ESEAP Hub/Wikimania 2023 country choice
(English / 英語) ESEAP accepted the invitation to host the in-person Wikimania in 2023 following the cancellation of 2020 Wikimania in Bangkok due to COVID. ESEAP has been working with the WMF and the Steering Committee to assess the risks of countries within our region. The 23rd ESEAP community meeting was held using Google meet on 12 July 2022, those who attended this meeting chose to narrow down the options to two countries, namely Singapore and Japan. We invite everyone in the ESEAP community to decide which country they would prefer Wikimania 2023 to be in, while the second choice will be the alternative option should there be the need. We ask that you vote for your preferred option below.
If you have any questions, please ask on the section below.
Thank you.
(Japanese / 日本語) 東アジア、東南アジアならびに太平洋地域各国のウィキメディアンからなるESEAP ハブ は、2023年のウィキマニアを対面で主催することになりました。これは、2020年にタイのバンコクで開催される予定だったウィキマニアが、新型コロナウイルスの流行により中止となったことを受けたものです。
ESEAPは、ウィキメディア財団および運営委員会 (Steering Committee) と協力して、(ウィキマニアの開催にふさわしい国を選出するために)ESEAP各国のリスク評価を行なってきました。そして、2022年7月12日にGoogle Meetを用いて開催された第23回ESEAPミーティングにおいて、開催国の候補はシンガポールと日本の2つに絞られました。ESEAP地域のウィキメディアンの皆さまにおかれましては、どちらの国にウィキマニアを開催してほしいか、このページで投票していただければと思います。
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Deadline / 投票期限
editVoting is open to the community until 03:01 UTC 17 July 2022,
(Japanese) 投票期限は2022年7月17日(日)12:01 (JST/日本時間)です。
Voting is now closed -- 投票受付は終了しました
Vote for Singapore / シンガポールに投票する
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- Final count is 44 plus 2 after the closing deadline. there were a few votes I tag as <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> these account where all new accounts with no edits on other projects. They have not been counted as part of the vote, assuming they may be someone who is active but wanted to be annonmous with their comments they will be taken into consideration when wrapping up this outcome at the ESEAP meeting later today Gnangarra (talk) 05:19, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
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(Japanese) シンガポールに投票する場合、下記に# ~~~~とご記入ください。
- Singapore is more accessible to most countries in the regions of ESEAP being a regional hub. It is closer in terms of travel time specially to major cities in the Southeast Asian region. No Visa is required from the other ASEAN-member nations. -Filipinayzd (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Many country doesn't need visa from ESEAP region and it will ease us to go there. I think that's an enough reasonAgus Damanik (talk) 03:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 03:52, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Maffeth.opiana (talk) 03:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore will have much less visa issues compared to Japan, and is more accessible to more of the world because it is an aviation hub. —seav (talk) 03:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's much closer to all ESEAP country and Halal food is easily found. WAqil (WMYS) (talk) 04:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sengaja menyokong Singapura kerana pilihan personal أبو غاصاك (bicara) 04:35, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Based on the passport index, it is easier for people to come to Singapore than to Japan Hillun Vilayl Napis (WMID) (talk) 04:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Buszmail (talk) 04:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Aside from the administrative ease as everyone has mentioned above, Singapore has English as its main language, making communications with locals much easier Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 05:21, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I vote for Singapore; it is more accessible with less hussle in travel requirements.Ringer (talk) 05:30, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Imelda (Talk) 05:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I vote for Singapore because it is more accessible to more people especially in SE Asia region for it has fewer visa issues (all of SEAsia can go to Singapore visa-free). Bangkok is a waste: it should have been the first Wikimania to be hosted in SE Asia. Chitetskoy (talk) 05:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- --Lady01v (talk) 06:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC) For ease of travel and the common use of English language , Singapore is a more convenient choice.
- Kunokuno (talk) 07:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> Singapore should be a no-brainer. It is a developed Asia-Pacific hub that has successfully hosted conferences way larger than Wikimania. English is also widely spoken as a lingua franca. It is also much more welcoming than Japan, especially for those living in Southeast Asia. Adam L. Robertson (talk) 08:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I vote for Singapore because of its accessibility to all participants. MarvinBikolano (talk) 1:58:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- --Altostratus (talk) 08:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Let's do Singapore. Good accessibility in more ways than one for all ESEAP countries. Lukas Abelshauser (talk) 08:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore. MargaretRDonald
- GhoziSeptiandri (talk) 13:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- FrincesEzra (talk) 13:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ralffralff (talk) 14:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Zyrahila (talk) 17:04, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- As a member of Japanese Wikipedia's user group, I think Japan is not suitable. In addition to the abovementioned visa problem, Japan's weather in August is among the worst in East Asia (the heat will kill us...). Furthermore, most of Japan's cultural institutions which could hold Wikipedia-related events, including museums, libraries, and universities, are closed in mid-August during Obon (the Buddhist festival to commemorate the dead) or very busy for Obon-related cultural events, and we cannot make use of them. The traffic is disastrous during this period, for many people go back to their hometowns (let's say it is a Japanese equivalent to the Chinese New Year festival in terms of the traffic congestion). Perhaps Singapore is a better place to hold this kind of cultural event in August than Japan.--さえぼー (talk) 07:39, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore is geographically more well-connected to the rest of world. A more open visa policy will also benefit participants. -Michael (WMHKG) (talk) 09:50, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's Wikimania, I wanna go abroad ;-) (kidding) Takot (talk) 15:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- To be honest, it is unclear how long current Covid-related blanket entry restriction of tourists to Japan will continue. Even if it is lifted, Singapore employs more welcome entry policy to the world. --Takot (talk) 15:33, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- MurielMary (talk) 00:53, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> Singapore triumphs in handling MICE activities. JohannaCaroline (talk) 01:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore is easy to access. Meursault2004 (talk) 05:13, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore for now if I have the opportunity to travel to. I am from the Philippines and that Singapore doesn't require visa for Filipino wikipedians unlike Japan. Gerry Yabes 14:36, 15 July 2022 GMT+8
- per さえぼー. RamzyM (talk) 07:21, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Better accessibility will allow more participations from wider community --22Kartika (talk) 09:05, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Both are great destinations but Singapore is a hub for so many airlines and has fewer visa requirements than Japan which will hopefully permit more people to get there with least hassle. Just one comment though, it can be very hot and humid in Singapore (which is right on the equator) so the timing of the event should aim for the cooler drier months. Kerry Raymond (talk) 09:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- --ZKang123 (talk) 12:11, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Center hub for Asian & South East Asian volunteers. DIVINE (talk) 12:47, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> Singapore for ease of entry, travel/movement, and communication. Concentr8 (talk) 05:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC);
- Ardzun (talk) 10:45, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Adhmi (talk) 13:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- For this moment of time, Singapore is still the preferred choice over Japan due to more visa exemptions to countries around the world. Dody Ismoyo (talk) 14:21, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore is well-connected with different countries. Venuslui (talk)14:40, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- As for now, Singapore seems to be a suitable and feasible host country for Wikimania 2023, considering the ease of access in the post-Covid-19 state and the convenience of visas for most citizens. Moreover, in terms of its location at the center of the Wikimedia affiliates, it will allow them to participate in helping the execution of Wikimania 2023, both online and in person. Yet, as mentioned by Exec8 below, Japan is still an alternative location should Singapore not be selected. ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 19:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore seems to be an easy access society. Chcyang (talk) 00:05, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Realistically speaking, we still don't know when Japan will open for general tourists and organizing event with that uncertainty would be really challenging Kenrick95 (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> Singapore is an amazing place :) SteviaTeah (talk) 01:21, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- <annon IP, unable to determine if user has a edit history prior 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> I think Singapore is a good choice because this country is a great place and uses English, it is more convenient for an international meeting. 2406:3003:2000:13E0:4083:E02F:77EF:DF5F 01:50, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Motoko C. K. (talk) 01:58, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Bidgee (Talk) 02:45, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Singapore and Japan are both close to my heart. I lived in these countries more than just a traveller but a short term resident. Both are worthy to host Wikimania. However in this case, my decision is not for my personal preference but a commitment to the intended theme, Power of diverse collaboration: Sharing knowledge brings people together. Choosing a higher visa-free regime score country (data based from the Passport Index website) would break the burden of our fellow Wikimedians from queing in embassies just to submit application for a visa. Some Wikimedians before would need to travel physically to another country because their country do not have an embassy post of a Wikimania host country. For Singapore, those countries who require a visa will just file it online. Though this will be the third Wikimania in UTC+8, it would be the first for Southeast Asia and first very near the equator after going down south on 2018 and up north in 2019! --Exec8 (talk) 02:57, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
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- Jp2593 (talk) 03:13, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> Singapore is great. Sally Reder (talk) 03:42, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Pentagon 2057 (talk) 03:58, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
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Vote for Japan / 日本に投票する
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- Final count is 24 plus 1 after the closing deadline. there was one votes I tag as <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> this account was a new accounts with no edits on other projects. They have not been counted as part of the vote, assuming they may be someone who is active but wanted to be annonomous with their comment it will be taken into consideration when wrapping up this outcome at the ESEAP meeting later today
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(Japanese) 日本に投票する場合、下記に# ~~~~とご記入ください。都市のご要望があればそちらもご記入ください。
- Saya pilih ke Jepang deh, sekalian berkunjung ke kuilnya Miyamoto Musashi. Marwan Mohamad (talk) 04:48, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Veracious (talk) 04:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- <account created 13 July 2022 Gnangarra (talk)> I vote for Japan because it's my lifelike dream to go there. (talk) 12:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Dreams are nice and all, but how sure are you that you will be granted a temporary visitor visa to Japan? Disregard if you're from a visa-free country. Accessibility wise, Singapore is the clear winner here. Adam L. Robertson (talk) 08:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Because East Asia was always out of sight of Wikimedia Movements. - Ellif (talk) 05:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I choose Japan Urang Depok (Welcome😊) 13 July 13:04 (UTC)
- If visa is a reason, we have held a Wikimania in Israel 2011 and the 2018 GLAM Wiki Conference which made it difficult to some participants who lived in countries whose government was not in good terms. I also live in SE Asia, but the Japanese Wikimedia community deserves this opportunity more, with known users present like in Wikipedia Asia Month (I got a postcard from them) and Wikimania. They have held Wikimedia Conference Japan in some years albeit in a hiatus now. But this is the opportunity for WMF and us to give more presence in the movement to the region where a community is already present. RXerself (talk) 06:13, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- In my opinion, Japan has many Wikimedia projects in its language and a more vibrant Wikimedia community. However, Japan is underrepresented in the global events of Wikimedia because of the language barrier. Suppose we choose Singapore just because they are using English. In that case, our movement is not fully committed to diversity. Also, previous Wikimanias are organized in several countries that are not major hubs for flights, and the events still run relatively smoothly. It's a symbolic statement to conduct a global event of our diverse movement in an underrepresented country within an underrepresented region. -- Johnstad Wanna Talk? 06:27, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note speaking english was not a criteria in the risk assessment (see diff post) , individual safety issues including LGBTI+ and religious restrictions were part of the matrix presented to the ESEAP 23rd public meeting the people there took the 9 options and chose these two for wider consideration and deeper assessment. Gnangarra (talk) 06:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I'm aware of the criteria for hosting Wikimania. I'm writing that statement to give a new insight to some people who vote based on language. Johnstad Wanna Talk? 07:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note speaking english was not a criteria in the risk assessment (see diff post) , individual safety issues including LGBTI+ and religious restrictions were part of the matrix presented to the ESEAP 23rd public meeting the people there took the 9 options and chose these two for wider consideration and deeper assessment. Gnangarra (talk) 06:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not keeping my eyes out to Wikimedia culture and movements much but I can say Japanese community got my attention a lot than Singapore community one (or has it any?). I agree with previous voters that language barriers divide communities. With that reason, why don't we choose the divided so that they may get a chance to rise? Creutzen (talk) 06:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Rahmatdenas (talk) 07:21, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- An opportunity to learn more about Wikimedians in Japan and involve them in the movement. Fexpr (talk) 07:38, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- SNN95 (talk) - Vice President of WMCUGM 07:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Japan, please. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 08:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- この素晴らしいイベントが日本で開催されることを願って。/ I hope this event will be held in Japan.VZP10224 (talk) 13:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Japan, please Doctor 17 (talk) 14:48, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Japan is always the best international travel destination in the heart of most Taiwanese.--Reke (talk) 07:25, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Was it really necessary to make this political? 181.116.200.17 09:53, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think this is a political reason. According to statistics from the Taiwanese government, Japan has been the top visited overseas destination by Taiwanese tourists for many years run. It's not exaggerating to say so. Reke (talk) 08:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Was it really necessary to make this political? 181.116.200.17 09:53, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- The roads of these two countries are relatively clean. I like the cleanliness of Japanese toilets. --B20180 (talk) 12:54, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- At first sight it seems to be strange to argue, that Japan (and Japanese) is underrepresented in the Wikimedia, because the Japanese Wikipedia-Version is one of the largest. But Japan has (still) no chapter and when it comes to International meetings the representation of Japan is very poor. Will a Wikimania in Japan change this? Difficult to say, but it would convey a very strong message. Don`t get me wrong, Singapore is definitely a very fascinating place, with vibrating cultures, there are a lot of arguments, also practical ones, which speak in the favor of Singapore. But I would argue, for the strong message. Of course I am not neutral in this decision, I life in Japan and therefore it will be easier for me to access a Wikimania in Japan. But that is not the reason, for my decision. If it would be possible to integrate a vibrant community, which is not English-speaking more into the Wikimedia movement, this would be strong message for diversity. And it could be possible that the Wikimedia movement in Japan would be stronger, for the benefit of the movement worldwide. And naturally, I will be in Japan to help. Alexander, --Ai24 (talk) 00:26, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Japan, Please. Tsuna Lu (talk) 08:08, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Japan :) Harditaher (talk) 13:09, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Please go to Japan :-) --S8321414 (talk) 13:15, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Subscriptshoe9 (talk) 16:55, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Joycewikiwiki (talk) 23:20, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- BJ Sinaga (talk) 23:27, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Japan ^_^ Imacat (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- Vote for Japan :) Carma citrawati (talk) 02:10, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
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- For one thing,Japanese public order is better than Singapore . Marimonomori (talk) 04:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Is that what your fellow members at the en:Uyoku dantai tell you? 1.245.241.182 05:37, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
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Questions and discussion / 質問・議論
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- (English) This is Eugene Ormandy, a Japanese Wikipedian. I wonder what Japanese volunteers have to do if Japan is selected. We don’t have user group and there are no WMF staff who understand Japanese (as I know). Do volunteers have to find and reserve the venue?
(Japanese)日本語版ウィキペディア編集者のEugene Ormandyです。もし日本がウィキマニアの開催国に選出された場合、日本のボランティアたちがしなくてはいけないことはありますか。日本にはユーザーグループはありませんし、私が知っている限り、日本語のわかるウィキメディア財団のスタッフはいません。ボランティアたちは会場を探したり、予約したりする必要はありますか?--Eugene Ormandy (talk) 12:50, 12 July 2022 (UTC)- no need for a user group, the WMF & ESEAP will organise the event including having someone in the host country to help with the onsite event co-ordination. <machine translation to Japanese> WMFとESEAPは、ユーザーグループの必要なく、開催国の担当者が現地でイベントのコーディネートを行うなど、イベントの運営を行います。Gnangarra (talk) 13:41, 12 July 2022 (UTC)(この括弧の中は機械翻訳ではありません。開催のためにはユーザーグループである必要はありません。ウィキメディア財団とESEAPがこのイベントをオーガナイズします。このオンサイト・イベントをコーディネート支援する誰かをホスト・カントリー内で見つけることを含めて。--YShibata (talk) 11:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC))
- (English) OK. Thanks. (Japanese)わかりました。--Eugene Ormandy (talk) 14:17, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- no need for a user group, the WMF & ESEAP will organise the event including having someone in the host country to help with the onsite event co-ordination. <machine translation to Japanese> WMFとESEAPは、ユーザーグループの必要なく、開催国の担当者が現地でイベントのコーディネートを行うなど、イベントの運営を行います。Gnangarra (talk) 13:41, 12 July 2022 (UTC)(この括弧の中は機械翻訳ではありません。開催のためにはユーザーグループである必要はありません。ウィキメディア財団とESEAPがこのイベントをオーガナイズします。このオンサイト・イベントをコーディネート支援する誰かをホスト・カントリー内で見つけることを含めて。--YShibata (talk) 11:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC))
- Here is the link from Passport Index on the comparison of visa policies of Singapore and Japan to each passport issuing country. --Exec8 (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- (English) Maybe the visa policies will change for the better. (Japanese) 多分査証政策は好転するだろう。 Robertsky (talk) 18:00, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- How will the result of this vote be decided? A simple majority (50+1%), two-thirds, three-fifths? RamzyM (talk) 07:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @RamzyM: we'll present the choices of ESEAP community to the steering committee and WMF team simple majority will be the primary choice and with the other being our alternative. We'll go forward using this information with selecting the COT to run all the event elements. Gnangarra (talk) 07:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- That would make sense. Just to confirm, would the Steering Committee have any power to overturn the result of this vote (for any reason)? RamzyM (talk) 07:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes of course in theory there could always be potential reasons arise to not go with the majority thats why we have decide the other country as being the primary alternative. Gnangarra (talk) 08:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- That would make sense. Just to confirm, would the Steering Committee have any power to overturn the result of this vote (for any reason)? RamzyM (talk) 07:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @RamzyM: we'll present the choices of ESEAP community to the steering committee and WMF team simple majority will be the primary choice and with the other being our alternative. We'll go forward using this information with selecting the COT to run all the event elements. Gnangarra (talk) 07:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I would be content with either option. Neither of them has a Chapter or User Group, and so that factor appears to be neutral. Singapore has much more lenient visa requirements, and airfares to and from Singapore are generally cheaper. For most Wikimanians, Singapore would likely be less of a culture shock. Japan has the world's third biggest economy, and Tokyo is one of the world's most important cities (although I understand that a Japanese Wikimania may be held at another venue, eg Osaka). I have been to Japan once, and in my experience communications were not a problem in the big cities I visited. If anything, I think the language issue favours Japan, as one of Wikimania's objectives should be to help the Wikimedia movement cross language barriers. In that regard, Japanese Wikipedia has more than 1 Million articles, and Japanese topics are covered very substantially in English Wikipedia. At the moment, however, Japanese is one of the language areas with a 1M+ article Wikipedia, but no record of having hosted Wikimania (the others are Dutch, Portuguese, Russian, Ukrainian and Vietnamese). Bahnfrend (talk) 13:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment It also depends on when to happen. If it will be held mid-August in Japan, like virtual Wikimanias 2021 and 2022, traffic congestions will be the worst and climate is the harshest in a year, as さえぼー-san explained above. --Takot (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment This is a tough choice for me. Singapore is my home, whilst I travel frequently to Japan (pre-covid). I do want to travel to Japan again... I am a WordPress Singapore meetup group coorganiser. I helped to organise WordPress meetups and conferences in Singapore, and had gone to Malaysia and Japan for their WordPress conferences as well. I also would volunteer/assist in other tech meetups/conferences in Singapore, usually for video recording of presentations pre-covid as well). Singapore is an excellent location for MICE activities. The assessment made on Singapore in the previous meeting (I didn't participate though) is largely correct. There're no lack of potential venues; excellent connectivity internationally (flights), and nationally (no lack of public transport); wide choices of cruisine (other than the local fare, which already consists of Chinese, Malay, Indian food, you can easily find American, French, Japanese, Korean, etc F&B establishments. There're also halal and vegetarian options). LGBT+ is noted as having some risk in the previous meeting. However, laws that marginalise the community aren't really enforced. We even have an annual event since 2009 to publicly support the LGBT community. Thus far, it's grassroot driven without much interference from the authorities. We don't have a wikimedia affiliate here, and the editors here are pretty much informal with each other. However, if there's interest in travel/food/money-saving guides/tips, I don't helping in contributing/consolidating them. Although Singapore is pretty accomomdating to MICE events all year round, there's a couple of dates in 2023 we may want to avoid: public holidays such as 22-24 Jan, Chinese New Year; 9 Aug, Singapore's National Day, and end Sep - start Oct, F1 race. The country is largely not functioning on these public holidays stated, and we will have to pay a premium if events are organised on these dates. Parts of the CBD area will be locked down for F1 since it is a street race across the CBD, with many of the hotels booked out leading up to the 3-day race event. Robertsky (talk) 20:52, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- The ESEAP community nominated the candidate locations based on this risk assessment matrix prepared by the Wikimedia Foundation. In the June meeting, we shortlisted the locations for risk assessment namely Australia, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, the Philippines, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Thailand. In the July meeting, after the release of the risk matrix, we made two rounds of voting. On the first round, the shortlisted locations are Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, South Korea, Indonesia, Australia and the Philippines. After the first round, the top three locations seeded to the next round namely Japan, Singapore and Thailand. On the second round the final two candidate locations were selected namely Singapore and Japan. We agree on the July meeting to allow the general ESEAP community to nominate the preferred location and alternate location based on the final two candidate locations here in meta-wiki. --Exec8 (talk) 00:32, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- (en) I love both Japan and Singapore! I didn't vote but have a question. If Wikimania 2023 goes to Japan, where in Japan will it be?
- (日) 日本とシンガポールが両方大好きで、投票しなかった。でも、僕は質問がある。ウイキマニア2023は日本で開催したら、日本のどこでしますか?Deryck C. 10:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- that is answer you'll have to wait until Wikimania 2022 to find out Gnangarra (talk) 10:39, 2 August 2022 (UTC)