Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process


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As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

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I think we should not make this more complicated than it currently is...

WikiAfrica is a mouvement at the Africa continent scale. We are in the process of registrering an association for it. But it is not recognised as a user group. It is quite informal.

Now... in Africa, I know people will have the opportunity to contribute as individuals, with the support of the strategy coordinators (in French, Arabic and English). Many editors will have the opportunity to contribute at the level of their user groups/chapters (in Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, Cameroon, IC, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa etc.). So my suggestion was to do a tiny discussion with the couple of people who regularly participate to WikiAfrica so that we can provide the perspective that animates this core group. I intend it to be a core group discussion, not a community wide discussion. I was not sure which extent I would give it when I registered. So it is track A and B. After more thorough thinking, I will keep it only "organized group". I'll update the table accordingly Anthere (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:14, 14 March 2017 (UTC).Reply

got it Do you have a particular template text that we can use to notify people and post in various places to raise their interest ? Anthere (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:30, 15 March 2017 (UTC).Reply

We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)


05:02, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Re:Strategy Talk



I see the situation on the HUWIKI is realy stuporous. I will wonder, if You have any opinion. I don't want encroach in activity our new Wikimedia board. --Texaner (talk) 18:12, 8 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I have thought Your (The WMF) are really interested in the Wikipedians &/or Wikimedians opinion. I see this was a mistake. --Texaner (talk) 20:35, 10 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

First of all excuse me! I don't want blame not you not the WMF. There really was some misunderstanding on my part. I see some uncertainty in the organizing the strategic talk. On the other side you had understand me 100% well: I don't want to interfere with our chapter's board scope!. But, I also don't want coordinate the track B. I wanted only explain my opinion, in hop it will be taken into consideration. Thank for your time and attention. --Texaner (talk) 15:02, 11 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

19:30, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

"Retired academics are more achievable" entry


Hello again, Szymon. About entry #97 of English Wikipedia, you marked it as part of question 5 (who will make the theme work and how to partner them) to Theme D ("The most trusted source of knowledge"). However, the entry came from question 4 (adding something to make the theme stronger) of Theme E ("Engaging in the Knowledge Ecosystem"). May you or I please correct it? Thanks. --George Ho (talk) 20:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done. --George Ho (talk) 00:00, 8 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Entry #85 of Meta sources on Cycle 2


Hi again. Entry #85 came from question 3 of Theme C. May you or I please amend/correct the entry? Also, NFCC="en:WP:Non-free content criteria", which I either forgot or assumed everybody knows what NFCC is, so I noted. --George Ho (talk) 21:25, 12 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Need update on Cycle 3 in local wikis


Right now there is Challenge #2, yet almost most of local wikis don't know about it, especially English and German Wikipedia communities. Should the movement team be informed about this? --George Ho (talk) 05:22, 10 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Informing all communities onwiki about the draft of the Direction


Hi again. Should all communities be informed about Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2017/Direction, currently a draft? --George Ho (talk) 06:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Strategy pages and protecting by other means


Hi. I am wondering that rather than using traditional protection on those pages that we look to manage them by specific abuse filters. We could set a filter that allows "(WMF)"-like accounts and sysops to edit the pages, and no one else. We have done similar sorts of things for archive pages, and the like. Let me know if you think that would be useful, and we can look to set things up. I would just need to know the page hierarchy you would be looking to have restricted.  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:19, 31 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

The Affiliate-selected Board seats process welcomes your support


Hello. You are receiving this message because you are active in the field of translations <3 The movement needs you! The Nominations phase has started for the ongoing selection process of two Board members, and the timeline is quite tight.

A Translation Central is available to help translators figure out what's been covered and what's left to do. Over the course of the next few weeks, your attention on candidates' profiles is particularly welcome.

While there are four languages that are especially relevant for multiple affiliates (namely Arabic, French, Russian and Spanish), you can also add others. If you can't help: please see if you know anyone in your circle who could, and spread the word :) Thank you! Elitre (WMF) and Facilitators of ASBS 2019, 13:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Conversation Starter Drivers


Hi Szymon, I have found the file:Conversation_Starter_Drivers.pdf you added on May 3 with a link to Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2018-20/Learn. It wasn't on Commons, it happened to be hosted here on meta. I updated the page. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 18:55, 29 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Enjoy your weekend


Hi Szymon, enjoy your weekend. Allow volunteers to edit in their spare time :) Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 13:31, 10 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Proposal feedback issues


I think your move of what I said illustrates the issue—I had no clue where that ought to go, so I put it where there already seemed to be discussions taking place. I think scattering feedback over fifty different proposals, not to mention the other talk pages for the various subpages, is inefficient at the least, and also creates a conundrum for editors who want to discuss various proposals together like what I was doing. Do you think it would be better to set up a central page for proposal feedback, or at least for general feedback? Seraphimblade (talk) 22:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Trying to recieve feedback from ~40 pages is totally inefficient. Please bunch up the pages under each cat and/or launch a centralized venue for feedback. Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 04:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hello! A link on Diversity/Recommendations/1 is broken. It has been archived from: Can we handle harassment? to: Can we handle harassment? — Aron Manning (talk) 03:05, 12 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the former. I hope you don't mind I added another relevant link: diff. — Aron M (talk) 02:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Please review this modification, whether you agree, thank you! — Aron M (talk) 18:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Aron Manning, hi. I just published the documents with no changes to the versions provided by the Working Groups. My opinion doesn't really matter here. I'd rather point at the WG members :) SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 18:29, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
It's a draft, so I hope it's all right to make small refinements. Can I assume they will revert, what they don't agree with? — Aron M (talk) 18:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
I don't know, I prefer not to speak for them. Wikimania preconference is happening now, maybe a part of the group is busy there, a part might be packing or flying. If you'd like to know what changes they approve or not, maybe the simplest way would be to ask someone active from the group? SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 18:59, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

I found 4 members of the Diversity WG onwiki, all inactive in last month. Do you have a live contact to them, maybe you could sometime (actually not urgent for us) drop them [the diff] or give them a hint that an improvement was suggested, and it's up to them to accept it. The atmosphere here is not "progressive", to say the least. — Aron M (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply



ask the WG members to pro-actively interact with the received feedback on the t/p. Regards, Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 09:44, 12 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Advocacy clean up


Hi SGrabarczuk, I think something has been broken within the Advocacy Working group recommendations. With this change] you moved a page to the 1. iteration, which is now linked in the navigation box. Somewhere the latest version of the recommendations, which included 10 recommendations, is lost. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration_1/Advocacy&type=revision&diff=19387938&oldid=19384467&diffmode=source Could you please take a look, this is confusing. Alice Wiegand (talk) 12:53, 20 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I found Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Iteration 2/Advocacy, for me it looks as if this should have been moved. I'm not going to make any changes, don't want to add confusion right now ;-) Alice Wiegand (talk) 13:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for linking the nutshell. The recommendations though still link to the phase 1 recommendation. Could you please change that , too? Alice Wiegand (talk) 19:51, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply



Could you please check the glossary? The german translation still links to a page in your user subsystem. Alice Wiegand (talk) 19:51, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Translations strategy recommendations


Hi Szymon, I am trying to translate the sections Why and How of the 13 strategy recommendations. Can you tell me where I would find those sections in the translate extension? Also: The pages for the translation into German (/de) are linking to sandbox subpages in your user namespace. Is this possibly what causes the problem? --Martina Nolte (talk) 21:25, 1 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi again, recommendation #1 and #2 are fully translated. Can you unlock the others too please? There are only two weeks left for the community to review the proposals. Thank you. --Martina Nolte (talk) 05:28, 7 February 2020 (UTC)Reply



Hi! I'm a active user of Mediawiki etc. Please, grant me Global IP block exempt becoz I wish not my account to be blocked when i've to use Tor or anonymous proxy abroad. thanks,Саурабх (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for helping to create the Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Recommendations

  Wikimedia 2030
Szymon, thank you very much for everything you've done to create the Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy Recommendations! I appreciate and honor your many contributions to this work, including your role as a strategy liaison and your information management and design work. You are an incredible asset to the future of our movement.

--KStineRowe (WMF) (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Dutch translations of the recommendation



I noticed you added one or two translations of the strategy recommendations into Dutch (even though it is not in your babel ;): is there any chance we can get translations of the other recommendations as well, before we start community consultations on the prioritisation? (for instance Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Increase the Sustainability of Our Movement/nl is (partly) translated.) Ciell (talk) 14:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Community Wish Survey Translation


Hi! Thank you for your message on translation request. My colleagues have completed the translation of the survey and the invitation message to Turkish. But for some reason i don't see Turkish on the invitation message page. Could you advise how to solve tis?--Basak (talk) 21:32, 14 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, it's solved :)--Basak (talk) 21:34, 14 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Community Wish Survey Translation FR : done


FRench version : translated + reread + corrected.

🍾  Cheers! I'am proud to share with you my 100 000 th translation on MediaWiki. 

Christian 🇫🇷 FR (talk) 11:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Concerned with https://di-community-round-2.web.app/Ran_(film)



you contacted me about the translation for the feedback-Page for the mock-up mentioned in the heading. You said here: w:de:Benutzer Diskussion:HirnSpuk#A request for translation you want to post a banner this week. I took a look at the mock-up page several times and I am really concerned about a pretty bad backlash. Yes, you said, there could be some flaws, but I suppose 90 to 99%% of users will concentrate on "minor inconveniences" like the not working tables and templates and stuff.

My main concern is: nobody might notice the small arrow on the bottom right to "login". I for myself thought: Alright, now, back to top... And was pretty suprised, that there are more options. I was wondering about your questions of the feedback form for a long time, but I thought, well, it's a process... So they're working on it. But then you said, you want to post a banner this week, and I got worried, because I didn't see a change. This was, when I discovered the little arrow (by accident, because I wanted to jump to the top of the page!).

As for ideas to counter the problems:

  • Use w:en:filler text on the page. I mean it seems about the menu, not the content. Hence nobody will be distracted by not working links, templates, tables etc.
  • Hint to the arrow and it's function on the page, where you ask for feedback. Or try to work the function "logged in" into the mock-up by using the Login-Button in the top right user-menu. That would be, what I was expecting initially.
  • I would even propose to work some "functions" into the moving header, while not logged in. At the moment there is just the search. I would expect at least the left side menu. But actually I was thinking the "whole header bar" is going to follow, when I scroll.

I'm sorry, I don't want to dishearten or anything. I like the work on the new vector-skin. I started to gather problems in the wiki I'm most active: b:de:Wikibooks:Ich_brauche_Hilfe#Fehlfunktionen_durch_neues_Design, so that we have an opportunity to check our templates and stuff against the new skin. I actually really hope, that it's a good replacement for the minerva-skin, because more and more user in wb:de rely on mobile view and editing. I hope you get my point.

Best of luck, regards --HirnSpuk (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hi SGrabarczuk (WMF), this should fix a padding issue the banner you were working on. — xaosflux Talk 22:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hello! Because the interlanguage links was moved from the menu on the left to a button displayed on top of the page, I can't connect articles to wikidata from the article. what should I do? Gopico (talk) 06:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hey גופיקו! In the sidebar, in the "Tools" section, there has been (and remains untouched) a link "Wikidata item" which takes you to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityPage/Q... You can scroll to a section with the interlanguage links and edit it. It takes a bit more time, but the option is still there, and it's working. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 12:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)Reply



You just posted a mass message to WD about the server switch 2021, but you linked it to the text of the server switch 2020, so there's no possibility to translate it. Would you please either change teh data in the old message, or, better, really create the new message at the right place, that's with the same syntax in Meta (the one I used in the headline)? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 07:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hey @Sänger, thanks for noticing that. I realize the page name may be confusing. Apart from that, take a look the content - the dates are correct. I believe, are the messages are translatable, too.
What appears to be the best option is to move the page to Tech/Server switch. Also, the dates may be changed into self-translating {{#time...}}. I haven't done the first only because the number of translations (sentences times languages) is too large. So I need to submit a Phabricator ticket, and in the meantime, work with the existing page. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 08:40, 28 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hey again @Sänger, I've just noticed your comment on Wikimedia Forum. I believe I've answered your first question. Regarding the latter - you are right, I didn't send the message very early. A full week would be in accordance to the Wikipedian traditions. However, consider this: 1) I've put two notices in Tech News, 2) last year, the switchover took less than 2 minutes, and this year should be similar, 3) other regular read-only windows for sub-sets of Wikimedia wikis usually take up to a few minutes, 4) the final timeline was decided fairly late, but because of 2&3, we didn't delay the process. This is why the switchover shouldn't be an inconvenience. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Question from arabic wikipedia


Hello, I hope you are doing fine.

My name is Michel BAKNI, I am Admin in Arabic Wikipedia.

Thanks a lot for the changes to the interface, however, we are having a problem in localization of the changes, the word language appears in English in all pages, we would like to change it to "بلغات أخرى".

Please ping me in any answer,

Best wishes!--Michel Bakni (talk) 07:57, 18 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for writing again,
I think you forget to add the link :(, the work this page is just a text. Can you please add the link to the page where I can translate the sentences?
Regarding the the page you added for translation, it is already in Arabic. However, feel free to ask for any translation into Arabic at any time.
I wish you a nice day.

--Michel Bakni (talk) 20:19, 18 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I'm sorry Michel Bakni, I copy-pasted a comment that I originally wrote here. This is the link. Also, sorry for overlooking. Indeed, the translation is done already! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 22:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Yyyy-mm-dd format for ja language


Hi, it has been a problem that dates given as in this page does not make sense: The dd-mm-yyyy format is not acceptable in ja I wonder what trick zh or East European and yyyy-mm-dd-HHmm type of dates are formulated? There should be several languages in ymd format, while 年, 月, and 日 are needed for ja as 2021年11月27日 for 27th November 2021. I reverted my edit as that previous pattern works on Tech News. Any idea? If not, 2021-11-27 HH:mm looks much better for me. Any idea? --Omotecho (talk) 01:06, 27 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Omotecho, huh. I had asked my colleagues what string I should use to avoid problems like this very one but maybe we didn't communicate well enough. I'll ask them again on Monday. Sorry for this inconvenience! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 01:23, 27 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Arabic Wikipedia


Hi, For the connection with the technical community that I put on Wikipedia:Field/Arabic Wikipedia Suggestions I want to attend the said meeting but I'll be busy then what to do.

Sorry if I speak softly, I am trying to translate. Abu ziyaf bin tariq (talk) 27 November 2021, 05:55 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users



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Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

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We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)



Hi Szymon,

I see you created the CN campaign for the Community Wishlist. I would like to kindly ask you to list your banners in the CN calendar, even if you will be designing and implementing the banners yourself. This calendar helps WMF and community members to plan and coordinate campaigns, as well that they know who to reach out to if they experience any problems.

Thanks! Ciell (talk) 20:24, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for adding the campaigns to the calendar. I notice that the current campaign is running on all wiki's, in all languages for 13 days without any diet: this is a very, very broad setting we do not even use for fundraising banners. This banner will be shown all the time and to every user for almost two weeks, and therefore may conflict with the CentralNotice/Usage guidelines that say banners need to be as unobtrusive as possible, and as narrowly tailored as necessary.
Could you please share your considerations for the banner setup you chose here? Ciell (talk) 16:43, 11 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Previous editons always had diets: 2020, voting 2019, voting 2018, 2018, voting 2017, survey 2017, survey 2016. Most of them also had a traffic limit. Ciell (talk) 17:19, 11 January 2022 (UTC)Reply



I just wanted to note how funny it is when you propose to "discuss" something on the proper page, but yet in your first contribution there you have already decided that my proposal will not be unarchived.

Maybe you could communicate in a more honest way. Shank shou very shush,--Keimzelle (talk) 22:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ich bin zwar auch für eine Ausweitung dieser Umfrage, aber bestimmt nicht auf solche Mätzchen der Stigmatisierung von Admins, die allein Du persönlich aus unerfindlichen Gründen massiv beleidigen und kujonieren möchtest.
Bei der Umfrage hier geht es um technische Dinge, und Dein "Vorschlag" hat ja nun mal so rein gar nichts Technisches an sich, da geht es allein um Mobbing von Dir persönlich missliebigen Admins. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 06:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Reply in 2022 WishList Survey


Hi, I've just spent about 30 minutes writing a reply here.
Regards, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 16:50, 27 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

jawiki has your talkpage now


Hi, @SGrabarczuk (WMF): thank you for your hard work on supporting communities, and esp at the vote counting season of Wishlist Survey 2022. To encourage ppl communicate with you in ja language, I welcome you at jawiki; I was noted at other task ja ppl tend to feel awkward posting on meta. (we surely read, but speak-shy culture more so in non-mother tongue)

If you please, kindly input you are open for talks in ja/other languages you and ppl are comfortable to post. This is to ladder the ditch, or IMHO ja audiences and users alike kind of en shy even if they have a say (; I'd be bald to assist conversation when you ping me. Bon voyage on jawiki, too, cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 06:17, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

User:SGrabarczuk (WMF)/sandbox/MM/Zh fallback


Hi SGrabarczuk, just let you know that I have changed the link for commonswiki in this massmessage send list, as the original page is protected. I noticed this is a sandbox, so if there is some other lists I need to update? Thanks. Stang 18:15, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, @Stang! I appreciate that. I copied these links from Distribution list/Global message delivery. Apparently, I need to check if more updates are needed. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 22:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Use Vector-2022 as default skin at Chinese Wikinews


Hi SGrabarczuk! The community of Chinese Wikinews decided to enable vector-2022 as the default skin, local discussion could be found at here. As I know few things about how to do so, I would like to seek for help for your side. Do I require to create a task similar to this one, or need approval after further discussion among the Readers-Web team? Thanks. Stang 14:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Stang, thanks for letting me know. You don't have to do anything now. We'll enable it this week.
Also, I would greatly appreciate your aid with Desktop Improvements and the zh.wikipedia community. I need to start talking to them. Would you be able to translate this message? I'd send it to all zh wikis (except for Wikinews) as soon as possible.
Could you maybe help me get that community's attention, too? Tomorrow and on Tuesday in two weeks, we're organizing office hours (feel invited!). Could you invite more people from your community? SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 14:58, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Centralnotice: Encourage...



we came into the conclusion that you are probably behind the central notice with a drawing of a computer and pink background beeing displayed on cs.wp for log in users. We would like to help, but we came into the conclusion that information given is confusing. The statment says something like (I translate from Slovak language): "This will change your skin theme and reload the page. Are you sure?" How we can be sure, if we dont know whats going on? Could you add there a link to information, about the project or reassurance that this step can be undone? Juandev (talk) 11:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Juandev, thank you for reaching out. Yes, I'm behind that banner. I'll definitely consider this, and let you know as soon as any new text is ready for translation. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 20:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

How to undo new skin on swwiki?


Hi Szymon we wrote to you from swwiki but did not see a reply. Is it possible to switch off the changed skin for swahili wikipedia? Cheers Kipala (talk) 17:42, 28 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Kipala, I believe I'll be able to reply to you later today. Let's maybe continue the discussion on MediaWiki or on Swahili Wikipedia. Would that work for you? SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 03:36, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Grammatical error on MediaWiki:Centralnotice-template-set up your interface language



There's a grammatical error in the French translation, instead of "Définissez ta langue", it should be "Définissez votre langue".

Thanks. Thibaut (talk) 13:27, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2023 submissions


Dear Szymon,

On behalf of the Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2023 programme committee, I am pleased to inform you that your submission titled "Vector 2022 and our collective decision-making processes for software releases" has been accepted as a workshop. If you have not yet registered for the conference, please fill in the registration form. In case you have any additional requests or questions, do not hesitate to contact me or any other committee member.

Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:12, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your announcement on Norwegian Wikipedia Tinget - please put this decision on hold till it have been properly discussed in Norwegian

- On Tinget in Norwegian Wikipedia you announced that the new skin would be implemented on Tuesday September 19th. This gave the community less than a fortnight to discuss and react a consensus. You did not translate your announcement to Norwegian and gave very little time to discuss a big question. There is a lot of questions. Even the word "skin" does not seem to be understood and there really is a need to get this translated to Norwegian before it is implemented. That is if the community wants it.
- This is where I wish to draw your attention to Wikipedia:Five pillars and especially the rules about consensus. This is supposed to be our foundation. I am deeply worried about being presented with what looks like an ultimatum disregarding the bit about trying to find a consensus.
- I ask SGrabarczuk (WMF) to please put this decision on hold and wait till Wikipedia in Norwegian have had a chance to present this in Norwegian, discuss it and if possible reach a consensus or if not arrange a vote.

ツ regards. Dyveldi ☯ prat ✉ post 14:46, 17 September 2023 (UTC)Reply


SGrabarczuk (WMF) there appear to be some issues with Special:CentralNoticeBanners/edit/Accessibility_for_reading_prototype, namely it is being shown on all skins but doesn't appear to be working on all skins. In a quick test, it loads on both vector-2022 and on monobook, but clicking on it on monobook does nothing (except bother the user). Please review. — xaosflux Talk 13:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hey @Xaosflux, thanks for reporting this problem. We’ll take a look at it. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 13:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

New skin on Dutch Wiktionary


You announced 3 weeks ago that Vector 2022 would become the standard on nl.wiktionary by November 14th if no objections would be raised. I provided a translation of your announcement, but there appear to be no objections. Why hasn't the standard skin been changed by now? MarcoSwart (talk) 07:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hoi @MarcoSwart! Thanks a lot for the message and for translating my announcement.
After I sent the message, not everyone on the team was available, and we were working more slowly. At the same time, on a number of wikis, we got questions and comments. Now, we are delayed with the whole process of responding to editors' reactions and also with deployments. But perhaps there's a chance that we would deploy this week on some wikis, e.g. where we have clear support and no concerns.
I wanted to share the relevant Phabricator ticket with you, since it's gonna be the ultimate source of truth about the deployment date, but I can't find it now. I've asked the team for help.
Honestly and openly, I would like to commit to sending messages to the wikis where we may deploy first, announcing the date on wikis instead of redirecting editors to Phab. But posting on many wikis is not trivial, takes time, and I shouldn't be making such commitments without consultation.
I should know more this time tomorrow, so I'll get back to you.
Bedankt! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:09, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hey @MarcoSwart. The update is: next week, we'll decide where we would deploy later that week, and where we would continue the conversations. If we changed the skin on too many wikis at the same time, editors would be concerned that we're rushing with some wikis. So we will split different sister projects into batches. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the heads-up. I fully expect one or two surprised remarks by less frequent editors, but we usually take a 4-week period for reactions on major proposals, so by now I'm pretty certain there are no major objections. I have been using the skin myself daily for over a year. As far as I can see, everything looks as intended, except for a single template. I have prepared an update to replace it when the new skin becomes the standard. MarcoSwart (talk) 16:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply



Good day. Although that there is no hard rule on parameters to use within tvar units, it is strongly encouraged to use numerals in order to prevent erroneous translations that will cause red links. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 15:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey Minorax. Hm, I do usually use numerals. Thanks for confirming what's the recommended option! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 16:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

edit regarding temporary accounts


I attempted to ping you in the edit summary of this edit, but ping failed because your username in the edit history was mangled for some reason?? I essentially reversed part of what you wrote regarding Temporary accounts, and wanted to give you a heads-up that I had made such a significant change.

Temporary accounts was and is controversial exactly because it DOES make it difficult or impossible for us to detect or address abuse in some cases. (1) Many investigations cannot/willnot be done if investigation requires elevated userrights, and (2) even investigation by functionaries becomes impossible when it requires establishing a match involving 90+ day old edits.

I recall a case where someone was disruptively subverting our governance processes. The only reason I was able to catch it and stop it is because (1) I was able to investigate without having elevated userrights and (2) because I was able to establish a link between closely related IPs casting logged-out votes across an extended period of time. I linked those logged out votes to each other, then linked all those logged-out votes to exactly one logged-in user, who had been casting fraudulent double votes.

No functionary would have invested the time to investigate it based on my vague suspicions, and even a functionary wouldn't have been unable to do anything. Alsee (talk) 02:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply