Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Mobile and apps/Categories in mobile app

Categories in mobile app

  • Problem: Currently categories are only visible to readers when using the Wikipedia website. Mobile app users can't see the categories that articles have been placed in, or browse through the attached categories. When they are also visible in the app they could make for instance some Wikipedia lists abundant. Benefit from that is this would lower the amount of pages that have to be maintained with recent information.
  • Proposed solution: Display the categories that a page belongs to and allow readers to browse to those categories.
  • Who would benefit: Readers, community and Wikipedians using the Wikipedia mobile application.
  • More comments: Because of issues with Parsoid and/or the Mobile Content Service, readers may have to view category pages in the mobile web version, but still within the app. This is similar to what happens when viewing the history of the page, etc.
  • Phabricator tickets: task T73966, task T153980
  • Proposer: Melvinvk (talk) 01:20, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Actually, it is not smart placing the same proposal in two places. What will end up happening is the votes will split between the two proposals.--Snævar (talk) 03:07, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
    And thus they should be added, where's the problem? This ain't no bot-project but one with real, living persons in charge. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 08:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • I hope they see this as one proposal. I didn’t know what categorie my proposal would best fit in. So I put them in both. Melvinvk (talk) 09:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Sorry, proposals can only be in one category. It's a technical limitation but I hope we can fix this for future surveys. I believe this category is the more appropriate one. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 20:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Copied from duplicate proposal:

  • I think that this would be a helpful addition.Dunutubble (talk) 23:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  • I fully support this. There are multiple times I've had to load a page in my mobile browser and switch to dekstop view to access the categories. Thryduulf (talk: meta · en.wp · wikidata) 01:48, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • While these can already be enabled if you're logged in, I find it to be more convenient to have them enabled by default if you're not logged in. I fully support this. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 02:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
    How do you enable them? I am logged in within the application, but on the bottom it shows read more and I have to switch to desktop view. I also don’t see an option in the settings of the app. Melvinvk (talk) 02:22, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
    They are not even in the mobile version for the browser, let alone the app while I'm logged in. Where am I supposed to mark a box to see them? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 08:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
    Settings -> Advanced mode (mobile web). —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 12:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
    Helemaal bedankt!   Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 13:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
    But (niet alleen voor jou) why, for f* sake, are there separate settings for my only account, why isn't this anywhere in my normal settings, where all such stuff belongs by default? That are my settings, everything that's not there is in an invalid place. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 16:17, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Categories belong there, at least for logged in users they should be available in all apps, be it classical browser, .m.-browser or app. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 08:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Fully support this. I've never understood why they're not there by default. Pichpich (talk) 20:04, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Noting that the linked Phab tasks are only about the Android app. No tasks appear to have been created for the iOS app, however I assume it faces the same problem. That is, displaying the categories that a page belongs to is not difficult, but category pages don't themselves render properly in the app due to issues with Parsoid and Mobile Content Service (phab:T153980). So I think this proposal is OK to move forward, so long as voters know you'll be seeing the mobile web rendering of category pages. I have tweaked the proposal wording to make this more clear, which I hope is okay. I have just one concern: @Melvinvk: What do you mean when you say When they are also visible in the app they could make for instance some Wikipedia lists abundant. Benefit from that is this would lower the amount of pages that have to be maintained with recent information.? Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 22:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
    It's about the app, regardless wich flavour of OS it run on. There is only the app running on different mobile devices, those subtleties should have no relevance for the fixing of bugs. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 05:11, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
    "Those subtleties" matter when they start from entirely different programming languages between the three ways someone could see something on mobile (i.e. web, Android, and iOS). Izno (talk) 06:19, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
    Ain't iOS and Android just some different flavours of Linux? So just KISS, and don't customize too much. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 06:53, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
    No. Izno (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Hey everyone, thanks for this rich discussion. One of the Android engineers built a prototype for displaying categories. Our designer will have a look at it once he can get through some of our talk page feature work. I expect us to have something out by June 2022 at the absolute latest. I can't speak for iOS but will definitely coordinate with them so it is easy for them to bring in the feature when the team has capacity. All that to say this is on the Android's team radar (and on our phabricator board). Please keep sharing your ideas of how you'd like categories to show up, and if you feel so inclined collaborate with us on Phab task T73966. Thanks again! JTanner (WMF) (talk) 15:46, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
  • I think categories should be made by the app developers, and waiting approval by Google and Apple. At this time it could mean for a bad way of viewing categories, but browsing categories, I think it's still possible. Thingofme (talk) 09:48, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Voting

  •   Support - One of the two things I wanted in mobile MrMeAndMrMeLet's talk 18:25, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support There are quite a few things that are hidden on mobile that really shouldn't be, this included (others include links to sister projects, and navigational templates). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support * Pppery * it has begun 18:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Gfombell (talk) 18:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support --Arnd (talk) 19:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support --MSY-07 (talk) 20:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support agreed Aboudaqn (talk) 20:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Vis M (talk) 20:49, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 21:51, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Javiermes (talk) 22:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support categories as main structural element in WP should receive more attention --Albinfo (talk) 00:08, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support DonBarredora (talk) 00:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support --𝑇𝑚𝑣 (𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘) 01:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Betseg (talk) 02:11, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Shizhao (talk) 03:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Jake The Great 908 (talk) 06:15, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Absolutely critical for Commons in particular. The Commons mobile site is totally unnavigable because of this - you can go from a category to its subcategory, but not vice versa. This, that and the other (talk) 08:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support I would expand this to display templates on mobile as well, so we wouldn't have to switch to a desktop view as frequently. Respublik (talk) 08:56, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Categories have an enormous importance as one of the basic structural elements of a wiki. Unless we're changing to tag system or something like that anytime soon, they should be supported on mobile. Meiræ 12:01, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Ohne Kats ist das nur eine dumbed-down, nicht vollwertige Seite. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 12:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Aca (talk) 13:51, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   SupportSHEIKH (Talk) 14:18, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Pichpich (talk) 14:54, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Sbwoodside (talk) 15:33, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support MdsShakil (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Matěj Suchánek (talk) 17:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Lectrician1 (talk) 07:30, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support OwenBlacker (Talk) 10:42, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Baah Thomas (talk) 13:02, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support«« Man77 »» [de] 13:31, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support--L736Etell me 15:14, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support The lack of categories is the reason I don't use the WP app. Libcub (talk) 22:39, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support JPxG (talk) 00:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support NaBUru38 (talk) 13:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support JAn Dudík (talk) 21:05, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support More and more people are editing Wikipedia in mobile. Thingofme (talk) 02:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Horza (talk) 10:40, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support DerFussi 20:00, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Daniel Case (talk) 23:14, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support KingAntenor (talk) 06:42, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Note that categories have to be added on the mobile web and app. Serg!o (talk) 11:23, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Sabelöga (talk) 15:04, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Hampcky (talk) 15:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support — MrDolomite • Talk 05:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Aimwin66166 (talk) 06:13, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Paucabot (talk) 15:27, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Syced (talk) 09:26, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support BaaBaaTheSheep (talk) 09:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support - Darwin Ahoy! 20:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support: I'm no fan of categories, but this missing mobile functionality is ridiculous. I'm persuaded by the inconvenience it causes editors, particularly on Commons. — Bilorv (talk) 21:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support I strongly agree with this – This would be very helpful for readers. Dunutubble (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support —— Eric LiuTalk 06:31, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Tomastvivlaren (talk) 08:50, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   SupportKPFC💬 11:20, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support As a CFD regular, this is one reason I don't use the mobile app. Fayenatic london (talk) 14:40, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support--Vulp❯❯❯here! 05:38, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Ayumu Ozaki (talk) 07:53, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Oppose --Ciao • Bestoernesto 16:31, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Toadspike (talk) 01:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support β16 - (talk) 09:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support paul2520 (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Tom Ja (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Matthew T Rader (talk) 20:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support ~Cybularny Speak? 21:05, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Suonii180 (talk) 19:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   SupportDaxServer (t · c) 20:02, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Rots61 (talk) 22:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support BugWarp (talk) 00:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support If categories are supposed to aid readers' navigation, they should be accessible to mobile readers as well, not just (registered) editors. ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    10:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support This feature needs not only the app, also on the mobile site. --Mario1257 (talk) 12:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Havarhen (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Betateschter (talk) 06:44, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Jl sg (talk) 09:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support This idea is great. Sebastianleroy (talk) 09:18, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Deinocheirus (talk) 16:25, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Def2010 (talk) 16:46, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support as per above. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 17:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  •   Support Ivandemidov (talk) 17:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)