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Tetizeraz's question: Where can I find information about "the landscape of the Wikimedia movement and its structures"?Edit

Hi! I was reading Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2018-20/Working Groups and one of the requirements was "A good understanding of the landscape of the Wikimedia movement and its structures" and I'll be honest, I have no idea where to start reading about it. I know there's Wikimania, the various projects like Commons, Wikipedia, Wikidata, etc. I know there are mailing lists, although I'm not sure how active people are in those mailing lists. Sprinkle some drama (I'm not sure if knowing a little bit about discussions and "fights" is important) I just get lost in a sea of information. Could someone help me know where to start reading about it, and understand more the WMF, the Wikimedia Foundation, and the people involved? Thanks! Tetizeraz (talk) 02:19, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[]

@Tetizeraz:, thanks for this interesting question.
Since the Movement Strategy Process focuses on the structures, it should be said that the knowledge you seek is about structures: WMF, affiliates, committees and other bodies. This is the third bullet point explained on the page Wikimedia movement.
The first page that comes to my mind is Wikimedia movement affiliates. This is the first step with basic information. In my (totally personal) opinion, in order to have a "good understanding of the landscape", one should be aware of capacity and budgeting, so I'd recommend reading about Simple Annual Plan Grants (sAPG) program and APG through the Funds Dissemination Committee process. Particularly plans and reports of individual organizations, both newest and older ones. Plus, documentation on collaborations between affiliates. Research papers, e.g. on databases like JSTOR, might be eye-opening.
But this is the obvious, publicly expressed, fairly easily accessible level, and a fraction of total. Observations and conclusions from various comparisons are less obvious, because they haven't been necessarily put into words. There's a huge amount of research that could be potentially done. There is confidential information accessible for some employees, board members or other functionaries. How to learn more, beyond documentation? I'd say: get involved in the governance level of an affiliate and talk with people who have been involved. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 21:19, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[]

Bylaws, Section IV.7Edit

Hi, I have question concerning the text of the Bylaws, Section IV.7, "Any Trustee may be removed, with or without cause, by a majority vote of the Trustees then in office in accordance with the procedures set forth in Section 617.0808(1), or other relevant provisions of the Act." What is this Section 617.0808 referred to and where can I find it ? As far as I can see its not specified in the text. Claude J (talk) 16:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[]

@Claude J: Hi. It looks like "the Act" is defined further up in the page at foundation:Bylaws#Section_3._Selection. (first paragraph) - searching the web for that specific Act name and section number, gives this page as a likely result (although there may be better results, I am not a lawyer). Hope that helps, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:39, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[]
Yes, thats it, thank you.--Claude J (talk) 05:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[]

Job descriptions of WMF StaffEdit

I've been trying to document certain aspects of the WMF here on Meta, and I've been having some difficulty as a result of the lack of data on the jobs and responsibilities of the various WMF employees. It would be quite helpful if the WMF could provide the list of job descriptions of all current WMF staff. Would this be possible? Yair rand (talk) 06:14, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[]

Can you set a specific entry page per userEdit

We are looking to have different login pages for different users, e.g. the business team logs in at 'Business' and the engineers at 'Engineering'. Is this possible? Justinmreina (talk) 05:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[]

@Justinmreina: Hi. This page is focused on the Wikimedia sites. For help with questions related to the MediaWiki software, please ask at the related project, mw:Project:Support desk. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:50, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[]

Ask for a approval for a Oauth appEdit

Dear friends / admin, (and previously approved admins: @Tgr (WMF):, @BDavis (WMF):)

Can you help approve these OAuth apps:

and remove/delete/reject these Oauth apps:

If this is not the best place to notify admins, can you route me to the right one?

Xinbenlv (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2020 (UTC) []

Hi Xinbenlv! The canonical place to post requests is Steward_requests/Miscellaneous#OAuth_permissions. For simple requests anything works (and I get notified about new apps automatically), but since these involve editing protected pages it's probably good if stewards see them.

I'll reject them for now though because you swapped the names accidentally (and somewhat embarrassingly we don't support changing any details of proposed apps, so the only way to fix that is by proposing a new version). --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 23:21, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[]

...or maybe I'm just confused by the naming scheme. Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/b0885495f14a700cf6051fe5bb236c4d says "on Heroku" but has a callback URL; Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/c122a589c582777abedab6d24ad9b6ee says "on WMF Cloud VPS" but has a callback URL. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 23:25, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[]
@Tgr (WMF):, yeah, I agree it's quite confusing. Ideally we shall have only 2 apps: 1 for development, and 1 for production. However, the Oauth extension currently only supports one callback URL per app, and in the meantime, this extension does not support editing callback URL or change a few other fields, we end up creating many new OAuth apps. If the OAuth extension supports updating these fields, we can re-use existing onces. For now, could you approve these two, as requested above:
Xinbenlv (talk) 23:48, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[]
@Xinbenlv: What I mean is, the first of those says "on WMF Cloud VPS", but it does not actually seem to be on Cloud VPS.
Out of curiosity, how do you think supporting multiple callback URLs should work? (Making changes to apps is something I hope to fix once I find the free time.) --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 00:01, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[]

@Tgr (WMF): I realize you are also a team member working on the OAuth extension, that's great. I filed a few feature requests regarding the Callback URL support
Regarding, it gives you the impression that they are not on Cloud VPS, it actually is. Per we are approved to use a public IP so that we can map our application with our domain at `*`. The is an instance that is hosted on Cloud VPS. Again thank you for updating the OAuth @Tgr (WMF):
Xinbenlv (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[]
Done, I think. Thanks for explaining, and for filing the tasks! OAuth is a volunteer project (sadly, no one is officially working on it) but hopefully we'll be able to chip away at some of them at least. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 02:15, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[]

How does WIKIPEDIA helpsEdit

If I need help on my school work Can i get help

I like this app —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ‎ (talk) 23:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[]

Hi, there's a short essay that answers this question on the English Wikipedia at w:en:WP:HOMEWORK. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[]


Is this Wikipedia good for 12 or above kids or maybe it's only for adults —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ‎ (talk) 23:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[]

Yes, Wikipedia is intended for everyone. There is advice for younger editors at the English Wikipedia at w:en:WP:YOUNG. However, do note that the English Wikipedia is not censored as long as the content follows their other policies. I hope that information helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[]

Nováček.Peter's questionEdit

why is wikipedia so much pathological snob ? Nováček.Peter (talk) 23:49, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[]

If you have a concern about contents on Wikipedia, please see how to resolve Inaccuracies or Disputes. Please also consider civility when phrasing your questions. Thank you. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[]

the login wikiEdit

i just want to ask: how login wiki works? Nokiewicz (talk) 13:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[]

@Nokiewicz: Hi. The documentation at mw:Help:Unified login might answer your questions. If that page does not help and you have more technical questions, then I suggest asking at Tech. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[]

Admin reportEdit

How can I report any admin of Hindi Wikipedia? Wiki 🎮 Play 08:36, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[]

@WikiGamee: Some basic information about dispute resolution can be found at Template:Answers/Dispute. Further information can be found at Dispute resolution. That information should help you to find the next steps at the Hindi Wikipedia. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[]

Edit request to fix 'Bypass your browser cache' boilerplateEdit

Hello. This is an edit request, to update the boilerplate seen at the top of common.js and other pages, which currently starts out: "Note: After saving, you may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes," and continues with a list of per-browser instructions. In the second bullet, which currently says Google Chrome please alter it to say Google Chrome / Vivaldi (or the other way round). Vivaldi is based on Chrome, and the reload feature is the same, but the average user probably won't know that. I have no connection to Vivaldi, but I tried it and am a convert; it's tab-handling (among other things) is a definite productivity enhancer. Mathglot (talk) 22:05, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[]

@Mathglot: Hi. That content is taken from MediaWiki:Clearyourcache, and would need to be updated within the primary code so that all the translations could then be updated. That change would thus need to be requested via our instance of mw:Phabricator, the bug/feature-request/task-tracking software. However, the question of "which browsers" to include in the instructions would need to be carefully considered, because the more detailed the list becomes, the more confusing it might become for non-technical people (cf. w:en:Usage share of web browsers and the large list of "active" web browsers). You are welcome to create a new task in Phabricator, to explain the request and the nuances. I hope that information helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:29, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[]
@Quiddity:, thanks for the reply. Hmm, yes, I see what you mean. Perhaps it's better just to leave it alone. Or, what about this: we host a page somewhere on mw that explains how to do it for as long a list of browsers as desired; then at MediaWiki:Clearyourcache we leave it mostly as is, except for a small addition to add one link: (''[[Long list of browsers|more browsers]]'') which would limit the translation to two words. If we're going to propose anything at Phabricator, that would be preferable, don't you think? Mathglot (talk) 07:42, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[]
@Mathglot: Hmm, there are a few of aspects to this that make me hesitant. (a) anyone who is touching their .js or .css is probably technical-enough to extrapolate from the existing list of examples, for whatever browser they are using; (b) the default message string needs to work for all MediaWiki installations, beyond Wikimedia, and I'm not sure what criteria to use to determine when it is worth making a default UI-link that goes "off-site"; (c) a new long list sounds like a future maintenance problem! If it were a highly-sought-after list then it would be worth the time and effort to create it, translate it, and consistently maintain it indefinitely, but I'm not sure how valuable a semi-comprehensive list like this would be? -- However, if after all my hesitations you still think it is a significant problem, then please do go ahead and create a phab task! Also if you notice any outdated elements in the existing text, please file a separate task for that. Thanks! HTH, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[]
@Quiddity:, thanks. Comments: a) that's probably the strongest argument (to me). b) not sure what 'off-site' is; I didn't mean an external link outside all wikimedia projects, but a page we host somewhere, maybe mediawiki or meta? c) needn't be; project pages are never "done", and needn't be complete. Also, I was envisioning a table that woudn't need to be translated, except perhaps the column headers ('name' of browser, 'reload', 'iOS' etc. but presumably we have that already?) and the actual table cells would contain yes/no, check-mark vs. x-ed, or green v. red, for features, so that nothing in the table body would actually need translation, and new rows could be added with no translation at all. But all your hesitation is making me hesitant, so maybe I'll just leave it be for now, unless someone else jumps in. Thanks again! Mathglot (talk) 00:40, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[]
@Mathglot: Thank you! fwiw, by "offsite" I just meant all the other thousands of websites that use the MediaWiki software, e.g. -- although now I see from that random example, that they're copying an old version from English Wikipedia's custom-content (w:en:MediaWiki:Clearyourcache), which links to w:en:Wikipedia:Bypass your cache, and whilst that page is very detailed it's also somewhat overwhelming! -- Anyway, perhaps those links will re-inspire you to propose an improvement to the default so that all wikis/languages can benefit! HTH, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:54, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[]

Alison's questionEdit

Hi there. I'm an admin and bureaucrat on the Irish Language Wikipedia. The issue we have over there is relatively simple. When MediaWiki was updated some time back, it changed the Toolbar link to point to Commons only for file upload. This is all well and good, but we have a number of users who wish to upload files - particularly book and CD covers - under Fair Use guidelines. We already have a page] which prefaces Special:Upload in the local language to call out the issues around that.

But the fundamental question is - how do we update the toolbar (not the sidebar) to include a link to Special:Upload, alongside the default Commons one. It would be marked 'Local Upload' (Uaslódáil áitiuil). Anyone any ideas? I can updated MediaWiki space, though I'm a bit rusty :)

Alison 00:13, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[]

@Alison: Hi. I believe Non-free content is the main page you need to look at. If I understand that correctly, you need to have a local discussion to obtain/verify consensus for this change, and need to write a local Exemption Doctrine Policy. Once those 2 steps are done, you need to link those details within a Phabricator task to request the configuration change (and link the EDP within that meta-wiki page). I suggest looking at some previous requests to see what kind of details are often forgotten/overlooked! E.g. phab:T248971 and phab:T133137 (especially the 3rd comment in the latter - that looks informative). If you have any follow-up questions, I suggest asking at the Tech questions forum which is a bit more appropriate for this type of thing. Hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:58, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[]
@Alison: This is exactly what I suggested here on gawiki on 1st October. In addition to Non-free content policy, I suggested an explanation of the Fair Use policy. If you upload an image onto gwiki (NOT Commons) eg a book cover, then it must have an associated article. A slightly different Notability policy, allowing all ga books, albums etc, is therefore essential. I'm in (daily!) contact with editors of gawiki, and this will be done in the next few days. Lastly, as User:Quiddity (WMF) says, it's important for these discussions to happen on gawiki, as this change - allowing Non-free content - need to reflect this desire of the ga wiki community. Let me know if I can help further. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[]
@Llywelyn2000: - thank you both for the followup. I was contacted off-wiki about this by some of the editors on gawiki, so hadn't seen the other Town Hall conversation.If policy is getting crafted and agreed up on - then, great! Once that's nailed down, can go submit a request on Phabricator for a change to the wiki - Alison 17:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[]
Kevin has now uploaded one of the policies here. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[]

How to Create a Page for an artist ?Edit

I want to make a page for an artist, can anyone help me ?

White Rainbow Eagle one (talk) 01:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[]

@White Rainbow Eagle one: Hi. Please see the sections (click to expand) at Answers/Content for information about this. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[]

Translation bug?Edit

Hello to all. I am reviewing some pages of a training on the Outreach Dashboard, which transcludes from Meta. Apparently there is a bug in the translation of one of the pages and the code for the div tag appears in the translations, breaking the page there (see here, selecting pt-br as language). The Meta page with the bug is this one. Can someone help me fix this? Thank you in advance! Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 17:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[]

@Ederporto: Hi. I cannot see the bug, so I guess you might have fixed this already? If you are still having difficulties, I suggest asking at Talk:Training modules/Translation and perhaps ping User:Ragesoss there. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:29, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[]
@Quiddity (WMF): Yes, the bug was resolved after I made an edit and a bot manually reverted, and by doing so, the line of code was fixed. Thank you for your answer, though. Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 12:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[]

null's questionEdit

Does Mets the Baseball team, means anything? 2603:7000:7740:3700:490A:536C:7E5D:3820 22:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi. This is not the place to ask questions about content. Please see w:Wikipedia:Reference desk, or consult the Wikipedia article itself such as w:New York Mets#Franchise history which appears to answer your question. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[]

PotsdamLamb's questionEdit

I have a question about the editor with citation templates. When I select cite, then select a template, fill out all of the fields and click insert, it still shows the depreciated parameters, which then throws an error. Our admin created a script to run to fix these but it doesn't run very often. When will this be changed? Examples are accessdate= should be access-date= and many others that have been depreciated. Thanks, PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC) []

@PotsdamLamb: Hi. The best place to ask this question is at the feedback page for the software itself: mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. The people who maintain and/or use the software are centered there, and will best be able to help you (or learn from the answer) there. In your re-post there, it might also help if you could provide any relevant links, such as to which script you are referring to, and any example edits that might help make it clearer. Hope that helps, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:44, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[]
@Quiddity (WMF) Thank you. I will post there.@Quiddity (WMF) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:58, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[]

Unoriginally Named Editor's questionEdit

I'm being blocked by an edit filter.

I want to add A to my global userpage, but clicking 'publish changes' gives me a edit filter warning which, for troubleshooting purposes, I copied into B. Please help!


I am Unoriginally Named Editor. I have userpages on [[:en:user:Unoriginally Named Editor|Wikipedia]], [[c:user:Unoriginally Named Editor|Wikimedia Commons]], and [[metawiki:user:Unoriginally Named Editor|Wikimedia Meta]]. I apparently do ''not'' have a special userpage on this wiki<ref>Unless 'this wiki' is Wikimedia Meta.</ref>, hence why you're seeing my Wikimedia Meta page. You can [[:en:user talk:Unoriginally Named Editor|request]] that I add a userpage for the specific wiki you're on right now if my lack of a userpage on that wiki bothers you. Feel free to [[| edit this page]], but do not change anything above the horizontal rule. Thanks! <references /> ----


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Unoriginally Named Editor (talk) 17:28, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[]

@Unoriginally Named Editor: Hi. In general, technical questions are best asked at Tech. However in this case, I suspect the problem here might be due to your use of the "internal wikilink" syntax for an external link.
I.e. You have written
[[| edit this page]]
Whereas the syntax for an external/full URL like that would be
[ edit this page]
I.e. single brackets, and a space instead of a pipe ("|").
Try doing your edit again, with that fixed syntax. If you still have problems, please ask for help at the Tech page. I hope that helps. Thanks, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[]
@Quiddity (WMF):I changed it to read like C, but the filter still won't let me through.


I am Unoriginally Named Editor. I have userpages on [[:en:user:Unoriginally Named Editor|Wikipedia]], [[c:user:Unoriginally Named Editor|Wikimedia Commons]], and [[metawiki:user:Unoriginally Named Editor|Wikimedia Meta]]. I apparently do ''not'' have a special userpage on this wiki<ref>Unless 'this wiki' is Wikimedia Meta.</ref>, hence why you're seeing my Wikimedia Meta page. You can [[:en:user talk:Unoriginally Named Editor|request]] that I add a userpage for the specific wiki you're on right now if my lack of a userpage on that wiki bothers you. Feel free to [ edit this page], but do not change anything above the horizontal rule. Thanks! <references /> ----Unoriginally Named Editor (talk) 15:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[]

null's questionEdit

i noticed there is a perk in fallout 4 that allows you to be immune to radation and another perk that allows you to heal from radation if you have both will you techincally heal from radation damage that you cant even take? 19:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[]

Hello, this space is for questions where support is needed on participating in the Wikimedia movement, and is not a general forum for gaming discussions. I would suggest a different forum or perhaps the Wikia project for the Fallout series. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 19:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[]

Ruggtn's questionEdit

Can i ask for support on the wiki i requested? Ruggtn (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi. This is not an appropriate location for asking for support or feedback for a new project proposal. Please see New project process for more information. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:54, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[]

Shushugah's questionEdit

How do I change settings to automatically follow/watch pages I edited once? I currently have this setting in English Wikipedia, but would like this setting to be enabled globally for the different WikiProjects I am on, including here, WikiData, dewp etc.. Shushugah (talk) 09:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC) []

Hi. You can do this in your "Global Preferences" page, specifically at Special:GlobalPreferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist with the item near the bottom, "Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist".
There may be a complexity at some wikis if you have ever turned the local Preference on and then off again. I.e. you've over-ridded the wiki's default, and saved a specific personal preference. In that situation, you would need check the local wiki's Special:Preferences page, and make it use the global preference. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[]
@Shushugah: Sending ping for visibility. :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[]

null's questionEdit

A few uploads I've done of tif files have a second page of all black. Are there any tutorials or guidance on how to convert an image and upload it without a background (read: transparent) and only a single transparent page to wikimedia (using GIMP)? I've used GIMP to make an alpha channel and delete the background. Then locally the image looks like it has a transparent background, but the second page of all black appears for some reason after upload and sometimes a white background appears after it loads in wikipedia. See en:Charles Stewart (New Jersey politician) and File:Col. Charles Stewart signature.tiff as an example. Engineerchange (talk) 04:34, 27 September 2021 (UTC) []

@Engineerchange: Hi. Questions about specific image files at Commons are best asked at commons:Commons:Help desk where other editors with the relevant expertise will be able to find & help you. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Joao Xavier's questionEdit

Hi! I intend to translate the banner "Wiki Loves Monuments" to Ido language, but I couldn't discover how can I find the link to tranlate it. (The banner which appears whenever someone sees pages in Ido was written in Esperanto, which, of course, IS NOT Ido. I couldn't find the link to this banner here. Where is it? Best regards, Joao Xavier (talk) 21:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC) (pardon me if my English is not so good, 'cause it's not my native language). Joao Xavier (talk) 21:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC) []

@Joao Xavier: Hi. I believe that the page which has the most up-to-date guidance for translators is at c:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2021/CentralNotice. If I understand that page correctly, you should (1) write your translations into the table in the section "Main banner text", and then (2) also write a note on the talkpage there, to (a) explain which country is wrongly receiving Esperanto messages (b) mention that you've added Ido translations (and which country/ies they should appear in), and (c) ping "User:Romaine" in your message there. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:19, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]