Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Wikidata/Edit Wikidata in a map!

Edit Wikidata in a map!

  • Problem: Wikidata are great, but editing them requires still quite some knowledge of stuff like SPARQL etc. This makes the whole project less accessible to others. Everyone knows a map. Why can't we just fork a tool like Wikishootme so the users could edit the items directly in a map? Sure, not all items are geography-related but many are. Wikishootme is great for adding images. Now imagine that instead of adding images we could add other data.
  • Who would benefit: Wikidata community, Wikidata newbies.
  • Proposed solution: Forking Wikishootme and making it more versatile. Using the concept of adding a string to P18 in a window in the map for other properties.
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  • Proposer: Aktron (talk) 10:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Just daydreaming here, but it would be awesome to have a fork of the OSM iD editor that would allow editing OSM and Wikidata simultaneously. NMaia (talk) 03:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
    Now we're cooking with fire. --Izno (talk) 05:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
    Great idea! Watty62 (talk) 14:35, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • First step should be "create item here", which automatically fills coordinates, country and asks for P31, P18 etc.
    • Second step should be connecting with shapes on commons and automatically filling P131
    • Every item with coordinates should have P31, P18, P131, P373... JAn Dudík (talk) 15:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
    • Well yes. Wikishootme can create an item from the map – and that is a very good start! But everything else has to be inserted in Wikidata and that kinda breaks the process. The first step just makes a blank item with coordinates only. We should move further than that. Aktron (talk) 15:24, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I like this splendid idea. Reverse the application logic: start from a map to create and populate an item, instead of clumsily searching an item, and manually adding coordinates as a property of an item via copy/paste of geocoordinates. Only (major) problem: the tool should properly identify if an item does not exist, or does not have yet coordinates (P625) in order to avoid duplicates. Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) (talk) 14:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
      • But then again if you'd see the item on the map ALREADY then you'd most likely avoid making a duplicate one. So another point for a map editor! Aktron (talk) 15:24, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
  • I like this daydream ;) but: a nightmare would be easily done vandalizm and controlling that could be quite difficult I imagine... Of course only one thing could help a bit: people wanting to edit via map should have accounts both on OSM AND Wikidata/Wikipedia. --katpatuka (talk) 05:01, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Addition: there are lots of places in osm lacking wikidata tag and the same places in WD lacking coordinates! In OSM's josm editor there's the wikipedia plugin which simplifies linking OSM objects to WD/WP data - so a sort of inverse synchronization tool/gadget for WD simplifying linking WD objects to OSM objects would be really useful --katpatuka (talk) 05:31, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Sounds good! Maybe there's a connection to the Wikidata Bridge project. There are definitely a lot of Wikidata items that still need coordinates adding to them, though, e.g., commons:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no coordinate... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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