanka

The truth is I never left you

All through my wild days

My mad existence

I kept my promise

Don't keep your distance

I'm "inactive" on Sinhalese Wikipedia because I don't know the language enough to contribute. If you all need help, I still plan on doing whatever I can. Has anyone there considered talking to the employers of Felidae, maybe, and just letting them know that his contributions are poor? I wonder if the articles would be more acceptable if he stopped tagging them on the bottom of the page and if his quality improved? :) Kylu 11:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

LOL, Thanks very much for your contributions in Sinhala Wikipedia. I believe you can easily contribute to images and files, si:ප්‍රවර්ගය:Candidates for speedy deletion as copyright violations and si:ප්‍රවර්ගය:මූලාශ්‍ර නොදන්නා සියළුම විකිපීඩියා ගොනු (Files without copyrights information). In the batch of 1000-9999 articles Wikipedias, SIWIKI has the most number of images see List of Wikipedias#1 000.2B articles, but I suspect vast majority of them are copyvios. The felidae project themselves agreed to remove the tag, si:විකිපීඩියා:කෝපි කඩේ/2010/002#The_Tag_-_It.27s_Gone.21, after discussing with their project partners. They don't even know that their project partners don't have any jurisdiction over Sinhala Wikipedia. Regards--Chanaka L (talk) 02:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I've offered to use KyluBot to delete these images en masse, but I hadn't heard enough about it yet to do so. If you show me a request and passing vote, I'll happily do so. :) Kylu 02:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

That would be great. But I haven't seen your offering though. Let's do it once after the current discussion closed. Talking about the current proposal, I am puzzled over how long the discussion should run? and should I wait till the CheckUser request handled to close it?--Chanaka L (talk) 07:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Once you place the checkuser request, it's pretty much out of your hands. Let the stewards handle it: They're well aware that there's a request there already. I consider Sinhala Wikipedia a "home" project for me, so I can't do requests for there. It may take a while for the stewards to determine if a CU is needed and, if so, who should do it, etc... Kylu 16:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Um... Best thing to do seems to wait till the CheckUser request closed, to close the proposal discussion. Otherwise folks at Bugzilla won't accept this as the community consensus, if any socks have voted in the discussion. I'll let you the developments. Regards--Chanaka L (talk) 02:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Coolpolitealex

Ok Kylu,point taken,but i never did it to be rude,i only thought i was helping,but i will avoid coming here like the plague,bye. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coolpolitealex (talk) 12:33, 13 September 2010

I'm sorry you feel that way, though nobody's asking you to leave. We're just pointing out that it's not always appreciated if you fix comments left by someone else. Hope things go better in the future for you, though. Kylu 16:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Block reuest for this IP address

Hi Kylu! Today, I request you to do the following:

Can you please globally block me so I can stop vandalizing the WikiProjects? Thanks. You can also block me on Meta if you want me to.

Block this IP address: 63.232.18.26 21:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hiya, '26! Wow, you remind me of another IP that was on here not too long ago. Also a nice guy! Anyway, I globally blocked you for a year, like you asked, but unfortunately Mercy got to the local block before I could. :(

Anyway, your request is completed, and have an absolutely super day! Hell, take a whole fabulous week! :D Kylu 22:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Content of articles in different languages

Hi, I will be thankful, if you prompt me, how the following may be solved, if it may be solved and if it is practiced in Wikipedia. This time I do not ask you to help me to decide the problem with one definite article, but I would like to know, if it is possible in general. I have noticed that there is an article in a "national" Wikipedia (in some language) that is outrageous and offensive, insulting national and ethnic dignity, and to tell the truth it looks like as if written by a sexually unhealthy personality and even personalities. Such articles may be published at some personal sites to explain and stir the vile atrocity of one ethnic group against the other with the cynic attempts to prove such point of view with scientific and historic reasoning. But may they be published in WP? So, I would like to not, if something is done in Wikipedia to control the content of "national" WPs and if yes, who I will contact. Thank you in advance. Best wishes, -- Zara-arush (talk) 23:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

There are no national Wikipedias, though some of the users mistakenly believe there are: Wikipedias are language based. For instance, I have edited (and adminned) the Sinhalese Wikipedia. Sinhalese is basically unspoken outside Sri Lanka, and there are no editors there now that I am aware of who aren't from Sri Lanka.

There's an Aceh Wikipedia, which is a language spoken in the predominantly Muslim state of Aceh in Indonesia. Its editors are nearly all from this single state and had an issue where some of the users mistakenly believed that it was a Wikipedia for the people in the state of Aceh, as opposed to simply anyone who speaks the language.

Each project, be it Sinhalese Wikipedia or Wikispecies or whatever we decide to host next, has its own community of editors, and those editors determine what is the best way for that project to proceed with the culture that has grown there in order to fulfill its mission. The English Wikipedia, for instance, has policies describing its requests for comments pages for article content issues and a dispute resolution system for interpersonal issues. We do not really have any sort of global binding dispute or content issue resolution system, aside from these local fora.

Here at Meta, you could bring up the issue at our local request for comments pages, but what it boats in global scope it significantly loses in efficiency, timeliness, and authority. In many cases, these disputes go on until someone quits contributing in disgust or the parties decide it's simply better to avoid each other than have to deal with such a process. I think that many Meta contributors see a need in forming a "global arbitration committee" of sorts, but it generally doesn't get a lot of support outside of this project.

Ultimately, I would have to suggest trying to see if there is some sort of content dispute system on the project in question and contact it, hoping that the majority on that project are in favor of neutral articles with fair treatment of the subjects. Unfortunately for your issue, stewards (such as myself) are specifically not part of any sort of dispute resolution system, though we tend to find ourselves stuck in the role more often than we would like.

Personally I took the job 'cos I like all the pretty shiny buttons we get to play with. ;)

Best of luck, and I do hope your issue is resolved to everyone's satisfaction. Kylu 23:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your reply. O, if it were as simple as to contact the dispute page of the project in that language! It is complicated with their governmental sponsorship of the editors who produce such articles not only in their native language, but any other languages. It is possible to discuss something of the kind in English or other major WPs, because there are the principles and rules that you know well and are used to. But what relates to their native language project, it is a different thing. And they apply this principle of independancy that you mentioned. So, I am in search of the "tools" and rules of WP that may be employed in my case. I know several languages, so I may compare, what is written in the major languages WPs. Please, believe nowhere you will not find such content as there. To guess you may imagine that the Arabs will sponsor editors to write the articles educating why their citizens have to torment and stone the Jews or vice-versa. It is too complicated, but it is what we have in this case. Thank you for your explanations, I know now that it is more complicated than I thought before, but I am sure such tools shall be created in WP. Best wishes,-- Zara-arush (talk) 01:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

RE:Mislocated userpages

Hi. Yes. Those links will probably be useful. Thanks. In fact, that page was the only one I saw at the recent changes. I wasn't sure if the redirect should be deleted so I didn't tag it. I thought that someone would want to search for an user using the namespace as it is written in his wiki... thinking better, it doesn't make to much sense know.
Have a nice day.” T_eleS (T _{PT @ C G}) 01:13, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Up for more careful consideration would be the pages in User:Kylu/metashort. Many of these have content transcluded onto other pages, so should be left alone, or are interwiki redirects, which should (also) likely be left alone. A lighter touch would be warranted, but feel free to investigate them if you'd like. Kylu 01:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Some redirects wasn't deleted (here and others). It have to be deleted? Some of them are linked on other pages and I believe that it should only be deleted if the links were fixed. The problem is that it is related with the user signature and maybe it is a reason for not deleting it.
Others were created by IP adresses. Is it a problem? I mean... how can we know that the user is related with that IP. On pt.wiki it s normally not accepted and we ask the IP to login and only after edit the page. However, some pages are very old and probably that IP is not related to the account anymore if one day it was. Suddenly a simple task became a lot complicated... or I am complicating that. hehe” T_eleS (T _{PT @ C G}) 02:08, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Kylu. I've found these useful links on Teles's talk page and moved some mis-located pages now. If you need some help on User:Kylu/metashort, I'm here.

Can we delete the redirects to user pages if they are not linked? Regards, Ruy Pugliesi^◥ 02:17, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

To answer both of your questions:

1. The redirects to userpages can probably be safely deleted.
2. The ones made by IP editors, I'd suggest looking at the content first. If it's reasonable, the account is taken at Meta, and there's no potentially misleading content if we're wrong (oh, and the userpage doesn't exist yet...) then we could move it to the userpage and leave that person a note stating that that's what you've done. If it's even potentially vandalism, it'd be better to delete it first and then leave a note explaining what we did. If they want the page undeleted, we can do that easy enough and put it in the userspace.

Hope that helps! :D Kylu 02:29, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Ruy Pugliesi^◥ 02:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Nice. Thank you.” T_eleS (T _{PT @ C G}) 02:44, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Steward requests/Checkuser

Appreciate if you can assist my request in Steward requests/Checkuser Yosri 06:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

It appears Shizhao already did the checkuser request. In the instances of "Stale", please note that it's not a "they don't match", it's a "the edits are too old to check" since the checkuser function only keeps its data available for a short period of time (the exact number varies depending on configuration, but if it's over 30 days, there's no guarantee.)Sorry, Yosri. Kylu 14:41, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Censoring request

Hi, please completely censor "censored edit", including the username. I accidently edited while logged out, sorry for that. Heymid 09:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Done, though you might get a faster response next time if you send email to the mailing list or contact a steward on IRC. :) Kylu 14:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Two things:

1. Where is the log saying that you removed that edit? Can I get a link, please?
2. I was just disappointed by the fact that you didn't trust me, due to the fact that I am currently blocked from sv.wiki, which is definitely Remember: Always assume good faith, except in certain cases. Heymid 15:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

The log link is here, though I don't think the suppression log is publicly visible. If you'd like, revisit the diff and you can tell that the action was performed, or if you want confirmation as to its source, you can ask any user on Meta with either the oversight or steward rights to verify.

Please realize that "assume good faith" does not mean "leave your common sense behind" - While yes, your note on the removals was within local policy, there's an issue in that when someone is blocked they tend to have exhausted their assumption of good faith on that project. When performing an act as substantial as removal of sysop rights, it's best to ensure that the request is coming from someone in good standing in the target community. See also: en:Wikipedia:Assume the assumption of good faith and, more humorously, en:Wikipedia:Assume that everyone's assuming good faith, assuming that you are assuming good faith (None of which are established policies on Meta, but we do try to abide by them anyway.)

If you don't think that my rationale for requesting someone else in the community request or verify your removal request was appropriate, please note this on my confirmation notes page or bring it up during the next confirmation, though I would request that you mention the whole details of the issue in your summary of the event (including being blocked on svwp at the time), lest someone mistake the absence of this detail as an attempt to mislead other commentators.

Hopefully our next interaction is more pleasant. I do hope you have a great day! :) Kylu 16:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:CheckUser policy/pt

Hi, Kylu. Could give your opinion here? It is not a matter of changing policy; it is just to fix the translation. Thanks.” T_eleS (T _{PT @ C G}) 03:18, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Replied there. Kylu 16:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Kylu. Have a nice day.” T_eleS (T _{PT @ C G}) 01:49, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Average passer-by

That's a possible interpretation. Truth is probably somewhere inbetween. I meant that I'm not clueless. That doesn't mean I'm omniscient either. While, I don't take all community norms equally seriously--some I take with discretion--the vast majority of them I don't object to since they're helpful. This instance I thought would be harmless, and I can see how an editor might appreciate their argument not looking silly because of a typo. Either way it wasn't malicious. Talk pages are public and typos do reflect poorly on arguments as well as making a discussion less easy to follow. Frankly the policy of not editing other's obvious typos is the result of people freaking out about something that does no actual harm when done appropriately and can be a small improvement to a discussion. Risks might outweigh the benefits, but sadly, that is because people take this aspect of the Wiki way too seriously, as evidenced by this incident. Ocaasi 18:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Ha, you should read further up on this page and in my talk archives. I've noticed that there's a great number of people who take things very seriously and are miffed that others do not treat projects with the "respect they deserve" (decorum arguments, for instance.) - Others take things far too relaxed and tend to get silly on public-facing pages. The ground I prefer to tread is that different people have differing opinions on how seriously to take the projects, and that if we can somehow manage to treat others with respect (especially readers) even when having fun, we'll do okay.

I am, honestly, one of the "don't touch my comments" folks. If I make a spelling or grammar mistake, hopefully the reader can look past it at the logic driving the statement. If there's a logic mistake, then either someone can point it out or it deserves to fail. The problem comes when later people quote us and says, "You said such-and-such", after someone has come and "helped" by correcting my wording, which as awkward or illogical as it may have been. I don't really even like to fix my own comments... I'd rather note a correction in a later comment or (rarely) perform a strike-through and note the rationale for it.

That's just my position, however... as you've already noticed, others take far differing stances. Kylu 19:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Steward_requests/Checkuser#Inhins.40zh.wikipedia

Hello, could you please have a checkuser on this request? I and other sysop of zhwp have waited over a week but no one responses. Hope you can check or give a comment. Thank you very much! --CDIP No.150 repair meter 17:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll look on the SRCU page this weekend, I think. Not a lot of time to work on detailed things at the moment. o.o; Kylu 17:08, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

usurping L

Hi from eo:WP ! We don't have a user rename page in eo:WP. User use to ask bureaucrat. I renamed a few users which clearly asked me. But I don't quite understand user L's demand. I didn't find any valid user page of this user. Where has he/she main account ? Which is his/her actual user name ? Should I rename eo:user:L to anything else, so could the asking user usurp this account ? And why wants at all this user have an account in eo:Wp where he/she never was contributing ? Cheers Arno Lagrange ✉ 08:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage here. Kylu 15:29, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

It's OK I renamed L to L (usurped) Arno Lagrange ✉ 21:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Sulutil:Rehman Abubakr

Hi Kylu. I have noticed that you are somewhat active at SR/SUL, so I thought of asking you directly. Sometime back, I have renamed my account from the above to my current, "Rehman". During my time with the old name, some accounts were autocreated. Is there a way to delete those accounts? All of them have 0 edits. Rehman⁽⁺⁾ 09:13, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Accounts don't get deleted. If you don't want to use the account, just ignore it: It's not hurting anything. Kylu 15:17, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I see. Was just wondering if it was possible. Thanks anyway. Kind regards. Rehman⁽⁺⁾ 15:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

199.126.224.245

Hi, I have a question regarding your reply on Talk:Arbitration_Committee#Why_ArbCom_At_All.3F. Thanks199.126.224.245 06:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied there. Kylu 12:06, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Edited and then replied again.199.126.224.245 23:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Could you comment?199.126.224.245 03:02, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Replied there. Currently not very responsive due to lack of connectivity due to my location, hence the message below. If you want to talk to me this week, I'll have to beg your forgiveness at being rather non-responsive until I return. Have a nice day. Kylu 21:51, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

On the content of articles in different languages

Dear Kylu, I did as you recommended: [12] There is not reply for the couple of days, as of the present. Also I asked the qustions to the user, who is also contributed in Russian WP. It did not work, because despite the rules and principles relating to ethnic and religious matters, he again offers the link to psychiatrist Cesare Lambroso, who worked out the theory on the heredity of inclination to commit crimes, i.e the criminals are born criminals. I am not an expert in the genetics of criminals, but I guess it is a nazy theory that may only find its application by fascists and racist, anyhow it may be employed as a basis for statements in Wikipedia, especially relating to the ancient godds of fertility and all times godds of fertility, maternity and in any other case, besides the biography of Cesare Lambroso himself and his works. There are still religions that worship godds of fertility, but no nation ever worshiped any deity of prostitution. So, I do not know now, what I may do and who I may contact. I am sure it is not the problem of this one article, and I would like to find a group that may solve this very article problem. Please help me to contact anyone, who may be helpful in this matter. Thank you in advance, -- Zara-arush (talk) 12:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about, so I'll leave that as a reminder.

Anyway, as I said, if the locals are not responsive, then the solution is to either use whatever dispute resolution system is in place on that project (if any), discuss the matter with the local administrators (az:special:listadmins), or state the issue in a request for comments here on Meta. It may be worth mentioning that you've created such a discussion at WM:FORUM so others are aware.

Stewards aren't part of the dispute resolution system, despite frequent appearances, so you'll need to consider those. Kylu 17:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your assistance. I wrote the personal invitations to discuss the problem to each of the admins in the list. I will wait for several days, because I hope still they may reply. I wrote a short explanation on the discussion page of Anahit in English WP, as a reply to an Azerbaijani user. Unfortunately, none of those users in English WP, who edited the article and Ancient deities of fertility, replied at my asking to write their opinions. But I guess none wants to enter into senseless debates, becuase all is evident: a psychiatrist may not be a good source for an article on a 2000-year old pagan deity of fertility in particular and any deity of fertility in general. It is a part of the culture or history of all the tribes and nations of the world, none of the nations jumped over this period. I may not imagine any tribe or nation that may worship a deity only as a prostitution deity. They all were or are worshipped as the deities of fertility. The beliefs and ceremonies, relating to the cult of a deity of fertility may not be used for the political propaganda to thrill the schauvinistic and nazy attitudes of their country people. What Wikipedia has to do with such an article? Thanks again for your assistance. Best wishes, -- Zara-arush (talk) 02:12, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Kylu, thank you very much for your assistance, the question is solved, the article is deleted from Azerbaijani division of Wikipedia. It was a good experience of cooperation. Best wishes, Zara-arush (talk) 20:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, it's me again. They recovered the same content. What may be done now? Thank you in advance, Zara-arush (talk) 12:21, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Requests for comment/"Anais" article with abusive content in Azerbaijani Wikipedia - Looks like you're already doing it. Kylu 13:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, I doubted if I entered it correctly, Zara-arush (talk) 13:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

We have no format requirements for RfCs here, really. Things like cute templates and categories tend to be added on later or as the page is updated, so don't worry about it. Kylu 14:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I just looked at the page of discussion of the article, history of the article and discussion of the admin - bureaucrat, who deleted the article a day ago. They go on with their profanation, pretending they work on the content. There are no two points of view on the goddess of fertility. To listen it from a person who declared himself a fan of Dali and arts, is more than strange. It may be the only anti-Armenian article there that has no no politic content, just name-calling, Zara-arush (talk) 14:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Such details really belong on the RfC page, not here. I do empathize with your discouragement regarding the situation however. Again, a strong case for centralized policies and dispute resolution mechanisms. Kylu 17:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the phrase or not, but the concept of "Asking Dad when Mom says no" is generally frowned upon.

You currently have these fora active discussing the article you're upset over:

1. Requests for comment/"Anais" article with abusive content in Azerbaijani Wikipedia
2. Steward_requests/Speedy_deletions#az:Anais
3. This page and section, of course.
4. User_talk:Sj#Anais_is_again_in_AzerWiki - not yet responded to.
5. Wikimedia_Forum#Request_for_the_deletion_of_.22Anais.22_article_in_the_Azerbaijani_language_Wikipedia

While your upset over the issue is understandable, the excessive zeal used in combating the issue is, perhaps, problematic: By pushing the issue on every available forum, it presents a picture of someone who has personal interest (for whatever reason) in the article, which may eventually result in your opinions and arguments not carrying the same weight as someone who is clearly disinterested in a personal sense at the contents. If I may indulge in a little precognition, I expect that your speedy deletion request will be summarily denied as it's neither gross vandalism by external forces, nor do the local administrators seem to see it as such, and there's the issue that there are in fact local and active administrators in the first place. As az.wikipedia is not in the Global Sysop wikiset, such deletion would have to be performed by a steward. Deletions of articles by stewards that one person has offense to on a project with multiple active administrators is generally not done: This doesn't excuse the content if it is, in fact, offensive, but should serve instead to explain why we act the way we do.

Basically, stewards aren't "super-sysops", but are far more constrained, being limited from performing any duties that an active local is capable of doing except in extreme or emergency circumstances.

I imagine the best solution for you would be to withdraw your other requests and leave a link to the RfC (as situation merits) instead. Best of luck. Kylu 22:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanations again. I deleted the request from the page of speedy deletion. I moved the content to my discussion page to have it for a reference in case it be needed for further discussion. As for my personal interest, I follow the offer to be bold. You may check my contributions in various projects that are very far from politics. I use often Wikipedia in my job, so when I see mistakes, as a former English teacher I correct them. The same is about any wrong content I read. If I had more time I would do more for increasing the number of articles and proving the content in Wikipedia. I lack knowledge of WP rules, and especially in meta matters. If I will not apply and ask questions and offer my suggestions and solutions, how may I learn the rules? As a former interpreter I am used to meet numerous people of varied cultures and ethnic origin. Now I do other type of job, and Wikipedia for me is a means for such communication that I enjoy. If you mean my block for trolling, the arbitrar deleted this accusation from other places, when the committee learnt, what it was. I am used to translate legal documents, so there was none other than me, who could be helpful, because the situation could develop in wrong direction. And I would like to say once more, I am bold enough to say, what I consider is just and correct, because I am my own master. Thank you for your help, and I am sure you also learnt much in Wikipedia that was added to your personal qualities that I enjoy. I will be thankful for any recommendation and assistance that you may consider helpful in this very case, and I will be glad to cooperate with you in any other matter, if once I may be helpful, -- Zara-arush (talk) 23:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm sad to admit that the main lesson I've learned on Wikipedia was "don't run for administrator". Either you have zero impact and are unappreciated or you're engaged in constant battles regarding pointless topics while trying to cause some change for the good. In both these scenarios, it's a war you lose by attrition. I suppose there are some good administrators out there that manage to perform good work, are recognized for it, and not bound up in pointless bickering, but I can't think of any. Best of luck. Kylu 02:28, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you again. Now I would like to know, when and whom I may ask to avaluate the sources that were given in Azerbaijani article about pagan deity of fertility. When and where may I list their sources for valuation as admittable for Wikipadia article on ancient mythology? Thank you again in advance, Zara-arush (talk) 13:22, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

That sort of decision is left up to the local community to decide, though many tend to either emulate or simply refer to the policies of either the English version of the project or the closest-related-language project until they have developed a formal set of rules themselves. Note, however, that even if the issue does refer to another project's policies, it doesn't mean that the referred-to project is in any way responsible or in control over what happens on the other project. Kylu 13:26, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Does it mean that it is possible to create a content with racist, nazy, human rights violating ideas and slogans, Meta's answer will be: it is subject to their policies and they have their own rules that are not subject to WP general rules? Does it mean that it is possible to gather phrazes insulting a person or a country published in blogs, yellow press and other non-academic sources, and make up an article in Wikipedia? -- Zara-arush (talk) 20:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, you've just proven en:Godwin's law. You did not ask if any of the content itself was allowable, your original question was regarding sources, and projects have to determine for themselves if a particular source is unbiased, reliable, and verifiable by itself if they don't adopt the already existing policies of another project. While I'm sympathetic to your anger and dismay over how the situation has been handled thus far, I do have to reiterate that I'm not going to go to this other project and tell the admins what they have to do regarding article content and threaten them with (blocks|bans|de-adminning|defenestration|whatever) over content that's in a language in which I neither speak nor can find a reliable automated (read:neutral) translation method.

Here's a hint: Requests_for_comment/ace.wikipedia_and_Prophet_Muhammad_images and Requests for comment/Prophet Muhammad images around Wikimedia projects are related to a situation where a group of admins on a project decided they wanted a template on the main page of their project, stating that they were threatening to boycott Wikipedia if the various Wikimedia projects would not delete the various pictures of their prophet across all the different projects. It took about two months for there to be an asserted decision that the template had to be removed, and I quite expect that all the stewards involved (including myself) will eventually have a significant amount of opposition in the next confirmation due to the situation. Bypassing the local administrators on a project, possibly having to remove them, because one person (you) has a complaint about the article content, and we're unable to verify that it is what you say it is... well, no offense, but that's a bit of a foolish action on my part were I to just jump in and start kicking them out on your say-so.

You've started the RfC, so it'd likely be best to invite the admins from there to review the page, find some other people that can provide alternative translations for folks, explain in detail what the problems are with the content and why this is important, and then let the community mull over the situation for a while to decide what it wants. Projects have typically had very free reign in what they hosted content-wise, and I imagine they'll be quite resistant to reversing that trend. While the idea is distasteful, there is unfortunately a political reality involved and the potential impact from such decisions is not always going to slant in the same direction as your desires for the immediate effects that a discussion would bring.

While at it, please do make sure you comment on the issues with the content and stay away from responding to attacks on your person, lest you be embroiled in a name-calling fight where there aren't any winners. A "my ethnic background is irrelevant to the discussion" is probably even too much, since it can be grasped as a handle to beat you with: I'd suggest just ignoring any such insults as much as you humanly can.

I do wish you all the luck you deserve, but I'd really like to continue to suggest leaving your ideas and questions on the matter at the relevant RFC page. I hope you forgive me for not responding further, here. Kylu 21:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this explanation. I started to translate Paul Graham's How to Disagree to introduce it to Russian division users editing conflict articles, but was not able to complete yet. It would be great, if I learnt about similar mistakes that might be committed in debates, though you look tired of continuing this discussion. It just proves my thought that Wikipedia is a great experience. As for chosing sources, I am used to edit in Russian WP, where it is impossible to place content without reliable and academic source proving the content of any sentense and sometime word irrespective of the theme any article is written about, i.e. the reliable source dictates the content, if there is no reliable source, an info or statement may not be placed. The same way I understand the content of the article I am insulted with. There are no academic sources that name a fertility deity as a deity of prostitution, so if the mainstream historic science does not name the fertility deities as deities of prostitution, the content is abusive and may not be placed in Wikipedia. I will write about it at the request page, so once again, thank you, Zara-arush (talk) 00:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

It's me again. It's your right not to reply, but I write you here just to inform you that I read WP article "Godwin's law". I just want to remind you the following of this article:

Godwin's lawapplies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Hitler or Nazis or their actions. The law and its corollaries would not apply to discussions covering genocide, propaganda, eugenics (racial superiority) or other mainstays of Nazi Germany, nor, more debatably, to discussion of other totalitarian regimes, since a Nazi comparison in those circumstances may be appropriate.

Though I did my best to avoid the discussion affected any political issues, the mentioning Godwin's law is what I wanted to avoid. You confirmed that such content may not be placed in any Wikipedia project, and you also confirmed that Wikipedia does not have the machanisms at present to solve this type of problems. But I am sure this problem shall be solved inside Wikipdia, and contrary to your suggestion to find some independant expert in Azerbaijani and ancient history, I am sure the presenting the questions that I asked here to the analysis of extra-Wikipedia experts or organizations or communities, etc. will have negative influence to Wikipedia, a project that I rendered so much time and so many efforts within the last year. It is not the matter of one silly article, but with the growth of Wikipedia, the similar questions and matter will arise for sure, and permitting this article existance in Wikipedia, will produce other similar articles the number of them will multiply. The "ostrich's behavior" policy will not help. So, it is time to create the corresponding mechanism and apply the existing rules to all projects equally. The definite content shall be studied and analysed to begin with: articles relating to culture, history, arts. Best wishes, -- Zara-arush (talk) 19:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

JenVan@ruwikibooks

Hi! Can I get the sysop rights on this wiki to revert vandalism? It is need because project admins are unactive and obvious vandalism is remains. I'll plan use it for delete unconstructive new pages and block vandals. Thanks! JenVan (talk) 06:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

According to b:ru:Викиучебник:Администраторы, which describes the local role of administrators there, you need to visit b:ru:Викиучебник:Заявки_на_статус_администратора and place a request first. Typically one waits a week or two for comments before asking.

Yes it is, but this page is unactive and usually users wait for get a rights much more than two weeks :( JenVan (talk) 13:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Obvious vandalism can be reverted by people in the global rollback group. If you want assistance, you may also bring up a discussion to allow the global sysop group access to the project in order to let you have a day off once in a while. Currently, the global sysop group does not have this access.

If the local users approve your request for rights, generally there are two routes you may take:

1. For no votes to four, typically people are granted temporary adminship.
2. For five or more votes, people are typically granted permanent adminship

You may also want to consider, if you get more than (say) ten votes, implementing both the global sysop group and a sort of "remove on inactivity" clause, so that any future editor running into this problem has an easier time of it. Always try to think of what is the best for the project. Have a wonderful day. Kylu 13:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

See my comment above JenVan (talk) 13:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I read it and already realize this. You have not yet posted a request there at all, however. Once you have done this and waited a week, leave your request at Steward requests/Permissions#Administrator access please. If nothing has been done in a year or however long, another week or two isn't much to ask, is it? Kylu 16:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Done: Steward requests/Permissions#JenVan@ruwikibooks. Leave, please, your comment in that discussion. JenVan (talk) 11:49, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

SRP

Please see my comment on SRP#Ruben@hywiki. Thanks :) --dferg ^{☎ talk} 21:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Requesting some help

Would like a little bit of mentoring on my welcoming attempt for a newbie on en:WP which went awrie. Request it be on my meta:wiki talk page or by email but off my en:WP talk page and also not here. I didnt quite understand what went wrong. AshLin 04:18, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I really appreciate your help. You have been very kindand helpful in the past also. Wish you werent off Wikipedia.

I have given the details of the incident on my Meta talk page. I think I was rude with my first choice of words and that put everyone off. Tell me how to handle things better next time. AshLin 03:52, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Please see my response on my talk page. Happy editing. AshLin 17:58, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Help needed in Sinhala Wikipedia!

Hi Kylu, we are having some issues with enabling edit notices in our project. Would it be possible for you to help us in locating and fixing what’s wrong there? --Lee 05:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

You forgot to include the editnotice load template into the root editnotice pages, see si:විකිපීඩියා:Editnotice#Technical_details -- I'll help more soonish, when I get more time. Kylu 13:05, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, that’s what I’ve been missing big time. Now it seems most of the ones are working. :-)--Lee 04:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hi Kylu. I have once asked at RFH for the above flag, and I was asked to contact an administrator directly. I would like to ask you if you could flag me with this; I would like my edits to be marked patrolled whenever I edit here, to minimize any extra work in reviewing. For reference, I am an active editor at English Wikipedia and Commons, and am a reviewer, autopatroller, and rollbacker there. Kind regards. Rehman 14:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not really a huge deal here, but Done Kylu 14:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Just trying to make things a bit easier :) Kind regards. Rehman 15:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Confirmation Q&A

Answers to questions you've not yet asked:

• Yes, really. No, I'm not kidding.
• Because you can only go so long in a position like this before you get burnt out. Wikibreaks aren't really helping much.
• No, you can't simply have the permissions transferred to you. You have to go through your own election.
• Meta admin and bureaucrat permissions will be handled separately, as will global rollback.

Have a nice day. Kylu 03:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

More information!

Please use the diff of this message to confirm this request:

• Done I am currently subscribed to a number of sensitive mail-lists, including (but not limited to) oversight-l, checkuser-l, and steward-l. As I subscribed to these only in my capacity as steward (though with prior access to checkuser-l due to en.wikipedia access), please remove my subscriptions to minimize the distribution of these lists to unauthorized persons (like, oh... myself).
• Done Please note that I will be deleting my records, including local text files, spreadsheets, and maillist archives, related to these functions. The weird jpg of Jimbo's head pasted on Erika Eleniak's body (the one with the red swimsuit) is getting distributed to one of the alt.humor related newsgroups, though. Then it'll be deleted, as I value my eyesight.
•  On hold I have not (yet?) requested removal of Meta adminship or bureaucratship, CVN-related access, various shell accounts, nor my toolserver access. I'm quite considering concentrating on my programming for a while, and it's a bit more marketable skill than "I know how to use steward rights on Wikimedia projects" I imagine.
• Done IRC folks: Don't forget to remove steward-related rights from the steward and staff related channels, as applicable.

Ja mata. Kylu 02:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

• Updated. Kylu 05:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Importer

Hi Kylu. Per this discussion, could you flag my Commons account with the "Importer" flag? I also noticed that not even bureaucrats could assign this flag; is there any "risks" that I should consider when using this flag? Rehman 23:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, if you want you can make quite a mess, see e.g. Help:Import#Editing_the_import_file, or just importing a bunch of unneded pages (I don't know what's the current limit), and other things you have already been told. If you're not careful enough you may need to split/merge some histories. Anyway, I think that Kylu will agree that it's better if you ask at SRP. I suggest you to specify what you need to test and if you need the flag only temporarily. --Nemo 13:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Administrators at Commons are already flagged with import, which I find it sufficient if I ever need to test/import anything. I am requesting importupload purely for random testing purposes (and not really even sure to test what), so I think, considering the facts above, I don't really need this flag... I will request at SRP if I ever need this flag. Thanks for taking the time to respond. :) Kind regards. Rehman 16:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up, Nemo. I don't really expect to do a whole lot of steward activity between now and the end of the confirmation, so anyone wanting assistance should consider checking with someone else please. Kylu 01:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

wikimedia-admin

Hello!

I've during the last few days completely cleaned out the access list of our IRC admin channel. Per this clean up, we've also updated and re-organized the on-wiki record of this channel here. This list is now exactly the same as the access list on IRC. Please always remember to update this list when making changes to the channel on IRC. It's just a reminder. Best, -Barras 12:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Replied, primarily so I know at a glance it's not a new section.

I vaguely wonder if I'll be keeping this access since I'm leaving steward-dom, and why I have it when I never visit in the first place, but whichever.

Also, check the list for "$a" and "\n" ... I suspect formatting errors, but CBA to check at the moment. :) Kylu 15:23, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

pls update si:පරිශීලක:Kylu/shortpages page

Hi,

I have start a cleanup process in Sinhala Wikipedia. So could you please update that page. I might find some short articles to be deleted.

Thank you!

-- බිඟුවා ^{සාකච්ඡාව} 04:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Done [13] Kylu 05:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. -- බිඟුවා ^{සාකච්ඡාව} 05:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

IP block exemption

You’ve helped me before with an IP block exemption. I’m blocked again, it seems. Could you please look into this? --Babelfisch 08:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Left a note with Risker about this. I don't much edit EnWP anymore, but her page gets a few views, so I suspect it'll be reviewed soon. If not, she'll see the note soon enough. :) Kylu 16:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks and sorry to bother you with this. The problem has apparently been solved, but I still wonder why MuZemike revoked the IP block exemption in the first place. --Babelfisch 02:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Apparently EnWP felt, at some point in time, that there were too many users with IPBE, so they went about removing them to find who actually needed the rights (as opposed to a large number of folks who just like to have collections of rights that they can show off.) Kylu 02:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I understand now that it was an oversight. I hope it won't happen again. It had taken Wikipedia bureaucrats more than a year to come up with this solution, so I was dismayed when it was suddenly reversed. I was afraid I might be blocked again for many months and have endless discussions with administrators who regard users from China as “acceptable collateral damage”. Thanks for your concern. --Babelfisch 01:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Best of luck, Babelfisch. Kylu 02:53, 4 March 2011 (UTC)