Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Watchlists/Multiple watchlists
Multiple watchlists
- Problem: As an editor with thousands of pages on my Watchlist, I'd like to have multiple watchlists - each containing a subset of those pages - so that I can focus my attention on changes to specific groups of pages during an editing session.
One example use case from personal experience is that during the 2020 US Presidential Election I was interested in monitoring pages related to the election. These weren't pages I previously had on my watchlist, and I didn't want to drown out the pages I was otherwise interested in watching with the addition of ~250 pages, many of which would have very high activity and that I would want to un-watch in a few months. To solve this problem I made a 2nd account, where I watchlisted the group of pages I was interested in. I then signed into that account on a 2nd browser so that I didn't need to keep logging in and out. I'm sure there was a simpler way of doing this, but it's the method that seemed most obvious to me at the time.
In an ideal world, I would have been able to watchlist all the election pages but make them available in a secondary category from my 'main' watchlist.
- Who would benefit: Experienced editors, particularly those with large watchlists or who are interested in tracking multiple categories of pages.
- Proposed solution: There are a few different solutions proposed in previous incarnations of this wish. One that I found quite interesting was the ability to set 'tags' on pages, and then filter the watchlist based on combinations of those tags. A simpler approach might be to have articles exclusively in one watchlist 'bucket' or another. This would undoubtedly require both technical and UX exploration so I won't assume to propose a solution beyond these ideas.
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets: T3492
- Proposer: Samwalton9 (talk) 00:19, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
- I like the idea of being able to tag and filter your watchlist. I'm sure every long-time editor would have some sort of use with this - personally, there are a lot of pages I put on my watchlist when doing recent changes patrol, but sometimes I forget why I've watched them in the first place. Or they get mixed in with all the other pages and I forget I'm looking out for something specific with them. I would love to be able to create/use a tag so I can filter them out separately. - Whisperjanes (talk) 03:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Love the idea of tagging reasons when adding to watchlist. Currently the only way sort pages you're interested in is to create a userspace page and sort them manually or use an external program like notepad. I would definitely use a tagging feature if its easier than either of those options. --// Lollipoplollipoplollipop :: talk 07:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- I support this idea. I definitely edit in topic-themed chunks and would love to be able to maintain a tabbed (or something) set of lists that I could look at at a glance. Would also really love to be able to place all TALK pages on their own sub-list. Jessamyn (talk) 04:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- I also like this proposal. Maybe just some "tags" and a relative "tag filter" would be a great idea--ValeJappo【〒】 08:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Each time this is discussed and considered, I need to remind people about Special:RecentChangesLinked. If you really need something today, that's what you should employ for (especially) a (temporary) secondary watchlist. --Izno (talk) 18:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wow thanks for that page, I did not know it existed. You are right, this essentially cover this need if all the pages to follow are linked from a user sandbox for example. --Ita140188 (talk) 03:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Absolutely. I'd really benefit from personal watchlists "Content I've worked on", "High-risk articles", "Patrolling", "Discussions" and an option to see them all aggregated. — Bilorv (talk) 20:09, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- This is what i need. Rahmatdenas (talk) 09:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- This is very tempting - I could keep my AfD traffic to one side and otherwise split up usefully between my content and admin work. Big support Nosebagbear (talk) 15:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I will say this is a good idea, but the implementation need not be multiple watchlists, rather my suggestion will be having filters in watchlists, like what we have in recent changes and users can customize the filters to their liking (e.g. Wikipedia namespace, IP edits etc) I.e. bring recent changes into watchlist, like a recent change of watchlisted page etc. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:09, 18 November 2020 (UTC)- Isn't this already the case? I have the same filtering bar on my Watchlist as on Recent Changes. Samwalton9 (talk) 18:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Samwalton9 Oh well, thanks, didn't notice the filtering bar. Stricken the above comment. Sorry. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Isn't this already the case? I have the same filtering bar on my Watchlist as on Recent Changes. Samwalton9 (talk) 18:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Samwalton9: This sounds like it might be outside the scope of the Community Tech team, which specifically says, "Tasks that are not in scope include: Large, long-term development projects like converting Commons to use structured meta-data or creating an entirely new watchlist interface." I'll leave it to the team members to make a more official evaluation though. Kaldari (talk) 21:51, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ha, I'd missed that this was almost directly called out as an example of what not to do :) In my defense, Ilana told me to file this! Samwalton9 (talk) 22:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- I actually think this might be doable this time. After our work on Watchlist Expiry, our team now consists of watchlist experts :) What I envision is using the "Saved filters" dropdown as the way to select your custom watchlists. So we don't need an entirely new UI. We just need a new table to store the relationship between the name of the watchlist and its items. In a sense it'd almost be a repeat of what we did for Watchlist Expiry, only this time we know where everything lives in the code. That's for a proper solution. At worse, we could make my crappy customWatchlists script something actually worthwhile. We'll have to discuss it more with the team before we go into the voting phase, but I don't think we need to archive this proposal just yet. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ha, I'd missed that this was almost directly called out as an example of what not to do :) In my defense, Ilana told me to file this! Samwalton9 (talk) 22:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- This watchlist proposal would work for my own situation. I would like to distinguish between articles I have created and articles by others that I watch for a variety of reasons, such as created by new editors from an editathon. Oronsay (talk) 18:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- see also: Option to be e-mailed for every change to a page --Molgreen (talk) 16:43, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Another see also: Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Watchlists#Add a "favorite this page" in the "watch this page" star. --Bageense (talk) 17:15, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yes please. ToBeFree (talk) 23:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- I made a similar suggestion to Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Watchlists/Large watchlist access above. May be could be combined into a single proposal. Keith D (talk) 18:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- This might bethe easiest approach to haveing multiple watchlists. DGG (talk) 00:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Voting
- Support ValeJappo【〒】 18:22, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Owleksandra (talk) 18:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support AinScept (talk) 18:33, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Acabashi (talk) 18:40, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Sgd. —Hasley 18:48, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support HarryNº2 (talk) 18:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Dr747 (talk) 18:53, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support DohleSchnackfass (talk) 19:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support KylieTastic (talk) 19:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support MainlyTwelve (talk) 19:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support GeorgHH (talk) 19:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Galadiero (talk) 20:01, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Akela (talk) 20:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support MichaelMaggs (talk) 20:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support ToBeFree (talk) 20:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Bucsfannfl (talk) 21:31, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Kisnaak (talk) 21:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Stryn (talk) 21:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Luis Fernández García (talk) 21:44, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Yair rand (talk) 22:23, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support YFdyh000 (talk) 22:57, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Jules Talk 23:34, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Iniquity (talk) 23:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support of course support, lists become simply un manageable Leftowiki (talk) 00:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Alkari (talk) 01:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Bilorv (talk) 01:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Mahir256 (talk) 01:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Wil540 art (talk) 01:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --// Lollipoplollipoplollipop :: talk 02:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support ✍ Janwo Disk./de:wp 03:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Rhododendrites talk \\ 05:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 05:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support JopkeB (talk) 06:01, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Voice of Clam (talk) 09:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Better if I can set separate email preferences per list MilkyDefer (talk) 12:38, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Geraki TL 16:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support The proposal is good because it helps to separate many pages into different tags. WikiFer msg 16:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Rafael (stanglavine) msg 18:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Llacb47 (talk) 18:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support JAn Dudík (talk) 20:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Hb2007 (talk) 21:05, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Thomas Kinz (talk) 21:18, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --F.ponizil (talk) 21:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support dwf² (talk) 23:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Emanuele676 (talk) 00:03, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Keith D (talk) 01:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support - Darwin Ahoy! 02:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support AndyAndyAndyAlbert (talk) 03:43, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Kizule (talk) 06:12, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support - yona B. (D) 08:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support הארי פוטר 73 (talk) 08:53, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Libcub (talk) 20:37, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Srđan (talk) 22:37, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Titore (talk) 00:29, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Some1 (talk) 05:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support JackFromReedsburg (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Bencemac (talk) 16:11, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Asartea Talk (Enwiki Talk (preferred)) 16:13, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support I'd prefer a tagging system to solve this problem but the need is clear either way James Martindale (talk) 16:58, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Szalax (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support FabianHorst (talk) 17:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support BoldLuis (talk) 18:25, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support DGG (talk) 00:27, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Helder 10:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Klaas `Z4␟` V: 12:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 21:21, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Support Emperork (talk) 23:39, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Golmore (talk) 10:48, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Geagea (talk) 14:07, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support -- the wub "?!" 18:35, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Araratic (talk) 08:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support —— Eric Liu(留言.百科用戶頁) 11:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Philiptdotcom (talk) 13:56, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support - I thought MusikAnimal's comments were interesting. It would be very nice to sort/filter by articles associated with a particular WikiProject and/or work group (these are the Comics-related pages, these are the Star Wars-related pages, etc.) Also for watching project-related pages like deletion discussions or RfCs. - Jc37 (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:43, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Definitely. Giraffer (talk) 19:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 08:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 13:51, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 15:40, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support SeGiba (talk) 18:00, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 18:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Bebiezaza (talk) 02:17, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support – Teratix ₵ 05:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support PinkPanda272 (talk) 08:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Aspiriniks (talk) 10:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Very useful tool, especially for more experienced editors and admins. --SuperJew (talk) 13:56, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Caknuck (talk) 15:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Sikander (talk) 01:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support F. Riedelio (talk) 10:22, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support I strongly support! Risk Engineer (talk) 15:46, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Sudonet (talk) 16:57, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Temp3600 (talk) 18:00, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Kocgs (talk) 20:28, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support DarkGlow (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support, especially the proposed solution of "'tags' on pages, and then filter the watchlist". Whisperjanes (talk) 04:36, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — tyseria 01:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Malvinero10 (talk) 03:01, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Ahmadtalk 04:38, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 14:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Linseneintopf (talk) 15:25, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support NicoScribe (talk) 16:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Nadzik (talk) 17:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Davidwr/talk 17:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:58, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- That would be great! Uanfala (talk) 18:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)