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Benvenuto/a!Edit

Ciao Elitre (WMF)! Un benvenuto da parte mia sulla Meta-Wiki di Wikimedia! Questo sito serve a coordinare e discutere di tutti i progetti Wikimedia. Potrebbe esserti utile leggere le nostre policy (in inglese). Se sei interessato a fare traduzioni, visita Meta:Babylon. Puoi anche lasciare un messaggio su Meta:Babel o Wikimedia Forum (ma per favore, leggi le istruzioni che si trovano all'inizio della pagina prima di scrivere). Se vuoi, puoi lasciarmi un messaggio nella mia pagina di discussione. Buona fortuna!

--Ricordisamoa 12:32, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Ciao, Elitre: ti spiego le mie possibilità e forze..Edit

Ciao, cara Elitre,.. che forza "essere parlate" da un'altra umana, collega emiliana, per di più donna, qua dentro!!.. Perchè oramai credevo di essere l'unica, scusa se mi esprimo così, secchiona imbranata, attaccata a 'valori' semplici, ma forse non poi così tanto condivisibili.. Pazienza,.. Ti spiego in poche parole la mia posizione, se avrai la bontà di non annoiarTi: ultimamente mi sento ispirata, oltre che dalla voglia di incrementare gli artt. della 'mia' eml.wikipedia, dalla obiettiva e personale necessità di approfondire l'argomento troppo nuovo della 'nanotecnologia' e di quello che gli ruota intorno, bisogno (dovrei farcela) dovuto alla ahimè forse incauta promessa della mia figlia grande (15 years old) alla sua prof di eseguire, durante la pausa estiva, una tale relazione scritta, per di più in inglese.. Ora chiaramente lei teme di non farcela, e la mamma credo che dovrà aiutarla almeno a presentare una ricerchetta anche solo per non smentirsi davanti alla prof...: mio obiettivo nr 1: la ricerchetta sulle nanotech; a pari merito, al 2°) posto, gli artt. in eml e la traduzione che mi hai chiesto; il tutto chiaramente al di fuori dell'orario di lavoro, dei lavori di casa, dei nonni da accudire dovutamente senza molti altri aiuti.. Il tempo che potrò dedicare alla traduzione che mi ciedi? Diciamo 3 o 4 paragrafi ogni 12 ore.. soprattutto se prima l'hanno già tradotta i francesi, visto che in Francia mi sento molto più ferrata!! Ma com' è la Tua storia? Scusa l' invadenza (simpa la Tua foto nella Tua pagina), ma quindi Te lavori per la Foundation? Inevitabile, visto che siamo in argomento: stipendiata? Perdonami, a presto, --Gloria sah (talk) 21:20, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Ciao, carissima, sai che cliccando sul collegamento del collega italiano Kirk39, non mi sembra di trovare riferimenti alla pagina del manuale cui Ti stai riferendo? Hai qualche collegamento più diretto, oppure dovrò chiedere a lui, di spartire con me quella traduzione? A presto, --Gloria sah (talk) 22:09, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

traduzione e VisualEditorEdit

Ti devo confessare che nel corso che ho fatto il 16 e 17 scorsi non ho dato bella prova sull'editor; ma prometto che per il corso della prossima settimana mi preparo meglio. Ho notato per esempio che dopo aver inserito un link non è esplicito cosa fare? non c'è bottole da clickare, ma se non ho capito male si deve solo dare invio. Per le traduzioni quando hai bisogno segnalamele. Ciao Susanna --Giaccai (talk) 06:07, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

ReplyEdit

Hai un nuovo messaggio alla mia pagina di discussione. Ciao, --Smihael (talk) 15:03, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor updatesEdit

Please help translate this message.

 
We recommend that community champions translate the newsletter and post it to local Village Pumps or relevant noticeboards.
  • The Wikimedia Foundation's engineering department holds monthly office hours to discuss VisualEditor. Please join Product Manager James Forrester to discuss the products and upcoming plans in April.
Saturday 2014-04-19, at 20:00 UTC.
The discussion will be on IRC (w:Internet Relay Chat) at irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-office. For more information on office hours, including how to attend, please see m:IRC office hours. Logs will be posted at Meta afterwards.
If office hours are heavily attended, it can be difficult to get to all questions, but if you want to ask a question and cannot attend or do not speak English, then please let us know your question on mediawiki.org by the day before, and someone will add it to possible discussion topics.
  • VisualEditor has changed a lot recently, and you didn't notice it? You can be alerted to major updates on your own talk page, thanks to the newsletter! Less "technical" than the regular status updates delivered at mediawiki.org, it's a good way to keep up to date with changes. Sign up now to make sure you get the next issue.
  • Did you know? There are just 2 URLs to check if you want to learn how your language is doing with regards to translation for VisualEditor's interface or help pages. Is it in the green (good!) area, or in the red (baaad!) one? Find out now, then click on your language code to update the translations!
Interface
Help pages
--Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:31, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter, 23 April 2014Edit

Did you know?

You can use VisualEditor to make a redirect. First, remove any unwanted content from the page. Then go to the "Page options" menu (next to "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cancel⧽") and choose the "Page settings" item. Click the box to "Redirect this page to". In the box, type in the name of the page that you want to redirect this page to.

You can also set or remove categories for the redirect in the "Page options" menu. Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.

  • In an oft-requested improvement, VisualEditor now displays red links (links to non-existent pages) in the proper color. Links to sister projects and external URLs are still the same blue as local links.
  • You can now open templates by double-clicking them or by selecting them and pressing   Return.  This also works for references, images, galleries, mathematical equations, and other "nodes".
  • VisualEditor has been disabled for pages that were created as translations of other pages using the Translate extension (common at Meta and MediaWiki.org). If a page has been marked for translation, you will see a warning if you try to edit it using VisualEditor.
  • When you try to edit protected pages with VisualEditor, the full protection notice and most recent log entry are displayed. Blocked users see the standard message for blocked users.
  • The developers fixed a bug that caused links on sub-pages to point to the wrong location.
  • The size-changing controls in the advanced settings section of the media or image dialog were simplified further. VisualEditor's media dialog supports more image display styles, like borderless images.
  • If there is not enough space on your screen to display all of the tabs (for instance, if your browser window is too narrow), the second edit tab will now fold into the drop-down menu (where the "Move" item is currently housed). On the English Wikipedia, this moves the "Edit beta" tab into the menu; on most projects, it moves the "Edit source" tab. This is only enabled in the default Vector skin, not for Monobook users. See this image for an example showing the "Edit source" and "View history" tabs after they moved into the drop-down menu.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed as an opt-in feature at Meta and on the French Wikinews.
 
The drop-down menu is on the right, next to the search box.

Looking ahead:  A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the next office hours on Monday, 19 May 2014 at 18:00 UTC.

If you'd like to get this on your own page, subscribe at m:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project (or at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only).

Thank you! -- Elitre (WMF), 17:24, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor global newsletter—June 2014Edit

Did you know?

The character formatting menu, or "Style text" menu lets you set bold, italic, and other text styles. "Clear formatting" removes all text styles and removes links to other pages.

Do you think that clear formatting should remove links? Are there changes you would like to see for this menu? Share your opinion at MediaWiki.org.

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor.

The VisualEditor team is mostly working to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.

  • They have moved the "Keyboard shortcuts" link out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Within dialog boxes, buttons are now more accessible (via the Tab key) from the keyboard.
  • You can now see the target of the link when you click on it, without having to open the inspector.
  • The team also expanded TemplateData: You can now add a parameter type  "date" for dates and times in the ISO 8601 format, and  "boolean" for values which are true or false. Also, templates that redirect to other templates (like {{citeweb}}{{cite web}}) now get the TemplateData of their target (bug 50964). You can test TemplateData by editing mw:Template:Sandbox/doc.
  • Category: and File: pages now display their contents correctly after saving an edit (bug 65349, bug 64239)
  • They have also improved reference editing: You should no longer be able to add empty citations with VisualEditor (bug 64715), as with references. When you edit a reference, you can now empty it and click the "use an existing reference" button to replace it with another reference instead. 
  • It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor. Remember that inline images cannot display captions, so existing captions get removed. Many other bugs related to images were also fixed.
  • You can now add and edit {{DISPLAYTITLE}} and __DISAMBIG__ in the "Page options" menu, rounding out the full set of page options currently planned.
  • The tool to insert special characters is now wider and simpler.

Looking aheadEdit

The VisualEditor team has posted a draft of their goals for the next fiscal year. You can read them and suggest changes on MediaWiki.org.

The team posts details about planned work on VisualEditor's roadmap. You will soon be able to drag-and-drop text as well as images. If you drag an image to a new place, it won't let you place it in the middle of a paragraph. All dialog boxes and windows will be simplified based on user testing and feedback. The VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for citations. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments and adding rows and columns to tables.

Supporting your wikiEdit

Please read VisualEditor/Citation tool for information on configuring the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". This menu will not appear unless it has been configured on your wiki.

If you speak a language other than English, we need your help with translating the user guide. The guide is out of date or incomplete for many languages, and what's on your wiki may not be the most recent translation. Please contact us if you need help getting started with translation work on MediaWiki.org.

VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Saturday, 19 July 2014 at 21:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas and Pacific Islands) or on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 9:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East, Asia).

To change your subscription to this newsletter, please see the subscription pages on Meta or the English Wikipedia. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF) 14:57, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor global newsletter—July and August 2014Edit

The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.

 
Dialog boxes in VisualEditor have been re-designed to use action words instead of icons. This has increased the number of items that need to be translated. The user guide is also being updated.

The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.

  • Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
  • You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
  • All references and footnotes (<ref> tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "Insert" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "Insert" menu.
  • When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
  • All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
  • The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
  • The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.

Looking aheadEdit

The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables; you can already provide feedback about the design workflow. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.

Feedback opportunitiesEdit

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).

If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF), 17:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Mediaviewer EditEdit

Thank you for reverting that, it was probably a poor idea. I'm just very frustrated. I'm in the minority of users who like Mediaviewer, but think that WMF should implement the consensus for the RfCs. I think its a great tool though and the focus of Talk:Community Engagement (Product)/Media Viewer consultation needs to be on how to improve it not how much everyone hates it. If you can think of a better way to get that across to people, I'd really love that. I usually ignore all drama, but between Meta, en.wp, de.wp, Commons, and wikitech-l its been hard to do. Frustrated sleep deprived person is frustrated. Zellfaze (talk) 11:15, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

TraduzioniEdit

Semplicemente perché non trovo accettabile che pagine così importanti non siano tradotte in italiano. L'altro giorno entrando nella wikipedia italiana ho visto l'avviso della consultazione e l'ho seguito per curiosità. Ho visto che mancava poco al completamento allora ho cominciato, un paragrafo qui, uno là, ... e dalle traduzioni in Meta sono finito in Media. Spero che la voglia non mi passi, sono un pò umorale... Aquatech (talk) 16:45, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Grazie! E grazie anche per la segnalazione. No, non mi ero iscritto perché all'inizio non credevo che avrei continuato a tradurre. A questo punto lo farò molto volentieri! Ciao! Aquatech (talk) 12:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
No, ho deciso di dedicarmi alle pagine più basilari di questa wiki, tipo Wikimedia Foundation, sua struttura, eccetera e di procedere un argomento alla volta (per esempio tra qui e Media ho tradotto tutto (credo) quello che riguardava Media Viewer prima di passare oltre). Ciao! Aquatech (talk) 06:21, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor available on Internet Explorer 11Edit

VisualEditor will become available to users of Microsoft Internet Explorer 11 during today's regular software update. Support for some earlier versions of Internet Explorer is being worked on. If you encounter problems with VisualEditor on Internet Explorer, please contact the Editing team by leaving a message at VisualEditor/Feedback on Mediawiki.org. Happy editing, Elitre (WMF) 07:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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You asked on ru:, " did you get a notification of this ping?" - no. The last notifications are dated Sep. 11, 6 and 4 (not pings), the last ping was Aug. 20. - Retired electrician (talk) 13:48, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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Ovtober VisualEditor Newsletter translationEdit

Ciao Elitre, non ho ancora finito la traduzione tedesca: Qual'è la differenza tra "reference" e "citation"? Grazie, --Gnom (talk) 11:52, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Inoltre, siccome non sono un wiki-traduttore con tanta esperienza, son so tanto bene come fonzionano le espressioni "$"... --Gnom (talk) 12:07, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Okay, fatto! --Gnom (talk) 13:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #8—2014Edit

09:41, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #8—2014Edit

09:46, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

VE newsletterEdit

We, the Korean Wikipedia has own venue for technology-related VP (VPT) at ko:백:기술 - please send newsletter to there next time. — revi 09:56, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to tell you that kowiki VPT uses monthy-subpage (so delivery page should be (main page)/2020년 11월). Sorry for the mess created by miscommunication! — revimsg 00:49, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Why VEEdit

Hi, on plwiki, we have a serious problem related to VE. Personally, I'm enthusiastic about the changes, but more and more experienced contributors ask me: why VE? if we don't need this, why do you claim the newbies do? Is there any research, any verifiable, detailed data that would confirm or deny following theses?

  1. The newbies prefer VE than the source editor and they are more likely to stay after some experience with VE.
  2. VE as default while clicking on a red link (veaction=edit instead of action=edit, 1st link over there) with no expressed local consensus = POV and violation of rules.
  3. VE should be linked from pages like ↑ that (MediaWiki namespace, helppages etc.), otherwise it won't work despite its technical availability (won't be used often enough by the newbies, who btw find the interface to be quite confusing).
  4. If enwiki doesn't let IPs to create new articles and some other big wikis have red links with action=edit as default everywhere, there's no need to act in another way.
  5. Only local community is allowed to accept or reject every software change.

If you think someone else has better knowledge/more links etc., ping her/him, please. Thanks a lot. Tar Lócesilion|queta! 19:55, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, it is very helpful. I'll be extremely grateful for any more data. Like a big corporation: we don't have to hide info, we just don't communicate effectively. Maybe we report few our actions, maybe we report it wrong, maybe we promote the existing reports insufficiently. I have this problem locally: to keep working and doing my best, or to report (oh no, personally) and work more slowly (= waste my time?).
A funny fact, despite keeping in touch with Bartosz Dziewoński (we often collaborate) I had no idea about, for instance, the impact expectations and default in 2015 (Q1 review, slide 7). So VE is not default yet. But still (I ask myself) is it main/primary on our wiki (ofc in main ns), or is it just linked in the 1st tab? (As 'Edit', before 'Edit source'). So should we recommend it broadly? Many power users 'appreciate the choice', prefer wikicode and their compromise is to put both links. Their argument is: VE doesn't aim to encourage newbies at the expence of existing users. Meanwhile, I suppose, newbies don't like too much choice situations, because they get into a labyrinth[research needed]. Well, there we have our goals and generally #moreresearch. Btw, Abbey's survey results suprised me. Only 39 responses? it was so easy! even I, a single local volunteer, can get more responses, it's just matter of... communication :>
As for the office hours, I'll come. Tar Lócesilion|queta! 00:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Some kind of research needs only a few participants, but sometimes, there might be slight differences between users of different wikis. I don't know whether all significant research are done with representative sample. I took part in the survey, btw. During James' presentation, I was in the audience and remember that most of all, the presentation answered general questions (no surprise). The team improves VE and it's +1, but as you can see, what interests me is how to deal with VE. I'm planning to ask our VE-sceptics for their feedback. We'll see... Tar Lócesilion|queta! 10:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Yup, actually, I've sent her one e-mail on Saturday, it was about research tools. Without payment, I can set max 30 cards in the programme she uses, and I need more than 50. Ofc I don't want to pay $1000.
Well, there are many ways to contact me. Wikis, e-mail, IRC, Facebook, as you wish. Tar Lócesilion|queta! 12:33, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Look at this. I asked the most experienced users for feedback about VE. 1. Do you use VE (ofc mostly, we don't), 2. if you prefer to have it opt-out in prefs, why, 3. what are your remarks, what disturbs you. Answers are interesting from their very beginning. Tar Lócesilion|queta! 13:01, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
True, many users know nothing about changes in VE. Yesterday one of our most productive tech-power users was complaining about editing infoboxes, because... he had no idea about changes in TemplateData. But some concerns actually exclude VE, e.g. editing offline, HotCat and similar tools, find and replace & regexes. Too much dialogs, choosing and clicking vs. copy and paste some code. Besides, habits and no need to learn sth new that is in beta phase. Tar Lócesilion|queta! 14:27, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Fellow Tar missed several other important issues reported during discussion at Look at this above, so I will put them here. Acceptance for VE among experienced editors is low, as we put simplicity yet versatility and speed of editing wikicode over visual editing. The issues raised were: poor or very poor performance on slower machines or using slower connections, much higher resource use (on my computer up to tenfold compared to a medium class text editor with highlighting), no or limited support for several major citing templates (like Odn, R or classic HTML ref, which does not obscure the results in search results, contrary to the R reference template), limited support for less popular, but still major Web browsers as Opera, no toolbox with special but useful signs (different styles of hyphens, Celsius etc., available in classic wikitext editor). Last but not least: usability without a mouse drops substantially. As wikieditor is an immanent part of Mediawiki software, there is no need to switch it off, as long there are contributors willing to make use of it (and there are). Bonvol (talk) 19:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Visual Editor News Posting on Occitan WikipediaEdit

Ciao,

Our Occitan-language "Tavèrna" (community discussion) is getting news in English about VE. We'd really appreciate you post those news to the "Tavèrna dels non-occitanofòns" instead. Thanks in advance.

Regards, --Jfblanc (talk) 09:02, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the move. As of today, the few of us active editors on the Occitan wp do not have the necessary "bandwidth" to translate this newsletter. This is the reason why I requested the move ;( Grazie mille. Saluti cordiali, --Jfblanc (talk) 10:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Bug description at Romanian Village pumpEdit

Hi, Elitre. Here are the details of the bug I want to report. Thank you!–Minisarm (talk) 20:41, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Ready for translation: VisualEditor News #9—2014Edit

Ti ringrazio per l'invito (e di esserti ricordata di me!), ma ultimamente ho veramente poco tempo a disposizione e ho ridotto all'osso la mia presenza sulle wiki. Spero di essere più utile in futuro. Ciao! Aquatech (talk) 10:06, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

About research programEdit

Hey! :)

I saw that there's a research program announcement at VisualEditor/Newsletter/2014/November. Do you know is it the same research program that was made at the time (or the end) of Wikimania? I remember that I answered that kind of questions earlier, so I don't want to make it again, if it's the same. Thanks! --Stryn (talk) 18:14, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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REEdit

Addirittura? :D *blush*--Nnvu (talk) 19:32, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #9—2014Edit

23:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

RE: traduzioneEdit

Ciao Elitre, mi scuso ma pensavo che funzionasse come il wiki. Starò più attenta la prossima volta. Ciao --93.45.105.58 14:46, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Visual Editor NewsletterEdit

Hi Elitre, I read in the newsletter that the documentation pages in several languages are outdated. I just noticed that even the English one is outdated. It is essential that the English version is complete. All the options for type in the template documentation editor should be described because it is now a mystery when to use for example "line", etc. In the past I have noticed this multiple times, the basic English documentation is not updated. Something in the workflow is not working...
Also the English type names are vague, a number of the Dutch type names are even worse. I can't solve that as I do not understand the English ones, which aren't described either.
So if I may give you a suggestion, please solve these two issues. Thanks! Romaine (talk) 08:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Greetings and... requestEdit

Greetings Elitre. I'd be grateful if you could please delete the page I just created by mistake (Translations:Community Engagement (Product)/Product Surveys/1/qqq) when tweaking the survey page in Spanish (or arrange for it to be deleted). Many thanx. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 19:50, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

RE: NesletterEdit

Oh, niente di che. Non è necessario specificare l'accento se la parola non può essere confusa in italiano. Diciamo che Chrome mi ha quasi obbligato a togliere l'accento xD.--Nnvuα†Ω 12:26, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, sì, vero anche questo. Possiamo anche rimetterlo, allora :D Ops, ho fatto copia-incolla di itwiki e non ho cambiato i link. Grazie per l'avvio ;)--Nnvuα†Ω 12:33, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Newsletter translatorEdit

As stated in the newsletter I can contact you for direct notifications about the newsletter translation. Please notify me, and please feel free to do so for any other high priority (or not) VisualEditor related translations, @meta, @el.wiki or @el.wikisource. Thank you. —Ah3kal (talk) 07:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #10—2014Edit

18:56, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy new years 2015Edit

    Happy New Year Elitre (WMF)/Archive 1 --Grind24 (talk) 23:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor su WikibooksEdit

Buondì! Sono un utente di Wikibooks. Volevo sapere se fosse possibile richiedere l'implementazione di funzionalità di VisualEditor specifiche per un progetto: tempo fa la comunità di Wikibooks si è organizzata per far "rifiorire" il progetto, sistemandolo per una campagna di pubblicizzazione che dovrebbe portarvi nuovi utenti. Volevamo puntare sulla scuola, facendo diventare Wikibooks un luogo dove trovare anche eserciziari e libri di testo aggiornati. Tuttavia abbiamo un grosso problema: l'editing richiede tantissimo tempo e non è per nulla intuitivo. Rimuovendo questo problema renderemmo Wikibooks un sito perfetto per la pubblicazione di esercizi, appunti ecc. e ci stiamo adoperando per creare template e testo preformattato, rivedere le pagine di aiuto, creare video tutorial ecc. ma ora come ora il sito è molto difficile da usare.
VisualEditor per ora è impostato per Wikipedia, ma sarebbero necessarie altre funzioni (che sulla tabella di marcia sono lasciate ultime) come cambiare sfondo alle celle di una tabella, cambiare font, utilizzare intuitivamente span e div ecc. e sarebbe utilissimo automatizzare l'inserimento di template come Template:Ese, ancora in fase di programmazione ma indispensabile per creare gli eserciziari (esempio).
Saluti. --Riccardo R. 18:45, 3 gen 2015 (CET)

Scusa il ritardo di risposta. Sfortunatamente non conosco nessun programmatore ma mi sto adoperando da tempo per cercare e coinvolgere gente. Da un po' sto cercando anche di informarmi bene su VE ma non essendo pratico di Meta (e l'inglese non mi aiuta) ci sto impiegando un po'.
Le migliorie che richiedevo avevano due scopi: il primo è rendere veloce ed intuitivo fare quelle piccole e semplici cose che favorirebbero l'uso scolastico di WB, sfavorito invece dal lungo ed ostico lavoro di scrittura dei codici HTML.
In secondo luogo c'è una grande importanza didattica nel poter formattare il testo in modo da evidenziare le informazioni più importanti, isolare i concetti ed enfatizzarli, rendere più leggera la lettura e più facile l'assimilazione delle informazioni, nonché attirare l'attenzione degli studenti e rendere il materiale di Wikibooks più simile anche graficamente ai veri libri di testo. Pensa per esempio ad una tabella del genere con come sfondo di ogni cella la foto o il colore del risultato della reazione avvenuta, invece che la descrizione letterale. Con altri strumenti come Word o PowerPoint ciò è facilmente possibile mentre su Wikibooks costerebbe settimane di lavoro. --Riccardo R. 16:20, 7 gen 2015 (CET)
Grazie mille delle informazioni! Appena avrò una richiesta sufficientemente numerosa ti ricontatterò, nel frattempo mi sentirò anche coi membri attivi di Wikibooks. Grazie ancora! --Riccardo R. 20:47, 9 gen 2015 (CET)

How to remove the mandatory "load to commons" image feature from the oc wikipedia?Edit

Hello,

In France it is the last day for new year wishes, so all the best to you :)

I have lost the track of the message from some administrative user that explained we were no more needing the file upload feature in the Occitan wikipedia, and that we would now directly upload to commons. I'd like to revert this, as we are stick by some "copyright limitations" that do not apply to the en wikipedia, and that are not applicable, either, in the countries where Occitan is used.

For a specific example, we are unable to re-use the African Union symbols that are visible, for instance, in the English wikipedia, as they are local files not available in Commons.

I'm not sure you'll be able to perform the operation, but I'm pretty sure you will redirect this to the proper person. Isn't it?

Thanks in advance,

--Jfblanc (talk) 09:49, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #1—2015Edit

18:08, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

ca.wikiquoteEdit

Hi! The name of the ca.wikiquote village Pump is not q:ca:Viquidites:La tavernas. Is q:ca:Viquidites:La taverna (Without the ending s). Thanks for the reports! --Unapersona (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, maybe I can help... I'm not en-5, but I can translate a text :)--Unapersona (talk) 19:14, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

The translation is: La Fundació Wikimedia ha decidit les seves prioritats per aquest trimestre (De Gener a Març). La primera és preparar l'Editor Visual per activar-lo per defecte a tots els usuaris nous i anònims a tota la resta de Viquipèdies. Hi hauràn reunions setmanals obertes als voluntaris que començaràn el Dimecres 11 de febrer de 2015 a les 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Comunica al vice-president de la Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester i altres membres de l'equip quins bugs i funcionalitats són més importants per tu. Les decisions preses en aquestes reunions determinaran quina feina és necessària per l'objectiu d'aquest trimetre. La presència de voluntaris que gaudeixen contribuïnt en el codi MediaWiki és especialment apreciada. La informació sobre com formar part de la reunió serà publicada a mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal en breu, abans de que les reunions començin.

I don't know how to trandlate "Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager", but I whink that it is not necessary.--Unapersona (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Some questionsEdit

Hello,

  1. Where are the list of community page you deliver your messages?
  2. The owners of related projects to mediawiki seems not accepting patches from individuals, why is that? Is it because they think no-wikimedia employees shouldn't commit to projects?

Thank you. Mjbmr (discussioncontribs) 19:40, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Re:Edit

Like I had a problem with a wiki and since no one is willing to resolve bugs I tried to make a patch myself. Code review #186762 was reviewed and was issued some problem and after I fixed them in #186817 the person didn't try to review I know the person was active even I opened a ticket and didn't respond. The other issue I had and patched in #184290 the person tried to ignore it and vote down without any good reason. Mjbmr (discussioncontribs) 20:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

  1. #186762 #186817 (T88396)
  2. #184290 (T85959)

I know you're busy so I provided links for you. Also these might be interested for you T87646, T87140. Mjbmr (discussioncontribs) 21:16, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

T86505 and T86504 was closed unresolved. T78776 was also helpless. Mjbmr (discussioncontribs) 22:14, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi Mjbmr, thanks for your comment. As this covers more the engineering community aspects, I will try to answer here (I'm part of the mw:Engineering Community Team).
Looking at the 32 tasks that you have created in Maniphest (thanks for your help in making Wikimedia better!), 23 are closed as fixed and 4 are open. That's not too bad, congratulations! :)
Looking at phab:T78776#933965, you received feedback and the issue was investigated and resolved within a 52 hours. Could you elaborate why you considered it "helpless"? Regarding phab:T86504 you could ask again on the ticket if the problem has not been resolved for all pages, or ask for steps how to fix this yourself. In general, you can receive faster and better answers by providing exact steps to reproduce problems.
Looking at the patch review situation, you wrote that "in #184290 the person tried to ignore it and vote down without any good reason". Looking at that patchset, the comment for the -1 says "Missing message Qqq". To me that sounds like a reason; is something unclear with that message? If so, you might want to ask in Gerrit for clarification, or talk to the reviewer in person (e.g. on IRC). Also, the next comment states that a setting already exists. Just for your interest, both these commenters do not work for the Wikimedia Foundation (as you mentioned "no-wikimedia employees" before). And the latest revision of one of those other two changesets (#186762) is only three days old, so I kindly ask you for some more patience here.
In general, regarding the code review of patches, there is an ongoing debate how to prioritize code review of patches submitted by volunteers (and that also covers technical aspects that are related to the "Gerrit" tool that Wikimedia currently uses for code review, for example that Gerrit does not know the concept of one specific owner for a code area, so it could happen that several people are added as reviewers to a patch in Gerrit but every reviewer assumes that another reviewer will review the patch, which is not good). These are problems that we need to discuss and solve together. That debate also links to a graph that shows the age of open changesets by affilation (volunteers vs. involved companies]. While reviewing patches by volunteers indeed does take a bit longer currently, personally I would not say that Wikimedia does not accept patches from individuals at all. Contributions are very welcome in free and open source software projects, but some areas are "more" maintained than others. I'm not sure if this covers all of your questions and concerns but I encourage you to not hesitate and ping on your patches (or in addition ask reviewers on IRC) when a review has not happened within one or two weeks. Thanks! --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 14:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
@AKlapper (WMF): In T78776 you be like, meh! it was solved by it self we don't have to debug anything! cool! we pray it won't happened again! is that it? shouldn't just wait for people who are behind these servers what exactly happened and how they can resolve this? I had the same exact problem four years ago, but all I just hear is everything is getting better and better. "Missing message Qqq" is not my problem shouldn't that person wait till Siebrand respond? I said "Is it because they think no-wikimedia employees shouldn't commit to projects?" I've been talking about a type thoughts that might be avoiding this, not even mentioned they're wikimedia employees, in my opinion they're getting hired by wikimedia in the future because I talked to one of them recently. I'm already aware of wikimedia's blog about developing always says "we", I'm not sure what this "we" refers to, like when BBC interviewer asked Wales how do you verify the accuracy of news articles, he said we have those people, but I saw people were publishing non-NPOV articles when I was absent. things always just being said performing of them is not what always happens. Mjbmr (discussioncontribs) 14:48, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Mjbmr: "We" is everybody - you, me, everybody in the Wikimedia movement. It is a shared responsibility. Regarding T78776, if you are not sure whether the underlying problem has been identified and fixed, you could explicitly ask on the task. Sometimes time and priority constraints indeed do not allow deeper investigation, but I don't know if that was the case in that specific task. Regarding the Gerrit patch, "Missing message Qqq" is maybe not your problem, but anybody interested in getting the patch closer to getting it merged could and should fix the patch to include the missing Qqq message. I'm not sure why a response from Siebrand should be needed here? The general comment that such functionality might already exist still stands though (I cannot comment on that one as I don't know the codebase) and might be a reason to not accept that patch in the end if someone thinks that the patch does not offer the "right" solution to the problem. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 19:46, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
@AKlapper (WMF): Please see phab:T95009#1181035. Mjbmr (discussioncontribs) 22:30, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
@Mjbmr:: Hi, I have seen that (I am subscribed to that task). If something is unclear you could bring that up in that task where there's a bit more audience to help explain and improve than on Elitre's talk page I guess. :) --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 13:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor/Newsletter/2015/AprilEdit

I am translating this page, but links targets are often given as <tvar> variables without language support. For example, if I use the variables, the DOI explanation is the English Wikipedia article, the documentation for TemplateData is the English one (there are many translations here). How are you planning to integrate languages here? Should I ignore variables and adapt links (which seems preferable for English Wikipedia articles) or will you use something like Special:MyLanguage (which seems preferable for translated documentation)? — Ltrlg (talk) – 08:48, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Ltrlg, I'm not sure how to change those tvars to point to more useful pages. Usually, when I'm linking to encyclopedia articles, I specify en.wp because I know that the page exists under that name. For example, w:en:Arm and w:fr:Arm are not the same subjects, so linking to the second would not be helpful. But for mediawiki.org, I will always want them to go to the best language for the reader. If you know how to fix it, to do something more sensible for everyone, then please do (and please leave the diff on my talk page, so I can learn how to do it). Otherwise, please translate the links however you think is best. I trust your judgment. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:45, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi Elitre, I'm having a hard time translating "Q4 blocker" - what is that? Thanks, --Gnom (talk) 16:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I was wondering the same yesterday. Is there some meaning for Q4 or is it just a random name for the project (as said "Q4 blocker project")? Elitre seems to be out of office so let's try @Whatamidoing (WMF): any help? :) --Stryn (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Stryn and Gnom, thanks for pinging me. I apologize for the confusion (and it is my fault, because I wrote that). "Q4" is "fourth quarter in the fiscal year", or if you're speaking "human" rather than "bookkeeping", it means "April, May, and June". Please translate it rather freely, into whatever you think will make sense to editors. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:37, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, Whatamidoing (WMF)! You probably know that fiscal years vary greatly internationally, and fourth quarter of the official U.S. fiscal year consists of the months of July through September, if I understand the according Wikipedia article correctly... --Gnom (talk) 22:16, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Every business has its own fiscal year. It doesn't even need to align with a month. Most big retailers have a fiscal year that ends sometime in January, perhaps two weeks after Christmas or on the Saturday or Sunday closest to their chosen date, etc. You can choose anything you want, as long as you stick with it. Most American non-profits (including the WMF) have a fiscal year that ends on 30 June, ultimately because the (tax) accountants aren't as busy then (which means that they can get cheaper audits). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #2—2015Edit

19:45, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: my edit in ArwikiEdit

according to this message, I think there are a misunderstanding because your message was in wrong page, the Village pump discussions should be in the month page not in the main page, so I fix this mistake and transfer your message from:

https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية

to

https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية/04/2015

thank you :) --Ibrahim.ID »» 18:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I think this link is wrong :), could you send me the right link? thanks
  Done, thank you--Ibrahim.ID »» 12:04, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: MassMessage e interwikiEdit

phabricator:T59464. Il trucco è sempre il solito: [2]. --Nemo 14:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

in esWiki village pumpEdit

Hi. I have asnwered you in es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Técnica/Actual#Votaci.C3.B3n. I do not know if you have notifications, so I prefer to notify it to you here. Greetings. Albertojuanse (talk) 15:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #3—2015Edit

10:45, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Early invitation: join VisualEditor's 2015 TranslathonEdit

Hello!

You are invited to join the 2nd edition of the VisualEditor Translathon! It is a translation rally, focused on interface messages and help pages related to VisualEditor.

In order to participate, you need to sign up on the Translathon page. The top 3 contributors will each win a Wikipedia t-shirt of their choice from the Wikipedia store.[1] Translations made between July 15th and July 19th (CDT time zone) qualify.[2]

If you are attending Wikimania Mexico this year, you are also welcome to join a related sprint during the Hackathon in Workplace 1 - Don Américo, Thursday 16 July at 4:00 p.m (CDT) at the conference venue, so you can meet other fellow translators and get support if you need some.

Interface messages have the priority. You will need to create an account at translatewiki.net in order to work on them, if you don't have one. It is recommended to create the account ASAP, so that it can be manually confirmed in time.

You can also help translate documentation pages about VisualEditor on mediawiki.org. You can use your Wikipedia account there. You will find instructions, links and other details on the Translathon page.

Thanks for your attention, and happy translating! Elitre (WMF) 02:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

  1. You can choose between any short-sleeve shirt, or other items for the same value.
  2. This means both new translations, and updates for messages in the "Outdated" tab of the translation interface.

VisualEditor News #4—2015Edit

Elitre (WMF), 22:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Re: A proposal to centralize VisualEditor feedback on www.mediawiki.orgEdit

Hi! I don't know are you checking local Wikipedia user talk pages how frequently, so I report here that I gave you an answer on fiwiki. :) --Stryn (talk) 20:09, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

From slovenian wikipedians - I am the only one that deals with Visual editor in :sl wiki and I agree, for now this is a good idea. --Pinky sl (talk) 07:46, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

For Minangkabau Wikipedia, I do think this is a good idea as well. Thanks, XoXo (talk) 13:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia 15Edit

Ciao, troveresti 5 minuti per trasformare il mio inglese penoso in inglese normale qui Wikipedia_15/Events/Grenoble ? Grazie.--Patafisik (talk) 16:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Ok, scusa per l'invasione della mail sbagliata, non mi ero resa conto. L'ho vista nella pagina e ho preso la scorciatoia. Buon lavoro,--Patafisik (talk) 16:30, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

VE NewsletterEdit

Ti scrivo qui perché (per qualche strana ragione) non riesco a rispondere direttamente alla mail. La frase
"Now, all devices regardless of size can use it if they wish."
Dovrebbe essere modificata in qualcosa tipo
"Now, editors can use it on all devices regardless of size if they wish."
Dato che è chi modifica a decidere, non il dispositivo :D--Fringio – α†Ω 18:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #5—2015Edit

Elitre (WMF), 18:18, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor (partial) approval on es:wikiEdit

Informing you that polling on es:wiki is over, and VE has been approved por registered users. Check w:es:Wikipedia:Votaciones/2015/Sobre el Editor Visual--Ninovolador (talk) 12:39, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Content translationEdit

Ciao, per caso tu rispondi anche a richieste di informazioni su mw:Content translation e mw:Wikimedia Language engineering? Nemo 11:36, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Grazie per l'informazione. Nemo 11:43, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

User:Elitre (WMF)/Sandbox2 / User:Elitre (WMF)/Sandbox3Edit

Hi! This is still needed? --Kaganer (talk) 19:50, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

No problem, but these pages is generate some red links to unexists categories ;) Ok, i unmark this page from translation and mark to delete. User:Elitre (WMF)/Sandbox3 also unneeded?
NB: You may reply in this talkpage, by include link to my userpage in your text (Then I see a message in the notification bar). As example, "Kaganer, Thanks to ..."
--Kaganer (talk) 07:11, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Deletion request - diff --Kaganer (talk) 07:26, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Citoid e siti variEdit

Ho visto che ci sono vari compiti di Citoid in GCI.[3] Secondo me sono ottimi, se ne potrebbero fare facilmente anche a centinaia. Potresti proporre a suggerire a Marielle di aggiungerne altri per alcuni dei siti che pensi dovrebbero esserci. Se anche fosero solo pull request in GitHub che poi non possiamo approvare noi, sarebbero comunque utili. Nemo 17:42, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

About bnwp's VisualEditor feedback pageEdit

Hey Erica, You wanted to let you know that if someone commits to taking care of the local page of VisualEditor feedback. Well, I'd like to keep an eye on bnwp's feedback page and would like to opted out from centralization. Regards, ~ Nahid Talk 21:37, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Please followEdit

Hi. Please check here. Thanks.—Teles «Talk to me ˱C L @ S˲» 20:57, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor feedback page on huwikiEdit

Hi Elitre,

I've seen your message on huwiki about the VE feedback centralization. I presume that refers to Wikipédia:VisualEditor/Visszajelzés. I can handle feedback on that page and forward to Phabricator as needed. If you'd prefer to not have a local feedback page, that's fine with me either. (TBH the page is pretty useless; almost all the feedback is about article content.)

In unrelated news, I made a proposal to open red links in VisualEditor by default, which was accepted. This was shortly before the VE team announced the single-tab feature, so it was formulated slightly differently, but I think the consensus extends to that, in case that's something you intend to do on a per-wiki opt-in basis. --Tgr (talk) 05:23, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #6—2015Edit

Elitre (WMF), 00:03, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor huwiki reloadedEdit

Hi! I left a message for you here: [4]. And thank you for considering our problems. Best, --Burumbátor (talk) 18:35, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #1—2016Edit

Elitre (WMF), 19:22, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Quero falar com alguémEdit

Preciso que alguem me esplica como coversar em wiki ao vivo. E como ver se um usuario esta no chat.--105.172.65.194 16:51, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

See es:Wikipedia:Canal_de_IRC or related guides. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:01, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

RE:senza paroleEdit

Nessun problema, io mi diverto :D--Fringio – α†Ω 17:35, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Corsi di laurea in lingue e letterature straniere moderne :) Magari trovi qualche altro "particolare" :D--Fringio – α†Ω 09:06, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Allora se qualcuno ci ha già pensato, di sicuro è la soluzione più semplice :D--Fringio – α†Ω 09:10, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
😂😂😂😂😂😂--Fringio – α†Ω 09:12, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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