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-- Meta-Wiki Welcome (talk) 19:40, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Military history user group title

Greetings, firstly thanks for your support and feedback to the proposal to form a user group for military historians of Wikipedia. As there is enough support for the proposal, it is time to choose a title, and go ahead. Please vote at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians#Group name. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talkmail) 11:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Re: Signature and SRG

Hey LightandDark2000. The user in question is UpsandDowns1234, whose signature is actually pretty different from yours but the usernames were similar enough for my tired mind to draw the connection. No fault of yours here; thanks for reporting the LTA accounts for locking. – Ajraddatz (talk) 21:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Eh, it's no big deal. I've had instances where I was exhausted to the point that I accidentally added some uninvolved users to an active SPI report, just because their names were interwoven with multiple sock accounts in the revision history, or because their usernames were close enough to a mob of socks for me to accidentally pull them all into an SPI list. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:24, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Your signature

Hi LightandDark2000! Would you mind changing your signature code slightly, it is causing Special:LintErrors/misnested-tag errors. You can change it and keep the same appearance by changing:

[[en:User:LightandDark2000|<span style="color:#C69214">'''''Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:LightandDark2000#top|talk]])


[[en:User:LightandDark2000|<span style="color:#C69214">'''''Light'''''</span><span style="color:#410064">'''''and'''''</span><span style="color:blue">'''''Dark2000'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:LightandDark2000#top|talk]])

The bold and italics don't like being carried across nested span elements, thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:11, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Slight correction, just for the record on this old discussion: it's not quite that bold and italics don't like being carried across nested span elements, it's that the nested elements have to be balanced and popped in the right order. The bold-italic can be extrapolated to the outside as long as the nesting inside is correct. That is,
  • '''''[[en:User:LightandDark2000|<span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span>]]''''' 🌀
is converted by the rendering engine to:
  • <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:LightandDark2000" title="User:LightandDark2000"><span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span></a></b></i> 🌀
which passes validation at W3C Markup Validator when embedded in
  • <!DOCTYPE html><html lang="en"><head><title>Foo</title></head><body> . . . </body></html>
If that is *still* causing Linter errors, then I'd like to hear why, as there may be a problem somewhere on our side. Mathglot (talk) 20:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

2018 Arbcom CU and Oversight elections

Dear L&D2k,

There is important topic discussion in WP namescape, and your participation is appreciate it because you are strong anti-vandal patrol.

Link is click here:

2018 Arbcom CU and Oversight elections

--Fernandez Q (talk) 20:30, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


Hi LightandDark2000. I appreciate your help on SRG, but there are a few things you should be aware of. First: please don't report every sockpuppet of an LTA, especially when they're only active on one wiki. Stewards already have enough work to do and locking accounts which weren't globally active is not very useful. Secondly, please do not tell stewards that they should CU and block the underlying IP addresses every time. We usually know what to do. Thirdly, if you want local pages to be deleted, please add {{delete}} to those pages. Like I said: stewards already have enough to do and besides, on wikis with local admins stewards aren't even supposed to act. With such deletion requests global sysops can also assist. I hope this is clear for you. If not, feel free to ask. Thank you. With regards, Trijnsteltalk 18:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I would like to second the above message. Furthermore, If I may ask, please only report accounts with recent activity. In this request, for instance, you reported an account that last edited on 12 June 2018 and can't even be checked. There are thousands and thousands of unlocked old/ancient vandal accounts and sockpuppets of LTAs, so it's simply unfeasible to lock them all. Otherwise, thank you for your help on SRG. It is really appreciated. Best regards, Defender (talk) 17:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Selective removals from talk pages & SR pages for requests

Hi. Please do not selectively remove text that you do not like, as you did from Ruslik0's talk page; I have undone those removals. It would be better for the general community if you put steward requests to the appropriate request page, rather than at user talk pages. Having the data in appropriate place allows for better, timely and informed decision-making. Having requests at SR pages allow for proper record-keeping and searches to find what was requested, when it was requested, and why it was requested. Thanks for your diligence in this matter.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:53, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

That is a pretty disrespectful removal. If you would like to have a conversation please have the courtesy to use a talk page properly, rather than dismissively think that I am just worthy of an undo and an extended edit summary.  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
I meant no disrespect. I normally don't keep all conversations/discussions on my talk page(s), and I tend to perform routine deletion, after I have read the post. I apologize if you took offensive at my deletion. I would like to note that the IP comments from Arturo Gustavo were clearly a form of trolling, and from my experience (and my observations of other users/admins), it's relatively common to revert/delete comments from trolls and vandals, and there are the WP:RBI and WP:DENY guidelines that lay out steps for dealing with trolls. I've almost never seen any cases where comments with the obvious intent to troll are left behind. I will leave the comments on Ruslik's talk page for now (unless someone else wants them gone). I will eventually remove this topic within a day, though. I'm already dealing with enough LTAs, and leaving stuff like this where anyone can see it is just going to be fuel for trolls. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 07:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
This is a talk page, if you wish to archive posts, then do so. Simply deleting on all occasions is not suitable. We are all dealing with trolls, and some of us have been at it for a long period of time. Stop feeding them is the advice.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:16, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Building off what Billinghurst is saying, if you're frustrated with the trolls the best thing to do is take some time off. I'd recommend at least a week. The wikiworld isn't going to collapse without you (or any of us) – Ajraddatz (talk) 03:28, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


I'm all for locking him and think that people should just report new accounts at SRG rather than filing tons of SPIs n, but you realize that dredging up accounts of his from 2017 is relatively pointles, right? He's an LTA, but on that spectrum he is more on the "slight annoyance" side than the "psychopath who threatens terrorist attacks" side of the spectrum. He even creates usernames letting us know where he is when he is travelling so that stewards and CheckUsers don't get confused if the geolocation is off (this is public).

Creating SRG requests of stale socks that are unliekly to ever be used again wastes steward time and only encourages him to create more usernames about you being a goody-two shoes with PlyrStar93 and the like.

Tl;dr just report new Arturo accounts to SRG. The old ones are a waste of time, even if some may be funny names to read. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:54, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

He's logging back into his old accounts (including ones dating back to 2015), so unfortunately, the older ones have to be locked as well. Since he only does this every once in a while, I'll only dig up old accounts each time he creates a new batch of socks. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 03:55, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Wait until he uses them. All he ever does is tell Drmies how much he loves him, post here to tell you that you are abusing SRG, and randombly post usernames on people's talks. We aren't talking about the unabomber here. Going through thousands of accounts that don't have CU data isn't really helpful. We can always spot him in CU (again, he creates accounts to let us know he is traveling...) and we can very easily deal with the old accounts that become active as the become active again. Like I said, lock the new accounts, sure. Agree 100%, but don't dredge up the ancient accounts. There are some stewards who will do it on their own anyway, but they can do it in private and without making a show of tons of accounts on a public wiki. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:02, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I'll take the second option. I agree, he isn't nearly as bad as the worst LTAs I have come across, so the actions that are required to deal with him don't have to be nearly as extreme. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 04:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


Previously you identified several vandals as Wonderfool, but they appears to be unrelated. You may want to comment on this page.--GZWDer (talk) 09:25, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what I would say there. The SPI troll appears to be a rogue/ex-admin, given their behavior (including gaming the system in an attempt to gain elevated privileges), and the activity of one of their socks at Robdurbar's userpage led me to believe that this was Rodurbar/Wonderfool. It's possible that he's using a VPN service or Proxy (which is known for throwing off CheckUser results), but it's also possible that it's another long-term troll who has a grudge against admins. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 09:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)