Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Bots and gadgets/Commons deletion notification bot

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  • Problem: When images that are used in a Wikipedia article are put up for deletion on Commons, the Wikiproject or article associated with those images are not notified.
  • Who would benefit: The Wikiprojects may have connections with the uploading institution and thus able to get permission or may be able to find a substitute for the image being deleted. Either way it will improve collaboration between WP and Commons.
  • Proposed solution: Add links to these Commons discussions to the Article Alerts for Wikiprojects and / or the article talk page
  • More comments:

DiscussionEdit

Supposedly there is something on Fr WP that does this.[1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:49, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

  • @Doc James: Hi. (1) I suggest you tweak this proposal to be more focused on individual uploaders, and less focused on WikiProjects which don't exist (or work in consistent ways) in many language Wikipedias and sibling projects. (2) See also 2016 wishlist...#Automatic notification of page creators when page is nominated for deletion, and the more positive 2016 wishlist...#Notifications for when your image is used for related ideas & discussions from last year. :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:10, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
    • Sure the bot could also notify the individual account that uploaded it and put a note on the talk page of the article that will be affected. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:15, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
      • A notice on the talk page of the article (where the file is used) would be really nice. The notice can be uniform, but it should use prepared translations (f. e. German translation for German wikiprojects). --Vachovec1 (talk) 20:56, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
      • @Doc James: Please update the actual proposal wording above, so that when voting begins, people can get the clear summary from just reading the summary. (This discussion section might be collapsed when the voting starts, as it was last year. This section is primarily for us to discuss improvements to the proposal wording, before the voting starts.) Thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:51, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Happened to notice this discussion right after I posted about the same thing at w:Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Notification system for files on Commons nominated for deletion. If there's enough support for it then I'm happy to tackle this task -FASTILY 23:46, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Daniel Kinzler's bot CommonsTicker did that a long time ago, but fell into disrepair. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 05:50, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

phab:T91192 may be an alternative. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

For article Alerts, as they currently exist, you'll have to talk to en:User:Hellknowz and make a Features Request for Article Alerts. However, see this Article alerts-related proposal. A dedicated bot putting notices on talk pages could be handled at en:WP:BOTREQ. Headbomb (talk) 04:38, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Note that there is currently a discussion about this exact issue at the Englosh Wikiversity, so this idea is certainly wanted. Also note that at the English Wikiversity it was being discussed independently from this suggestion so this bot should be created, and I agree that the talk pages of the affected pages are the best target. --Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 13:08, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I made the proposal on Wikiversity, which was a response to a problem: Users trust Commons content, use it, and years later someone finds (or imagines) a copyright problem and the Commons file is deleted, then Commons Delinker comes and removes the link. At that point, all the file information from Commons is now deleted. (Really, that information should never be deleted even if the image itself is removed). The original user may be long gone. So content is damaged and fixing it can be time-consuming, creating a possibly unnecessary maintenance cost). We could go to Commons and ask an admin for a copy of the file, but that's cumbersome and not actually legal, if the copyright failure was real. However, if the file is hosted on Commons, there is no doubt that we can legally copy it to Wikiversity. We just don't do it because it seems unnecessary. Later, if the file is deleted from Commons, our own copy could be tagged, if appropriate, for fair use (or deleted if fair use is not appropriate, whatever it takes to satisfy the EDP requirements -- but Wikiversity tends to have liberal fair use practice.) So the proposal was to copy all WV-used Commons content to Wikiversity, by local bot. However, if Commons would notify Wikiversity of pending deletions, for all files used on Wikiversity, we wouldn't need that dual hosting. The NonFreeWiki proposal would be far more efficient if it were simply a filespace on Commons, where used files were moved. That's basically a no-cost solution. --Abd (talk) 14:48, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

VotingEdit

  •   Support I would greatly appreciate the notification on the talkpage of the article. Vachovec1 (talk) 19:13, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support ideally, the uploader, the person who inserted the image and the article talk page should be notified. Strainu (talk) 22:49, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support - yona B. (D) 05:51, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Tgr (talk) 06:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support --Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talkmail) 08:28, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Jenks24 (talk) 09:00, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support David1010 (talk) 11:15, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:55, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Long overdue feature, files disappear and change all the time without substantive notification of reusers, Sadads (talk) 13:35, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 17:53, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support ideally, the uploader, the person who inserted the image and the article talk page should be notified. --Accipiter Q. Gentilis (talk) 20:05, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Gikü (talk) 20:10, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Thomas Obermair 4 (talk) 21:39, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Gripweed (talk) 21:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 🔒) (My global unlock 🔓) 09:54, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Turbojet (talk) 15:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support WolreChris (talk) 17:04, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Luan (discussão) 20:06, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Seb26 (talk) 21:49, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support - Evad37 (talk) 23:10, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Downtowngal (talk) 01:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Daylen (talk) 01:21, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Improves interaction between Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, and bolsters WikiProjects. Mr. Guye (talk) 03:55, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support DMacks (talk) 04:29, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Adding links to Article Alerts and/or announcing the nominations in talk pages are well deserved. George Ho (talk) 05:41, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Article talk page sounds better than Wikiproject, though. (If you need support word, <= here it is.) — regards, Revi 06:03, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support--L736Etell me 08:07, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Spinster (talk) 16:46, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support --OrsolyaVirág (talk) 19:37, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Yes that would help. Many file deletion discussions have no participation beyond the person who proposed the deletion. This would bring people who might defend the image to the discussion. It will also notify article writers that image is about to be deleted so it might be nice to either defend or look for a new one. --Jarekt (talk) 20:31, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Dromedar61 (talk) 20:38, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support SBaker43 (talk) 00:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Daniel Case (talk) 00:50, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support JAn Dudík (talk) 05:57, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Hogne (talk) 09:26, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Obviously useful. --Abd (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support why not? --Superchilum(talk to me!) 16:20, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support —  Andreyyshore  T  C  17:48, 1 Dec 2017 (UTC) 
  •   Support Theklan (talk) 18:33, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 20:42, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Ckoerner (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Amir (talk) 00:48, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Terra  (talk) 06:54, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Wostr (talk) 10:36, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support ~Cybularny Speak? 12:04, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Ented (talk) 15:14, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support TheCatalyst31 (talk) 17:03, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:02, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Patar knightchat/contributions 21:15, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support As proposer. Ties into this some Wishlist Survey 2017/Bots_and_gadgets/Deploy_Article_Alerts_to_other_languages Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:30, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Edgars2007 (talk) 12:13, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 16:28, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Mike Peel (talk) 22:27, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Force Radical (talk) 04:38, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Halibutt (talk) 14:51, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support HugoHelp (talk) 15:54, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   SupportDavey2010Talk 16:04, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Saung Tadashi (talk) 19:04, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support X:: black ::X (talk) 13:42, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support NessieVL (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Just make sure it doesn't spam all the pages when the image is within a template. — Yerpo Eh? 19:21, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support A notice on the article talk page would be nice, esp. as there is very little cross commons-en.wiki work with editors. enL3X1 ¡‹delayed reaction›¡ 03:52, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Yohannvt (talk) 12:02, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Anthere (talk) 16:16, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support the wub "?!" 00:11, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Ahm masum (talk) 08:22, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Ealdgyth (talk) 13:36, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Andrei Stroe (talk) 13:54, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support--Sfântul (talk) 16:03, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Julia\talk 10:44, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Alangi Derick (talk) 15:09, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Nikkimaria (talk) 17:46, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Dolotta (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support RandomDSdevel (talk) 01:11, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Fano (talk) 11:27, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:38, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support A notification on the article talk page and that the person who inserted the image should be notified. Vätte (talk) 13:45, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Headbomb (talk) 14:38, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support - Akela (talk) 23:03, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Not necessary a bot but nevertheless a solution is required. Ruslik (talk) 13:12, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support long time problem -- User: Perhelion 13:40, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Jack who built the house (talk) 22:19, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Dispenser (talk) 04:17, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Syced (talk) 04:37, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support --Suyash Dwivedi (talk) 07:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support — Luchesar • T/C 13:16, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   SupportNickK (talk) 13:22, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support BugWarp (talk) 13:29, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support Ed [talk] [en] 13:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support --Meno25 (talk) 15:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
  •   Support NicoScribe (talk) 17:57, 11 December 2017 (UTC)