User talk:Camouflaged Mirage/Archive 2

Hi

Took me a while to figure out who you were, but it’s good to see you again :) TonyBallioni (talk) 06:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Hope you are well, have a happy new year ahead. :) --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:33, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Reply to Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat/Archives/2020-01#Removal of +Autopatrol from User:MCC214

Sorry,I don't participate this discussion,

I respond in this discussion,I tag {{Locked global account}} in LTA pages because I don't need this LTA pages blanked,keep blanked page[1] is pointless,I feel anyone LTA pages only tag {{Locked global account}}(If LTA pages is not deleted),such as [2].

I only tag {{Locked global account}} in LTA pages when this page is create by LTA and don't create in LTA pages,this edit is only replace content in LTA pages when it is create to LTA.

But if you don't like I do this,I can stop it.

--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 11:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@MCC214: Glad to see you willing to engage. To be clear, just blanking is better than tagging with the template. For this page, Praxidicae blanked the page, and there is no need to tag to leave a shrine for crosswiki abusers. Please refer to en:WP:DENY for more details. Given they are LTAs, we should even take more attention not to leave such shrines as they are just happy for these "status" which we must deny them. I didn't know you will go and dig my edit history, but as all my edits, I am happy to discuss them. For this it occurs in 2018 which I am relatively new in editing and did not know so much regarding what to do or what not to do. In retrospect, I should had blanked it and not replaced with the tag. I slowly learned the art of DENYing LTA attention. I admit I am incorrect in this particular edit.

I will like to add that it is not that I don't like you doing this for starting the RFH request, I am seeing these taggings after repeated people telling you not to and you persist. If you can address all the problems regarding your meta editing, I will be all for ~riley or any sysops to add back the autopatrol flag.

As a wiki, this is a collaborative space, and while everyone can edit, we must communicate with each other and especially when your edits are being questioned by other editors. We must and will always assume good faith, but there are times where things done in good faith may be disruptive, this is when action will be taken. I hope you understand it. All the best, --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:08, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy Spring Festival

Glad to see you back at zhwiki. Whether you continue to contribute or not, thank you for your contributions, and happy Spring Festival! --Rowingbohe♬(Talk/My work) 13:07, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

@Rowingbohe:Thanks. 新年快乐！Have a nice year ahead and stay happy and healthy. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:10, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:Mega-super-support nominated for deletion

Hello. An item which you created or you have editted substantially (Template:Mega-super-support) has been nominated for deletion. Please see the ongoing discussion at Meta:Requests for deletion. Thank you. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 23:59, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Responded. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 07:39, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

new email

Hello! Pls check your email infox when free. Regards, Hamish 15:23, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

@Hamish: Replied. Note I am using a new email account as the previous one will be expiring soon.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Administrator!

Deutsch | English | español | français | italiano | 한국어 | Nederlands | português | Türkçe | русский | العربية | Tiếng Việt | edit

Congratulations, Camouflaged Mirage! You now have the rights of an administrator on Meta-Wiki. Please take a moment to read the Meta:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat, and Meta:Requests for deletion, but also Talk:Spam blacklist and Talk:Interwiki map), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings, or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care. Please feel free to join us on IRC: #wikimedia-admin^connect. You may find Commons:Guide to adminship to be useful reading although it doesn't always completely apply here at Meta. Please also check or add your entry to Meta:Administrators#List of administrators and the Template:List of administrators. You're also allowed to subscribe the metawiki admins private mailing list. Again, congratulations and welcome to the team. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:49, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Will use the tools judiciously.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Congratulation, now you are also a janitor, do your job now!--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 14:56, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@Aldnonymous: Thanks, will do. :)--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

实至名归！Congratulations!! As expected of you hehe. Jianhui67 ^{talk★contribs} 15:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@Jianhui67:谢谢！--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations!--蟲蟲飛♡♡→♡℃※Talk 15:39, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@蟲蟲飛: Thanks.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Macte hac gloria! —Sgd. Hasley 19:34, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@Hasley: Thanks for your kinds words, hope to work with you well too. :) --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 06:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations!!--Turkmen ^talk 11:53, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Turkmen: Thanks :) --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:54, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

IRC

Sorry, I got busy with a problem and when I wanted to reply back you were already gone. I'll follow-up on Babel/RfC. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:55, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

about the revisions of "Press release logbook/PR-1M-EN"

你看一下里面的链接 http://journowiki.org/wiki/User:Amgine 根本不是 wiki的啊，全部的email都被这个网址占据了。 这个根本不是 wiki的网站，只是最后后缀看起来很像！— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yael80 (talk)

• @Yael80:但是也不能改到仅仅中国网页吧？这里是世界全部国家的公民交流维基项目管理的地方。且旧页面我们通常不更改。--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 06:47, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

YGM

--Minorax (talk) 15:06, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

@Minorax: Typically I go by if it's acceptable in SRG I will let it remain there, with hidename parameter should be enough, but I think I should had remove the entire report. Let me do it then. Thanks for raising it up with me. I won't be able to do RD for all as too many editions are affected. I will also consult an Oversighter for this.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:10, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks :) Minorax (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

No problem, I had emailed meta oversight and will respond accordingly. Thanks for your feedback in this issue. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:21, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing that comment from my talk page. I suspect 47.44.192.245 (talk · contribs) is a sock of a banned enwiki user. See en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mmoates Billhpike (talk) 11:45, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Billhpike: We had locally blocked for a day, if they persist, ask me or at RFH for further blocks. Enwiki users still can edit here if they are banned, so we can only manage based on local standards, unless if they are vandalising many wikis. Thanks much.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Re:My request in Steward requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding

In Global locks via Reasons to request a global lock,accounts whose names are offensive or abusive (en:Wikipedia:Username policy#Disruptive or offensive usernames,usernames that are likely to offend other contributors) are also eligible for locking.

Also,I see many users is LTA socks,you can see CU results to stewards checked zh.wiki users.

--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 10:34, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

@MCC214: Firstly, are they all socks of 420peace, if not please indicate properly for stewards to lock with the correct reasons. And are those you reported offensive or abusive in nature, I doubt all are. Many users are LTA sock is inadequate, all in the request if it is titled as "LTA socks" must be LTA socks. Please ensure more accuracy in your reports. Thanks.--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:00, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Improve access to COVID-19 content - an observation

Hi Camouflaged Mirage/Archive 2 As you know I am not allowed to edit enwiki and simple and also not allowed to participate by proxy, but I cannot help it when I see areas that can improve the access of readers to both.

For example, I see that there are articles in both about Social distancing, but they are not included in w:Category: COVID-19 nor in w:Simple: Category: COVID-19. Is there a way to bring this to the attention of editors who are active in these projects without being accused of participating-by-proxy? I believe this will help some readers navigate around the many pages related to this disease.

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 17:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech:. You are asking me to do a risky thing and not-allowed thing called proxy editing. I really can't agree to this. This message is also dangerous to me as now I cannot add the pages to these categories if I see so as I will be deemed as helping someone to circumvent a block. I am now in a difficult position. I hope you understand and it's worse you leave me a message on a project which I am sysop in which means I am aware of such conduct and if I did not warn or caution you, I might be seen as condoning such behaviour and I may be de-sysoped. Very regretfully, I had to issue you this caution: please stop these behaviours of asking people to proxy edit as it will be seen as sort of block evasion which the users that did so may be sanctioned. The only way to add / improve to the pages is by editing yourself, which needs to have you making unblock requests on simple and etc. This is the only way. Regards,Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:46, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi again Camouflaged Mirage/Archive 2, I did not ask you to edit for me, I asked you how I can help readers of wikipedia in this crisis without breaking the "rules". How can this be considered participating by proxy, which BTW, I cannot find a a description of here at Meta? I also have another question: am I allowed to continue editing Coronation without it being considered participating by proxy? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 04:20, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: I think you might want to contribute in projects that you aren't blocked in (e.g. wikibooks, wikiversity) which have ample COVID related topics. You asked me to add pages to the categories in simple and en, and both you are blocked in, which is by proxy already. Well if you are asking me to edit it locally, then the local policies applies which will be en:Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Edits_by_and_on_behalf_of_blocked_editors and for simple will be the same per w:simple:WP:FOLLOW. Of course there isn't a meta policy for this as the edits aren't on meta. For your 2nd question, edit for meta pages on meta -wiki is okay, but then please don't ask people on meta to help you edit elsewhere as you had already done in Vermont talkpage (of course, you withdrawn after advice by Alsee on your talkpage. Thanks much.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Camouflaged Mirage/Archive 2,

First off I did not ask you to add pages to categories on my behalf please re-read my first message in this thread, and btw you still have not answered my question.

As far as contributing to wikibooks and wikiversity:

• Short answer: You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink.
• A little longer: I tried both but, for reasons I prefer not to share publicly at the moment, I decided they do not suit my purpose, which right now is concentrating on helping the public in the COVID-19 crisis. And just to add: I know you are busy doing important work here, but IMIO you should spend some time checking out my contributions on the wikiprojects you sent me off to edit, instead of spending time deleting pages that I create on meta because, I assume, you figure my intention is to harm Meta the Meta community. I put effort to be transparent on both wikibooks and wikiversity and made my edits there easy to follow by non-admins using xtools.

To be continued later.... regards, Ottawahitech (talk) 16:15, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: What exactly you wanted to ask me? You said how to raise attention to viewers to the pages which are not included into the categories. Viewership is the local community job and as long as you are blocked, you can't participate in community processes. So I answered to seek for an unblock which you didn't do so, what more do you want me to answer? And where did I delete your pages here, there is one I did as a housekeeping which you created a page which happened to be on an unregistered user, and that page was nominated for speedy deletion which I agreed. I never said your intention is to harm meta. In addition, you had 5 edits on wikiversity, 52 on wikibooks (all, not including deleted ones and some are way in 2017). Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:32, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Template:User groups

Special:Diff/19744047/19949761，你不應該手動修改翻譯單元的編號，那應該由系統自動產生，如果要新增項目，只需要加入新的translate標籤，你的做法會導致那些翻譯單元全都要重新翻譯。--Xiplus (talk) 02:07, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Xiplus:明白了，谢谢说明。Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 07:47, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Request: renewal of admin rights, can you please grant?

Hi, thanks for granting me autopatrol. However, could you grant my request on Steward requests/Permissions as well? It's rather urgent, as wikinews-nl is highly prone to spamming while there are only little active admins apart from me. Thanks. De Wikischim (talk) 09:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

@De Wikischim: You need to start a local discussion and after 7 days, submit to SRP. If you had done these, just wait patiently for a steward to do so, I am only a meta sysop and I can't grant. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:03, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Possible...Wikibreak

Given the COVID situation here in Singapore is worsening and we are in "circuit-breaker" lockdown, I might due to various reasons unable to handle requests. For meta sysop requests, please lodge it at RFH. For reviews of my admin actions, I all along allow reversal of my admin actions w/o consultation. I will still strive to response ASAP but I can't promise that much now. Thanks Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

User talk:2.7.103.22

Hi greetings, I have seen your concern about the creation of this talk page. Actually it was created by the SWviewer. I didn't tried to create that manually. It may be a bug in software. Please consider this. Thank you.--Path slopu (talk) 16:03, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@Path slopu: Likely it's a bug, I am just interested what is your message supposed to mean to the user. I will like to know what concerns you have about the IP in editing. I am also a little concerned about the IP editor editing and am monitoring it as well. Cheers. :)Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:06, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you. There is no several problem regarding that IP. I'm also wondering that how it happened. The software might placed that warning in wrong user talk regarding other revert. Thank you.--Path slopu (talk) 16:26, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@Path slopu: Might want to leave a bug message on SWViewer helpdesk. Regards :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Help with deletion

Hello CM,

Could you please help me delete this page? I am supposed to have Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos/FAQ & Contest Rules. On the template {{Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos}} everything looks fine but on the homepage, I am having User:Wikipedia_Articles_Needs_Photos/FAQ instead of Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos/FAQ & Contest Rules. I'd appreciate your help. Regards. T Cells^Talk 08:33, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@T Cells: Tulsi Bhagat had kindly help in the deletion of the page, but the rest of the pages seems not created, do you need any help or all is fine. Sorry for responding late.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Your response wasn't late at all but Tulsi has helped with fixing the page as well. Thank you so much for your help. T Cells^Talk 09:11, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for allowing account creation

While I won’t use this account often, I do want to say thank you for letting me create this account so I can do occasional editing! Steven1825andrew2044 (talk) 13:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@Steven1825andrew2044: No problem, please don't vandalize or do stupid things across wikis and you should be fine. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:32, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok. Will behave. Steven1825andrew2044 (talk) 14:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Quick Question

What qualifies as LTA? --Steven1825andrew2044 (talk) 22:35, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@Steven1825andrew2044: Long term abuse. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: what is Long term abuse? Steven1825andrew2044 (talk) 12:16, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Translation administrator question

Hi Camouflaged Mirage,

The template Template:Navigation header/Working and convening remotely is marked as a translatable template on the page Working and convening remotely, but I can't translate the template itself. Is there a place where one can ask for help from translation administrators?

Thanks, DraconicDark (talk) 19:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

@DraconicDark: For general translation issues, please seek help on Meta:Babylon. For general translation admin help, you can approach individual TAs or RFH. For that template, it is not marked for translation, hence, it cannot be translated. Templates within pages marked for translation must be marked individually for translation before they can be translated (except things like {{TNT}}) You must set it up for translation and then marked for translation for it to be translatable. Regards,Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:26, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: Thanks for the reply. What I meant was that the page Working and convening remotely showed the template as {{TNT}}. I went ahead and set the template up for translation. How do I get it marked for translation? DraconicDark (talk) 20:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I see it's now been marked for translation. Thanks for your help! DraconicDark (talk) 21:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

@DraconicDark: It wasn't me who marked it, it's Hasley who did it. For future marking requests, you might leave a message here (although I may not reply on time), so a better place will be RFH. Cheers :)Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

no more w+ bug outside my place here

Thank you for your quick action. As title, I disabled the f..g w+ here except my place. --Hamish 19:59, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Hamish: No problem. Wikiplus bug non stop here, having used it before :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 06:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

maybe sort of urgent --Hamish 01:47, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hamish: Done. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:00, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with MassMessage

Dear Camouflaged Mirage,

Please I need your help with MassMessage to affiliates of Wikimedia communities. The details are here. I'd also like to send this message to the village pump or community portals of all language Wikipedia. CM, I apologize if this is not the way to make this kind of request. Thanks for your help. T Cells^Talk 09:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

@T Cells: I am not feeling that well for now, if you need help sending still do ask for the mass message access on RFH. I will think you holding the access will be okay, though I have not the time to assess in depth. Regards,Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. Please get well soon. I am not sure I want to hold the right. I'd rather ask around. Let me try to format it properly and ask for it to be process maybe at RFH. Please stay safe. T Cells^Talk 19:15, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Proving point 4

I would have said that Rschen7754's statement "They have been directed to several venues (UTRS, ArbCom, OC) and refuse to use them." was my proof, although now I see that he is not currently a Meta Administrator. He has been one though, and was certainly speaking as if he still were one ("I would support a block from Meta"). But if you want to take this opportunity, as a Meta Administrator, to say that there is no contradiction, and that your position is the same as can be inferred from AGK's acceptance of a publicly filed complaint, once he had reversed the improper accusation that it was harassment, that's enough for me. You can perhaps take up the issue of Hasley's conduct in that regard on my behalf, since his opposition can perhaps still be inferred by his silence, if you wish, since it has been deemed an irrelevant distraction by Billingshurst, something he apparently thinks I can pursue by talking to the very user I was complaining had locked their own talk page to me.

As for casting aspersions, I am genuinely not aware of any specific case of me doing so, and what form of evidence required depends very much on what claim is being disputed. It is also not necessary to keep repeating the evidence, if you already did so in the first instance when you initially raised the complaint in the correct forum (e.g., if he takes issue with me saying Materialscientist illegitimately performed a CheckUser on me, he can find the proof at en.wiki, in the form of a diff to the updated guidance against "fishing" issued by the local ArbCom, and the context of me saying it as a blocked user, on my own talk page, with all the links required by an investigator already present in that page, namely in my and my alleged sock's contribs links). But unless or until Rschen7754 actually provides an example of me casting aspersions, his unevidenced accusation that I have cast aspersions, was itself, an act of casting aspersions on me.

BarryBoggside (talk) 22:14, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@BarryBoggside: You have taken this to RFH, Babel, Billinghurst talk page etc, I am recommending one place will be better, hence, let's not continue here. I will say that you said a meta admin did that where Rschen isn't one is a false statement. I will recommend you researching more and providing diffs where appropriate. As of what Rschen said, and if it is / isn't correct, the right forum will be communicate to them. Failing which and if there are any conduct issues, then seek admin assistance. Without any communication, there is no way admins will be able or incline to act as we favour communication in a centralized locale well. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hər cümə 1 saatlıq etiraz nominated for deletion

Hello. An item which you created or you have editted substantially (Hər cümə 1 saatlıq etiraz) has been nominated for deletion. Please see the ongoing discussion at Meta:Requests for deletion. Thank you. --Benoît Prieur (talk) 05:51, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Hamish/sandbox1

麻烦帮删下，编辑页面报错，谢谢。--Hamish 17:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hamish: Done.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:22, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

IP block exemption

To keep my privacy, I currently using VPN to access Wikimedia projects. Although I have global IP block exemption, my VPN have local blocked here. Please give me the right. Thanks. --Wright Streetdeck 04:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Streetdeck: Email me block ID and I will process from then. Regards,Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:15, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind, #196079. --Wright Streetdeck 09:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Streetdeck: For this, I think the instruction is to email Special:Contact/stewards. Sorry I cannot help you for this. Apologies. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:35, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I have something's when I don't understand

I feel there have some problem,

1. Fauzty,IGBA and 黃冰楠 not locked,when they have x-wiki abuse (他/她們均是跨維基濫用)
2. Lovehksingers have locked,but it is not have x-wiki abuse (他/她不是跨維基濫用)
3. 愛莎 use many socks,when more than KAGE (用傀儡的頻率等於KAGE),but it is not have locked

If there don't locked,I afraid they will PA outside there.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 11:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@MCC214: Global locks are exclusively used for clear-cut vandalism and spam, for rest, the route is a RFC or Global ban discussion. For Lovehksingers, no comment on that, if you want to know why they are locked, please ask stewards. Lastly the number of socks used for an account doesn't determine should they be locked or not. And lastly, locks are not to be preventative, we cannot lock based on assumption they will have personally attacks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

If this users don't use wiki (不再用Wiki),but PA other user/admin outside there (在沒有被GB底下在線下攻擊他人),and GB can stop their PA other users (但GB可以阻止其一切線下攻擊行為),and if this user edit many years (資深用戶),but they x-wiki abuse (資深用戶x-wiki abuse),they will not locked (不會被GB)?--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 12:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@MCC214: Again, if there are such personal attacks outside, then it is better to inform Trust and Safety (T&S) and if needed, file a global ban discussion. And xwiki abuse requires evidence, please provide in your requests rather than saying crosswiki abuse. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

A break?

Sad to hear you'll be out of wiki for a while. I just knew there was an escalation of COVID-19 in your country. I have something to whom I must ask a Singaporean, about one of my articles. Take care and @ me when things cool down. --Super Wang hates PC _{You hate, too?} 09:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

@Super Wang: Thanks for your concerns. I will say I am unable, regrettably to give a response to Singapore related articles (any other topics are fine), broadly construed. There are reasons why I am saying so. Regards Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:32, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Block of User:Jvoix

User:Jvoix is a health researcher participating in the Wiki4YearOfSound2020 campaign as a new Wikipedian. You indef blocked his account last month. Could you elaborate on the reason for the block so we can rectify the error and get him editing again? Thanks! John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 19:35, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): I am sorry for this late reply due to incline health this may be the only reply I will give (for this short period of time), hope you understand where I am coming from. The user only edited twice, both to the userpage and part of the deleted userpage is as follows : "Prof. Voix leads the NSERC-EERS Industrial Research Chair in In-Ear Technologies ([a link to the site of this technology (removed in this reply)]) for the development of leading-edge technology ... to enable its Canadian industrial partner, EERS Global Technologies Inc., CRITIAS core research activities will include 3 areas of expertise: a)... b) ... c) ...". I will see this as unambiguous promotion as the entire page is based on the advertisement and a spam link is included. This is against the scope of meta as it's spam as well as clearly out of scope for global userpage. Given the user only intention and edit is to create such a spammy page for a person such as Prof Voix, as well as the username Jvoix, and there is no evidence of constructive edits, I had indefinitely blocked the account for promotional only account. However, given your statement here, I will unblock the account given the account do not persist in such behaviour. I will also strongly recommend them to read COI as well as PAID and perhaps a rename will help to reduce such problems. It's okay on meta for such usernames, but perhaps not on other projects. I will suggest them to contribute in a content project rather than meta. Hope this clarifies. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the unblock. I know it's unusual for new users to show up on Meta, but we put our landing page here since this is an interlingual campaign so new users may create user pages here. Nevertheless, describing one's profession in too great detail in their user page isn't an appropriate basis for a indef block, since asking them to revise it or even just blanking their page would rectify the issue. Also, using one's own name as a username doesn't violate any policy. Biting newcomers is a serious problem for all Wikimedia projects, even Meta, since we depend on recruiting new contributors to further our mission. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Comment needed

Hello. As you're a former sysop at zh.wv, can you comment at zh:v:Wikiversity:互助客栈#大量水晶球性質的電視節目頁面適合留在學院嗎？. Thanks. --Minorax (talk) 15:44, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Minorax: I will think it's a LTA. Seen quite a fair bit of GS action, I will recommend a block of the IPv6 range, nuke all. Should be an LTA if I recall correctly. Regards, Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

And are bus/train routes within the scope of wv? Majority of those were imported from wp. Minorax (talk) 16:24, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Minorax: Yes they are. There are some old community discussions (but hard to locate) but they can be accepted in zhwv. Regards, Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:27, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

{{Unblock declined}}

I did not notice the message in the template; but in many wikis it is allowed to remove them. (e.g. d:Template:Unblock declined) Should we codify it or remove it?--GZWDer (talk) 18:38, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, good idea. I am typing a Babel discussion thread, will ping you there. @GZWDer:. Thanks :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Personally I want to suggest the unblock template can be removed and admins should view the page history for any potential issues. BTW Meta:Blocking policy does not exist yet, so currenly we do not have an policy that can be amended.--GZWDer (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@GZWDer:Sure, let us bring it to the Babel thread. Thanks much. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Archived TOW

Regarding Translation of the week/2019 translations and Translation of the week/2018 translations they are archived at Translation of the week/2019 translations/Archive and Translation of the week/2018 translations/Archive. Note that they are merged with some statistics and therefore not identical. Kind regards, Deryni (talk) 17:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Deryni: Thanks for the note. I think we have to preserve attribution for this, hence, I didn't delete but redirected those pages (they are close replicates). I cannot do a history merge for this due to parallel history. I hope the you are fine with me redirecting. Have a nice day. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:19, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

That's quite alright. Deryni (talk) 04:58, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Other uses of talk pages

I saw your April 12 post on Ottawahitech's talk page in which you say a blocked user has no use for a talk page other than to request unblock. It bothered me, so I took a few days to think about it. I hope I can change your mind. A few days after I was blocked on en.wiki, an IP impersonated me. I used my talk page to alert admins to the problem, and it was addressed promptly. An official notice described me with a gender pronoun that I didn't approve of. Again, I used my talk page to tell an admin, who fixed it right away. I've used my talk page to politely decline invitations to participate in projects and generally communicate with anyone on-Wiki who wanted to talk to me. A blocked user may need to report or defend themselves from baiting or harassment. A blocked user who's not allowed to respond themselves offers a tempting target for abuse. There's alerting admins by email, but there is famously no consensus on whether it's private. There's IRC, but it's not supposed to be recorded. When blocked users can use their talk pages without fear, then their communication is public. They can't be accused of saying anything they didn't say--or hide pretend they didn't say what they did say. Also, a casual conversation with another editor on what seems to be another topic might be what gets the blocked user to realize what went wrong and so render an unblock request successful. Studies have shown that a chat from a sympathetic ear is more likely to change someone's mind than a confrontation with a real or supposed authority figure. With these and other legitimate uses in mind, I invite you to think about whether you truly believe a blocked user like Ottawa could have no use for his talk page other than an unblock request. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

@Darkfrog24: Hello, glad you wrote to me, replied on Ottawa talkpage (see my ping). I can't comment on enwiki / enwikinews issues unfortunately, as I am not contributing there. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:06, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, your user page makes your stance very clear. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Guidance of Fountain tool

Dear organizers,

Here is a guidance of Fountain tool. If you are wondering how to create an editathon on fountain or want to check the editathon be created or not before WAM start, please feel free to have a look.

Looking forward to meeting you online soon.

WAM International team 2020.10

Wikipedia Asian Month 2020: Fountain tool

Dear organizers:

Fountain cannot accept new articles temporarily because of a problem with the Wikimedia Labs database. It will be back ASAP. Please don’t feel panic. Let's keep fingers crossed for it.

Best,

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team, 2020.11