Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Editing/Quickly add infobox
Quickly add infobox
- Problem: despite being optional, the infobox is a great summary tool. And there is a huge list due to the diversity of topics in the encyclopedia.
- Proposed solution: Or having a button with a list of infoboxes to add quickly, or when creating a new article the assistant suggests a related infobox; for example: article biographies, biography infobox. In addition to adding the option to hide the infobox, this is good on mobile.
- Who would benefit: editors and readers
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets: T55590
- Proposer: Elilopes (talk) 13:51, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
This proposal has been selected, and combined with three related ones into a Focus Area known as Template Picker Improvements, for development.
The Focus Area consists of:
These wishes ranked 5th and 11th in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023, #74 in 2021, and #85 in 2022, respectively. Please visit the project page for more information. Thank you Elilopes and all discussants for proposing, vetting and discussing Quickly add Infobox. On behalf of Community Tech –– STei (WMF) (talk) 09:51, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
Discussion
- I did some work on this at the 2019 Hackathon, but paused it when WMDE picked up template UI improvements. That project is now finished but they didn't get around to browsing templates. My patch from 2019 is still up and wouldn't take a lot of effort to improve. ESanders (WMF) (talk) 14:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- It would be great if you could work on this, actually. Newbies would be happy! Theklan (talk) 15:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ESanders (WMF): We worked on this, at least partially, see m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Finding and inserting templates. We explored more ideas but had to cut corners with the limited resources we have. Please check out the prototype for a template finder (hidden in a collapsed section on that page). Feel free to pick this up when it helps. Thiemo Kreuz (WMDE) (talk) 12:14, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- This sounds like something that will benefit some Wikipedias more than others. Most Wikipedias do not have a large number of specialized infobox templates. For example: enwiki has thousands, dewiki has hundreds, tlwiki has dozens, igwiki has 8. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- - WhatamIdoing i don't know why infoboxes aren't multilingual, similar to wikidata objects. Elilopes (talk) 14:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Elilopes, I agree that we need Global templates. The smallest wikis need Wikidata-enhanced infoboxes. Most of the articles at htwiki are bot-like articles made from the 2000 US census. They simply don't have enough editors to update the population numbers to the 2020 census data. But why should they? That number could be pulled in from Wikidata instead. They shouldn't have to update it personally; nobody at any of the ~300 smallest Wikipedias should have to update it by hand. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- - Great, i didn't know about these pages Global Templates and Multilingual Templates. This is indeed a good thing to do, thanks. Elilopes (talk) 18:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Elilopes, I agree that we need Global templates. The smallest wikis need Wikidata-enhanced infoboxes. Most of the articles at htwiki are bot-like articles made from the 2000 US census. They simply don't have enough editors to update the population numbers to the 2020 census data. But why should they? That number could be pulled in from Wikidata instead. They shouldn't have to update it personally; nobody at any of the ~300 smallest Wikipedias should have to update it by hand. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- - WhatamIdoing i don't know why infoboxes aren't multilingual, similar to wikidata objects. Elilopes (talk) 14:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- You can easily go to WP:IB to see a list of infoboxes and see what you need. There are articles that use multiple such as Antonio Inoki for example. There are three in that article. Pro wrestling, Chinese, and officeholder. So auto suggest wouldn't work in cases like that. Drawbacks and limitations need to be considered. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 10:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- I have a personal script (it's not production-ready) that uses SPARQL query to find proper infobox using Wikidata, and it works pretty well (example for Michael Jordan). So I think that the solution could be more intelligent than just an extended search interface. We have a lot of data about templates (not only infoboxes) and can suggest the best ones for the current article. — putnik 14:50, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- putnik this is just a basic idea, and could very well be extended to: navbox, categories, and other information on wikidata. Elilopes (talk) 14:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Just want to note that this is a historically contentious topic on EnWiki. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:54, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- "Infoid" like "Citoid" I guess? One that integrates with wikidata. Seems like a good idea actually. —CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 19:21, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- It would be a very nice thing to have, but until we have Global templates, the configuration for infoboxes will have to be written for each wiki separately, so we'll get stuck with the same problem we have now: some of the larger wikis will enjoy this feature after investing some effort in developing this configuration, and the smaller ones will have nothing. So this should be done after we have global templates. That's exactly what I meant when I wrote the Semantic section in the project proposal. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Voting
- Support --Frettie (talk) 18:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support —2dk (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Xbypass (talk) 19:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Love the infobox, it should always be easier though to find which one to use, and to auto-generate it perhaps. Moops (talk) 19:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Totally agree. As an 3x5ension, it would be nice if the choice was part of the new article wizard and brought up the notability requirements. Wakelamp (talk) 01:23, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support VarietyEditor (talk) 20:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Firestar464 (talk) 20:29, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support SeGiba (talk) 20:53, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Tom Ja (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Significa liberdade (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support PureTuber (talk) 21:38, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Goombiis (talk) 21:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support TJ Ryba (talk) 22:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Yeoutie (talk) 22:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) (talk) 22:26, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Poldi Podolski Poldi Podolski (talk) 22:26, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support DSXG Plays (talk) 22:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I can see why adding infoboxes may be tedious for new users. SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 22:37, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Maybe using WikiData as a source could be beneficial. Winschu (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I noticed the Catalan Wikipedia has moved to single-line infobox utilizing Wikidata as source. I was impressed by their accomplishment, that we also implement that in Indonesian Wikipedia, although for now it's still limited to Biographies, Geographies, and Species. ✒ Bennylin 09:56, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Magnoliasouth (talk) 22:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Jensbest (talk) 23:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Kiwiz1338 (talk) 23:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support HeyElliott (talk) 23:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Steven Sun (talk) 00:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Skimel (talk) 00:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --NGC 54 (talk|contribs) 00:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Yeeno (talk) 01:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support XtexChooser (talk) 02:39, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support DarkSide830 (talk) 02:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Hehua (talk) 02:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Tgr (talk) 03:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support * Pppery * it has begun 03:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support EpicPupper (talk) 05:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Heeps of Wiki (talk) 05:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support Soumendrak (talk) 06:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Libcub (talk) 06:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support Radlna15 (talk) 10:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Hadi (talk) 10:32, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Kante4 (talk) 11:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Mirliz (talk) 11:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Simeon (talk) 11:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Integration with Wikidata would be desirable. Fields can be populated from Wikidata, but having visual feedback during editing would also be useful (for example, look up in advance which fields have available data in Wikidata and show the data in the editor before publishing). Lion-hearted85 (talk) 12:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yep. Wikidata integration is the future of infobox. More projects should adopt the Catalan Wikipedia approach (I'm under the assumption that they're the first to do this, I apologize if this is not the case, and it was based on another project's codes) ✒ Bennylin 09:57, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Hhorus (talk) 12:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support SunDawn (talk) 12:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support MoreInput (talk) 12:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Wikipelli (talk) 13:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support RVA2869 (talk) 13:24, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support OwenBlacker (Talk) 14:38, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Bluerasberry (talk) 14:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support CROIX (talk) 15:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support FinixFighter (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support We should have a fast way to include infobox in the article, or edit infobox. That accounts for a majority of lead section -- moreover navbox in the end of the article would have an add / remove button. Thingofme (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Nehaoua (talk) 16:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Rots61 (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Radio-Somewhere (talk) 16:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Franz.wohlkoenig (talk) 16:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Terasail[✉️] 17:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Litev (talk) 17:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support De nue pw (talk) 22:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support daSupremo 23:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gohan 03:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Betseg (talk) 04:02, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Marlin Setia1 (talk) 07:24, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support HLFan (talk) 07:28, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 07:52, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Shadow1.5 (talk) 09:10, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support HenriHa (talk) 17:41, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support MASUM THE GREAT (talk) 20:46, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support P12062545 (talk) 21:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Funcrunch (talk) 00:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Short and succint proposal. This is inline with mw:Global templates/Discuss that has been discussed more broadly (and harder to implement). But the spirit is the same: make adding infobox not a nightmare for non-techies communities. I suggest to utilize Wikidata, and make it an opt-in gadget or per project site setting. ✒ Bennylin 09:54, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support BRP ever 10:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Muurid (talk) 13:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:45, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Excellence (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support JAn Dudík (talk) 21:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support +1 YjM (talk) 00:35, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support SpacedShark (talk) 06:07, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support Mikxth (talk) 11:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support Grdhrakuta (talk) 03:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Ottawajin (talk) 09:51, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support INS Pirat (talk) 11:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support cyrfaw (talk) 12:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ~Cybularny Speak? 13:53, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Sadads (talk) 01:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support CryMeAnOcean (talk) 02:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Aishik Rehman (talk) 07:33, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support JFremd (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Hey man im josh (talk) 16:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support If and only if filling from Wikidata is an opt in feature, preferably for the specific infobox · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Alien333 (talk) 17:50, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support A good idea! will help a lot. אייל מוגילבסקי123 (talk) 18:35, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support GBSCHFRUSONI (talk) 19:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Tbartovic (talk) 20:17, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gubeko (talk) 10:07, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Kurmanbek 💬 17:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Lightoil (talk) 03:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support -- Ferien (talk) 16:22, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support KatastrophenKommando (talk) 23:00, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Kess (talk) 05:34, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support Jklamo (talk) 12:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Support. —— Eric Liu(Talk) 01:44, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support CmdrDan (talk) 17:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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Pinging to let you know that this wish and 3 other requests related to templates have been selected for development. Additionally there are updates regarding the Wishlist Survey. A mockup of the new wish proposal form is available. There is also an update on changes coming to how participants vote. Additionally, come let's explore an idea to group wishes into Focus Areas; a Focus Area may be adopted by various movement stakeholders for addressing. The first example is the Template Picker Improvements Project, which groups four related wishes about template improvements (e.g. adding infoboxes and bookmarking templates), as mentioned above. You can read more and join the discussion. –– STei (WMF) (talk) 12:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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