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Hello, MJL. Welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing!

Better late than never! Nihlus 21:05, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Nihlus, lmao thank you! ;D ―MJL -Talk- 21:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Your signature


Just an FYI but you may want to change your signature to –<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[w:User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]] [[w:User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[w:WP:CONN|☖]]</sup></span> if you want to point the links to enwiki. Take out the w: if you want them to point to Meta pages. Nihlus 22:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Nihlus, ah. Thank you. It's all fixed now. Now, all that is left to do is apply it to all the different Wiki's~! Many thanks, –MJLTalk 22:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Interwiki redirect


You can use this code to make a soft interwiki redirect to your enwiki user page: {{Interwiki redirect|en:User:MJL}}. -★- PlyrStar93 Message me. 16:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

PlyrStar93, ah; Thank you! That is precisely what I was looking for!! –MJLTalk 16:35, 13 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Wikisource:News: April 2019 Edition

The monthly newsletter from English Wikisource monthly newsletter; Wikisource:News, which seeks to be informative of Wikimedia's entire multilingual Wikisource community.

Note to self


thisMJLTalk 15:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)Reply



Hey! Can you check out my latest project proposal?---> Wikihistoric Arep Ticous 17:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Arepticous: Wow that is so funny you caught me at the exact moment I was finishing up the fifth version of my userpage. Could you explain for me the differences between this proposal and Wikisource, though? I'm a bit confused on that front. –MJLTalk 17:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
Wikihistoric is a free historical handbook made for distribution archaeological knowledge. It contains historical facts, articles, and all the other things. Arep Ticous 17:58, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Arepticous: So like an w:almanac? Where would the facts be sourced to? –MJLTalk 18:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Yes... like the almanac... What do you mean by where the facts would be sourced to? Arep Ticous 09:50, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Arepticous: Where would contributors get the historical facts for the project? –MJLTalk 15:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
Books, wikipedia... Arep Ticous 17:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Arepticous: I'm sorry if my questions make you feel discouraged... I don't intend for that to be the case. –MJLTalk 18:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply



Hello again MJL! can you check out this new proposal? its called WikiDirect. I got this idea right after Wikihistoric, can you maybe take a look and give me your opinion? Arep Ticous 05:46, 17 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Belated holiday greetings


Wikisource Pagelist Widget - First Iteration Feedback


Hello everyone,

I am pleased to announce that Wikisource Pagelist Widget is now available on Beta Wikisource. We need your help in testing the widget and providing feedback.

You can test the widget by editing the following Index page on Beta Wikisource:


There is a new ‘Preview pagelist’ button under the pagelist field. Click it to get a preview, and then click on any page number in the preview to open the widget.

You can also create a fresh Index Page for any other PDF or DjVu from Wikimedia Commons and test it.

We need your feedback on the following questions:

  • What is your general opinion about the Pagelist Widget?
  • Is it obvious how to use the widget? If not, what is difficult to understand?
  • What other changes would you like to suggest in order to improve the widget further?

Please provide your feedback on the Project Talk Page on Meta-Wiki.

P.S. - The widget doesn’t work on Local Uploads in Beta Wikisource as of now (due to phab:T257807).


SGill (WMF) (talk)

Sent using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Scots mainpage


Hi MJL, I think there's some rather egregious vandalism on the Scots Wikipedia main page. I'm on mobile at the moment so can't fix it myself even if I tried. Could you take a look? Wugapodes (talk) 02:27, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wugapodes yeah, I will protect the main page now. –MJLTalk 02:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Scots main page banner & idea


Hello, Wasn't sure where to put this, because I can't speak Scots, but if you were going to add a banner to the main page about the recent fiasco, it might be worth having a link to a separate page with a couple FAQs (linking to the RfC, explaining how we are trying to resolve the issue) as well as to the RfC directly. (I mentioned this on Discord but wasn't sure if you saw so figured I'd put it on Meta for the record.) I can draft an FAQ page here on Meta in my userspace if you think it would be helpful. Regards, Giraffer (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Giraffer: Please do! –MJLTalk 17:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
On it now! Giraffer (talk) 17:41, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply



Hi MJL. First, I would like to apologise for referring to you as she instead of they. You gendered yourself on Reddit, and I only learned today that you have more specific preferences.

In any case, would you please try to obtain community consensus before collapsing/archiving conversations to which I have contributed? You've done this almost ten times now. How would you feel if I had done the same to you? James Salsman (talk) 04:09, 31 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

@James Salsman: You are mistaken if you believe I had a hand in collapsing/archiving your comments. That was SnowFire, then it was Zoozaz1. However, I do fully agree with their decision to hide them as they were clearly off-topic non-sequiturs on American politics. People are trying to discuss specific matters, and you are sort of trying to set a different agenda here.
Either way, I had not noticed you had misgendered me. If that was the case, I guess I am a little surprised considering my preferred pronouns are on my global user page. Still, I won't hold it against you and thank you for being kind enough to apologize for it. That seriously means a lot. :) –MJLTalk 07:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Do you ever suppose I may be trying to help you out of this mess? [1]? James Salsman (talk) 05:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@James Salsman: Nope, and you aren't qualified to help. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯MJLTalk 06:19, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

The omwt barnstar

  The Original Barnstar
For doing as well as anyone would be expected to do under the conditions you found yourself in, even if the less patient among us found it slightly lacking in a few respects. James Salsman (talk) 04:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Requests for comment/Global ban of James Salsman


Hi MJL, I just wanted to let you know that en:WP:OUT redirects to en:Wikipedia:Alternative outlets. It appears that you were looking for en:WP:OUTING (which could be piped to still be the same text). I was going to fix it for you, but thought that I best just leave you a note about it. Best, TheSandDoctor Talk 17:51, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

en:WP:DOX is also an alternative redirect to WP:OUTING if you preferred for flow. --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:52, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@TheSandDoctor: Oof, rookie mistake. I'll fix it; thank you! –MJLTalk 19:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome! I'm happy to help   --TheSandDoctor Talk 19:27, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply



Can you join again? Need some clarification --DannyS712 (talk) 03:50, 27 September 2020 (UTC)Reply



I saw, that you're operating a bot on wikidata, that has not been approved and that does not provide any information about its task. This appears to be in violation of wikidata:WD:Bots policy. It looks like your bot is somehow related to Requests for comment/Large scale language inaccuracies on the Scots Wikipedia. I didn't request it to be blocked, but please request the Botflag over here as soon as possible. Thank you very much -- Dr.üsenfieber (talk) 23:37, 1 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

You've got mail


--DannyS712 (talk) 18:48, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

@DannyS712: responded. –MJLTalk 20:21, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, already read it DannyS712 (talk) 20:22, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply


Naleksuh (talk) 20:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Naleksuh: responded. –MJLTalk 20:21, 22 October 2020 (UTC)Reply



MJL, honestly, as an uninvolved editor in this matter, I'm concerned as to why you need to "chase" Nomad from there to there and to here. You don't need to chase someone who opposed your proposal with a fairly reasonable rationale to their talk page... --Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 13:24, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Jeromi Mikhael: There is no chasing anyone. I was trying to explain, in a more private setting, that Nomad should seek to ban the sock puppet sleeper accounts. –MJLTalk 16:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Understood, thanks.  --Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 22:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wikisource OCR


Hello, I have an account at the german Wikisource and would like to publish books in the font Fraktur, which have lost their copyright due to age. Most of the old german books were set in this font. I have already scanned the books as *.pdf and would need OCR now. Now I have read about your proposal. Since I am not a developer, I hardly understand anything of the text and also not the linked pages like Phabricator. Therefore I would like to ask:

  1. Does your request only refer to the english Wikisource, but also to the german one?
  2. Are you asking for software that provides OCR for Wikisource users who have already scanned the book? If so, that is what I am looking for and I would like to say thank you for the proposal.
  3. In your proposal you write: "Who would benefit: Any Wikisource contributor working from a scanned text without a pre-existing OCR layer." I do not understand "OCR layer". Does that mean that the user has already scanned the book but has not yet done OCR?
  4. Would the software support the Font Fraktur?
  5. Is this software used online or installed locally on the computer of the Wikisource users?
  6. Would the use of the software require an account at a third party such as Google, Apple or Facebook?
  7. If the software is used online, how would this work? Could I simply upload a *.pdf and then download the result of the OCR? Or is this more complex and do I need special or even developer knowledge to operate it? Would the software run on Wikimedia server?
  8. Maybe more people would sign your proposal if it was not only understandable for developers.

I would be happy about an answer.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

I am looking for any new OCR tool which works across languages. Something that would help a user read a pdf (or similar) and automatically have the text extracted from it. Does that make more sense? –MJLTalk 15:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Global templates



I'm writing this because some time ago you supported the Wikitemplates proposal.

That proposal appears to be inactive, but I wrote a very similar and more detailed proposal called Global templates.

Can you please read the proposal (it's translated to several langauges!), and if it sounds good, to support it by adding your signature at the page mw:Global templates/Discuss?

Thank you! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Ad:Requests for comment/Global ban for Kubura/wikis

Ad:Requests for comment/Global ban for Kubura/wikis

Hi. If you don't mind me asking, did you fetch that list from anywhere in this site? From time to time, Meta users pick the wrong Village Pump address on plwiktionary as in this case: wikt:pl:Special:Diff/7471765. Wikisłownik:Bar became a disambig page a few years ago, the notice for this particular matter should have landed here. I wonder if there is another "master" list that we need to update. By the way, there has never been a Kubura user active on plwikt, the notice should have targeted Kubura2 instead (the same applies at least to eswikt, too). Kind regards, Peter Bowman (talk) 10:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Peter Bowman: I got it from Wikidata. Also, I forgot about the second account when we were drafting the message. –MJLTalk 16:42, 18 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Hi, I think you need to see this Kubura response from here [2]? People should see this, as that is his defence. Kanikosen (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Kanikosen: Yeah, it's pretty bigoted to say that Sakretsu can't act impartially because they're Italian. –MJLTalk 21:48, 19 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

18:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

16:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of Functions followup


Hi there, I'm a researcher for the Wikilambda project. Last month we held a naming contest and I'm following up with those who voted to see if you might be willing to provide some feedback to help guide the project.

This would be a 45 minute conversation about your past experience with other Wikimedia projects and thoughts about the future of this new initiative. I'm hoping to gather a wide range of perspectives so I'd be interested in your opinion regardless of whether you plan to have further involvement.

As a way of saying thanks, the research team is offering a $35 gift card (in your local currency) for participation. We could chat by phone or through a website for audio conferencing.

If you're interested just pick a time slot from this calendar link:

Hope to hear from you soon!

// jeff (design researcher) (talk) 17:40, 7 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Share your feedback on the OCR improvements!

SGrabarczuk (WMF) 17:48, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wednesday July 28: Wikispore Day Unconference

Wikispore Day 0, the picnic that partially inspired Wikispore.
Wikispore Day 1, last year

The second anniversary of Wikispore Day, observed on July 28, 2020, marks twenty-four months from the conceptual sprouting of the Wikispore idea from the Strategy Wiknic in NYC, which was held on July 14, 2019.

You are invited to participate in a virtual unconference for this year!

Wednesday July 28:

  • 12:002:00 pm (New York City time)
  • (16:00–18:00 UTC/GMT, 18:00–20:00 Berlin)
  • Social Hour

Since Wikispore is probably the only Wikimedia project to be born at a picnic, you are encouraged to participate from a socially-distanced green space outdooors if possible.

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Feedback on any of these items is welcomed at your friendly Wikispore Greenhouse!

--Pharos 19:48, 11 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Pharos: Feedback given. :) –MJLTalk 01:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you


I wanted to take a moment and thank you for your support and very kind words. Operator873 connect 21:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

UCoC enforcement


I just wanted to say I hope you aren't taking any of this personally. I am fairly outraged by some provisions of the enforcement guidelines, but I do appreciate that you have been pretty much the only person to respond to these concerns. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:34, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Beeblebrox: Don't worry, I'm not taking any of it personally! I'm looking to get more info about the training, so I had to stop responding for a bit. –MJLTalk 04:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Cool. That is certainly a big part of the issue some people have here, there's substantial grey areas. I am struggling to think of who would even be qualified to give training on how to enforce a brand-new global policy. "Block people who are being jerks" is already standard procedure on most projects anyway. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

UCOC enforcement after April 2022?


Hi, and thanks for volunteering to draft the UCOC enforcement guidelines. On 20 April 2022, the Board of Trustees announced that they would refine the UCOC enforcement guidelines. If you don't mind me asking, what's the progress on that so far? Has the Drafting Committee been reconvened? Have they began new discussions? Adrianmn1110 (talk) 19:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Adrianmn1110: Per this prior announcement a Revisions Committee composed of members of both drafting committee has been formed. I can't really reveal more than that at the moment (partially because I missed the last meeting sadly). –MJLTalk 16:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for revealing as much as you reasonably can. Good day. Adrianmn1110 (talk) 08:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

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