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Hello, Camouflaged Mirage. Welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Also worthwhile acquainting yourself with the functions of global user pages. Happy editing!

--Editor D.S (talk)  17:16, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


personal pronouncsEdit

FWIW MJL uses they/them. Valereee (talk) 11:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee Oh, sorry, will rectify, thanks for telling me, it slipped my mind, apologies. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
No worries at all, I'm sure! :) Valereee (talk) 11:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi CM - FYI, there's one more that should be fixed. Aranya (talk) 14:05, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
@Aranya   Done, thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)


Hello CM,

The ListeriaBot is flooding our recent changes at yo:wiki. I am reluctant in blocking this bot. How can we stop this bot without having to block it? Regards. T CellsTalk 12:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@T Cells Why me? I am not the bot operator. Do the bot have a local bot flag, if no then request for one at SRB or if there are local crats, they can grant. In the interim, can consider flagging them as flood flag. In addition, you might want to use an abuse filter to stop the flag. The best is to talk to the bot operator though. Regards, Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I thought you are a steward😊. Your suggestions are very helpful. Thank you. T CellsTalk 12:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
@T Cells No problem, I am just a Global rollbacker and meta sysop. Steward is beyond my paygrade :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:59, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Would you like to stand in the next election? T CellsTalk 13:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
@T Cells Thanks for your recognition, however, I didn't have the intention. I am still very unexperienced and real life issues doesn't permit me to. Have a nice day ahead. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Lock UndoEdit

Hi there, my reports for an account had been undone by you as it had already been done, however on my end the user account doesn't exist globally (Whereas normally it would be shown as locked in their contributions). I trust that you reverted it correctly, however I just want to see where it shows as locked in cases where the account doesn't exist globally. Thanks! Fnafpuppetmaster (talk) 18:00, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Fnafpuppetmaster It doesn't appear globally mean the global account is lock + hidden. I had confirmed with stewards this is the case. For the rest, it is locked. So it's already long done before you report. I don't think we need to clutter SRG any further with already done reports, hence, I reverted. Hope you understand. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:02, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
I see, thanks for the clarification! Fnafpuppetmaster (talk) 18:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
@Fnafpuppetmaster No issues. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021: InvitationEdit

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

18:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Can I report this, please?Edit

Dear Camouflaged Mirage, how are you today? I want to report this maybe cyberbulling edit on my talkpage on sh.wiki: "Zabili ti šumadinci i hrvatske neokomunjarske srbende nabrekle karine u kockoliku rupu među nogama" and bs.wiki: "guzili ti šumadinci glavićem i jajima mamicu i taticu u rupu za izbacivanje govana". Please check his IP adress, he is maybe one of editors on Wikipedia. Best regards.Uspjeh je ključ života (talk) 15:33, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@Uspjeh je ključ života Reverted and reported to stewards, globally blocked. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Sir Mirage. Best Regards, Uspjeh je ključ života (talk) 17:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
No issues, have a nice day ahead. @Uspjeh je ključ života Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Dear Camouflared Mirage, I have another to report. It's started when I send nessage to Studenac Market, a company name to change his name. User constantly treat me. Admins don't do nothing. They are not quick enough to stop this user to sabotage my talk page. Best regards, Uspjeh je ključ života (talk) 23:29, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Uspjeh je ključ života Hello, this one I can't do much. For hr wiki issues, they have enough admins, let them handle is what we can do. On meta, we have some RFCs about hrwp issues, but to be honest, we cannot do too much. Sorry I cannot assist you in this as our hands are tight. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


Hello. Thanks for restoring the revs of that page, thought that it was a normal redirect delete. Minorax (talk) 22:04, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Minorax No issues, I had thought the same when I moved, and then I am shocked when I saw there are 400+ deleted revs, thankfully it's not more than 500 and the system didn't crash. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:27, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

What is wrong with someone sandboxing in their user space here?Edit

I don't understand what is wrong with someone sandboxing here. What does it matter where they do it or where they learn to mediawiki? As long as it fits within civility, and no spam, I truly don't care where they do it, and have no issue with it being here.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst Nothing wrong if it's in their userspace, so I didn't touch anything belonging to that user in their userspace. I only take issue is when it's in spaces outside userspace, hence, the Template space I deleted. Of course there is no prohibition of any user to experiment anywhere, but experimentation in a template space for meta with a broken template isn't the most desired. And given their history, they have enough and ample opportunities to experiment elsewhere and they had did so, no reason why we allow them to continue to touch our Template namespace. I am alright if they continue sampling in their userspace, we are on the same page here if your title is what I read. As usual, you have the liberty to restore the template if you want, I will just consider it as a reversal of admin action, which I allow anyway without consultation (per my user page). Thanks for the note still. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:39, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Well it seemed they got a bit of a slap for trying to utilise the editnotice functionality, rather than a guiding hand in the direction of what was available.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:56, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Support two- or three-stage systemEdit

I am intrigued by your suggestion of a two-stage system for gban discussions[1]. I would support this or a similar system if it came to an RfC. I formally request to be notified if such an RfC should take place. Darkfrog24 (talk) 05:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Darkfrog24 We don't usually notify individuals but I will try to keep a look out for such RFC for you. One easy way to know what RFCs is coming up is to monitor closely the village pumps of different sites, for simple it will be Simple Talk, in this way you won't miss any RFCs. I don't have the time now to raise such a RFC, I had several RFCs I will raise first as those are more urgent if I had time as well as some other initiatives, but yes, this will be in my to do list. Hope this explains. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Oh, I thought this was like the English Wikipedia where "anyone who has formally requested that they be notified" can be notified without it being votestacking. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@Darkfrog24 I have no idea what English Wikipedia does, but for here well many polls can be canvassed, like Community Wishlist Survey there's encouragement to canvass. There isn't a fixed canvass rule here, it will be horrific to enforce such a rule if there is for admins here. And as what we discuss here have global impact typically, so all the village pumps will be automatically notified via MMS, not to worry for missing out. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

What's Next (Wikipedia Asian Month 2020)!Edit

Congratulations! The Wikipedia Asian Month has ended successfully and you've done amazing work of organizing. What we've got and what's next?

  • We have at least 6,672 articles made during this edition.
  • Make sure all the jury members judge all articles before December 31st, Once you finish the judging, please update this page.
  • There will be two round of qualified participants' address collection scheduled: January 1st and January 10th 2021.
  • Please report the local Wikipedia Asian Ambassador (who has most accepted articles) on this page, if the 2nd participants have more than 30 accepted articles, you will have two ambassadors.
  • Please update the final version of organizer and jury member list on this page.
  • In case you wondering how can you use the Wikipedia Asian Month tool (Fountain) in your own contest, contact the developer Le Loy for more information.
  • If you need some assistance, please feel free to contact us via sending email to info@asianmonth.wiki. To reduce misunderstanding, please contact us in English.

Best wishes,

Wikipedia Asian Month International Team, 2020.12

Community Wishlist Survey 2021Edit

SGrabarczuk (WMF)

16:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

On NDG request from SRGEdit

I didn't mean to cause any misunderstanding, but I was just clarifying that we shall not rush to SRG only when an LTA creates another account, and I asked you and IN to "leave it to the pros", right? I don't think that means I'm against/for a global lock. Frankly I have zero interest in NDG. However if it comes to CU, I could help deliver the message between zhwiki community and Meta SRCU. Hope you understand. --Super Wang hates PC You hate, too? 00:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

@Super Wang I had also 0 interest in the SRG request just to make sure the page is clean. I am just puzzled why IN pinged someone randomly, and that's it. The rest I am just translating between IN who wants to use zh and the rest of the people. "Leave it to the pros" is vauge, like some sort of let's not lock, so if you want to mean this, then next time please just put it plainly like "let's not comment" any further as that comment is confusing and sounds like you are opposing. If you want I can strike the comment on SRG about you opposing. But to be honest, if you see the SRG history, there are tons of submission of KAGE socks and stewards usually are glad to lock them at first submission. Not all LTA sock needs to be lock immediately is correct, and of course I know it, I think you can just tell IN that if you think is needed. If you wanna me to strike that comment do tell me, and anymore glad to continue the conversation. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:17, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Date formatEdit

Did you know how to correct the date format used in Community Survey massmessage? Up till now massmessages sent to Chinese communities have been using an incorrect date format (eg. 11 十二月, based on Meta's dd-MMM format) instead of 12月11日. I'm tired of correcting it after msgs have been sent, so I'm looking for a method to put it correctly once and for all. thx --Super Wang hates PC You hate, too? 09:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Super Wang No idea, maybe ask at Tech or the talkpage of the wishlist survey. It's like that for sometime already right? For some other MMS it's also the same. I guess we just have to correct it when it comes. This can be a wish by itself for the next year to be honest, ironically. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Reporting myselfEdit

Dear Camouflared Mirage, how are you? Unfortunatelly I must report my mistakes to you about Croatian history: Firstly I deleted from article Mladen II. file of falsificated territory of Bosnia and then correct that some Mladen I. and Mladen II. are Bosnian and Croatian nobilities they deleted because sources don't tell that. Truth is that Mladen I. is ruled both Croatian cities and Bosnian state, so how he can not be Croat and Bosnian especially if they come from Croatian nobility. Can you, pretty please, explain or invite some other administrators to discuss about it? You know I was blocked five times because I every move (yellow card, red card, warning) taking personal like they don't respect me and my free time at Wikipedia. I am at every warning feel embaraseed when abd where I give free time. Sometimes Best regards, Uspjeh je ključ života (talk) 20:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

@Uspjeh je ključ života Sorry, having reviewed the block log, I don't think this is administrator abuse or rather what we can handle on meta. Close to 5 different admins blocked you repeatedly and as far as I know, they aren't belonging to one particular group of admins but the spread seems alright. If you had a gross admin abuse case or whatsoever, you might want to file a Requests for comment but I am not seeing a case here. If you think that there is a need for more admins to intervene, I will think since you had access still in hrwp to your talkpage, please raise it up there, as meta isn't an appeal court. If you are embarrassed or whatsoever, or by given a yellow card or red card etc, I will suggest you that take a break and then edit constructively when the block is over. All in all, sorry I cannot help you in this situation as there isn't a gross admin abuse that I can see and we cannot overule a local decision without good grounds here on meta. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank You for answer. Best regards, Uspjeh je ključ života (talk) 17:30, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Not sure why ...Edit

Not certain why you added those links to my talk page here. I was educating the user to do things on the local wiki and then what happens? Too much enthusiasm and not enough thinking and reflection. Teach and grow people. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:19, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@Billinghurst The reason for me adding is just as responding to the false positive report in the abuse filter blocking / denying. It's not abusive in the sense what the filter intended, so I unblocked and added per the user unblock notice (that user thanked me for helping to add - I think it's helpful to them at the very least). I will usually add the content on behalf if it is due to false positive, that's the way I handle these issues. I hope this explains. As of your approach to the issue I had no comments on that and yes, if you feel my addition to your talkpage isn't helpful, feel free to revert and I apologize for the additional pings to your talkpages. For me I feel that user might be misguided or whatsoever, so I am trying to help out that user as much as possible by doing what I can. I am glad at least by their thanks to me (see thanks log) as well as talkpage message that they felt it was useful. To be honest, I really don't understand much of your message, so this response might not be the best to what you mean, if so, I beg your pardon. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

SRCU requestEdit

My request reason is very simple,if you see their edit in zh.wiki,they create many category,change other language to chinese,create/edit golf page.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 14:25, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

@MCC214 Not so sure about this, as I am not involved in the local discussion on zh for this particular case. I think why not tell it to those users who are involved in the discussion, such as @Yining Chen: or @SCP-2000:. It will be good if you elaborate on these on the local HAM page to make it clearer + maybe giving such information when you submit HAM. It will make everyone life easier in understanding the request. Thank you. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:46, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
I don't need to said more,because you know,this is zh:WP:SM,if you see the edit for this two users,you will know why I hope SRCU do this request.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 14:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
@MCC214 I did what I could, by linking this section onto SRCU. This is typically considered proxy editing, but IAR, I didn't post your post but is just a link here, I think this is still barely acceptable. Do not ask me to do these anymore, on meta, it will be better for you to say all these in the HAM page and people can transfer properly. Hope you understand the circumstances I am in, thank you. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:40, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
I need to said sorry to Sotiale,you know why I have been banned in SRCU,I feel unwell in this case,imho,revi don't do anything in SRCU.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 14:48, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
@MCC214 1st part: "I need to said sorry to Sotiale" --> Helped you translated that apology. "you know why I have been banned in SRCU," --> Yes, I know. "I feel unwell in this case,imho,revi don't do anything in SRCU.-" no comments on this. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:50, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
You know,but Sotiale don't know (don't see any my message in SRCU),some people don't know I said,in local community,many people support revi (e.g.Techyan) and said I was wrong,but I feel they don't know revi is not a good stewards,because revi declined many SRCU request in 2019-08,2019-09,imho,this is give my heart to request (花了很多心力才去交的),and help local to anti sock bandal (協助本地社群反破壞),but revi said my request is outdated messy requests,revi IAR my contributions,I was very disappointed.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 15:21, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
@MCC214 Well, my talkpage isn't the correct venue to complain about individual stewards, if you had any complains about a steward, it should be at Stewards/Confirm/2021 (in Feb). I personally have no comments on this issue other than what I had said in previous confirmations (Stewards/Confirm/2020 / Stewards/Confirm/2019 ) etc. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:32, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I don't feel confirm can removed revi,because you know,many people like a work with revi,some stewards like revi,but I would give complains to revi confirm,because I hope user and stewards know,revi is what (其是個怎樣的人),what revi put my heart in rubbish bin (其如何毀掉我的心血).--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 15:36, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
@MCC214 No matter what, always remember to say your points in a civil manner. This will help in all conversations. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Yes,and I need you fold some content in SRCU,because it is too long,thanks your help.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 10:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
@MCC214 Will collapse if needed. I will be keeping an eye on SRCU for now. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
I ping local sysop in IRC.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 11:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Didn't know you use IRC, but no objections to do so from me. @MCC214 Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Used only first day,and Sotiale join in IRC too.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 12:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Steward requests/Global permissionsEdit

Sorry, my computer is in Hebrew and I accidentally pasted it in the wrong place. I want to request both global-interface-editor and global-rollbacker מושך בשבט (talk) 12:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@מושך בשבט Oh I see. So you have to post 2 separate requests, one for GR at the GR section and under others, post the GIE one. Regards, Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Now it's all right? מושך בשבט (talk) 13:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
@מושך בשבט Yes, it is. Happy editing :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Wiki of Functions followupEdit

Hi there, I'm a researcher for the Wikilambda project. Last month we held a naming contest and I'm following up with those who voted to see if you might be willing to provide some feedback to help guide the project.

This would be a 45 minute conversation about your past experience with other Wikimedia projects and thoughts about the future of this new initiative. I'm hoping to gather a wide range of perspectives so I'd be interested in your opinion regardless of whether you plan to have further involvement.

As a way of saying thanks, the research team is offering a $35 gift card (in your local currency) for participation. We could chat by phone or through a website for audio conferencing.

If you're interested just pick a time slot from this calendar link:

Hope to hear from you soon!

// jeff (design researcher) (talk) 15:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@JDH264 Yes, I am interested, but may I know what website will you be using and how will I be able to receive calls from the team (like do I have to give my phone number). Is there a way we chat on IRC / email? Thanks much. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:27, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
@Camouflaged Mirage There are some options for the website such as Google Meet or Uberconference. I think also Skype. This would be audio only. You don't need to provide a phone number. You would need an e-mail address to register for the interview, get the conference PIN and receive the gift card. // jeff (design researcher) (talk) 18:50, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
@JDH264 Thank you for your answer. I had no issues giving my email, will consider the platforms as I don't use all 3 mentioned. Let me think about it and I'll get back to you ASAP. Thanks :). Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I am not requesting the GR rightEdit

Please be ensure that I am not requesting the GR right (see Global Rollback for 蟲蟲飛), and I am a new user, having not enough experience (1247 global edits) is not a problem. Therefore please do not say something like ‘You have 0 experience’ (that hurts), thank you. You can see my user page on Chinese Wikipedia or Cantonese Wikipedia if you want to know more about me. Best Regards --Matttest (talk) 11:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Matttest Sorry if that hurts you, I doesn't mean it. I am saying as compared to the applicant, you have much less (or rather no) experience in dealing with xwiki vandalism, so it's unfair to ask for more experience in other users. I don't mean to hurt you but I realise you had been asking / making comments on requests here on meta (this one), and on simple (asking for importer which is denied). Take it slowly, and then elaborate on this back-end work after more experience. Once again, if you are hurt, I apologize. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:15, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Never Mind. --Matttest (talk) 11:18, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
@Matttest Once again pardon me for the very bad phrasing of my point. Have a nice day and happy editing. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

SRCU for 逸箖傳統診復Edit

I feel Yun Ng Ng is not 米記123,but Big-White-Duel and Mintclown are 米記123,also,in edit types and User name,Yun Ng Ng is similar to 逸箖傳統診復,Wen Ng Ng,Zhe Ng Ng (逸箖傳統診復=小昌).--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 11:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@MCC214 I don't understand what you are saying here, just simple, why do you want to do the CU? Why aren't local blocks enough? Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
When I see their edit,Yun Ng Ng edit types is similar to 逸箖傳統診復,Wen Ng Ng,Zhe Ng Ng (逸箖傳統診復=小昌,edit articles about television series),and different to Big-White-Duel,Mintclown (米記123,edit sport types),but local said Yun Ng Ng is 米記123.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 08:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
@MCC214 So you want CU is to say Yun Ng Ng is NOT 米記123 but is 小昌. Is this correct to say? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 08:25, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
@MCC214 Okay. If you successful get consensus on local HAM page for a check, I am willing to help you explain out. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:14, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Why can't I ask a candidate for stewardship a question?Edit

Hi Camouflaged Mirage: I tried to post a question for User:MarcoAurelio at the Stewards elections but my question, which took a lot of time to compose, disappeared immediately. When I checked the history of the page I saw that you edited it using the following ambiguous edit summary: Ottawahitech there is no question section for SE, shifted to general comments section Since you have provided no links for me to follow I have no idea what to do next Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 18:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech Hey, don't panic, your question isn't gone. For steward confirmation, there isn't a section called questions, all questions will be moved to the comments section. I had just moved your question to the bottom of the page. Hope this explains. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
P.S. And I am a little sad you use {{PAGENAME}}, I know my username is long though but isn't copy-pasting easier. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:45, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Why sad? I always use {{PAGENAME}}, but I'll have to explain why when I have more time. Cheers, Ottawahitech (talk) 18:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ottawahitech Just a little less personal I felt. Nothing much though. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:54, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I still don't know where to find the comments section of that page. Which page? I cannot see my question at the bottom of the Stewards elections Ottawahitech (talk) 18:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ottawahitech Hey, odd, I can see the question at the bottom of that page, just below Hasley vote to keep. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

SRCU for 上海之殇Edit

I think you can note this case "not done",

  1. According CheckUser policy,information is only stored for a short period (currently 90 days),but all account were stale.
  2. User not submit this request to zh.wiki HAM,when this were stewards said.

Above.--MCC214#ex umbra in solem 10:06, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@MCC214 Non stewards except in exceptional situation cannot mark not done for SRCU. I will leave it to stewards to decide. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:50, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Best wishes for the year of the ox!Edit

Thank you! And my best wishes to you for the coming year of the ox. ^_^ --KirkLU (talk) 17:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Re: Happy CNYEdit

Thanks! I wish you a happy new year too! —— Eric LiuTalk 20:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Happy Lunar New Year!Edit

Thank you. Take good care of yourself and may the joy and happiness around you always. Pseudo Classes (talk) 13:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)


Sincere apologies for this - I hadn't looked at the page after that edit otherwise I would've tried (and failed) to fix it, Anyway thanks for kindly fixing that it's much appreciated :), Take care and stay safe. Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

@Davey2010 No issues, part of my duties here. Take care too and stay healthy :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:26, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


Replied here. Sorry for the delay, I simply forgot. --Edgar Allan Poe (talk) 11:57, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

@Edgar Allan Poe No issues, I am glad that the issue was resolved. Thanks so much for your help :). Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:15, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


Re your recent user page deletion - This was mine earlier. Users may be "related". Cheers --Herby talk thyme 14:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

@Herbythyme I guess they are by their usernames. They might be a jawp LTA ISECHIA too. However, I cannot be sure and they seems stopped, so I propose leaving them alone for now. Thanks for the heads up, appreciate it. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I thought the same and felt the same :-). Best --Herby talk thyme 14:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


Hi, my IP address ( was blocked by you. I sent you an email explaining why I should be unblocked, and I would appreciate it if you could read it. I don’t think sockpuppetry is a policy on this wiki, but if it is then I am sorry for breaking a policy. If you look at my Wikipedia talk page, you can see I wish to request the WP:SO in May, and to do that I need to edit other Wikipedia projects. You blocked me here because I was blocked on Wikipedia, however I did nothing wrong on any other sites and I would like to request the Standard offer in May. More details in the email I sent you. If sockpuppetry is a policy in this wiki, I am sorry for breaking it. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 17:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talkpage to consolidate the discussion. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

  The Original Barnstar
For listening to what I had to say, trusting me and unblocking me. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 20:34, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


When do you think will the block be removed? Do you think it will be today? Tomorrow? Dreamboat1234 (talk) 19:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234 As I said on your talkpage, please be patient. The steward will get to it soon. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:33, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: Okay, I will be patient. I just want a rough idea of how long it takes. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 19:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234 It will be eventually, you just had to wait. Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:39, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: Will it be this week though? Dreamboat1234 (talk) 19:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234 I really have no idea, I can ask that you please be patient. Thanks much. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: I can be patient. It’s just that I wanted to know how long requests normally take to get looked at, and I thought an admin would be the best person to ask. That’s why I asked you. How long does it normally take on average for a request to be looked at? Dreamboat1234 (talk) 20:59, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: I’m not being impatient, I just want to know how long it usually takes. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 22:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234 Once again, I can't give an estimate as there isn't, and can only ask you to patiently wait. And you don't have to ping me on my talkpage, it will automatically notify me. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit while logging outEdit

When you log out of an account on Meta, it says “You are now logged out. You can continue to use Meta anonymously, or you can log in again as the same or as a different user. Note that some pages may continue to be displayed as if you were still logged in, until you clear your browser cache”. It says I can use Meta anonymously as well as when logged in. Why is there a policy about sockpuppetry if it literally says that you can edit under a different account when you log out? Dreamboat1234 (talk) 15:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234: Just because something is allowed technically does not mean that you can do it in practice. The same message will appear in virtually any MediaWiki-powered wiki. Leaderboard (talk) 15:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Leaderboard: I see. I was just curious why there is a policy saying you can’t do it. I understand now. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 15:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for hiding my IPEdit

Thanks. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 18:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234 Sure, my duty. Happy editing. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dreamboat1234 (talk)

Thanks for your help!Edit

Thanks for your help over the last few days. Regards, Dreamboat1234 (talk) 15:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I’m sorry that I made everything hard with my unblock request, I feel like I need to make up for it. The way I’ll do that is I will try my best to take it slow and ask for advice whenever I can. Signed, Dreamboat1234 (talk) 22:23, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234 No worries, glad to hear this from you. We look forward to you contributing well to wikimedia as a whole. :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:17, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: Thank you! Dreamboat1234 (talk) 18:34, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Less activeEdit

I might be a bit less active for a few months as I have recently returned to school. I will still try to edit when I can. :) Dreamboat1234 (talk) 16:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


可以请您协助我修正这四个页面内的链接吗?Special:AbuseLog/1248163Special:AbuseLog/1184740Special:AbuseLog/1184735Special:AbuseLog/1184738AnYiLinTalk 15:21, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@AnYiLin   Doing... Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
@AnYiLin Done. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:39, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
感谢您的协助,但还是有一些没有被修改[2],可以麻烦您再改一下吗? AnYiLinTalk 15:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
@AnYiLin 是去除 wikimirror 提及吗?还是有其它的。 Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
没看清楚,现在看了具体链接,看起来需要大面积修改。我不是非常清楚是否本地存档可以这样调整,先回退我的编辑。@AnYiLin 我看还是提出正式WM:RFH要求比较妥当。 Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
是想把我的链接换回官方的链接,因为我的链接在中国大陆外也没办法访问;如果必须的话,我会找时间提一下。 AnYiLinTalk 23:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
@AnYiLin 理解。我代为提出。 Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:52, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 Thanks!十分感谢您。 AnYiLinTalk 11:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
您可以转告那位Leaderboard不要贴域名吗?因为Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat页面会被搜索引擎索引。(存档页也会,这也是为什么我要请求改回官方链接) AnYiLinTalk 11:14, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
会转达,不客气。@AnYiLin Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


hope all is well, good luck on them. --ItsSashaa / ? 17:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

@I.thium Thanks for the remarks, appreciate it. What I said there still applies still :( Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:42, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Broken legEdit

I broke my leg a few days ago. Expect me to be less active for a while. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 12:45, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm backEdit

I'm back from my break. Dreamboat1234 (talk) 14:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

@Dreamboat1234 Well great, please be productive. Be well. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:42, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Old remarksEdit

Good day to you,

Sorry I've been really busy IRL. So unfortunately, I haven't had the time for volunteering here, and this is the first time I've logged in since November.

I just saw your mention at Special:Diff/20929888. Just to clarify the independent observers I was referring to in context were you and me, as the other two participants were both parties to the dispute that generated that report, and we were not. I guess my point was that there was a clear agreement among independent observers (i.e. you and me) about the proper outcome thus far (defer to AFFCOM) but left open the possibility that other independent observers may come to a different conclusion and so reasonable time for further participation should be allowed before closing, though ultimately no one else availed that option. That said when it comes to INVOLVED situations it's always best to err on the side of caution, and no one should ever fault you for doing so.

Hopefully, I'll have a bit more time this summer to volunteer, I'm sure there will be plenty for me to help out with around here. If there is some specific long-term stuff you need help with, feel free to let me know, and I'll see what I can do. Best Regards,

𝒬𝔔 20:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

@Quantocius Quantotius Good day to you. I am sorry I am so busy in real life that I am unable to respond in time, I expect to be as busy to hence I may not be able to give a reply.
Yes, I sort of figure out this will be the case but err on the safer side and I guess this end up well. Thanks for the offer and I appreciate it. Will approach you if I require any assistance.
Warmest Regards, Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:16, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021Edit

Greetings SWMT member,

I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 10 July, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 03:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

About os.wikiEdit

Znauri (Qornisi) is part of Georgia and now is occupied by Russia, and there is non-recognized republic South Ossetia, I have made change in this page, I have just written that it's territory of Georgia but administrator of os.wiki has reverted my edit and now I am not able to edit this page because this user has defensed this page, please help me https://os.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%97%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%83%D1%8B%D1%80&type=revision&diff=494522&oldid=494521 --ჯეო (talk) 10:31, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

  Comment Forum shopping, posted to at least 16 talk pages. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
19:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4 Yeah I reckon. @ჯეო I think the others had answered properly. In general, if you have a content issue, please raise it at the local wiki. Should there be massive issues, then a Requests for comment can be done. However, I will recommend reading the criterion very carefully before starting one. Regards, Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:29, 14 July 2021 (UTC)