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outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org



Link: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/$1 prefix:dashboard:

  1. tool developped by WMF.
  2. stable link : https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/$1
  3. easy to use prefix : [[:dashboard:]] /or/ [[:wmfdashboard:]]
  4. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects.
  5. relevant for edit-a-thons, organizers, users, stats, etc.
  6. allow to create "Enroll" buttons using an non external link.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benoit Rochon (talk) 4 January 2018‎

  added as wmfdashboard  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

KmWiki

Wikispaces, which kmwiki was hosted on, has been shut down for quite a while. It also appears the site was dead for several years at this point and there is a fairly minimal amount of links to it. A bit of searching yielded no successor sites (it doesn't appear that this can be updated); on another hand, this could conflict with the Khmer Wikipedia link (km). Hiàn (talk) 23:19, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

None of the four supposed links are even useful. The Spanish pages and the Marc Kupper page on en.wikipedia are lists of interwikis. The Legoktm page is actually trying to link to km.wikipedia. So, I think it should be perfectly safe to remove. PiRSquared17 (talk) 23:47, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
  removed, though not phab'd  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

ISSN redirects to HTTPS

ISSN: https://www.worldcat.org/issn/$1 issn:0021-6925

Note: Some ISSN URLs, such as http://www.worldcat.org/issn/0021-6925, generate a 301 redirect to an HTTPS URL that generates a 303 redirect to another HTTPS URL. At the same time, there are other ISSN URLs, such as http://www.worldcat.org/issn/1810-9047, that only generate a 301 redirect to an HTTPS URL. The change specified above should cover both situations. --Elegie (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

  updated thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

HTTPS for freedomdefined

Please update freedomdefined: to https://freedomdefined.org/$1 to use encrypted connection. It has a three-month Let’s Encrypt certificate valid from last Sunday, so it’s a fast catch! :) Hopefully they configured the update script correctly and it will still work in May. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:54, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

  updated thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

New tool for finding potential interwiki conflicts

@Billinghurst: (because you seem to be the de facto interwiki map guy nowadays)

  Comment I would prefer not to be, and have tried to not be.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:53, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

I just created a new tool, toollabs:pirsquared/iwconflict.php, which can be used to determine whether a proposed interwiki link conflicts with any existing page titles and namespace names/aliases. (It has exactly as much charmful CSS as my previous tool.) It takes a long time but I think it works. It should handle edge cases but I don't want to go into details. For example, let's say someone proposed making a new interwiki called "R" and we only wanted to check itwiki and metawiki (because checking all wikis takes a few minutes). Then you can see the list of conflicts here. Another example: [1]. PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:13, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

It should be noted that a namespace conflict isn't necessarily a dealbreaker. For instance, the interwiki "Wikipedia" included in the map conflicts with the project namespace on enwiki (and a bunch of others). It just means you won't be able to access the interwiki on those projects. PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:25, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: I added a link to the tool in the admin instructions above. PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:59, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Miraheze

Status:    Not done


  1. Miraheze is a non-profit wiki farm that hosts a growing number of wikis, including educational wikis and those belonging to other non-profits. Many wikis from Wikia have either migrated or are in the process of migrating to Miraheze. Additionally, Miraheze develops its own extensions and lists them on MediaWiki.org.
  2. Miraheze has a team of Stewards and operates a Counter-Vandalism Team that police content. Spam and advertising are against their content policy.
  3. Wikis are licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0 by default.
  4. It's a wiki farm, so yes.
  5. The service contains over 3380 wikis as of 19:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC).
  6. No malware.

The way links to wikis would be written would be somewhat similar to the current interwiki for Wikia: [[miraheze:mh:foo:bar]] would create a link to meta.miraheze.org/wiki/mh:foo:bar, which would then redirect to foo.miraheze.org/wiki/bar. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 19:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

  •   Question: There has to be a point and value to providing the interwiki, though it has not been spoken about its use, so why would we link to meta.miraheze? Looking at the top40 WPs, and the links, they are from user pages to user pages, there is next to no content linking. The content wikis at miraheze all have their own subdomain names, so doesn't appear to be a particular useful interwiki preparation.   Comment I would not see that we would envisage a two letter shortcut.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
    • @Billinghurst: www.miraheze.org does not currently work for Miraheze interwiki links. Writing www.miraheze.org/wiki/mh:foo:bar does not redirect to its intended target (as of this writing it gives only a 404 page). Writing meta.miraheze.org/wiki/mh:foo:bar or any-other-wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/mh:foo:bar does, however, redirect to their intended targets. Meta was selected because it is the Meta Wiki of the wiki farm and thus the de facto home wiki. Of course, the main intention of this interwiki is to be able to redirect to any of the wikis on Miraheze, not just Meta. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 02:36, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
      I must not explained myself well enough. I believe that I suitably understand the technical aspect of interwikis. What I don't believe that has been explained is the social requirement for the interwiki links that you are proposing.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
(Full discloure I am a member of the Counter-Vandalism Team on Miraheze), I suggest dropping www. from the interwiki target, but besides that   Support Zppix (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • I would prefer that we didn't encourage linking to services run by WMF globally banned users. Legoktm (talk) 20:26, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Who runs it that is WMF banned? Vermont (talk) 20:35, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per Legoktm.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:12, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • (ec) -1 per Legoktm. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:13, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per Legoktm. Vermont (talk) 21:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per all of above. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:26, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Legoktm. Stryn (talk) 09:21, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support I honestly don't know who Lego is talking about, but I really don't think it's a good reason to oppose this request. wikia:Military:Main is run by Reguyla, and I know that it is a similar story for many Wikia wikis.
    To help satisfy billinghurst's point about the social need for this interwiki link, I know I set up for WikiLaw (3) a testing wiki. I also plan on using that wiki for testing mw:Extension:SoftRedirector after I get a repository set up. I tend to use, (and will likely continue using) that site a tool for a lot of my backend work.
    Honestly, Miraheze was like a dream a come true for me when I found it. I had always wanted my own mediawiki wiki, and now I do! The fact it is a nonprofit server farm is all the more reason we should establish an interwiki link to it.
    It almost doesn't even need to be said, but I think a two-letter shortcut is a bit much, though.
    Cheers! –MJLTalk 01:59, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
    There's a big difference between a WMF globally banned user who's an administrator on a wiki versus that banned user being a sysadmin who can see private info like IP addresses, etc. We shouldn't be implicitly endorsing the services of the latter; rather we should discourage links to there. Legoktm (talk) 04:26, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
    It's still not clear to me who we are talking about. –MJLTalk 21:59, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

  Not done no suitable consensus  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:25, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Incubator Plus 2.0 on Miraheze

Withdrawn.

I read the discussion above concerning a broad request for a link to Miraheze. Still, because of what has happened at Wikia/Fandom, we have moved Incubator Plus (the place where projects ineligible for Wikimedia Incubator go) to Miraheze. So we'd like to be able to have direct links there.

Now, I tested the link https://incubator.miraheze.org/wiki/m:User:StevenJ81, and that does give a backdoor to my user page on Miraheze Meta (and therefore to the whole Miraheze farm). So I propose having these links added to the Interwiki map only on Incubator, and not across the whole WMF world. (This functionality is available.) StevenJ81 (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Is available generally, or in the WMF setup? IIRC we use interwiki.php, which is autogenerated from Interwiki_map, which doesn't seem to have any row for "only on this project" type of link. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
It's available generally, since at the new Incubator Plus I have a link back to WM Incubator that only appears in my wiki. (See https://incubator.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki and scroll down the page.) Whether that functionality is blocked here, I don't know. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:55, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
IIRC interwiki map needs to be the same on all WMF wikis. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Never mind. Handled otherwise. Never thought this would actually turn into a complicated issue. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:47, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Phab request to update interwiki

I have lodged a request to update the interwiki map following the series of updates above.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:12, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:23, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 22 July 2019

Remove CellWiki. Looking at Wikia:Cell:Main_Page shows that the wiki hasn't been updated in 10 years. I checked for links on Meta and Enwiki, and it's never been used for either (except for tests). I'd rather have access to LPedia or niwanetwork (to avoid needing to link Bulba:nw:nookipedia:Game Boy Advance to get to Nookipedia). –MJLTalk 21:18, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

  Not done @MJL: please use the Talk:Interwiki_map#Proposed_removals section above to request a routine removal. — xaosflux Talk 00:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:27, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Interwiki link search tool

Hey, I just randomly decided to check this talk page and realized that the tool is down (and probably has been down for quite some time). I haven't logged into tool labs at all in several years so it's kind of a miracle that it was even up in 2018. Anyone know how I can get it back up? PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

  resolve by application owner.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:05, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:23, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
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