Zara-arush
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List of Abuses and Name-calling
edit- [history·localspace·local admins | listadmins | delete] az.wikipedia: Anahit - an Armenian heathen deity of fertility and maternity en:Anahit
- [history·localspace·local admins | listadmins | delete] az.wikipedia: Ermənilər#Məşhur ermənilər - a list of famous Armenians en:Armenians
List of Appropriations of Foreign Cultural Inheritance
edit- [history·localspace·local admins | listadmins | delete] az.wikipedia: Moisey Kalankatlı - an Armenian historian of 7th c. en:Movses Kaghankatvatsi
- [history·localspace·local admins | listadmins | delete] az.wikipedia: Babək Xürrəmi - a Persian revolutionary leader of 9th c. en:Babak Khorramdin
- [history·localspace·local admins | listadmins | delete] az.wikipedia: Qətran Təbrizi - a Persian poet of 11th c. en:Qatran Tabrizi
- [history·localspace·local admins | listadmins | delete] az.wikipedia: Nizami Gəncəvi - a Persian poet of 12th c. en:Nezami Ganjavi
My posts from Forum
editDear Users, I asked the administrators of Azerbaijani Wikipedia to express their attitude to the content of Anais article: [1]. They did not reply me, then I wrote the similar requests at the personal pages of all the administrators of Azerbaijani Wikipedia. Again there is no reply. Previously, I asked qustions and tried to discuss the content of this article with its main editor and creator (User: Gulistan) in Russian Wkipedia's Azerbaijan project discussion page. But his replies contradict to the recommendations to the sources and citations. Wy do I consider that this article and this content should be deleted? This article is about Anahit - an Armenian pagan deity of fertility and maternity that was worshipped by the Armenians 2,000 years ago before 301, when Armenia adopted Christianity as state religion. The academic sources characterize Anahit as deity or goddess of fertility and maternity. But a psychiatrist Cesare Lambroso, who worked out the theory on the heredity of the inclination to commit crimes, i.e the criminals are born criminals. and Azerbaijani user Gulistan giving links to his work in psychiatrics several times names Anahit deity "a goddess of prostitution" that she had never been please do not mix the sacred prostitution with the modern prostittion). By the way, the Oghuz tribes in Iron Age also had a deity of nature and fertility that is proved by the petroglyphs found in Altay mountains and folklore rites that were recorded by several authors. Moreover user Gulistant giving the link to an article of Russian historian Izmailova, uses only the citation of Strabo (1st century AD) that Izmailova mentioned. But he did not use any definition of goddess Anahit, applied by Izmailova in her article (she names her an ancient Armenian goddess of fertility and maternity). I will not continue my explanation, because it will take more space here and your time, but this content has political goals that is very far from the aims that Wikipedia was created. And one more detail: this user was blocked in Russian Wikipedia for placing abusive articles against Russian Wikipedia, the administrators, Arbitration Committee and users, publishing a user's pics and personal data [2]. So, I would like to know your recommendations and receive any assistance for the deletion of this schovinistic and abusive article. If anyone wants to receive his or her own opinion and check my words, one may translate the named article from Azerbaijani to English with the help of Google translator. Here is the link to Anais article [3] The link to my contributions page in Azerbaijani Wikipedia [4] Link to the discussion in Russian Wikipedia: [5]. Thank you in advance for your recommendations, Zara-arush (talk) 11:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC) PS: There are new comments to the new edits in the article [6] Zara-arush (talk) 14:42, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you all, who participated in the solution of this matter and deletion of the unproper content article from Azerbaijani Wikipedia. My special thanks to user Sortilegus. I hope it was a good experience for all, who participated, and the cooperation shall be continued. Best wishes, Zara-arush (talk) 20:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Anais article with its abusive content was recovered proving that what is wrong in Azerbaijani Wikipedia is not my fantasy. I understand it as the sign that Azerbaijani Wikipedia entered in edit war and other provocative activities against me, -- Zara-arush (talk) 11:13, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- If the community consider that they need time to improve the content, I will wait for. Thanks to Google translator I may enjoy their discussion. Very interesting, I may say. Now they are in search for other sources besides Strabo and Chesare Lambroso to prove that the Armenians worshipped prostitutes more than 2,000 years ago. OK, let's wait, Zara-arush (talk) 00:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- After several days, when the Azerbaijani division admins and users working on improving the named article, there are some changes: 1) the word for "prostitute" is mentioned 7 times in the text with the link to the article on modern prostitutes. 2) several lnks were added, including personal blogs and an article of some Russian writer, holding the dinploma in engineering, as well as a book "Story of Phallicism" (1927). 3) a better quality pics of the bronze image of Armenian goddess of fertility and maternity, medicine and wisdom were added, 4) the title of the article was from "Anais" changed to the true name "Anahit. If this may be considered an improvemnt, I have no words for further comments. So, it means that none of my explanations were considered, and none of the admins was interested in reading English division articles with the corresponding content to see, how the deities of fertility are represented in other divisions and in the mainstream historic science. Zara-arush (talk) 15:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Though I was told that none seriously treat what is written here, I shall add one more of the abuses that I found in AzerWiki. According to AzerWiki there are only 3 prominent Armenians in the world and all 3 are pornostar girls to the contrary to outstanding Azerbaijanis that are Nobel prize winners, famous sportsmen and warriors! Believe, I am not joking, they really write such articles in AzerWiki! Of course, it is great that you give them such a strong tool that they employ with maximum utility! Zara-arush (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- After several days, when the Azerbaijani division admins and users working on improving the named article, there are some changes: 1) the word for "prostitute" is mentioned 7 times in the text with the link to the article on modern prostitutes. 2) several lnks were added, including personal blogs and an article of some Russian writer, holding the dinploma in engineering, as well as a book "Story of Phallicism" (1927). 3) a better quality pics of the bronze image of Armenian goddess of fertility and maternity, medicine and wisdom were added, 4) the title of the article was from "Anais" changed to the true name "Anahit. If this may be considered an improvemnt, I have no words for further comments. So, it means that none of my explanations were considered, and none of the admins was interested in reading English division articles with the corresponding content to see, how the deities of fertility are represented in other divisions and in the mainstream historic science. Zara-arush (talk) 15:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- If the community consider that they need time to improve the content, I will wait for. Thanks to Google translator I may enjoy their discussion. Very interesting, I may say. Now they are in search for other sources besides Strabo and Chesare Lambroso to prove that the Armenians worshipped prostitutes more than 2,000 years ago. OK, let's wait, Zara-arush (talk) 00:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Anais
editHello Zara-arush, it seems that your concerns have been resolved -- I am glad. Let me know if there is any need for any further attention. –SJ · talk | translate 13:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, it was a good experience. I would like to continue this activity and check and correct similar content related cases. I would like to know who I may contact, first of all to learn about the rules, and what content of abusive or falsified content shall be of the prime attention. I know several European langauges, so I may be useful, as an editor or a checker or a translator. Thank you for your assistance. Best wishes, -- Zara-arush (talk) 15:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
My deleted Request for speedy deletion text:
edit[history·localspace·local admins | listadmins | delete] az.wikipedia: Anais
I am not sure I write in the proper place. If not please place this request in the proper place.
I wrote already about Anais article in Azerbaijani language Wikipedia, then the article I asked to delete because of its abusive content was deleted. The next day the same abusive content was recovered. I wrote about it in several pages, including Meta Forum [7]. There may be political contradictions around one or anoter article in the different langauge divisions, but not of such an abusive content. I consider the content of Anais article and the administration of Azerbaijani language Wikipedia activities contradicting to the published rules of Wikipedia. I hope still that Wikipedia is not the proper tool for calling names to the nation that other nation is in conflict. Best wishes, Zara-arush (talk) 11:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Did you try to contact Vago, the local sysop who restored the page Anais ? -- Quentinv57 18:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- I wrote before the deletion to all the admins. But in case you could read and translate what they write at the discussion page, you might write me another recommendation. I hope Wikipedia has the similar rules in all the divisions towards the content I ask to delete. There no political content in the article they named by a French name Anais, though the name of Armenian deity of fertility is Anahit. Other admin published there some demands, relating to political issues and their falsificaion of the identity of Persian poet Nizami. Then they offer to add content on the state of prostitution in modern Armenia, they write about Armenian terrorists that constantly attack the site of the creator of this abusive content, who was blocked in Russian Wikipedia for abusing Arbitration Committee of RU Wiki, etc. I hope Wikipedia is not an Eastern bazaar, where the people may trade "bash-to-bash". I discussed with them the abusive content based on calling names to a pagan goddess that they treat as a symbol of any Armenian woman. They even added the word prostitute in the places where it was fertility. Thank you for you reply, yes, I am brave enough, but I am not used to enter at this type of debates, Zara-arush (talk) 20:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Subsectioned. Please note that this page is for non-controversial deletions primarily on projects with no local administrators.Kylu 21:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Comments of User Rovshan.95
editHi! Zara, how can you say that, Nizami, Babak and Qatran is persian? Somebody cannot say that. Because, in the middle ages in Azerbaijan all people spoke in Persian. But it is dont mean that they were persian. All Azerbaijani poets who lived in the middle ages only wrote in persian. Best Regard --Rovshan.95 06:39, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your question. I do not know what is your mother tongue, and if you speak Russian, but there are articles in English and Russian Divisions of Wikipedia where all the given data is supported by the citations of West European and US academic authors. Even if I had any opinion of my own relating to any theme or event described in a Wikipedia article, it is not permitted to enter any user's private opinion in a WP article, if the same opinion is not supported by an academic researcher or author. Thank you anyhow for you remark, -- Zara-arush (talk) 22:07, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Fundraising translation feedback
editHey Zara-arush,
I wanted to ask for your help. As you may be aware we have been running banners on many language wikis. We have a lot of new content this year and I really want to conduct a thorough review of our translations. This is a combination of feedback from the community, readers, donors as well as those with professional translator experience. This will help us ensure the highest quality of translations used in our messaging.
To help us out with this I wonder if you would be willing to give us feedback for Russian using This Link
Simply follow the simple instructions on that page and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page.
Many Thanks
In urgent need for Armenian language help
editDear sir,
I have been a Wikipedia reader/contributor for a while but this is not a request/question regarding Wikipedia issues.
I'm an Iranian classical singer and we have decided to sing an Armenian piece composed by Vardapaet Komitas, named: ″Sertik malul, mi mna″. We are in urgent need of a native Armenian who can give help us with the pronunciation of the piece. May I send you the lyric and the parts that we are unsure of the correct pronunciation please?
Or can I ask you to introduce me an Armenian person who can dedicate a part of their time to help us do this? Regards Princilll (talk) 07:13, 15 May 2016 (UTC)