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Lua error problem Edit

Please tell me how to solve the Lua error problem (See คน), Please help us to resolve this issue as soon as possible, thanks.--𝓓𝓻.𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓸𝓫𝓮𝓼𝓪|𝒯𝒶𝓁𝓀 08:04, 1 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@咽頭べさ: It seems to be a module imported from English Wiktionary, you may have better chances getting help at wikt:Wiktionary:Grease pit. (However, please avoid language like “as soon as possible”; everyone is volunteer here, helping in their free time, so hurrying others sounds like you don’t respect that they have lives outside of Wikimedia, and may be contra-productive.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Tacsipacsi, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for talking too eager, but to be honest, I was depressed about the wiki.

The reason is that I have contributed a lot to the wiki, but I am very hurt because my mother tongue is not protected at all on wiki and they are customizing my mother tongue in a destructive way on English Wiktionary, on English Wiktionary they falsely accused me and blocked my account so that I could write my native language in a subversive way.

At first, I didn't think that English Wiktionary would destroy my native language. Most of the Mon words in English Wiktionary are wrong Mon words stolen from the Sealang website, the Sealang website has many spelling mistakes, as most of the words are Mon words that have not been approve by Mon scholars. People currently upload Mon terms on English Wiktionary have no understanding of the Mon language and are not Mon people, and this is called stealing. (See the စေဲာ page for a solid evidence) I'm sorry if you don't feel comfortable with my statement, but I can give no great attitude to anyone who harms my mother tongue. I think you will realize how much love I have for my mother tongue in my words. I love my mother tongue more than life itself, but I absolutely cannot forgive those who hurt my mother tongue, thanks. 𝓓𝓻.𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓸𝓫𝓮𝓼𝓪|𝒯𝒶𝓁𝓀 17:11, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@咽頭べさ: I don’t feel uncomfortable with your statement, but I’m unable to help you with your technical issue, and unless you manage to work together with other enwiktionary users, it’s likely that nobody else will be either. (Since the only reason for your indefinite block was your request (otherwise the block length should have been shorter), I think you’ll be able make a successful unblock request if you change your mind.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 01:34, 4 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Tacsipacsi, I think it is impossible to request unblock, the reason is because their bad of some bad intention and blocked me, I don't think they will unblock me (if they block me, they will be able to continue their destructive activities) I have strong evidence, my evidence are as follows:

Big thief on Wikimedia user Hintha

User Hintha is not Mon people and has no understanding of Mon language, he steals Mon words from the Sealang website every day and posts them on English Wiktionary with bad intentions (It is absolutely clear that his bad intentions are to lie that many Mon words have been borrowed by Burmese, if his actions are genuine, why can't he show the confirmation and support of Mon scholars???? what is being done secretly without the approval of Mon scholars is a big theft and lie) cannot make borrowed from Burmese by believing that Mon writing and Burmese writing are the same, the reason is that there is absolutely no phonetic similarity. It is absolutely clear that user Hintha continuously uploading spelling mistakes of Sealang website Mon vocabulary to English Wiktionary is destroying our Mon literature (the true story we encountered= Throughout the ages, the Burmese governments have not given us permission to study Mon literature at all, and if they don't like it, they often arrest and kill our tribesmen on various charges, therefore, we do not trust the Burmese people at all and cannot treat them as friends at all. some of the Mon people were faced with this kind of fear and even abandoned the Mon language, also if I were to live in Burma, I would not be able to work on the Mon language on the wiki, or I would be afraid of being arrested and killed by the Burmese. That's one of the many feelings we've had over the years, if you don't believe what I say, I invite the Mon people who live in Mon State to come and study, in order to protect their language, the Mon people of Mon State had to take up arms against the Burmese for more than 60 years.

A supporter of thieves user Thadh

User Hintha is harming my mother tongue, so I told him not to continue, regarding that matter, user Thadh falsely accused me and blocked me. I am not completely satisfied with this matter, this is completely unfair and a violation of human rights.

𝓓𝓻.𝓘𝓷𝓽𝓸𝓫𝓮𝓼𝓪|𝒯𝒶𝓁𝓀 10:25, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mediawiki Account Deletion Edit

Hello I hereby come, as a citizen of the European Union, to demand that my account be deleted, as it has become ineffective due to being blocked for 1 year, in compliance with the law:https://www.privacy-regulation.eu/pt/17.htm

In part the law is clear: . The data subject has the right to obtain from the controller the erasure of his or her personal data, without undue delay, and the controller has the obligation to erase personal data, without undue delay, when one of the following reasons applies: a) Personal data are no longer necessary for the purpose for which they were collected or processed;

They invented an excuse to block it, for a year now. In the next few years I will remove all my contributions to Wikipedia

You have the right to block, and I have the right to demand that my account be deleted

User: Nelson Capitia

Thanks Nelson Capitia (talk) 23:38, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unfortunately, the software currently does not permit the deletion of accounts. See also GDPR_(General_Data_Protection_Regulation)_and_MediaWiki_software. You could consider raising an objection for the blocked account. Or, you might qualify for Right_to_vanish. SSethi (WMF) (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tools for fighting vandalism like u:Коля Ю. Павлов (like this) Edit

Dear all, I would like to ask if there is a way to block a range of IP-addresses from editing wikis written in any language but a few likely. This user at some point began to anonymously insert the list of his actions into many other wikipedias in languages he is unlikely to speak. His IP-address ranges are rather well-known as he lists his actions in the wikipedias:

89.110.0.0/16 or smaller;
91.122.0.0/16 or smaller;
178.71.0.0/16 or smaller;
178.67.0.0/16 or smaller;
178.70.0.0/16 or smaller;
78.37.0.0/16 or smaller;
92.100.0.0/16 or smaller;
95.55.0.0/16 or smaller;

Or one might use a tool to show the contributions from said ranges in all but some languages. 185.10.224.66 18:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, see AbuseFilter for instructions. -- AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 19:02, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=U:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F_%D0%AE._%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2&action=edit&redlink=1 สุจินดา ดอนแก่น (talk) 07:10, 25 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

PetScan Edit

I have used PetScan (petscan.wmflabs.org) a lot for the past months in processing wiki data, last time successfully two days ago, and therefore was very sad when yesterday it suddenly failed at all and also today the service hosted is dead. I tried with three different web browsers, resulting always in a completely blank page. Is that a temporary problem? And is here the right place to ask such a question, or where would be the noteboard? --ThomasPusch (talk) 11:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See its issue tracker at https://github.com/magnusmanske/petscan_rs/issues/141 (and phab:T347311 for an explanation). --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 11:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

From when are the XTools statistics accurate? Edit

Hello, technicians of Wikimedia. First, I would like to applaud to you for creating this sophisticated platform. You have proven that you are competent, unlike the people over at MySpace (context).

I have a question regarding XTools: On pages that were created in the early days of Wikipedia, XTools warns people that "This page is very old. Some data may be inaccurate due to how revisions were stored in the early days of MediaWiki.".

How does one know which data is accurate? From which date onwards are the statistics accurate? Elominius (talk | contributions | global) 20:06, 26 September 2023 (UTC) - last modified 21:41, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's tough to say without knowing what the XTools message refers to (I found that it appears e.g. here: [1] but there's no further context). There have been some accidents, poorly planned migrations and lack of history keeping before 2005; Graham87's "Page history observations" article documents them. Matma Rex (talk) 22:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good to know! Another likely related oddity is that the first edit on "2002" is indicated as having subtracted 40313 bytes, which can not have happened. The log shows Graham87 has imported revisions on that page. However, the "This page is very old" warning does not appear on the "Google" article, created in October 2004. Good thing Wikimedia has better tech people than MySpace, or lots of writings might not have survived those difficult early days. It might be easy to look at it back from now (hindsight bias), but hard to imagine how difficult it must have been.

Thanks, Matma. Elominius (talk | contributions | global) 00:03, 1 October 2023 (UTC) - last modified 00:16, 1 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The early "2002" revisions are funny, they show up this way in the page history too: [2]. I was curious how, so I looked at them with the API [3], and it turns out that their "parent revision" (relative to which the diff size is calculated) is the revision just before the import happened: [4]. Apparently this was a bug in the import mechanism, which was fixed in 2015 [5], but the imported edits remained that way. Matma Rex (talk) 02:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

wikilink works on the Meta user page but not in the projects Edit

Hi I am linking to a library at my user page, but this link doesn't work in the other projects where I do not have a user page such as here. Anyone knows why? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:41, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Paradise Chronicle: Your link is User:Paradise Chronicle/Library so on every wiki that's interpreted as a link on that wiki. You can use the interwiki prefix metawiki: to avoid that. PS: Also see https://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere . Thanks, --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 11:15, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Temporary accounts for unregistered editors Edit

Read this in your language • Please help translate to your language • Please tell other users about these changes

Next year, unregistered editors will start using temporary accounts.

In 2024, editors who have not registered an account will automatically begin using temporary accounts. These editors are sometimes called "IP editors" because the IP address is displayed in the page history.

The Trust and Safety Product team gave a presentation at Wikimania about this change. You can watch it on YouTube.

There is more information at m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation.

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:05, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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