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Subdomain dx. has been dropped and should no longer be used in new links.

Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Reviewing, help supports this updated. — xaosflux Talk 16:36, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Special:PermaLink/17626158 tested new links OK. — xaosflux Talk 16:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
  Donexaosflux Talk 16:41, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: — xaosflux Talk 16:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Twenty-two prefixes with URLs that redirect HTTP->HTTPS

As of now, it appears that there are a number of interwiki link prefixes for which the target URL uses HTTP and for which accessing the HTTP URL generates an HTTP 301 redirect to an HTTPS URL. I have listed details below regarding twenty-two of these prefixes. It would seem useful, if possible, to have these prefixes use HTTPS target URLs in order to provide increased privacy and security for users, in addition to reducing the number of HTTP redirects. Your attention to this issue is appreciated. Thanks.

--Elegie (talk) 05:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

  Done though will not be operational until map updated within system  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:17, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
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Change to https:// —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:09, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

  Done Snowolf How can I help? 05:37, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:40, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


The current git interwiki points to$1;a=log;h=refs/heads/master, but that link has been dead for quite a while now. Instead I propose targeting it to:$1, as that is the new repository viewer we are using. This changes the destination and the format the links are supposed to be in (they need to include the mediawiki/ prefix), but any links were already broken to begin with. Legoktm (talk) 20:04, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

  Done per special:diff/17820391 @Legoktm: I am presuming your reference to mediawiki is managed by other means, not through the addition to the map. Not yet rolled to coders to integrate.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:04, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
requested update phab:T189444  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:38, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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TFWiki on https

TFWiki is now available as https. Can the interwiki here please be updated? --Alden Bates (talk) 21:11, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

  DoneMarcoAurelio (talk) 18:43, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:43, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikimedia Indonesia

Dear all,

Wikimedia Indonesia's MediaWiki website moved from to, this website serves as our financial and narrative report. We will use another platform for the previous domain ( @MarcoAurelio: @Billinghurst: could you help us to update the interwiki link? Thank you! Biyanto Rebin (WMID) (talk) 18:59, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

DoneMarcoAurelio (talk) 19:06, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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Six prefixes with HTTP URLs that generate redirects to HTTPS URLs

Six prefixes are listed below. These prefixes each have a target URL uses HTTP. At the same time, the target URL for each prefix generates one or more HTTP 301 redirects such that the user ends up at an HTTPS URL. (For example, it may happen where the HTTP URL generates a 301 redirect to an HTTPS URL which generates another 301 redirect to another HTTPS URL.) It would seem useful, if at all possible, to have these prefixes use HTTPS URLs instead of HTTP URLs, in order to provide increased privacy and security for users and to reduce the number of redirects. Thanks.

--Elegie (talk) 07:03, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Any thoughts on this? (It appears that the target URL for wmfr has since been changed to HTTPS.) --Elegie (talk) 07:24, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
@Elegie: To help make these easier to action can I suggest that keeping it simple works best. So the interwiki, the new url/parameter, an existing example so we can watch its new target
  updated  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:33, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
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Updating to https links

The following affiliate links are available on https now and I suggest their interwiki links are updated to use the more secure links.


TheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:27, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

  Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
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Please change scores to$1 --Boenki (talk) 08:48, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Squatted/missing domains

The following interwiki links go to a squatted domain or a no longer registered domain. I suggest updating them to redirect to a dedicated meta page.


TheDJ (talkcontribs) 13:27, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

  updated converted these to link to static pages Wikimedia Hong Kong, Wikimedia Kenya, and Wikimedia Philippines respectively. @TheDJ: I am interpreting that as your suggestion.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:52, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
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Due to upstream updates, please update that url to$1. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:46, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

  updated, will roll out whenever map next refreshed  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:16, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
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Updating to https links

Please change scores to$1 --Boenki (talk) 08:48, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

  Done: diff; thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

AquariumWiki supports HTTPS

The interwiki link AquariumWiki supports HTTPS linking (althout insecure HTTP protocol works and does not redirect to HTTPS). I think we should update nonetheless to use HTTPS. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:43, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

  Done (Special:Diff/18337042). —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:24, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

IMDbName target URL redirects to HTTPS

IMDbName:$1/ Michael Arlen

--Elegie (talk) 08:12, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@Elegie:   Done (Special:Diff/18337050) and several other IMDB.* prefixes as well so they all use HTTPS. Will be live in the next update of the interwiki map (no aproximate date for that). —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Update Karlsruhe to https

Please change$1 to$1 for Karlsruhe. Thank you. --Boenki (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

@Boenki:   Done. Special:Diff/18337040; best regards. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:22, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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Please remove koslarwiki from the Interwiki map. It's an inimportant wiki of the small village de:Koslar in Germany with less than 3000 inhabitants. The interwiki-link is neither used in DE-wiki, nor in EN-wiki. (A search for insource:/\[koslarwiki\:/ reveals no results) Moreover the last edit is from 2016 by the sysop (recent changes) and the outdated MediaWiki 1.19.15 from 2013 is used (Version). To sum it up: It's dead and irrelevant with no interwikilinks used. --Boenki (talk) 08:52, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Just found this page to search for usage of interwiki-links. OK, there are exactly four links. Nothing to worry about. --Boenki (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Database query:
Database name Page ID Page name Interwiki title
enwiki 11088714 User:Marc_Kupper/sandbox koslarwiki:Main_page
dawiki 730078 Project:Landsbybrønden/Kulturgeografi_og_wiki-links koslarwiki:
dawiki 736893 Project:Landsbybrønden/arkiv48 koslarwiki:
dewiki 320000 Diskussion:Jülich koslarwiki:Hauptseite
I agree we do not need an interwiki link for this usage.   RemoveMarcoAurelio (talk) 16:38, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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GlobalVoices interwiki which points to$1 is down with Error 404. If we cannot find the new location (if any), we should remove the link. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:37, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

According to the new site is located at I am not sure if we should switch to that site. It is no longer a wiki AFAIK, and I'm not sure either it'd meet at this moment the inclusion criteria? (I admit I have only had a very quick look). —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:39, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Current usage as per
Database name Page ID Page name Interwiki title
enwiki 11088714 User:Marc_Kupper/sandbox globalvoices:Main_page
Do we need an IW link for just one use? If that count is correct I'd say to remove the link as it is clearly not used.
MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:16, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
I am proposing that this interwiki be removed in a section above. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Remove GlobalVoices

As stated at Talk:Interwiki_map#GlobalVoices; the interwiki does have just one usage so far. It does not justify the existance of an interwiki link. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:27, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Database name Page ID Page name Interwiki title
enwiki 11088714 User:Marc_Kupper/sandbox globalvoices:Main_page

MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

  Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 19:22, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Steinsplitter (talk) 19:22, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Last-updated date up for updating

Can Steinsplitter or another admin please change the last-updated date to 7 November 2018 (i.e., replace "1=31 October 2018" with "1=7 November 2018" in first line of wikitext)? This was requested at phab:T208344#4726967, and can be "verified" at SAL. Alternatively, to prevent such changes from being necessary in the future, {{Interwiki map intro}} could be modified to abandon "manual" setting of the date, and just direct readers to the SAL link target to check when the last update was performed. (Note that the template already links to both that target and the interwiki.php history in Diffusion, both of which show when the last several updates occurred.) - dcljr (talk) 02:37, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

@Dcljr: done. I have also moved the cache date to a separate subpage Interwiki map/updated. It adds a small element of risk, though only to the display. Hopefully that is suitable to the community.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:00, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Debian Wiki


Prefix: debian: or debianwiki:.

Frequently linked to on more technical wikis like and wikitech, and quite a few on English Wikipedia, which surprised me.

Full disclosure: I'm a Debian developer. Legoktm (talk) 07:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

  • If it were to be added, I'd force the https linking in the interwiki as proposed, despite having links in http. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 00:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support Seems like an obvious addition. The only question is whether to use "debian:" or "debianwiki:". PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:04, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

  added as debian:  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

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Discontinue Wikinvest

All external links via this interwiki are useless now.

  • The path is ignored, they all are directed to:
  • There is no free information available any longer, at least not without registration.
  • See as brief example e.g. w:en:Price-weighted index both reference and external link.
  • The platform is highly commercial and trying to persuade visitors to invest their money via this company. This is not what we request a platform to provide helpful information to our readers. We should not direct readers to a particular finance management company. The easiest way to manage & improve your investments ÷ Free online personal finance investment software.
  • It is not clear why they ever got an interwiki shortcut; the motivation for running Wikinvest has always been to catch people and make them invest money. See w:en:Wikinvest.

Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 19:00, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

There are a lot of links to remove Would you suggest that there is a link expansion, and then mark as deadlinks, and leave the wikis to manage? Just removing the links is the other option.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Apparently there is no content available, at least not for free, or put some hundred thousand bucks in as investment to become a silver card member.
Perhaps something is archived via the original expanded URL. No idea.
But yes, projects should get a notice and the old path as starting point for investigations, and they may proceed on their own decisions. Other sites or even wiki pages might be a replacement in some cases.
Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 21:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
@PerfektesChaos: What may be worthwhile is having a target page here at metawiki for all discontinued interwikis where the links have not been removed, and we are concerned about retaining the dead links. Suggest one page, with an anchor per site, and we change the interwiki to point to that static interwiki#anchor. Of course, if someone wishes to build a bot, or manually remove them, then fantastic. We can add some bot requests to wikis if we find value in that.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:25, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea.

  • I suggest a subpage: Interwiki map/Discontinued
    • Brief introduction in English, then sections per keyword.
    • Each section would contain three items:
      1. Recent URL pattern
        • By $1 the former URL can be reconstructed.
      2. Date of discarding (fall 2018, here)
      3. Link to the archived proposal debate (this section here, but in archive; first archive, then change config)
  • URL change would mean:
    • No $1 any longer.
    • Append #wikinvest
    • Subpage URL.
  • It is up to authors and communities how to deal with individual cases: Remove entirely, replace by other source, search web archives, mark as dead.
  • One problem left open: They still appear on Special:Interwiki and might mislead some people. An additional database field hide would be nice; use by parser for link production, but treat as non-existent in all other cases. Flag might even generate the fallback URL directly

Best, --PerfektesChaos (talk) 13:24, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

(+) If a discontinued flag is officially introduced, flagged keywords may be listed on Special:Interwiki with their last known URL pattern in a particular section, but usage will link to $wgInterwikiDiscontinuedURL pattern, if defined.
wgInterwikiDiscontinuedURL :=$0
The extension of interwiki extension started less than ten years ago, now by regular link rot more and more keywords will pass away in near future.
Yours, --PerfektesChaos (talk) 13:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I like this idea. But I'd prefer if the "discontinued interwiki" page also had some way of linking to the Wayback Machine (and maybe as well). For instance, one of the links on enwiki is wikinvest:Cincinnati_Financial_(CINF), and the page could link to the archived version here. This couldn't be accomplished using a page on Meta-Wiki. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:52, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: that is a task for the wiki hosting the url/link, not us. I would suggest that for theWP that you get them to run a bot job.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:28, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

  created local link to Interwiki map/discontinued#Wikinvest. Anyone feel free to update this page to a better standard, and to consider the potential for a standardising on a template.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

ForthFreak target URLs redirect to GitHub wiki

As of this writing, the ForthFreak prefix has the target URL$1. From what it appears, URLs that start with generate a 301 Moved Permanently redirect to For example, there are the URLs and It might be useful to use the GitHub page as the target URL for the ForthFreak prefix, in order to provide increased privacy and security for users by using an HTTPS URL, and for eliminating the redirect. Another possibility might be to use a target URL such as$1, to increase the chance that the URL for an existing wiki entry will be redirected to the corresponding wiki entry (assuming one exists) at the GitHub wiki. For example, there is a wiki entry on the GitHub page at --Elegie (talk) 05:57, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Elegie:Looking at has me thinking that we would be better to just remove the interwiki link, it isn't being used.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:50, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
  removed as unused.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:42, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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Can we please update infosphere to use https: instead of http:?

Thank you, —LLarson (said & done) 12:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

When I follow an existing http: link to the site it does not redirect me to an https: link. When I morph the http to https I get a browser warning that it is an insecure link. I would suggest that it is not fully compliant.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:57, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: I tried multiple browsers on macOS, Windows, and iOS but wasn’t able to recreate your browser’s warning. My web console did list the website’s Creative Commons badge as being requested over HTTP,1 but if it is called, it is served over HTTPS.2 If that is what is causing your warning, I see user risk outweighed by benefits here. —LLarson (said & done) 15:59, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

  updated to be https  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:29, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

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Why is there no ircs in Special:Interwiki? Shouldn't ircs be preferred over irc, 'cause its secure? All Template:Channel transclusions are linking to insecure connections. Two alternative proposals:

  • Could the ircs protocol be added to the map creating 4 new prefixes based on the exiting prefixes irc, freenode, ircrc, rcirc?
  • Alternatively, could the URLs of these prefixes just be changed to the ircs protocol (all listed servers do support IRCS, also all up-to date irc clients). This would eliminate all insecure irc links using interwiki, including thousands of Template:Channel transclusions.

Thanks! --Ptolusque (talk) 09:44, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

@Ptolusque: there is IRC, have you misspoken, and need to amend? If you are asking why freenode is not available in secure IRC, probably because no one has requested it. Most direct requests that I have seen have been through their https interface.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, misspelled. Corrected above. I'm asking why all irc servers provided in Special:Interwiki are not available in secure IRCS. Herby I request IRCS to be added or as replacement for irc. --Ptolusque (talk) 21:54, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
  •   Comment I asked Ptolusque to come here and raise this issue from Phabricator as I am unsure whether we should amend the existing links or add new ones. I do support using HTTPS of course. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:33, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
      added ircs to be ircs:// at freenode, and I am hoping that freenode's ports are a standard alignment to ircs. Once this is uploaded to the master, this will need to be checked by someone who utilises such links.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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Maybe Wikia should change from$1 to$1 but more testing is strongly recommended. I have only tested one page at two Wikia wikis. Both are broken for me now and the change would fix one but not the other. It came up at w:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Template:TardisIndexFile where my tests are shown. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: thanks for the note, can you provide any documentation from wikia about what changes they are making to their naming convention? — xaosflux Talk 23:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
I don't edit at Wikia and haven't seen any documentation. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:07, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
I found which says: To link to a page on a different community, enter "w:c:" followed by the domain of that wiki, followed by the page's name. This indicates$1. Trying this, both and work for me via redirects. Trying$1 without w:c:, works for me while fails. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: thanks for the note, to be clear this will be a change of:
  • FROM:$1
  • TO:$1
xaosflux Talk 00:55, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that is currently my best guess. I haven't tried other Wikia links or different devices. At w:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169#Links to Harry Potter wiki, Wikia behaved differently with different user agents. There may be four affected interwiki map entries. They currently say:
I haven't examined how WikiaSite:, Wikicities: and Wikicity: are used and whether they would all be better as$1. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:23, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
  •   Done Wikia above is done, someone will need to test the others and let us know. — xaosflux Talk 14:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
I have now tested the use of many Wikia wikis in the English Wikipedia. The already made Wikia change to$1 will fix all tested links made with Wikia:. They are all broken with the old$1. WikiaSite and Wikicity need the same change to$1. All tested links are broken and will be fixed by this change. Wikicities needs a change from$1 to$1. All tested links are broken and will be fixed by this. Note that Wikicities does not currently include c: and should not start doing it. It should only add w:. This is because all tested existing uses are adapted to the current value without c: so they add c: in the wikilink like wikicities:c:Smallville:Spirit. The suggested change will produce the working instead of the broken In summary, these should be the new values:
  •   Done Wikia$1 (already done)
  •   Done WikiaSite$1
  •   Done Wikicities$1
  • Wikicity$1
All tests were with Firefox on Windows 10. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:18, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
  Done all updates made. — xaosflux Talk 14:38, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
phab:T207596 opened to sync. — xaosflux Talk 14:41, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
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This site moved to in last month. The site has not maintained complete link functionality from the previous address. The root url will redirect, and occasionally other links will as well but it mostly just timeouts. This is breaking several external link templates that use this interwiki link. I don't see any change to the site content, the name the only change. Frayae (talk) 19:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: The site has quite clearly become wikilivres again as was its name from 2006-2017. Could you update this? Frayae (talk) 20:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Note, this is both the wikilivres and the bibliowiki prefixes. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
  Done; Special:Diff/18733804MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:26, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Doom Wiki

The original Doom Wiki is now at$1. Please replace the Wikia wiki interlink with the new url. Arianator with love (talk) 03:05, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

  Not done The wikia site redirects to This needs a proper discussion and resolution in preference to a one person nominating.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:24, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

When to accept or reject a request

I would like to suggest to better explain to the users how the accept or reject decisions are made and in what time frame. As you can see from the list above, there are several requests lying here since months (in some cases for more than an year) and it is not clear (at least to me) if and when a request will be accepted or rejected.
At the top of the page it is written Admins, please allow consensus to form (or at least no objections to be raised over a period of a few days), but this is clearly not the case as months are passing, not days.
So I would say that either the approval process is not working as expected, or it is not explained in a clear way to the reader. LucaMauri (talk) 14:47, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

I would say that the text reflected the early days, not the current days where the requirements of the wikis are more specific, and where we have less requirement for change. I don't think that the process is wrong, it is simply that those cases you highlight don't demonstrate a consensus to add, and it is be better instruction to proponents that needs revision. Requests here need the input of the wikis where the links will be used. I would suggest that these proponents need to place their request here, then announce their requests at those wikis where they expect the uses to occur, so that the broader community can reach that consensus here.

Clear cases of demonstrated use, especially internal use, have been approved. Low use, uncertain requests have sat here awaiting a consensus that the value for addition exists.

In my opinion, administrators are here to undertake the addition/change/removal after a consensus has been reached, not to generate the discussion to form a consensus. We could close requests as not done, if they haven't got that clear consensus, or we can leave them open, as has been the practice. [The community decides where we are going, administrators are the conduit to implementation.]  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I see your point and understand your reasons. But then again, information to the users needs to be updated.
First of all: who is in charge of reviewing documentation? Is this something we users should take care of, or an Administrator is better suited for?
Secondly, how we define consensus? Do we need 10 {{support}}? Or 20? Or 1.000? And how to weight them against any number of {{oppose}}?
I think we need at least a general guideline to know how to approach a proposal and gather supporters.--LucaMauri (talk) 11:07, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:23, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

rendering/distinction between internal and external links

Is there a way to introduce distinct rendering for the entries here? Before the interwiki map was opened to allow prefixes for external sites, readers could visually clearly distinguish between an internal links (WMF projects) and external links, but now that is not possible anymore. This imho rather confusing and also counterintuitive to the rules in some/many wikipedias, which allow external links only in certain section and not the article's main text. Not to mention that some if the entries here somewhat violate the usual criteria for external links of some wikipedias as well.--Kmhkmh (talk) 13:33, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

The rendering of interwiki links is controlled by the CSS class .extiw: in our MediaWiki installation we decided to show a small sunflower icon (WikiMedia logo) next to any interwiki link and we managed to do this simply adding a background-image property to the class in the CSS. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, there is not an easy way to differentiate between different sites. The general idea would be to add a second class – beside .extiw – to the links identifying the prefix of the website where the link points to: then it could be possible to customize every links in a similar way as the <li> elements in the sidebar. This should be suggested as a change to MediWiki codebase, but I haven't found the time to do so, yet. --LucaMauri (talk) 12:24, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
@Kmhkmh: please note this feature is currently being worked on. See T224064 for further details and for an alternative approach to the problem. --LucaMauri (talk) 08:15, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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