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Notification of Past Due Chapter ReportingEdit

Good day, This is a notification to bring to your attention that your organization is currently past due on its required annual reporting. Chapters are required to submit an annual activity and annual financial report covering the entirety of the 12-month agreement period due within 4 months of the end of the organizations fiscal year. Reports must be written in English, posted to meta, and linked on the meta Reports page.

This page is used to track how organizations and groups are meeting reporting requirements described in their agreements with the Wikimedia Foundation (e.g. chapter agreements, thematic organization agreements, user group agreements). It is the central place where affiliates can add reports about their activities, share their plans, and even news or social media channels with the wider movement. When new reports are available, organizations and groups should add them to this page to keep their columns up to date.

As noted on the meta Reports page, your organization’s 2017 annual reporting became past due in April. Please be sure to

  1. Post your 2017 annual reporting to the meta Reports page as soon as possible to return to compliance with your chapter agreement.
  2. Check that your group’s page is also up to date with past report links for historical record-keeping, and
  3. Please send an email to Wikimedia-l in order to share with a movement-wide audience.

If you have any questions or need any further guidance, please don’t hesitate to reach out.

Best regards, DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 17:35, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@DNdubane (WMF): It has been updated sometime back, please check.--Abhinav619 (talk) 05:47, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Shutting down of Wikimedia IndiaEdit

Wikimedia India Chapter is to be de-recognized by WMF and shut down, from September 14, 2019, for the inability of the community to abide by Foundation requirements and lack of leadership. The community has accused WMF of not taking them into confidence and have sought a public hearing on the issue.Per Nitnaware, Himanshu (July 14 2019). "It's a curtain call for Wikimedia India Chapter". Pune Mirror. Retrieved 2019-07-14.  Check date values in: |date= (help) Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 15:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Maybe Titodutta can say something more about the circumstances (since he is employed by CIS), given that the souring of love affair between CIS and WMF-I, seems to be a major mitigating factor. Or Krishna Chaitanya Velaga can say something about his' being a board member but claiming absolute ignorance about the state of affairs.Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 15:17, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm surprised that this made the news already and I'm even more surprised that the community has to learn about the de-recognition from the press. The image of Wikimedia Foundation shutting down WMIN to please Google and its deep-pocketed projects is especially unflattering and I hope the WMF offers a powerful counter-narrative rather than the usual stonewalling (like "given no other choice"). Nemo 18:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Precisely; there's nothing in public apart from the linked news and a MayDay message by Abhinav to the Wikimedia-mailing-list, when the AffCom had already settled on the decision. There's absolutely nothing else in any wiki/mailing list. Both the sides (WMIN and AffCom) need to give some clear answers, as to the complete absence of transparency. 06:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 06:24, 15 July 2019
I see below that the stonewalling continues. Pity, a wasted opportunity. Nemo 22:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Support for our communities across IndiaEdit

Hello everyone,

Wikimedia projects are supported by you—a network of generous individual volunteers, groups, and organizations around the world. Together, you collaboratively enrich, grow, and advance the Wikimedia projects and free knowledge mission.

You may have heard about the Affiliations Committee’s decision to recommend the de-recognition of Wikimedia India. Some community members have asked what this means for the future of WIkimedia communities in India. We want to share more information about the AffCom decision, and reaffirm our commitment to and support for our many communities across India.

The Affiliations Committee is a community-run body of volunteers that represents and supports Wikimedia affiliates. After several years of working with Wikimedia India to bring its activities in line with chapter requirements, the Affiliations Committee recommended in June 2019 that the Wikimedia Foundation not renew the chapter agreement.

Wikimedia India was first recognized as a chapter in 2011. In 2015, it experienced difficulties meeting chapter agreement obligations. Working with the Affiliations Committee and the Foundation, the chapter developed a plan of action and returned to good standing by 2017. However, between 2017 and 2019 the chapter was unable to secure a license to act as a fiduciary organization, and is not currently legally registered as a charity in India to accept funding from the Foundation. The Foundation and Affiliations Committee both hope that this licensing and registration can be secured, and that the chapter will take all the steps needed to be eligible for recognition.

We are grateful for the vibrant, growing community in India who has shown great leadership and created significant impact within our global movement. The Foundation currently supports eight Indic language community user groups, and we expect two more to be announced by AffCom in the coming weeks. We receive more than 700 million pageviews to Wikipedia every month from readers in India, and the growth of the Indic community is a top priority for the future of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects.

The Republic of India is of great importance to the Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia Foundation remains committed to supporting volunteer editors, contributors, readers, and donors across India. We’re grateful for all of your continued and growing efforts to support Wikimedia projects and our free knowledge mission. We look forward to continuing our work with you together.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation,

Valerie D’Costa
Chief of Community Engagement
Wikimedia Foundation

Posted by CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@CKoerner (WMF): Thank You for your response. I will be happy to provide few clarifications and would also like to ask few questions. It would be grateful to receive your response.
  • unable to secure a license to act as a fiduciary organization : Wikimedia India which is registered under Karnataka Societies Act, 1960 is governed by rules, procedures, legislation's and jurisdictions within the Republic of India. Wikimedia India submits its annual report to the registrar office for the Karnataka society every financial year beginning 1st April till 31st March.
  • is not currently legally registered as a charity in India to accept funding from the Foundation. : This is not a government license to attain utility which can be accessed by all if things are in order. Repeated best efforts are being made to attain the said license. Several times on public platform such information has been shared and sharing again for visibility here. Has WMF done some independent research on the same ? Grateful to receive a response.
  • The Foundation and Affiliations Committee both hope that this licensing and registration can be secured, and that the chapter will take all the steps needed to be eligible for recognition. : As follow-up to the second statement this is not a utility license. What is the view of Foundation and Affiliations Committee on Chapter's zero budget activities ? As asked by the Affiliations Committee would running programs and taking the movement forward not meet sufficiency and having WMF grants be a necessary criteria for sufficiency ?
  • we expect two more to be announced by AffCom in the coming weeks. There is public information about Wikipedians of Goa User Group which can also be found on the Application Pipeline page but there is complete secrecy about the second User Group. Why has Chapter's view also not recorded for the same ? It is mandatory for the Affiliations Committee to approach the existing affiliates in the same Geographical area.

Thank You. Looking forward to hearing. --Abhinav619 (talk) 06:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello Abhinav,
Thank you for providing that clarification. Please see our response to your questions in line...
is not currently legally registered as a charity in India to accept funding from the Foundation. : This is not a government license to attain utility which can be accessed by all if things are in order. Repeated best efforts are being made to attain the said license. Several times on public platform such information has been shared and sharing again for visibility here. Has WMF done some independent research on the same ? Grateful to receive a response.
We acknowledge and encourage the best efforts made to get FRCA licensing. It is a necessary step for Wikimedia India to receive funding like other Indic organizations have. The Affiliations Committee (AffCom) requested evidence of this license from Wikimedia India, it does not independently research affiliate licensing and registration.
The Foundation and Affiliations Committee both hope that this licensing and registration can be secured, and that the chapter will take all the steps needed to be eligible for recognition. : As follow-up to the second statement this is not a utility license. What is the view of Foundation and Affiliations Committee on Chapter's zero budget activities ? As asked by the Affiliations Committee would running programs and taking the movement forward not meet sufficiency and having WMF grants be a necessary criteria for sufficiency ?
The revocation notice was based on Wikimedia India’s activities between December 2018 and May 2019, and it set out concerns about the chapter’s capacities in terms of Legal Structure, Open Governance, Active Contributor Involvement, overall Capacity, and with regard to organizational best practices required of chapters. The necessary criteria for chapters have also been shared.
we expect two more to be announced by AffCom in the coming weeks. There is public information about Wikipedians of Goa User Group which can also be found on the Application Pipeline page but there is complete secrecy about the second User Group. Why has Chapter's view also not recorded for the same ? It is mandatory for the Affiliations Committee to approach the existing affiliates in the same Geographical area.
Both user group applicants referred to are shown in our new pipeline under committee review: Wikipedians of Goa User Group and Dehalvi Wikimedia User Group. Notification about the applications and request for comments was sent to all existing Indian affiliates in good standing. Wikimedia India did not receive the notification as the chapter was already in suspension as of 10 November, 2018, before the two new applications were submitted.
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation,
Valerie D’Costa
Chief of Community Engagement
Wikimedia Foundation
Posted by CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 15:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear @CKoerner (WMF):
  • You have mentioned that it is a necessary step for Wikimedia India to receive funding. There are so many other affiliates who work on zero-budget then why this special criteria for India Chapter.
  • India Chapter till date has been requesting Affiliations Committee to put all communications in public. Chapter has no communication records since November 2018 where Affiliations committee was asking for evidence on efforts put up for FCRA License. Please provide necessary information like a Mail followed with Time-stamp etc.
  • Wikimedia Foundation has been asked for their views on Chapter running zero-budget programs, however you have responded on different parameters like Open Governance, Capacity etc. Please respond to the questions asked specifically. In Addition, Affiliations committee has been asked to provide evidence on several such parameters however they haven't, however this is not the question asked to WMF. Please answer as per the query.
  • Thank You for your response on User Groups. --Abhinav619 (talk) 17:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

@CKoerner (WMF): "The Affiliations Committee is a community-run body of volunteers" - This is a gross misrepresentation, basically a lie. AffCom is entirely run by the WMF, and has nothing to do with the "community". Some individual members of the community may be part of it, but the community does not runs it in any possible way. Even AffCom members are chosen by AffCom itself, often completely against the expressed wish of the community. Please don't make AffCom troubled decisions as this one look as if they had emanated from the community, when it is purely WMF stuff. Thanks, --- Darwin Ahoy! 15:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Affiliations Committee CommunicationEdit

Abhinav,
AffCom’s main concern has been that the chapter has overcommitted itself and has not been able to develop the capacities needed to comply with the requirements for continued chapter recognition; specifically, the suspension notice was sent based on concerns regarding the chapter’s capacities in terms of legal structure, open governance, active contributor involvement, and overall capacity, and with regard to organizational best practices required of chapters. According to the suspension notice, the window for demonstrating those capacities and practices to AffCom was between December 2018 and May 2019, and the chapter failed to do so. Indeed, we imagine that the barrier to receiving Foundation and other foreign program funds has limited the chapter’s capacities and development.
The final window for demonstrating Wikimedia India’s chapter capacities and practices was between December 2018 and May 2019, as detailed in the suspension notice AffCom sent on November 10, 2018. The submissions by the Chapter in March 2019, and now June 2019, while intended to meet the terms of the suspension notice, were submitted late and did not evidence the capacities in question; this was explained in detail in the April call and associated notes. The June submission was made only after AffCom’s decision to revoke the recognition and, upon review, does not appear to resolve the primary points of concern, which remain unaddressed.
As you know, AffCom has also notified and encouraged Wikimedia India to reorganize and reapply as a Wikimedia User Group in order to stay within the Wikimedia affiliate ecosystem while you work to redevelop the capacities named above. This would allow the group to begin setting a new track record and more attainable goals for an organization without any funding. We encourage you to reach out to explore the steps necessary to apply as a Wikimedia User Group.
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee
17:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear @Kirill Lokshin:, I have re-allocted the discussion under a separate header.
  • There is still complete silence from your response on putting all communications under public domain.
  • There is still complete silence from your response on providing objective responses to different parameters like Open Governance etc. Please reply with facts and evidence as also asked over Public Mailing list. Chapter continues to believe they do not hold much weight.
  • You mention specific timelines but do not answer why Chapter is not given a right to be heard even once before the suspension notice is being provided. In addition, why did Affiliations committee did not respond to Mails and invited for Internet Calls. We continue to believe our oral responses were not taken in any action.
  • Please provide views of Affiliations Committee on Chapter running zero-budget self-financed programs.

Thanks. --Abhinav619 (talk) 17:36, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Re-assessment For The DecisionEdit

Hi @Kirill Lokshin:, At first place I appreciate that you yourself understand restrictive foreign funding as been the problem for India Chapter. Most people outside India don't understand that. I recommend in all good spirit to revisit your study. Please don't get me wrong but we understand Affiliations Committee to be someone who help affiliates in their problem. Your response looks in bad light. You should help instead and not suggest User Group model etc. Without Chapter there will be no volunteer body at national level but only CIS. There is no election and democracy out there. You know right Chapter works without any money ? Then, help them out and listen to their problems. Working without any money for the entire annual cycle is not an easy task. There should be appreciation and not punishment. -Nikhil.kawale (talk) 10:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear @Kirill Lokshin:,
  1. Moving to nation chapter status to user-group status is not going gain FCRA approval. It will only going weaken the case.
  2. National Chapter has a funding issue. Indian nationals can donate to chapter without any issue. Donating to WMF or WMIN has no tax benefit. Ask WMIN to a plan for one financial year and raise required fund directly from Indian nationals from Wikimedia sites.
I know this is not going to happen. This is suggested multiple times from 2011 onwards. Niether WMF nor Affiliations Committee want to help. They just tell get the FCRA approval which almost impossible now.

-- naveenpf (talk) 11:31, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Anirudh has already mentioned most of the points I also wanted to say. (Check here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2019-July/014215.html) I will add a few more things here.
WMF is very very keen on all kinds of legal compliance. The recent example is the "Germany court order". Surprisingly, possibly for the first time in Wikipedia history, all the relevent content was WIPED out from Wikipedia within a day of the court order where only one person was affected by the content. Compared to that, here in India, FCRA issue is affecting thousands of organisations in a serious way and AFFCOM is still not able to understand the FCRA compliance issue. (Maybe, compared to Indian languages, German language is better understood by concerned people!!)
By the way, What was the support given by WMF/AFFCOM to WMIN in the FCRA matters? Have they provided any consultant or legal help to WMIN. Or even some high level contacts in the concerned Government office to put up our case further.
It will also be interesting to know if by any chance, CIS looses FCRA, (I sincerely wish that does not happen anytime) AFFCOM/WMF will remove their affiliation? Read the WMF news article here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/04/11/a-german-court-forced-us-to-remove-part-of-a-wikipedia-articles-history-heres-what-that-means/
Indian Wikipedian community is very very keen on expenditure, especially wherever they feel that some wrong expenditure is made (not just by Indian organisation but even when WMF money is spent) They become very very concerned about it and become very vocal. Mail thread goes on for months asking for justificaiton of such expenditure.(eg. check here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2018-July/013400.html) Hardly anyone from WMF/AFFCOM comment on it. Compared to that, when India chapter is not spending any money and doing all zero budget activities, what could be the problem with it for the community or AFFCOM or WMF. Actually they should appriciate and should be happy about saving lots of money and still doing activities.
The closure of India chapter topic comes up again and again and some lengthy discussions happen on it. I am referring to one such mail thread a few years back and specificaly want WMF people to read my comment that time in a reply to Gerard Meijssen. Please check it out here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-September/011563.html
Now that AFFCOM is showing so much concern about the India activities, it will be better if they can tell us (the stake holders in this- Indian Wikipedians, volunteers, current and past WMIN EC members and general WMIN members) the comparision of performance of affiliates in India namely WMIN and CIS-A2K. What is the expenditure on various activities, paid staff etc etc. And give us a clear understanding of where the real objection is. I suppose this should be with reference to the contract between WMF and WMIN. I read the contract document again some time back and could hardly see any possible serious violation of the contract that AFFCOM is referring to.

Sudhanwa (talk) 20:58, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Additional information from the Affiliations CommitteeEdit

There have been a number of requests from different members of the Indian Wikimedia community–both posted here and communicated privately to the Affiliations Committee–that we share more information regarding our reasons for suspending and ultimately revoking Wikimedia India's status as a chapter, and the implications for other groups and individual members of the Indian Wikimedia community giving forward.

The suspension (and subsequent revocation) were based on concerns about Wikimedia India’s compliance with several standard chapter requirements, including legal structure, open governance, active contributor involvement, capacity, and organizational best practices. These concerns reflect a combination of concerns identified during routine assessments of Wikimedia India’s reporting and compliance by the Affiliations Committee and the Wikimedia Foundation, and of concerns specifically raised by members of the Indian Wikimedia community in various forums.

The Notice of Suspension sent to the Wikimedia India Executive Committee in November 2018 identified these concerns in detail, and provided a list of specific steps that Wikimedia India needed to take in order to lift the suspension, including providing action plans showing how Wikimedia India would resolve any concerns that remained open. These detailed concerns are outlined in the table below.

While the Wikimedia India Executive Committee has attempted to respond to some (but not all) of the concerns identified in the Notice of Suspension, it has in most cases not given us either (a) documentation showing that the concern was unfounded or has already been resolved or (b) an action plan showing how the concern would be resolved in the future. After receiving initial responses from the Wikimedia India Executive Committee, the Affiliations Committee hosted a group call with the Wikimedia India Executive Committee in April 2019 to review each area of concern in detail and to clarify the specific documentation or action plan required to address each one. Despite this, we did not receive the information we requested by the June 14 deadline for making a final decision on revocation.

Concerns Regarding Legal Structure
Concern Wikimedia India Response Requested Deliverables Status of Deliverables
The Affiliations Committee expressed a concern that Wikimedia India has not obtained either 12A non-profit tax status or an FCRA license, and appears to have no plan to do so. In a March 2019 email, the Wikimedia India Executive Committee stated that it “cannot provide a tentative timeline to resolve issues on government licenses pertaining to 12A and FCRA”, but that “attaining the two licenses are of utmost priority and most of the efforts are spent there at the moment”. During the April 2019 call, the Affiliations Committee requested that the Wikimedia India Executive Committee submit (1) documentation demonstrating Wikimedia India’s current non-profit registration status and (2) an action plan that describes how Wikimedia India will work towards obtaining the 12A and FCRA licenses in the future. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee has not submitted the requested documentation or the requested action plan.
Concerns Regarding Open Governance
Concern Wikimedia India Response Requested Deliverables Status of Deliverables
The Affiliations Committee expressed a concern that the requirement for members to be physically present at a general assembly excludes members or potential members who do not live in certain cities or do not have the means and flexibility to travel and to take time away from work. n a March 2019 email, the Wikimedia India Executive Committee stated that “requirements to be physically at the assembly is a prerequisite of the government laws and regulations and outside any control of the Wikimedia Chapter”.

In response to questions raised by the Affiliations Committee during the April 2019 call, the Wikimedia India Executive Committee clarified its earlier response to state that delegate (proxy) voting by mail was permissible.

During the April 2019 call, the Affiliations Committee requested that the Wikimedia India Executive Committee submit (1) documentation demonstrating how Wikimedia India used delegate (proxy) voting. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee has not submitted the requested documentation.
The Affiliations Committee expressed a concern that new members of Wikimedia India appear to be recruited primarily through connections with existing university programs rather than through open community participation. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee has not responded to this concern.
Concerns Regarding Open Active Contributor Involvement
Concern Wikimedia India Response Requested Deliverables Status of Deliverables
The Affiliations Committee expressed a concern that Wikimedia India appears to lack a broad membership base, as well as broad community support and involvement in general. In a March 2019 email, the Wikimedia India Executive Committee stated that Wikimedia India “abides to the principal of fairness and transparency and the list of members are always updated before the elections along with their city” and that the Executive Committee “can share the list of present members along with their usernames”. During the April 2019 call, the Affiliations Committee requested that the Wikimedia India Executive Committee submit (1) documentation demonstrating that Wikimedia India has at least 20 active contributors as members and (2) documentation demonstrating that Wikimedia India has a process for involving a broad and diverse membership base in its activities. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee has not submitted the requested documentation.
Concerns Regarding Capacity
Concern Wikimedia India Response Requested Deliverables Status of Deliverables
The Affiliations Committee expressed a concern that Wikimedia India does not appear to be effectively planning and leading programs and partnerships, and that it has not demonstrated the capacity and ability for collaboration necessary to do so. In December 2018, the Wikimedia India Executive Committee submitted Wikimedia India's annual activities report, which had been overdue since July 2018. This report included information about certain programs carried out by Wikimedia India; however, some of these programs do not appear to have been completed in a timely manner, possibly as a result of insufficient capacity.

The Wikimedia India Executive Committee has not responded regarding Wikimedia India's ability for collaboration.

During the April 2019 call, the Affiliations Committee requested that the Wikimedia India Executive Committee submit (1) an action plan that describes how Wikimedia India will ensure that it has sufficient capacity to implement programs in a timely manner before committing to them in the future. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee has not submitted the requested action plan.
The Affiliations Committee expressed a concern that, based on repeated failures to submit on-time reports to the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia India appears to lack capacity for the basic reporting required to maintain legal status and compliance with its chapter agreement. In a December 2018 email, the Wikimedia India Executive Committee stated that the failures to submit on-time reports were the result of delays imposed by the government.

In response to questions raised by the Affiliations Committee during the April 2019 call, the Wikimedia India Executive Committee clarified that Wikimedia India was compliant with reporting deadlines within its local jurisdiction, but that those deadlines were not aligned with the deadlines for submitting reports to the Wikimedia Foundation.

During the April 2019 call, the Affiliations Committee requested that the Wikimedia India Executive Committee submit (1) an action plan that describes how Wikimedia India will ensure timely reporting to the Wikimedia Foundation in the future. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee has not submitted the requested action plan.
Concerns Regarding Organizational Best Practices
Concern Wikimedia India Response Requested Deliverables Status of Deliverables
The Affiliations Committee expressed a concern that Wikimedia India was not following the organizational best practices published by the Wikimedia Foundation, particularly in the areas of governance, transparency, and assessment. The Wikimedia India Executive Committee had not responded to this concern prior to the April 2019 call. During the call, the Affiliations Committee reiterated this concern, and clarified that it was not limited to the lack of annual plans and the repeated failure to submit on-time reports.

The Wikimedia India Executive Committee ultimately submitted a response on June 4, 2019.

As we have previously stated, both publicly and directly to the Wikimedia India Executive Committee, the revocation notice is not negotiable, and the action will not be undone. The window for Wikimedia India to demonstrate its capacity and compliance was between December 2018 and May 2019, and the chapter unfortunately failed to do so. At this time, the only path forward is for the Indian Wikimedia community to work together to develop a strategy and action plan for regaining affiliation.

There are a number of other, more specific questions that have been raised by the Indian Wikimedia community; for the sake of brevity, we’ve provided answers to these additional questions, as well as some brief FAQ responses, below.

Question Answer
Why was Wikimedia India suspended? The suspension (and subsequent revocation) were based on concerns regarding Wikimedia India's compliance with chapter requirements in the areas of legal structure, open governance, active contributor involvement, capacity, and organizational best practices. These concerns were detailed in the November 2018 Notice of Suspension sent to the Wikimedia India Executive Committeee.
What was required of Wikimedia India to lift the suspension? (1) By December 1, 2019, Wikimedia India was to submit their overdue chapter activities and financial reporting.

(2) By January 15, 2019, Wikimedia India was to submit an Action Plan for returning to full compliance, including a timeline for completion.

(3) By January 15, 2019, Wikimedia India was to submit a plan, via email or posted online, demonstrating how the chapter meets the specific chapter requirements outlined. If the chapter does not currently meet the requirements, they were to provide a plan and timeline for how to address these issues before June.

(4) By May 1, 2019, Wikimedia India was to demonstrate that it is following the Wikimedia Foundation Board’s recommendations for organizational best practices.

Is the revocation decision final? Yes. As stated in the Notice of Suspension sent to the Wikimedia India Executive Committee on November 10, 2018, the window for demonstrating Wikimedia India’s capacity and compliance was between December 2018 and May 2019.
Why did the revocation decision have to be made in June? Certain forms of the agreement between the Wikimedia Foundation and each Wikimedia Chapter only allow the agreement to be canceled once per year, 90 days prior to the anniversary of its signing. If a notice of revocation is not sent to the Wikimedia Chapter by that deadline, the agreement automatically renews for another year, and there is no further opportunity to cancel it until the following year. As the anniversary of Wikimedia India's chapter agreement occurs in September, it was impossible to delay the decision on revocation beyond June.
Wikimedia India is no longer eligible for grants at this time. What does that mean for individual community members? While Wikimedia India as an organization is no longer eligible to receive grants from the Wikimedia Foundation, the Wikimedia Foundation welcomes requests for support from other individuals and groups in India.
Can individuals from Wikimedia India apply for recognition as a new Wikimedia User Group? Yes. We encourage members of Wikimedia India to consider joining existing Wikimedia User Groups in India, or to work together to reorganize as a new Wikimedia User Group. However, the specific individuals who are part of the Wikimedia India Executive Committee will be prohibited from serving as the primary contacts of any Wikimedia affiliate for a period of one year following the de-recognition of Wikimedia India on September 14, 2019.
Is the Affiliations Committee available to meet with members of the Indian Wikimedia community? The Affiliations Committee has repeatedly encouraged the Wikimedia India Executive Committee to schedule a call to discuss potential ways to move forward. The Affiliations Committee similarly welcomes requests for meetings from other groups in India if they believe that a call would be helpful for coordinating potential next steps. Several members of the Affiliations Committee will additionally be available to meet at Wikimania.

Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee
02:42, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

"the revocation notice is not negotiable, and the action will not be undone" - Lovely. I wonder what justifies this kind of definitive judgements inside the Wikimedia Movement about one of our affiliates. AffCom seems to have been taken hostage by bureaucratic procedures whose origin is not even clear at all. Why is AffCom acting like that? Who are you serving, acting like that?--- Darwin Ahoy! 13:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Derecognition story in The SignpostEdit

Hello, can anyone comment on this story draft I have for the English Wikipedia community newsletter, The Signpost?

I think that this should be brief because all of this is new to most of the wiki world outside India. The most important feedback is whether any of this seems incorrect or wrong. Beyond that I would appreciate any suggestions.

This gets published in probably 1 days. My apologies for late notice. Blue Rasberry (talk) 11:32, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Title of blurb - "no money to India"Edit

Someone privately emailed me asking about the appropriateness of my titling the article, "No more Wikimedia grants for travel, equipment, meetups, or India". The issue is that people in India can still apply for grants, and that the derecognition of the India chapter does not mandate a reduction in grant funding to India as a region.

While I agree that people in India are technically able to apply for grants I think the reality is that without a community chapter the practical outcome is the barrier to applying for grants increases greatly. The presence of strong regional Wikimedia community organizations is an indication of the robustness of regional community organization, and chapters are a benefit to local community organization. I think that saying "no grants to India" explains the situation with the right amount of precision for human readers of a news headline. From an accounting and numbers perspective, the some small amount of money does go to India and those others. News headlines have to compromise in making accessible communication versus being precise in more contexts.

I think saying "no grants to India" is generally correct in the context of the many other gaps in information in this space.

Here is some data which I think does not exist in any publication -

  1. amount of money which the WMF invests in India
  2. if the total amount were known, identify (1) amount managed by non-community (2) amount managed by community
  3. the target amount of funding which the WMF wishes to invest in India

If I threw a number out, I would say that India merits investment of about US$1 million a year right now, and a plan to increase that funding to 1/6 of total available WMF funds (US$115 million) since India is 1/6 of the world's population. I am not sure - because the data is spotty - but I think that the total money going to India in 2018 is something like US$500,000, and the total money to community for 2018 is something like $100,000. Of that $100,000, probably half of it is travel scholarships.

If the total money going to the Wikimedia community for programs in India is about $50,000, then I think that it is fair for me to say that the Wikimedia community volunteers in India are cut off from WMF funding. I am ready to admit that I am greatly lacking in information but so far as I know, so is everyone else.

I would love for someone to correct me with the financial report on India. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:35, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

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