User talk:Pathoschild/Archives/2010-03

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AccountEligibility checking against SUL

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There are a lot of users that's voting, that doesn't have a link to home wiki on their userpage on meta. Could you extend AccountEligibility to also checking against SUL, and homewiki. This should maybe be the default option to check against... Laaknor 07:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. You can now check an account's homewiki by selecting "auto-select homewiki" in the wiki list. If the URL parameters don't include the wiki, this option will be used automatically (for example, "accounteligibility/?event=2&user=Laaknor"). Also, the script will provide a link to check the homewiki if you check an ineligible account (if the global account exists, the homewiki is different, and the current event is crosswiki). —Pathoschild 07:50:35, 06 February 2009 (UTC)
Doesn't work. I have a SUL and it doesn't recognize that. (Says "NOTE: wiki not specified, and could not auto-select homewiki because no global account exists with this name.") -- JøMa 18:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry if I didn't find the right words: The problem ist that I do have a SUL that is valid in ~260 Wikis, but the tool accounteligibility/?event=2&user=JøMa Just answers NOTE: wiki not specified, and could not auto-select homewiki because no global account exists with this name.. I guess maybe there's something weird about usage of names that contain unicode letters? Greets, JøMa 23:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Fixed. Sorry I didn't respond sooner, I wanted to look at the issue before responding. You're eligible to vote from dewiki (but not from Meta, your home wiki). —Pathoschild 01:03:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Huh, meta ist my home wiki? Who did that? ;-) Thank you, JøMa 08:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
According to Special:CentralAuth, you created your first account here in October 2008. So, you did. ;) You're welcome. —Pathoschild 15:06:56, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

ls-testanalysis scan subcategories

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Doesn't this tool scan category's subcategory? It will be more useful to scan subcategory also.--Kwj2772 04:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it scans the entire category tree rooted at the given category. —Pathoschild 04:37:18, 06 February 2009 (UTC)


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I'm not entirely aware of your operations, as you seem to be heavily involved in the elections in numerous ways, but can I ask why this page solely consists of a transclusion of a page in your userspace? Would it not be more prudent to either delete Stewards/elections_2009/Statistics and redirect the page to your subpage, or move your subpage directly onto the page itself? Of course, I could be mistaken, and there might be a reason I'm not seeing for the setup you've installed. Best, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 12:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello Anonymous Dissident. The statistics page collects various statistics pages in one place, currently:
I think it's more useful to separate their edit histories so we can easily see how each table changes over time, particularly since ST47's page is updated automatically every 15 minutes. —Pathoschild 19:40:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, I think that the line on Fabexplosive should be «unanswered questions (later answered), dispute on lmowiki and, allegedly executes tasks without understanding them». Thanks, Nemo 10:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I updated the page. Let me know if you see any other summary needing updates. —Pathoschild 19:18:53, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

AccountEligibility script for POTY 2008

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Hello. I was wondering if we could use your account eligibility tool for the annual Picture of the Year contest for voting eligibility. Please reply on Commons account. Thanks! Pbroks13 00:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations, you're eligible. :) —Pathoschild 02:13:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Hah, thanks a bunch! Pbroks13 02:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. —Pathoschild 02:17:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Steward confirmations neutral-tagging for bot

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Hi. I saw this and am sorry if I caused a bot to miscount; I'll try and not post such misconstruable messages in the future; I could wrap w/spans easily enough, but I know that's only going to be recognized by bots that choose to look for it. Do say if that's a widely understood class. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello Jack Merridew. There's no problem as long as there's a single class used; any other bot can be coded to recognize it. Anyway, my script is the only one processing confirmation pages as far as I know. —Pathoschild 19:15:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Terima kasih (thank you). I'll use this technique if a similar circumstance arises. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

ls-testanalysis not showing 2009 data

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The program is not showing 2009's result for Wp/pnb prefix. Thanks.

Khalid Mahmood 12:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

It is toolserver problem. incubator is on s3 cluster, now replication lag of s3 is halted (more info about Toolserver status). Best regard.--Kwj2772 () 14:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

re: Global JavaScript or user pages request (SynchBot)

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Hello Seha. See your request for global JavaScript or user pages, which is currently waiting for your response. —Pathoschild 11:02:32, 22 februar 2009 (UTC), which is currently waiting for your response. —Pathoschild 11:02:32, 22 februar 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I'm no longer running the bot for user pages, unless you first create an account on all Wikimedia wikis where the bot will run (see the instructions on that page). Let me know if you're interested in doing that. —Pathoschild 01:11:36, 19 mart 2009 (UTC)
Thank You for your efforts...
... but there is no more need to change the pages becouse of commons. There is a account with the same name I can´t usurp while he have some contributions from year 2006. I´m thinking about renaming. Thx again and best regards --Seha 05:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


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Could you add detection of global blocks?  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

This is now a feature of Stalktoy. —Pathoschild 19:07:32, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

AJAX sysop error

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TypeError: $("deleteconfirm") is null (284)

Got this on Commons, deleting a file. Deleting pages is fine.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 20:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed. —Pathoschild 04:24:34, 06 April 2009 (UTC)

Stewardry error

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Despite being a valid db name, map_bmswiki doesn't work? Using the corresponding name does work though. Mind taking a look at how that's validated/looked up?  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. —Pathoschild 23:31:00, 02 April 2009 (UTC)

MooTool error in IE8

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I am facing error from MooTool in IE8. My JS console found the bug in following syntax with message "Needs identifier".

// optional
	if(args.class) box.set('class', args.class + ' ' + box.get('class'));

Thank you.--Kwj2772 () 10:09, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I think this was fixed by now. —Pathoschild 19:10:34, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Template talk:User language category#Numbering

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How easy would it be to implement my suggestions at that discussion? Warmest Regards, :)—thecurran Speak your mind my past 06:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello thecurran. Sort keys are based on the first character, rather than a numerical value. Your suggestion would sort them correctly, but list every user under "-".
The category explanation is already translated into the language for that category. —Pathoschild 19:16:24, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

AccountEligibility script for POTY 2009

Hello. Thank you very much for making "AccountEligibility script for POTY 2009"!! Would you modify it to fit rules of (1)You shold have registered before 2010-01-01; and (2) You should have more than 200 edits before 2010-01-15T23:59 in any single Wikimedia projects? --miya 07:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Or we'd better change the wording of (2) to "before 2010-01-16"?--miya 22:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello Miya. I updated the requirements accordingly, using the before-16-January wording. —Pathoschild 01:50:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you!!! --miya 22:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


Check user permission

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Can you please assist here - I have been ellected check user by Hebrew wiki comunity. This is the 8th or 9th election - but this is the first in which the voting system we use (and which was chosen by the community in according with our understanding of the Foundation's requirements) is posing a problem. Deror avi 08:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello Deror avi. Another steward has already flagged the candidates as checkusers. —Pathoschild 04:49:05, 06 February 2009 (UTC)

How can you help me arrange a Beurcrate Election for Pashto Wikipedia

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Dear Pathoschild Greetings. I am writing to you in order to let you know that Pashto wikipedia does not have any Beurocrat and that wiki urgently need one. I tried to request for one but i was refused stating that i should arrange an election. Could you tell me how i can arrange such an election and how can i set up a polling system there.

Kindly guide me throgh this process i would be thankful to you for this favor

--احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل 10:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل. Stewards normally do not grant requests for bureaucrat access on small wikis. Local bureaucrats are not needed to handle the small request traffic on small wikis, and can cause many problems due to the perception of power on the part of new community members. There does not seem to be any urgent need for a bureaucrat on that wiki; I can only find one request from that wiki was in 2008. —Pathoschild 20:50:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Razorflame bot

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I have unblock the user. But please tell him to stop using bot before he got the bot permission.--Bellayet 04:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I have already done so. Let me know if and when it passes. Cheers, Razorflame 04:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy

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Hello. I ask you to complete the bot policy implementation on some wikis. I have made all below, except the last.

Thanks. --Lucas Nunes 14:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 07:33:19, 03 March 2009 (UTC)

Could you also do htwikipedia? -Djsasso 02:50, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 06:24:40, 08 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy 2

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Hello again. More wikis to complete the bot policy implementation:

--Lucas Nunes 23:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

All done except lowiki, on which the request was misplaced (I moved the request and added it to the proposal table). Thank you. —Pathoschild 09:32:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

With regard to log actions en masse

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Hello there Pathoschild. First of all, thank you for your diligence in dealing with the kind of nonsense we see here. Have you ever considered using the flood flag for sprees such as this? Your actions there, for example, were relatively uncontroversial, and it would just help to keep the RecentChanges feed clean. Just a thought. Best, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 10:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello Anonymous Dissident. Does the flood flag hide events on Special:Log, or only on Special:RecentChanges? —Pathoschild 10:51:41, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Only on the recent changes. Compare the Special:RecentChanges as of 11:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC) with my deletion log, with regard for user:Anonymous Dissident/testpage. While it's in my mind, another advantage of the usage of the flood flag is stated on the page itself: "Bureaucrats may wish to use the flag when renaming indefinitely blocked accounts with inappropriate usernames." I suppose this could be extrapolated in its benefit to the implementation of the Steward tools as well. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 11:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Okay. —Pathoschild 12:02:07, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy on ka.wikipedia

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Hi, proposal for bot policy is here. Cheers ;o) --Dalibor Bosits 21:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, implemented. —Pathoschild 06:59:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy on hy.wikipedia

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Proposal for bot policy is hy:Վիքիփեդիայի քննարկում:Բոտի կարգավիճակի դիմումներ. Has been open for more than one week and has a supporter. I would like to propose implementing it. Razorflame 20:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Implemented. —Pathoschild 05:38:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy on kvwiki

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Hi, kvwiki is ready to implement the standard bot policy. I already updated the local bot policy and Bot policy/Implementation. --Silvonen 16:40, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 05:39:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy 3

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More wikis:

--Lucas Nunes 19:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 04:34:00, 06 April 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy implementation process

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I worry about applying the bot policy as currently conceived to wikis where the local community has never seen the discussion about the implementation of that policy. If we really want global bot policy to be opt-out rather than opt-in, we should clarify that here on meta, get consensus from people across a number of languages, and leave a different sort of memo. The memo could say something like "This wiki is now recognizing bots by default according to the global bot policy. To opt out of this policy and review bot requests locally, read on." An english-language message left for a week on a village pump that native-language authors do not use, on wikis where there are active editors (and sometimes active admins) simply isn't due notice, and we should not pretend that it is.

see Talk:Bot policy#Making this policy opt-out rather than opt-in

---- sj | help translate |+ 03:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I've commented there. —Pathoschild 04:34:00, 06 April 2009 (UTC)

maintenance of bot flags at Wikipedia in Yiddisch

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Dear Pathoschild, I noticed that you cared about bot flag requests at Wikipedia in Yiddisch. Could you please add the flags for the new requested there? Thanks in advance! Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 12:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I received help from DerHexer. Thanks anyway! Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 19:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Unified login for Dogmatico account

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Hello Pathoschild, I am trying to unify my accounts- Dogmatico at catalan wikipedia and wikisource- but can't do it because a Dogmatico account exists in the english Wikipedia. The english account was created on 2005 and I am not sure if it is mine. Also, when trying to retrieve the password, says that there is no e-mail address recorded for user "Dogmatico". Can you check if the account is active?

Hello Dogmatico. You cannot regain access to the en-Wikipedia account unless you can prove you own it. However, the en-Wikipedia account can be renamed to allow you to create a new 'Dogmatico' account on that wiki. You can request this at w:Wikipedia:Changing username/SUL. —Pathoschild 21:49:16, 07 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thank you.

bg, pam and nds-nl wikipedia global bot policy

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Could you make bg, pam and nds-nl wikipedia member of the global bot wiki's ???? Carsrac 12:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

This was done at some point. —Pathoschild 21:51:04, 07 September 2009 (UTC)


Mailing to no-voters

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Is there any rule against private mails to no-voters by steward candidates? --Seha 17:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello Seha. Unless there are specific reasons for privacy, you should contact users on their user_talk pages.
Contacting a particular voter to discuss their comment is fine. However, systematically contacting users based on their positions is called canvassing, considered disruptive, and strongly discouraged. While there is no specific policy on Meta, users caught canvassing despite requests to stop have previously been blocked indefinitely. Some wikis have specific policies against canvassing, such as the English Wikipedia. —Pathoschild 00:26:49, 05 February 2009 (UTC)
Merendetha has contact me by mail while I have change my support to oppose in his steward election. Thats why I am asking. I think that is not the best way to support his election. --Seha 09:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Contacting a few voters to discuss their objections is fine, so long as he does not systematically contact opposers to convince them to support (which is canvassing). —Pathoschild 04:52:24, 06 February 2009 (UTC)

Please watch User talk:Maxipuchi

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Hi Pathoschild, can you see this? Thanks. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 02:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello Mikhailov. What should I see on that page? —Pathoschild 02:15:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Should that page put following Warning :
  Please do not add commercial links or promotional references — or links to your own private websites — to Wikimedia. Wikimedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. See the introduction page if you would like to learn more about contributing to Meta-Wiki. Thanks.
unsigned by Mikhailov Kusserow on 02:19, 26 February 2009.
Not on that page, since Maxipuchi is not the user who placed the link. Also, it is neither a commercial link nor a promotional reference, and does not seem to be a link to a private website.` —Pathoschild 02:34:40, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


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Hi Pathos, can you blocked this user? Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 05:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 05:32:42, 02 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Pathos. Deo Volente, Pathoschild. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 07:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Block on

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Hi, I was recently blocked, and I am confused as to why this has happened as I have never edited anything on wikipedia. When I tryed to vist my talk page to add the given unblock text, it gave me the same error message, so I could not post that. My IP address was blocked for "web proxy and cross wiki abuse." As I said before, I have never posted anything on wikipedia, so I am not sure why this has happened. Is there any way I can remove this block? Thank you. unsigned by on 04:27, 27 October 2009.

Hello 209. Your IP is blocked on several wikis because it is used by RackForce Hosting, and was abused to run a web proxy. You seem to have been affected by a temporary global block, which you can avoid by registering an account and logging in. The global block has expired, so you should not be blocked now. —Pathoschild 19:51:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Reason for Budelberger's block

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What did User talk:Budelberger do? You block him without tell reasons. --虞海 (Yú Hǎi) 12:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I did not block him; see his block log. —Pathoschild 19:25:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


I want to know! (when swwiki was created)

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Hello, Pathoschild. Initially this message I wrote to user:spacebirdy, but wasn't successfully! The message was:

Could you please show me the way to know when our Wikipedia was set up? I asked it because I'm about to create an aticle about it. And I want it because I wrote a few articles about some wikis language (English, Geraman, and Simple) their all shown when their Wikis got started! I hope you'll help me for this. My home wiki is Swahili Wikipedia. Cheers.--Wikipedian (Activist) 07:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello Muddyb Blast. The Swahili Wikipedia was created before the existing request processes on Meta existed, so there's no documentation of when it was created.
We can extrapolate, though. The first edit to the Swahili Wikipedia is dated 8 March 2003, although that's not necessarily when it was created. A Wikipedia-l message, "[Wikipedia] Re: Interlingua language list" dated 24 February 2003 (and the next response), suggests that it didn't exist yet at that time. Therefore, the wiki seems to have been created sometime between 24 February and 8 March 2003. —Pathoschild 09:05:41, 06 February 2009 (UTC)
So, I have to write the Swahili Wikipedia were established on 8 March 2003 according to the situation seemed, isn't it? If so, please let me write it! Thank you for your time. Cheers,--Wikipedian (Activist) 09:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that would be approximately correct. —Pathoschild 10:07:06, 06 February 2009 (UTC)
Searching on intl-l reveals evidence (, that a Swahili project existed already in 2002. I guess it was batch created along with a number of other projects without anybody requesting it and 8 March 2003 was the first time somebody edited the project ( --::Slomox:: >< 17:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
If there are still some phase2 SVN archives around (are there?), that could lead to the exact date of the creation. (Or asking Brion) --::Slomox:: >< 17:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Sranantongo translators

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hello. I Am marchano from holland. And i wat to know ive you have any contact or emailadresses of the sranantongo translaters. my emailadress is

already thanks. unsigned by Mchano on 17:51, 9 February 2009.

Hello Marchano. Category:User srn and w:Category:User srn list two native users, both of whom understand either English or Dutch. You can email them by viewing their user page, and clicking "Email this user" on the left sidebar. —Pathoschild 20:36:47, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
But i saw that you also can speak Sranantongo with one of the translators? can ..ive you want...please add me in your msn-messenger list? Talking om wikipedia is not a usual place... already thanks j.ischers hotmail com ( you can send me a personal message to my wikipedia-homepage by discussion...) unsigned by Mchano on 16:56, 15 February 2009.
I cannot speak Sranan Tongo. I do not use MSN Messenger, but you can contact me on IRC as "Pathoschild" (look for me in #wikimediaconnect). —Pathoschild 19:08:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
ok thanks. unsigned by Mchano on 23:23, 15 February 2009.
You're welcome. —Pathoschild 23:33:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


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Hi. You tried to get this page deleted two years ago. What came of that discussion and why was it kept? It seems purposeless from what I can see. Thanks for your time. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 14:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It apparently has some still-undefined historical significance to Japanese Wikipedians; see the deletion discussion. Try asking Aphaia. —Pathoschild 20:09:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hmm. Looking at the discussion, its supposed historical importance is liberally alluded to but never explained, as you say. Perhaps I'll ask Aphaia and, depending on the way she responds and if she can rationalise the page's existence, nominate it again. Thanks for your input. Best —Anonymous DissidentTalk 11:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Mirandese Wikipedia

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Hi! I'm Chabi. How are you? I have a question about what do we have to do on Mirandese wikipedia to get our Wikipedia page ( 'cause we've finished all vital articles and we have translated the interface. Do we need something else? Thanks a lot for your help. Best regards from Chabi

Hello Chabi. If you can maintain the current test project activity over April, it should be ready for approval. Thanks for your contributions. :) —Pathoschild 06:54:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Reopen sc.wiktionary

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Hello Pathoschild, please can you tell me if the sardinian wiktionary can reopen (without request for new project)? Thank you in advance --Marzedu 13:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello Marzedu. No, wikis are not normally reopened without a new proposal. It is treated the same way as a proposal to create a new wiki under the language proposal policy. —Pathoschild 06:50:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Global bot flag request for TXiKiBoT

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Hello. Thanks for your advice. I have already done my request for a global bot flag here in meta-wiki. TXiKi 11:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


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Hello Pathoschild, I'd like to know if debates like [1] and [2] could be closed and how. Those pages have been opened from months and I don't know how to do with them. I think they have been opened enough time. Thanks for your help. —Dferg (talk) 17:06, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Btw, I've removed in error the +A flag from my account in #cvn-wp-es. Would you mind reasign me the flag again? (+vVotrifA). Thanks and sorry for the off topic. —Dferg (talk) 22:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello Dferg. There is no formal process for closing a wiki closure request; anyone is free to propose doing so on the request page.
I've already fixed your access in the channel. —Pathoschild 04:32:18, 06 April 2009 (UTC)


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Hello Pathoschild,

I've added two new parameters to this template, mainly because they would have been of use in the recent licensing update documentation and because I can see them being of potential use elsewhere. As you created the template, I thought I'd inform you and allow you to make corrections/remove them if you deem it necessary (though they do seem of potential use). The diff is here. Best, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 06:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Flood flag

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I added it for you.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 03:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

About global bots on it.wikisource

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Hello OrbiliusMagister. You listed this wiki as allowing both global bots and automatic approval, and using the standard bot policy. The local discussion seems to be about global bots only, though. Should this wiki be listed under the global-bots-only section instead?

Also, is Project:Bar the appropriate place to request a local bot flag? Do you have a local bot policy? —Pathoschild 22:59:29, 10 aprile 2009 (UTC)

First sentence... right! I'll list correctly this wiki on meta.
Second sentence... right until this afternoon. I added an appropriate page to post such requests. Our village pump has been used informally until recently. - εΔω 01:09, 11 apr 2009 (CEST)
An Italian translation of m:Bot policy is welcome; it is already available in eight languages.
I redirected Project:Bot policy to the page you created; this is a standard redirect used by Meta pages and bot operators. I also created a draft request page; it's the same as the one you made, but with a different format that I think is more readable. If you like it, feel free to use it.
Pathoschild 00:28:10, 11 aprile 2009 (UTC)
Huh! Who am I, humble 'crat, to reject a Steward's word? I just copied a layout already adopted on Wikipedia, Wikiquote, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, Wiktionary, but I'll transfer yours at once. - εΔω 07:53, 11 apr 2009 (CEST)

I replied on it.source about your enquiry.

You are right about a more serious approach for bot policies. I'll start a discussion about automatically approval bots. It'll be an occasion to implement correctly the standard bot policy proposed here on meta. It'd be better if that page could be translated int Italian... Thanks for your kind attention - εΔω 23:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Metaproject on open proxys

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Hello Pathoschild. I'm interested in colaborate on WM:OP and I'd like to apply for verified user. I think I have a basic knowledge about open proxys and anonimysing networks and I feel I can help on this project. ATM I will not be very active for personal issues but I hope to return to full activity soon. If you have questions, please let me know. Thanks for your time. Kind regards, —Dferg (talk) 19:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. That project is largely dead at the moment; maybe you can help revive it. —Pathoschild 23:10:51, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Delete it:Italia

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Can you delete w:it:Italia, please? We are cleaning up history from old vandalism but we got "This page has a large edit history, over 5,000 revisions....". According to this is not true. Thnk you --Melos 22:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 22:51:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Global bots on ml.wikipedia and ml.wiktionary

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Global bots are now permitted on ml.wikipedia and ml.wiktionary. Kindly update the wiki setting. --Jacob 02:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Since step 3 of the process for requesting Global bot permission enabling insists on adding wiki name to Global bot table, global bot operators who don't have a bot flag on have already started editing on wiki. We don't want to block these bots. It will hence be very helpful if you could enable global bot permission on and ml.wikt soon.. --Jacob 22:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello Jacob. Is it correct that the two wikis allow global bots, but otherwise do not implement the standard bot policy? I've enabled global bots on both wikis. —Pathoschild 05:28:23, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! yes we allow global bots, but don't approve other terms in the standard bot policy like AAA. --Jacob 21:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Global bots on suwiki

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It looks like added itself to the list of wikis that allow global bots but it doesn't appear to be implemented yet. Could you take care of that? -Djsasso 15:59, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 03:14:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Standard bot policy - ka.wikiquote

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La communauté de ka.wikiquote a accepté la "standard bot policy", cfr ici. Est-ce que tu pourrais te charger de la suite de l'implémentation ? Je ne sais pas trop ce qu'il faut faire, même après avoir lu Bot policy/Implementation. :-)


chtit_draco talk page 16:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Bonjour Chtit draco. Je préfère attendre un peu plus long, puisque Rastrelli F (seul sysop actif) n'a pas encore laissé son opinion. J'ai ajouté la discussion au liste Bot_policy/Implementation#Proposed_implementation. —Pathoschild 06:15:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
My fault. I told Rastrelli he wouldn't have to bother endorsing it as it would be accepted naturally. If needed, I can ask him to explicitely support it. Cheers, Malafaya 14:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
P.S. and off-topic: Can you check the request for Mirandese Wikipedia? I believe it already fulfills all requirements... Malafaya 14:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
This was done at some point. —Pathoschild 22:49:14, 07 September 2009 (UTC)

Voting eligibility tool

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Hi. A question has come up about vote checking for the final of the Commons POTY. Would you mind having a look here please: Commons:Commons talk:Picture of the Year/2008/Voting#About tool server output ? Many thanks. --MichaelMaggs 10:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Updated. —Pathoschild 20:01:32, 02 May 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy on stqwiki

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It looks like stq.wikipedia is on the list of places allowing global bots, but it does not appear to be activated. Would you be able to take care of that? -Djsasso 17:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 20:34:20, 06 May 2009 (UTC)

babel pleonasm

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Dear Pathoschild,

I found Gu redirecting to Template:User_language/Gu, which is a copy of Template:User_language/gu. On first thought I wanted to turn the first two into redirects to the third, but maybe they are just to be deleted, then I thought that you surely know what all those links are about. If I'm distracting you from more important tasks I beg yuor pardon: just have a look at it:s:Wikisource:Template:Utente/doc where I added some subpages that can be imported here. - εΔω 17:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I merged the redundant pages and deleted the redirects, and imported the so, st, and wuu subpages. I did not import the ur, ug, tpi, to, tk, ti, tg, ta, su, and av, because they are missing some translations; do you know local users who could finish the translations? —Pathoschild 19:05:44, 09 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm accomplishing one task at a time. As a first step I'm gradually converting to "meta" format templates whose 1-2-3-N levels I already have (synoptic page here), I'll tell you when I'm done. As a second step I'll review the incomplete ones in order to try to complete them. This is going to be a long process. - εΔω 19:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Input appreciated

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Seeing that you've dealt with global ... well, everything previously, I'd really appreciate your input here: Meta:Babel#Creating a new global policy. Cheers. --MZMcBride 17:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

bot policy implementation

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More wikis, that adopted implementation:

Thank you, Rubin16 07:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

These were done at some point. —Pathoschild 23:06:39, 07 September 2009 (UTC)

AJAX sysop $ conflict

I noticed AJAX sysop is using a JavaScript framework, in which variable $ is used. However, I'm using jQuery, which also uses variable $ (as a short cut to jQuery function). Can you help to avoid this conflict? (But I'm not sure how...) --Liangent 12:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello Liangent. The next version of AJAX sysop will be using jQuery. —Pathoschild 19:24:22, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

+ global bots

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It says that global bots are allowed in, but wikilist doesn't contain it. Can you change this? Rubin16 11:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC) had no objections to the policy, too Rubin16 11:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
These were done at some point. —Pathoschild 23:08:47, 07 September 2009 (UTC)

Mari Wikipedia in Incubator

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Please, take a look at Talk:Language_committee#Requests for approval Meadow Mari Wikipedia. Nobody has answered yet on my last post week ago. --Сай 09:05, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi there! I am glad to inform you, Language committee, that now Mari Wikipedia Incubator commutity has three active not-grayed out editors for last three monthes (look at statistics). So, the last requirement is meet now.
Also I want to add, that there will be a big conference in July, 10. There would be around 150 young mari. I will take part in this conference and intend to talk about Mari Wikipedia to involve more people to contribute. There are more chances that new participants will contribute to Wikipedia than to Incubator. So, I am asking you to consider approval of Mari Wikipedia before the start of conference(before July, 10). As for me, I have some technical skills. I can help you, for example in creating subdomain or in moving pages, etc. And of cource, if you think that mari wikipedia don't have something for final approval, please, write it here immediatly, so we can fix and solve all the problems before July 10.
Please, post your answer here --Сай 05:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
This request was approved at some point. —Pathoschild 23:19:27, 07 September 2009 (UTC)

again bot policy

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no objections on

  • tk.wikipedia
  • zh-min-nan.wikipedia
  • jv.wikipedia

And I am not sure about - is it correct to place the proposal on user's (crat's) talkpage ? Rubin16 19:16, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Some more:
  • is.wikipedia
  • ja.wikipedia decided to allow global bots without bot policy been implemented
Rubin16 09:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
These were done at some point. —Pathoschild 23:29:09, 07 September 2009 (UTC)

Script to prevent account creation by default

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Hello Pathoschild,

Do you know if there is some script to tick by default the "prevent account creation" in the block form?. I saw that in meta it is ticked always (with autoblock enabled and allow this user to edit own talk page) but not in -es (only "block the user's IP and allow this user to use the talk page") In the 99% of the cases I block account creation from accounts and it is annoyant to tick this box everytime I block an IP or an user. Thanks for your help, —Dferg (talk) 15:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Try this:
## Check 'Prevent account creation' by default on block form
  function() {
    document.getElementById('wpCreateAccount').checked = true;
Pathoschild 03:50:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, now it is checked by default :) Thanks! —Dferg (talk) 09:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Regex menu framework: append once?

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You have new message at en.wikisource... =)

Besides that, I would like to know about the following piece of code from Regex menu framework.js:

	// append mode
	if(mode=='append' && editreason.value.match(/[^\s]/)) {
		editreason.value = editreason.value+', '+reason;

It seems interesting to add the new reason only if it was not added in the current edit session (in 'editreason.value'). This way the summary will not have duplicated text. What do you think? Helder 16:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Done, there is a new appendonce mode. (Thanks for poking me on IRC about it.) —Pathoschild 21:10:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello! I think the appendonce is not working... It seems to be necessary to change two lines from place, because the new reason is supposed to be appended after ', ' if the old summary has anything else than spaces. What do you think? Have a good weekend! =D Helder 16:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed. —Pathoschild 19:55:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

We still have a problem in the appendonce: the line if(mode=='append' && editreason.value.match(/[^\s]/)) { should be else if(mode=='append' && editreason.value.match(/[^\s]/)) {, or even a switch on "mode". This way the last part will be executed only if "mode" is other than appendonce. Helder 19:58, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

usability wiki

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There is a request on Talk:Main Page on the usability wiki to change the incorrect "Stanton Foundation" on the wiki's Main Page to "Ruth and Frank Stanton Fund". As the request has been there for two months with no attention, I am spamming this to all administrators in the hope someone sees it. Gurch 14:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I can find no reliable sources that links the Ruth and Frank Stanton Fund to the grant the Wikimedia Foundation received. —Pathoschild 20:06:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


--George Mel 13:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


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Hello Pathoschild. Is this you?Anonymous DissidentTalk 15:00, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Anonymous Dissident. Thanks for letting me know; I've blocked the account. —Pathoschild 13:32:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello again. I'm glad to see that the situation was dealt with and the impostor expelled. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 16:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


Dear Pathoschild,

Prowling through a lot of wikis to gather and study babel templates I recently discovered that be.wikipedia took an almost literal inspiration from meta: see here.

Maybe could be added to the list of wikis using template:User language.

Bye. - εΔω 16:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I added it to the list. —Pathoschild 19:28:09, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Ajax sysop@eswikibooks

Hi Pathoschild. This is a friendly note to inform you that I have set your Ajax sysop script as a gadget in es.wikibooks. If they are some inconvenience, please let me know and I'll delete it. Best regards, —Dferg (talk) 16:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. There is no inconvenience. —Pathoschild 19:32:03, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Global blocking Thai IP addresses

pathoschild, you put up a global block on my IP address and others in Thailand. stewardship is great but this is abusive.The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 09:15, 3 August 2009.

Hello 58. Thank you for letting me know; I've removed the block. This IP was used alongside several proxies for crosswiki abuse. I checked for legitimate editors before blocking the series of IPs, but accidentally blocked this one despite matches. I apologize for the inconvenience. —Pathoschild 20:20:18, 03 August 2009 (UTC)


Hello Pathoschild, since you are an admin there, can you please detete this vandalism?. I've tryed to search some sort of {{delete}} template but it seems that they do not have such stuff there. Best regards, df|  08:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 12:51:44, 07 August 2009 (UTC)

Prekmurian Wikipedia

Hi. We try to make a new language proposal, but our en:Prekmurian dialect has no ISO code yet. What is the procedure? We also think it could pass other conditions. Thanks for help. --Janezdrilc 22:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Please see User_talk:Lar#Prekmurian Wikipedia (which is why Janezdrilc is here I suspect)... I would appreciate correction of the answers I gave there. :) ++Lar: t/c 00:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Counting Problem

Hello Pathoschild, we have article counting problem at newly normalised Punjabi Wikipedia. Please see this [3]. --Khalid Mahmood 15:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Ile sans fil...

... is it wise to mention such details this early? Until the page is much more fleshed out it comes up a little on the spammy side, I think. Unless you think that's a major selling point, I suppose.

— Coren (talk) / (en-wiki) 18:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello Coren. I do think that free wireless access throughout the city is a good selling point. Since it's a non-profit service, I don't think spamminess is a problem. —Pathoschild 19:22:09, 09 September 2009 (UTC)
Good point. It just looked funny, I guess, because the bid is still skeletal so it was a bit disproportionate. I'll be working to flesh this out over the following weeks. Incidental plug: we need WMF Quebec.  :-) — Coren (talk) / (en-wiki) 19:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Merci de m'aider!!!

J'ai pris une tonne de photos de Montréal et une autre tonne de photos s'en viennent! --Mixwell 21:18, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Did you seen my request. Best regards. Bokim -- 17:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

El por que del bloqueo en

Se te bloquea por no haber informado sobre las ediciones y creaciones de archivos javascript y css en usuarios que no eres tu. Si tienes alguna duda ponte en contacto en [es:q:user:davidmartindel].

Please tell me that the edit in page of user diferent and I can revert you block in wikiquote spanish

I'm sorry if I caused trouble but it is very importants edits:$ --Davidmartindel 14:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello David. You added this message to my talk page and then removed it. Do you still object to creating user pages when these users request it? If so, I will stop doing it on this wiki and tell them to do it themselves on the Spanish Wikiquote. —Pathoschild 18:03:53, 12 septiembre 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I delete the comment from your page because I saw the topic of users request.. later that I put the comment in this page....
I am sorry because my english is very bad ..--Davidmartindel 01:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
That is okay, thank you for clarifying. :) —Pathoschild 01:34:14, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Ajax Sysop - Suggestion


When you have some time, could you try to add the pages shown at "what links here" to the deletion form?

Thanks in advance! Helder 21:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I added it to the wishlist for the next version. —Pathoschild 19:37:16, 04 March 2010 (UTC)



The problem I had yesterday with TemplateScript was because of a Gadget with the script w:en:user:js/ajaxPreview. They seems to be incompatible one with each other... Helder 14:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Reblocking locked accounts

Occasionally I see some re-blocks from you in ru.wp, however so far I was under impression that locked accounts cannot be used anymore, so they don't need to be blocked or re-blocked locally. -AlexSm 03:50, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello AlexSm. The blocks are made by a bot that block/hides accounts if they are globally hidden, and checks for unreverted edits. This prevents hidden names from appearing in logs and user lists, and ensures there's no forgotten vandalism.
However, the bot does not hide an account if it has edits (to avoid mangling edit histories), so this results in a regular reblock if the user is already blocked. If this is an issue, I could change the code so that it does not reblock if the local account has edits and is already indefinitely blocked (although it would run much slower due to the need for an additional API query).Pathoschild 04:11:46, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
The bot now reblocks only if necessary for an indefinite block and hiding. —Pathoschild 08:02:22, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. I do not understand all the details about global hiding, my main concern was when highly offensive user names (already locally blocked and globally locked a year ago) suddenly appeared in Recent Changes again. I also hope the changes in the bot will prevent totally unnecessary cross-projects blocks like this one. -AlexSm 14:29, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy@vi.wikisource

A week has passed and no one oppose at s:vi:Thảo luận:Trang Chính. Please update its policy status in Meta. Thank you. Tân (talk) 12:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

This has since been done. —Pathoschild 19:39:42, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Galician Wikipedia

Hello Pathoschild. Thanks for your help. Best regards. --Prevert 15:49, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Pathoschild, thanks for your work! --Xabier Cid 16:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy@bswikiquote

As the only active sysop, i would like to implement standard bot policy on bs.wikiquote. The only ´crat is not active and it will be easier as to make a request every time when someone need a bot flag. Can you make it without great procedure or give me the right link to make a request? THX --Seha 18:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello Amir. It's been listed at Bot policy/Implementation, so it will be enabled on bswikiquote if there are no objects about two weeks after it was proposed. Thanks. —Pathoschild 20:28:01, 04 October 2009 (UTC)
OK THX! --Seha 20:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion of tool


On Wu wikipedia the bot flag policy is to remove flag of inactive bots. That means bots that didn't edit since one year.

I know that many Wikipedia do that, but don't know a tool to simply check bots actions.

I think that you could add bot as checked flag by stewardry (or create a new tool just for bots). That would be a great tool.

What do you think about it ?

--Hercule 09:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello Hercule. I added a 'bot' option to stewardry. —Pathoschild 21:59:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Super, merci beaucoup ! --Hercule 19:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy implementation

What does this mean? Do you want yourself (or a steward) to check all discussion pages and you don't trust a local sysop enough to let him mark certain actions as allowed and certain local pages as mantained, or you only want the Current implementation section to contain only wiki already included in the WikiSet (i.e. you simply have incorrectly reverted my edit), or what else? Thank you, Nemo 13:03, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello Nemo. The 'Current implementation' section only contains wikis that are in the wikiset; otherwise there would be no way to know which wikis need to be added. I do want to check each wiki myself before implementing, to do tasks like adding the 'Project:Bot policy' redirect, marking fulfilled requests, making sure the redirect is correct and the header is on the correct page, and the updating the request page.
I appreciate your help; feel free to mark wikis as maintained, but please don't move wikis into 'Current implementation' until they have been implemented. —Pathoschild 21:35:28, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, looks like I made some errors, but now I have checked all remaining wikis and corrected two more errors. There are no more pending bot flag requests and no update is needed. Please note that I had to use the local village pump page, or the community portal when used as a village pump, or the community portal talk when the community portal existed and was used for another purpose, or the main page talk when community portal didn't exist.
Sorry for the misuse of the "current implementation" section; I thought that your toolserver script was the only one used for that purpose (also for Template:Bot policy, now). --Nemo 12:35, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

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Thank you for your rapid action against vandalism in Greek Wikipedia. Regarding your request, it has been fixed by other users. --Lemur12 11:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


Hey Jesse,

TemplateScript does not seem to be working on Google Chrome. The issue was brought to my attention by a fellow Wikimedian, who has been using my .js files for 2.5 years. I am a Firefox guy myself, so I installed Chrome to verify. Sadly, it turned out to be true.

He says that the templates appear maybe once in ten times. I, on the other hand, have been using it for 20 minutes now, and no luck so far!

I was wondering if you were aware of such a problem, or if it was actually a problem rather than a silly mistake on our end.

Looking forward to hearing from you.


Vito Genovese 06:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Vito. TemplateScript will be obsoleted by the next version of the regex menu framework, which is already Chrome-compatible. —Pathoschild 19:42:52, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

2009 en.wikipedia Arbitration Committee Elections

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Hi Pathoschild! I notice that your eligibility tool was used last year for the 2008 election - could we add 2009 as well? The requirements are the same, just the year has changed - 150 mainspace edits on or before 23:59 UTC on 1 November 2009. Does your tool check deleted edits as well? In years past, someone wishing to count deleted edits to meet the 150 threshold had to bug an admin - but if your tool handles that, that's even better! In any event, thanks in advance! Ultraexactzz Talk 19:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello Ultraexactzz. I added the 2009 elections, though it doesn't check deleted edits. I'll add deleted edits when I can think of an efficient way to get them (they're stored in a 24.5 million-record table with no indexes). —Pathoschild 01:10:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! Deleted edits aren't usually an issue; if an editor's deleted edits would put them over 150, they'll post at the talk page asking for clarification, we'll double-check, and everything is fine. The coding challenge is probably worthwhile for other applications, but no need to spend a lot of time on it over this - the cases where it would apply are few. Again, many thanks! Ultraexactzz Talk 17:03, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Similar issue. Can you bump the default to 2009? Leaving it at 2008 just raises queries on the competence of the user - like me! Cheers. 16:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello 92. The default event is already the 2009 election; could you explain what you mean? —Pathoschild 19:46:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
When I execute the procedure from the link on this page [4] is shows 2008 in the events box. 15:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I corrected the links to point to the 2009 election. —Pathoschild 17:10:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Cheers. 20:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC) (User:Leaky Caldron on WP.)

Speedy deletions at hy.wikiquote

Hi Pathoschild, when you get a chance, could you please visit q:hy:Կատեգորիա:Արագ ջնջման թեկնածուներ category in Armenian Wikiquote and delete everything there? It's the category for items listed for speedy deletion, however, the only admin has been away for a while, and these pages have piled up. Thanks a lot, Chaojoker 16:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

This has since been done. —Pathoschild 19:43:17, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Unblocked vandals on pswiki

Mr . Pathoschild Hello! I recently blocked some interrupters to avoid Vandalism , so I noticed that you have replaced them into PS.WIKI. If you could tell me why do you support them ? and would also love to be guided upon reporting them to the main administrators. either you or above you. with regards. unsigned by on 19:53, 5 November 2009.

Hello 84. Could you specify which users you are referring to? —Pathoschild 20:15:17, 05 November 2009 (UTC)

Global Bots on pt.wikinews

Hey Pathos! Please add pt.wikinews on Special:EditWikiSets/2, global bots have the permission for editing, only local bots needs a request for a local bureaucrat  . Thanks @lestaty discuţie 23:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Good news

Dear Pathoschild,

after some months I spent another trip through many project looking for babeltemplates and here are the results: some of them can be imported here and after some minor editing they'll be fully available.

The most recent ones (from this summer onward) have all five levels from -0 to -N and are fetched and checked from their home wikis. - εΔω 20:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Regex Framework


Could you make a little update in the code of the function rfmenu from the Framework?

The change would consist of this:

  • The class "p-body" should be replaced by "pBody";
  • Adding the class "portal" instead of "portlet" when the skin is "vector";
  • Adding the class "body" instead of "pBody" when the skin is "vector"

This should make the menu to be more consistent with the others in the skin vector. Thank you!!! =D Helder 17:32, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello Helder. The script is primarily written for Monobook, so it matches the conventions for that skin. The next version will be more flexible. —Pathoschild 19:51:03, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Decision for Closure of Simple English Wikiquote

A month has passed since the project was nominated for closure by Anonymous Dissident. The consensus is leaning largely in favor to close, 43 support - 9 oppose. I think a steward or someone in charge should make a final decision regarding the matter. --§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 11:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

There is no standardized process for closure requests, nor is anyone in charge. I suggest you contact Anonymous Dissident, who has shown an interest in shepherding the request through. —Pathoschild 05:17:11, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Would it not be a conflict of interest for Anonymous Dissident to close it? There should be some sort of procedure for closing projects, because at the moment some go on and on for months. Majorly talk 13:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Then who should decide on the fate of closing the nominated project? --§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 23:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I think any trusted layperson who hasn't voted on it. But, I have no idea how projects actually get closed. Perhaps a bug request is made? Majorly talk 00:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Someone could ask the person who successfully closed the last nominated project. I don't know who. --§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 00:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I think Dferg knows how to close projects. To close a project, a bug request is needed. --§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 01:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


Merci, 82. Pour une réponse plus immédiate, s'il-vous-plaît rapportez de tels informations sur le canal IRC des stewards, soit #wikimedia-stewards (il y a un client sur-ligne). —Pathoschild 05:15:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Alas, poor me ..

Sorry, i was being stupid. Thank you for your help. -- 17:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

You can add in

to the statistican on ?? SergeyJ 08:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello SergeyJ. The statisics on are generated automatically by the software, and cannot be changed based on edits to a different wiki. —Pathoschild 09:57:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Has not understood, for example, for de.wikiversity it probably [5] Why too most it is impossible for ru.wikiversity? And you likely have not understood me. To add on, but it is simple in the list there is not present ruwikiversity_p. SergeyJ 02:07, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
The tool can show statistics for ruwikiversity or betawikiversity, but cannot combine them. —Pathoschild 19:56:14, 04 March 2010 (UTC)


I was reading w:Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Guide/Ajax and was wondering wether or not there is an ajax framework work. you marked your one as obsolete. specificly, i need to know to use ajax to delete and block using also the various options (duration, auto-block, anon only, etc). perhaps you are femiliar with a script that does that? Yonidebest 01:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I found what I needed. Thanks anyways, Yonidebest 15:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi! If possible, make this check quickly. Thanks (for everything ;). --Kaganer 15:14, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. What about mw:User:Dorkin Maxim (and my steward request)? No mathes? --Kaganer 12:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

What's going on?

I am new here, what is going on. - TheChairmanDances

Hello TheChairmanDances. This is Meta, a central coordinating wiki for the Wikimedia Foundation. This wiki contains central events like the steward elections and vote to create global sysops, crosswiki request pages like Steward requests and Spam blacklist, and global policies like the Oversight and Checkuser policies. This is usually not a good wiki for newcomers to start with; you might have more interest in Wikisource or Wikipedia. —Pathoschild 21:05:43, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Re. translation of 2010 steward election mechanism

Dear Pathoschild,

I'm flattered by your thanksgiving. If I could grant more avalaibility you surely would see my signature more often. Anyway, I come here two-three times a week for many reasons, and if I see something that I can do quickly without shame (how I'd like to have a better grasp of English language!) i'm bold :-) - εΔω 16:12, 17 January 2010 (UTC)


On the script for the Stewards autocheck, when you enter your username ir says you must give your full name by February 1, 2009, not 2010. The MP 08:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you for reporting it. —Pathoschild 01:58:14, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Paéz, Paez, Nasa or Nasa-yuwe

Incredibly i found that the language of Paeces, Nasa or Paez Indians is not in the database. They inhabit most of Cauca province in Colombia. I easily found Guambiano, Puinave or Kurripaco, languages not easy for westerners or, as the 2 latter, with few contact with Spanish speaking people. Guambiano and Paez had been neighbors since ancient history. They are easily known in the national media, in the academy, politics, etc., etc. Why it doesn't had a code?? Please see:

Hello 201. The ISO639 database contains codes listed in the ISO 639 1–3 standards. To propose the addition of an ISO 639 code, see the ISO 639-3 Registration Authority. They are currently accepting change proposals for their 2010 cycle. —Pathoschild 07:36:06, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


Hello sir! I requesting here i requesting global account. Thank you. --Sirty 12:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Need help, my User page has been edited several times with wrong info

Someone who really hates me, I guess, has edited several times my User page...according the history is User: i'm having a real issue with my user page: the lines: " I'm carrying the AIDS virus, and God has never left me. And I have the support of my family, friends and my gay partner Ronald. Es cierto lo del sida?" are all untrue and have been posted by this person that according to the Geolocate is from the same country I am...and who's been doing the same thing for 3 times in my profile. I need assitance from an admin with a block on that IP ASAP. From my own user I'm eliminating those lines but it would be good if you take a look at the history page. Thanks. -- 05:19, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

You can report this problem to w:Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. —Pathoschild 20:04:31, 04 March 2010 (UTC)


Hi, Pathoschild.
I don't know who's online, so I've posted my message to Wutsje [6].
Bambifan is active again. We need to block that IP range. I've blocked that account indefinitely, since he's destructive. Kubura 02:53, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

His newest account has been globally locked. :) --Bsadowski1 02:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Suspected open proxy

Recently, I have been continously vandaled (cursed) by some IPs, which change gradually (see my meta talk page, Talk:Stewards/elections 2010/Guidelines/vi and en:User talk:Vinhtantran histories). I suspect that someone is using open proxy to change his/her IP. How or where can request a check in Meta and request a block on changing IP like that? Thank you. Tân (talk) 01:09, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Vinhtantran. You can try asking in the #wikimedia-stewardsconnect or #wikipedia-enconnect IRC channels; I see you are on IRC already. —Pathoschild 01:13:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Bambifan is active again

See [7]. Kubura 01:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC) This IP also [8]. Kubura 01:38, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

That IP edited in bad Croatian language [9]. According to interest and time proximity of edits of that IP and CollectonianisaDumbo, it seems that it's Bambifan. Kubura 01:44, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

This IP [10] edited that same article 2 hours ago. [11]. I think it's time for /16. Kubura 01:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for reporting these. I blocked them accordingly. —Pathoschild 01:56:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion request

I request you to delete my user page [12] and [13] with the whole story, because I do not want a user page files should private information. Thank you immediately. --Žiedas 17:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

DerHexer deleted the pages. —Pathoschild 17:45:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Bambi again

Please see
(razl) (pov) . . N! Dumbo‎; 02:05 . . (+707) . . (Razgovor | blokiraj) (Nova stranica: ar:دمبو bg:Дъмбо ca:Dumbo cs:Dumbo cy:Dumbo da:Dumbo de:Dumbo et:Dumbo (film) es:Dumbo eo:Dumbo fr:Dumbo (film, 1941) ga:Dumbo...)
That's this edit [14] from IP Kubura 02:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I've deleted that edit. Kubura 02:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again. They only have one edit so far; please drop a note in the #wikimedia-stewardsconnect IRC channel (web interface) if they continue. —Pathoschild 03:00:24, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Bot policy on an.wiktionary

Hi, Pathoschild.

This seems to have been forgotten: . It's already been nearly a year :). Best regards, Malafaya 23:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 20:04:31, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

I thank you for being an invaluable asset as a Steward with your time and dedication to the projects. You have been entered as a special mention for February 2010 in my new Steward Recognition Project for your invaluable work. Thank you for all you do. Ottava Rima 02:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Global rollback removal

If you get the opportunity, may I request a reversal of the removal of global rollback please? In the event that I either cease functioning as steward or at some point in time step down from the position, I'd still like the option of using GR as part of my CVN/SWMT duties. Thanks! :) Kylu 20:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

"In the event that I either cease functioning as steward or at some point in time step down from the position" Noooooo! Deny this request! She can't leave! She is a Steward slave forever and she has to accept it! :) Ottava Rima 23:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes it feels like it, Ottava. Kylu 04:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Done. (This should not be construed in any way, shape, or form as a release from bondage.) —Pathoschild 04:49:58, 01 March 2010 (UTC)

SUL question

Hi Pathoschild. Is there a way that I can configure my settings or something to allow me to edit one project with one username and another project with another username at the same time without having to continuously log in and out? Specifically, I use this username for the Simple English Wikipedia, but want to use another username for the English Wikipedia, but if I'm logged in as this username on Simple English, I can't be logged in on English with another username. Thanks, Lauryn Ashby (d) 16:24, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello Lauryn. You cannot do this with global accounts, which enforce one global user name. One way around this is to use different browsers for different sessions. —Pathoschild 16:43:01, 01 March 2010 (UTC)
It was worth a shot, thank you for the quick response. I actually had not thought of using different browsers, so that is something that I will definitely try. Thank you again. Yours, Lauryn Ashby (d) 16:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. —Pathoschild 16:48:55, 01 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: citation in confirmation summary

Hi Pathoschild,

No, that doesn't matter to me :) I can be cited whether it's necessary.

Elfix 09:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Elfix. Thank you. —Pathoschild 18:57:14, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Block of

I'm responding to an {{unblock}} request from the IP address, which you globally blocked. I would like to get the background of this, in order to decide how to handle it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello Od Mishehu. is registered to RapidSwitch Ltd., a web hosting company. IPs in this range (including itself) have been used for crosswiki abuse by editing through web proxies to circumvent IP blocks. Web hosts are blocked on sight for this reason. —Pathoschild 18:55:10, 04 March 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for summarizing all the confirmations. --Erwin 18:43, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


User talk:

This IP was caught in an autoblock you threw. Given that the person was blocked for cross-wiki abuse, I'm holding off on unblocking until you weigh in. Blueboy96 18:55, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello Blueboy96. Feel free to accept such local requests; this will only affect en-Wikipedia, which has enough administrators to handle any resulting disruption. This particular block was targeted at unregistered abuse, so any accounts affected are probably collateral damage. —Pathoschild 01:36:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

<ref> templates for list-defined references

Hi Pathoschild. I notice that like some others, including me until now, you have utilsed the ((r)) template to achieve List-defined references.

Some technical issues have recently been highlighted relating to the use of the ((r)) template, that neither I nor others with whom I've had discussions, were aware of until now. While we have all been implementing the ((r)) template in good-faith, it turns out that it poses some technical problems for bots and scripts, causing some of them to not work properly.

It has been pointed out that list-defined references can also be achieved using <ref name=></ref> templates, which don't cause any difficulties for bots and scripts. I think this is both a fair point, and the easiest solution.

I don't know about you, but I didn't envisage technical problems caused by the use of the ((r)) template. My own purpose was simply to declutter article text and make it easier to edit the text and the references. This is the same for those with whom I had some considerable discussion, as we explored ways of doing this, before settling on what we now know are called list-defined references.

Because my introduction to list-defined references was via the ((r)) template, and the current technical issues had not yet surfaced, I naturally assumed that the ((r)) template was the way one achieved list-defined references. I did come to realise that the Harvard templates could also serve the purpose of decluttering articles and grouping the references at the bottom. But the Harvard templates, while useful in some contexts, can impose a degree of cumbersomeness over and above that of the list-defined reference method, meaning the latter is a more streamlined method.

Given my newly acquired awareness that ((r)) templates pose technical difficulties, whereas the pre-existing <ref> templates do the job just as easily, but don't cause technical difficulties, I have no difficulty acknowledging that and amending the ((r)) templates to <ref> templates. My reason of course is that I was not in the business of promoting any particular template, but using a suitable Wikitext to achieve the goal of creating list-defined references in some articles, insofar as list-defined references are a benefit to those articles and seen as a benefit.

The irony in all this is that it was our naive use of the ((r)) template which brought to the fore some technical issues which hitherto weren't salient. I have now updated a number of articles with the <ref> templates, and if you like, I would be quite happy to do the same with articles which you've worked on. I think it far more prudent to do that, than to cause unnecessary headaches for others, with the flow-on effect of derailling our own contributions. Regards Wotnow (talk) 04:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Wotnow. The {{r}} template is very easy to automatically parse; those bots should be adjusted to recognize the template, rather than clutter the text. —Pathoschild 05:19:17, 05 February 2010 (UTC)
Cheers Pathoschild. There is currently some question about that in an RFC at Village pump. Having no expertise in programming myself, and no familiarity with bots at present, I have no opinion on the technical aspects, other than this: If others say there are technical issues arising from the ((r)) template, my own preference is to minimise my own contribution to such problems, and to any arguments about them, especially since there is an alternative that has not caused any controversy. Hence my actions in updating articles I've worked on, and making my offer, because I was intending to implement list-defined references, rather than cause problems. Discussion on the use of ((r)) templates doubtless needs to occur, but I think it best not to be at loggerheads if possible. Regards Wotnow (talk) 09:48, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:R

30pxTemplate:R has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. iBen 19:03, 14 February 2010 (UTC)



Hello Anonymous Dissident. Typically only the main page of a work should be categorized, to make categories more useful. All subpages are automatically placed by {{header}} into Category:Subpages. —Pathoschild 06:53:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

...unless the chapter should be in a category that does not apply to the work as a whole. For example Flora Australiensis/Volume V/CIV. Proteaceae should certainly be in Category:Proteaceae, but it ought not be in Category:Natural history of Australia, because the entire work should be put in there all at once. Hesperian 10:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I think that makes sense, really. I'll change it momentarily. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 20:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey Pathoschild, thank you for informing me about the correct practice when it comes to subpage categorisation. I've proceeded to remove the categories from the Illiad and Odyssey books. Best —Anonymous DissidentTalk 14:30, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks for removing them. —Pathoschild 22:21:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Cross-namespace redirects

Hello Pathoschild. User:Eclecticology has questioned your 2006 implementation of the policy or guideline discouraging cross-namespace redirects at WS:S#Allowing cross-namespace redirects. Perhaps you could shed some light? Best, —Anonymous DissidentTalk 13:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Hard-coded font faces

Hello, on the topic of hard-coded font faces, I've started a discussion at Scriptorium. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

{{DGRA}} header template

Gday. We talked recently about the standardisation of built header templates with prime part of discussion being {{DNB00}}. I have also stumbled over {{DGRA}} and wondered on whether this should just be replaced by a standard header, or whether it is salvageable. Thx. -- billinghurst (talk) 05:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

So long as the parameters are the same (which they appear to be, despite a comment that it requires multiple previous/next), I think it should be deprecated and replaced with {{header}}, then deleted. Jude (talk) 11:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Replaced the several relevant pages with {{header}} and template deleted. -- billinghurst (talk) 12:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
I converted {{DNB00}} into a wrapper for {{header}}, and plopped it into Category:Specific navigation templates. —Pathoschild 18:42:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Bonzer. Thx. -- 22:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


Hi! I'm just learning how to use regex (thanks for the Regex menu framework =D), but I've noticed you haven't added the <source> tag among the exception patterns at User:Pathoschild/standardise.js:

	/* exception pattern */
	var pattern = '<(nowiki|poem|pre)[^>]*>[\\s\\S]*?<\\/\\1>'; // double-escaping needed for RegExp()

Is it ok? Or should it be added? Helder (talk) 23:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I added it to the exception list. Thanks for the suggestion. :) —Pathoschild 12:46:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back

You have been missed! Hope that your break was worthwhile and fulfilling. :-) billinghurst (talk) 12:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but I won't be editing much for a while; I just check my watchlist regularly. :) —Pathoschild 12:40:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Spoilsport. :-/ billinghurst (talk)

See new header template

Gday P/c. When you have the chance (not urgent) would you mind running your eye over the template {{DEL-begin}} and see whether it meets the criteria to equate with {{header}}. Once you give it the all clear, I will add it to our tag filters so it doesn't show up there. Thx. -- billinghurst (talk) 12:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

It's fine. —Pathoschild 20:24:04, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Please see User talk:John Vandenberg#I have lightly fubar.27d.2C need advice

John says that you have experience in cleaning up history fubars. If you have the time to have a look at this discussion, then that would be great. Thx. -- billinghurst (talk) 15:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Template:Para 7 revisions
  • Template:Documentation 122 revisions
  • Template:Documentation/docname 9 revisions
  • Template:Documentation subpage 113 revisions
  • Template:Para/doc 19 revisions
  • Template:Pp-meta 80 revisions
  • Template:Pp-template 50 revisions
  • Template:Purge 30 revisions
  • Template:Tlx 66 revisions

billinghurst (talk) 23:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC) (from yesterday)

Oh, I had already left a message. I had forgotten. For reference, the files that were imported at at User talk:Billinghurst#Import log Fubar. Thanks for helping me out here. billinghurst (talk) 04:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I wrote a quick and dirty script to fix edit history merges; when run on the source's history page, it generates a script that will check/uncheck revisions when restoring the target's history. I'll paste it here for future reference, since I otherwise won't keep it around.
## Generate a unique revision signature
function gen_signature( li ) {
	/* extract data */
	var text = li.innerHTML; // parse string instead of DOM, much faster
	var date    = text.match( /\d+:\d+, \d+ [a-z]+ \d+/i )[0];
	var user    = text.match( /mw-userlink"[^>]*>([^<]+)<\/a>/i )[1];
	var comment = text.match( /comment"[^>]*>\((.+)\)<\/span>/i );
	/* flatten comment & strip HTML */
	if( comment )
		comment = comment[1].replace( /<[^>]+>([^\n]+?)<\/[^>]+>/ig, '$1' );
		comment = '';
	/* return signature */
	return date.replace( /[^a-z0-9]/ig, '' ) + '|' + user.replace( /[^a-z0-9-]/ig, '' ) + '|' + comment.replace( /[^a-z0-9_-]/ig, '' );

## On a history page, generate script to run on Special:Undelete
function parse_history() {
	/* get history */
	var form    = document.getElementById( 'mw-history-compare' );
	var history = form.getElementsByTagName( 'li' );
	/* generate signatures */
	var signatures = [];
	for( var i = 0, len = history.length; i < len; i++ )
		signatures.push( gen_signature(history[i]) );
	/* build script */
	var script = '/*######################\n## Generate a unique revision signature\n######################*/\n'
		+ gen_signature + '\n\n'
		+ '/*######################\n## Bad revision signatures \n######################*/\n'
		+ 'var signatures = \'#' + signatures.join( '#' ) + '#\'\n\n'
		+ '/*######################\n## Toggle revisions \n######################*/\n'
		+ uncheck_bad_revisions	+ '\n'
		+ 'uncheck_bad_revisions();'
	/* output */
	pre = document.getElementById( 'fix-fubar-history' );
	if( !pre ) {
		var div = document.createElement( 'div' );
		div.setAttribute( 'style', 'padding:1em; border:1px solid #F00;' );
		var header = document.createElement( 'h3' );
		header.appendChild( document.createTextNode('Fix fubar history') );
		var text = document.createTextNode( 'Delete the imported page, then run the script below on its undelete page to check good revisions and uncheck bad ones.' );

		var pre = document.createElement( 'pre' );
		pre.setAttribute( 'id', 'fix-fubar-history' );
		div.appendChild( header );
		div.appendChild( text );
		div.appendChild( pre );
		form.insertBefore( div, form.childNodes[0] );
	pre.innerHTML = script;

## On undelete page, check/uncheck revisions based on signatures
function uncheck_bad_revisions() {
	/* default reason */
	document.getElementById( 'wpComment' ).value = 'Fixed merged edit history';

	/* get history & offset to deletion log */
	var history = document.getElementById( 'undelete' ).getElementsByTagName( 'li' );
	var offset  = 0;
	while( history[offset].getAttribute('class') == 'mw-logline-delete' )
	/* (un)check boxes */
	var count = 0;
	for( var i = offset, len = history.length; i < len; i++ ) {
		if( signatures.indexOf('#' + gen_signature(history[i]) + '#') == -1 ) {
			history[i].getElementsByTagName('input')[0].checked = true;
			history[i].setAttribute( 'style', '' );
		else {
			history[i].getElementsByTagName('input')[0].checked = false;
			history[i].setAttribute( 'style', 'background:#FCC;' );
	alert( count + ' bad revisions.' );
Pathoschild 17:58:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks. Lifesaver! Is leaving me with the code representative of confidence or the challenge to fubar again? <eyeroll> billinghurst (talk) 22:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm curious about the script above... What do you mean by "fix edit history merges"? Helder (talk) 11:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment at MediaWiki talk:Usejs/Comment highlighting.js

I am clueless on what the file even does, so I will just alert you, and my job is done!-- billinghurst (talk) 00:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

|override_translator request for {{header}}

Man crawling across something broken and spiky.

I am trying to find someone who will be able to amend {{header}} so that it is able to carry the parameter | override_translator = ... where it basically doesn't try to wiki the contents of the field, and just takes the entered content, akin to |override_author in the same template. I cannot find any takers, and I have tried numerous people. I have looked at the file, however, the levels of nesting on #if and #ifeq statements, with pipes etc. is sending my brain around the twist, and it is not one that I want to just play with. Would you be able to help? Apologies for having to ask a busy person. -- billinghurst (talk) 15:13, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. It will use most text as-is, but it will still handle "?", "not mentioned", "unknown", and "wikisource" as special keywords; that can be changed easily enough if needed. —Pathoschild 18:31:54, 03 October 2009 (UTC)
Brilliant, those keywords are definitely still needed. /me does a little dance. -- billinghurst (talk) 22:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


Perhaps you would like to look at Help:Copyright tags#Automated_public_domain_licenses to upgrade your templates to combine US and automatically updated non-US copyright status over years.--Jusjih (talk) 03:39, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

That is an old experiment that was never developed further, so there's no need to update it. Thanks for letting me know. —Pathoschild 20:26:13, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

Another header needing alignment {{EAm06}}

Adding to your WHENEVER list, just come across another pseudo-header {{EAm06}} that could do with your magical alignment with {{header}}. Thx. billinghurst (talk) 23:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

and {{Collier 1701}} <shrug> billinghurst (talk)
Done, along with {{EB11}} and {{CAB03}}. —Pathoschild 02:30:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Again thanks!

Probably inelegant, however, 'tis functional Template:Active projects/var‎ and Template:Active projects/base. -- billinghurst (talk) 13:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

How to identify non-transcluded validated and proofread pages

Hi P/child. Trying to work out how we could look to identify pages in Page: namespace that are in Category:Proofread and Category:Validated however have not been transcluded into the main namespace, aka missed pages. Also something that we could look to identify on a regular basis so we could undertake the necessary maintenance work to transclude pages. Ideas? Thanks. billinghurst (talk) 11:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

If I may interject, the API supports an "embeddedin" query, which will give you a list of pages that transclude a given page. You can restrict the transclusion namespace, and you can limit it to only return one result, which suffices if all you want to know is whether there are any transclusions e.g.
It would be pretty easy to write a pywikipedia bot to walk a category and identify pages that aren't embedded in the main namespace. I'll even do it for you if you don't want to do it yourself. I could tweak a bot I have which does something roughly similar, so it is probably only half an hour's work.
Hesperian 13:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Sweet, I am a pro, I don't mind who I have to huggle (or their friends) to get the job done. It is the end result that is my aim. Thx. billinghurst (talk) 19:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Done. Running now. Shall we continue this discussion at User talk:Billinghurst#Non-transcluded validated pages. Hesperian 00:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

A whenever task

As discussed in IRC, I was looking to investigate whether we could look to give users the ability to easily switch between different presentation div classes, specifically

* <div class=indented-page>
* <div class=prose>
* <div class=lefttext>
and the possibility of adding others if they are ever created and get use

Also, if users had a preferred class with which to view that they would be able to set that. I am able to answer questions, however, you know the templates and stuff better than I. Thanks for letting me add the request here. Appreciated. billinghurst (talk) 11:31, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Thoughts about custom regex

Hey P/c. When using Thomas's match and split tool, especially with a gutenberg text, I am needing to undertake a repetitive set of the same sort of formatting that is a whole series of little regex. It would be a lovely enhancement if Regex was able to save either a series of, or the last series of regexes undertaken. Alternatively, to be able to offer a series of preset regex that users could run. Things like taking out hard returns while retain paragraph marks. Replacement of double hyphen with mdash. Thanks for your consideration. billinghurst (talk) 11:51, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

This is an experimental, incomplete feature in the dev version. It will be in the next version of the script. —Pathoschild 20:27:58, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

User language

I'm a little frustrated at the half-complete nature of en.WS's Babel system. I noticed today that meta uses User language, and I noticed that your name was at the top of the page. Would it be easy and useful to copy that over here? Admittedly, it was frustrating to have to figure out a new system, but it was also frustrating to have to deal with missing Babel templates.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:13, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello Prosfilaes. Sorry for the late response, I got distracted and forget to answer. Yes, the system is designed so it's easy to copy to another wiki. It should only take a couple of minutes to import the system and have it ready for use. —Pathoschild 03:33:45, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

js question

Help a DOM scripting newb out for a second please?

Whenever I edit a Page: page with no footnotes, I like to delete the "<references/>" from the footer. Don't ask me to explain why I do that; we all have our strange obsessions.

I had a look at some of your code, and wrote a tiny script to do it for me; see User:Hesperian/monobook.js. But it acts on the main edit box, and I can't figure out how to make it act on the footer.

Obviously I need to replace the "editbox" variable with something else, but I can't figure out what. And I don't even know how the "editbox" variable I'd using came to be defined. I suspect that I'm leveraging stuff defined in your scripts, and my script would break if ever I uninstall your Custom regex gadget.

Hesperian 07:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Hesperian. Yes, editbox is defined by my regex menu framework script; there is documentation on that page about various other methods and variables packaged with it. Is there a separate footer textbox when editing Page pages? I don't see one. —Pathoschild 05:41:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
To see the footer textbox, click the "[+]" toolbox button. Hesperian 07:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
That explains why I couldn't find it: I normally have the edit toolbar disabled. You can create a new variable as shown below, and then use it the same way you use editbox.
var footer_box = document.getElementsByName('wpFooterTextbox')[0];
Pathoschild 08:11:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
That did it! Sweet! Thanks! Hesperian 10:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Does the variable have to be defined per script, or is there a means to define universally? (someone showing their ignorance) billinghurst sDrewth 20:59, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
You don't need to define editbox at all, since the framework defines it for you. You can define other variables for all scripts by defining them outside the function bodies:
var headerbox = document.getElementsByName('wpHeaderTextbox')[0];
function foo() {
	headerbox.value = 'foopy';
function bar() {
	headerbox.value = 'boopy';
Pathoschild 23:25:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

{{smallrefs}} unsuccessful add of parameter group

Hi P/c. I tried to add the parameter 'group' to {{smallrefs}}, and while I didn't break the template, I couldn't get it to work for the work Some Remarks on Corset. Are you able to tell what was today's snafu. Thanks. billinghurst sDrewth 10:23, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Not to worry, I have thunked it. It is a tag and therefore needs {{#tag...}}, which I am not sure it warrants the effort. billinghurst sDrewth 10:30, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Request to convert Template:NSRW-IndexPage to header format

Hi P/c. When you have a moment, would you be so kind to look at Template:NSRW-IndexPage and apply your magic to it so that it complies with our {{header}} standard. Thanks. billinghurst sDrewth 21:01, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 20:34:47, 04 March 2010 (UTC)

near duplicate

The template {{Source gutenberg}} is very similar to {{Gutenberg}}, an idea so good you implemented it twice :-) I imagine you would would want to merge them, and that you would know an effortless way of doing that. Cygnis insignis (talk) 05:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I deleted {{source gutenberg}} and updated references. —Pathoschild 20:43:42, 04 March 2010 (UTC)
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