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Notificación de traducción: ContribuLing 2023

Hola, MarcoAurelio:

Has recibido esta notificación porque te inscribiste como traductor de español en Meta. La página ContribuLing 2023 está disponible para su traducción. Puedes traducirla aquí:

• traducir al español

La fecha límite para la traducción de esta página es 2023-02-28.

ContribuLing is a Wikimedia event focusing on collaborative tools and minority languages.

Please consider translating the page and - why not - proposing a presentation or a workshop!

Thank you very much, on behalf of the organizing committee

Agradecemos enormemente tu ayuda. Traductores como tú hacen que Meta funcione como una verdadera comunidad multilingüe.

Puedes cambiar tus preferencias de notificación.

¡Gracias!

Los coordinadores de traducción de Meta‎, 10:16, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Mitchell Haynes another one

Can you glock User:Mitchell Haynes Cannabis aswell. Terasail^[✉️] 22:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

@Terasail: Done, thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 22:16, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Request

A few days back I had nominated a user, but he has not yet received a reply.

विकिपीडिया:रोलबैकर्स अधिकार हेतु निवेदन Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 08:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello @मनीष पँवार: Thanks for your message. As far as I can see @Aviram7's candidacy is for rollback rights, which can be granted and removed locally by hi.wikipedia administrators. Any user from this list should be able to close the nomination and grant him access. Sincerely, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Many days passed but no one came here to pay attention. And this user has also got support.@Aviram7 Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 15:11, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello @मनीष पँवार: According to https://meta.toolforge.org/stewardry/hiwiki @संजीव कुमार has edited today and @SM7 did edit a couple of days ago. Could you please message them on their talk pages and ask them to close that request? Since hi.wikipedia has active local administrators, and this is not an emergency, stewards cannot assign local rights there per our policy. Sincerely, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @MarcoAurelio Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 15:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

MAbot's category redirect task seems to have stopped running

Last edit to User:MABot/category redirect log was January 1, 2023. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 02:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Pppery. I did some cleanup on the bot configuration and left this task out for later. Thanks for reminding me. I'll reconfigure it later today. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:52, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Done. Ran & cronned to run once per month. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:24, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Unblock IP address

Hello, My IP address was blocked by you (open proxy or something like that). I'm trying to sent you email but you don't accepted emails at this moments. So, I called the other administrator. My IP address is 107.178.32.0/20. Ariandi Lie (talk) 17:03, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

I hope you can unblock my IP address. Because I can't join #UCDMonth. Thanks. Ariandi Lie (talk) 17:08, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Ariandi Lie - I was approached by @MF-Warburg regarding your issue today. You can edit already, otherwise you couldn't have posted a message on my talk page. If you are still having problems, please let me know. In any case, the IP range you mention is identified as belonging to a open proxy, which are regularly blocked per policy. If you use any proxy or VPN service, disconnecting from them would allow you to resume editting. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 17:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Add

Can you add me to your list too? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by मनीष पँवार (talk) 12:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not understand your question. Which list? —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Can you add me to white list? Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 14:38, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello @मनीष पँवार - I am sorry but I still do not understand your question. Which whitelist are you talking about? Is it on-wiki? Can you link to it? Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:46, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Please add me in the Global trusted user tag Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 15:38, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Countervandalism Network/Channels Please add my name in the cvn whitelist Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 13:03, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio Please see here also sir. MP1999 ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 14:05, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@मनीष पँवार & MP1999: Hello. Any voiced user in any #cvn-* channel can add you to the whitelist if they know you. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:48, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank You Sir/Madam MP1999 ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 16:30, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Meta:Administrators/Removal/row

Hope you don't mind. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 15:34, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

@Minorax: I don't mind. I created it as a subpage of the current round because as an experiement. If people find if useful and looks visually good, I think we can keep using it for the next inactivity checks, else return to the old syntax. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:47, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Review

MarcoAurelio, Hello, Please can you review on Meta:RFH if you have enough time ;My request is pending from 4 days. Kind regards →ÀvîRâm7^(talk) 02:58, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello. There are already two administrators reviewing your request, so I shall give them the courtesy to decide what to do with it. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reply,My request is pending on Meta:RFH, i waiting for reply second admin.Kind regards →ÀvîRâm7^(talk) 03:31, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Survey wikipedia

@MarcoAurelio thank you for the feedback!

The survey will be available also in Spanish if you want to have a look: https://questionnaires.marsouin.org/index.php/148792 Jullienn (talk) 13:20, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

IRC Channel invite/access

Hi, MarcoAurelio. Nice to see you again.. and asking things to you :)

When you have the opportunity, could you please invite me or otherwise grant me access to #wikimedia-admin channel? My own cloak is wikimedia/M7.

Thank you, M/ (talk) 15:40, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Ciao, @M/: I'm afraid I no longer have access to that IRC channel (for some years), and I don't know either who may be able to add you. Both IRC/wikimedia-admin and IRC/wikimedia-admin/User list feel very outdated. I suggest you ask in #wikimedia-ops for access, since Talk:IRC/wikimedia-admin/User list appears no longer monitored either. I hope that helps. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:13, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Grazie. I'll try. Ciao, M/ (talk) 13:18, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Request

Hi @MarcoAurelio, could you grant autopatrolled to Owais Al Qarni so that I don't have to keep patrolling his edits made on Deoband Community Wikimedia/Proposals/February-July 2023. Regards, ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 13:29, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@TheAafi: Done, best regards. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 09:30, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Withdraw your "Amendment proposal (April 2023)" or not?

This section:

1. isn't located within Meta:RFC which doesn't look like formal, so that many people don't know what you proposed
2. Currently got 5 support and 5 oppose votes, they don't seem to have any consensus reached
3. Affects only one small part of the currently look-bad policy section (as far as I know, I was proposed a larger modification, but you opposed and hence "no consensus")

In any cases, discussing modification to a policy only at talk page is realllll(65535*l)ly a bad idea, and such actions shall be dropped in the future. From my view, it's recommend to start a new Meta:RFC to discuss larger-and-larger modifications of that policy section. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, but where is the need to write such a condescending comment? Policy changes have always been discussed on policy talk pages. There is no need to always exaggerate things by saying "there needs to be a formal RFC". The proposed change is indeed a minor modification, and not about completely changing the way we choose administrators. Also, why should MA withdraw his proposal just because it didn't get overwhelming support? This seems to be somewhat of a fashion nowadays (to open a big RFC, get some opposes and then retract everything just to make even more proposals), but it doesn't mean that it's a good practice. --MF-W 08:18, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

+1, relatively minor policy changes don't need a RFC. Some examples for successful talk page proposals [1][2]. Johannnes89 (talk) 08:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @MF-Warburg and @Johannnes89 for your input. I must say, I am sadly not surprised by this misguided provocation from @Liuxinyu970226, given his most recent actions and behaviour. See e.g. his comments and later replies at that very proposal, or Meta:Babel § Template:Proposed logo (permalink) where he's making random, unhepful comments about the matter. Or Meta:Requests for CheckUser information/Archives/2023 where he goes on accusing a number of users of violating a WMF Ban. It's absolutely ludicrous that he affirms that "many people don't know what [I] proposed" when he seems to be the one clearly not understanding. I've been trying to assume good faith, but this is starting to wear thin.

To answer the above:

• Proposal: No, I am not withdrawing my proposal. I remain convinced that giving 7 days of notice is too few and leads to unfair removals. This is a serious, valid and legitimate reason, specially since as a bureaucrat myself I am tasked with enforcing said policy. If the community feels otherwise, that's absolutely fine. People is free to propose any period they feel appropriate if they want a change, or oppose if they want to keep 7 days.
• RFC: Meta-Wiki policies have been amended through talk page discussions for as long as I remember (see one of the latest proposals), so long they are duly advertised, as has been the case here. In addition:
  • i) This is not either an "issue of wider significance", as stated on that very page
  • ii) I am very well aware of Meta:Requests for comment considering that I did create the local process myself.
  • iii) The proposal is all the serious it can be. People seem to be very well aware of what's being discussed there, and has been duly advertised (archived notice, active notice).
• Votes: consensus is not a matter of simply counting votes, and it's not up to me to close the proposal anyway.
• Your third point makes no sense and fully invalidates your "complaint". If you say my proposal "affects only one small part" of the policy, then it's not an issue of wider significance what would require an RFC.

As others have told you already, please try to familiarise yourself with Meta-Wiki policy and governance before trying to lecture others about it. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

The above has resulted in more nonsense posted to my Commons talk page: a deletion notification for a file which I did not uploaded or authored, but simply moved 2 years ago. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS

Dear interface administrator,

This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well.

There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed Third-party resources policy aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability.

As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the policy talk page.

Have a great day!

Samuel (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Security team 12:08, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Question about your self-revert at GR (special:diff/18799605)

Hello, I found that you once changed GR as a disambiguation page, but then reverted your own edit. If possible, may I ask the reason for this self-revert decision? I think GR should be a disambiguation page. There is not only global rollback/rename, but also global replace from Wikimedia Commons (c:Commons:GlobalReplace), and I also found Global Reach. What would you think about this? I'm sorry to bother you, but I'm looking forward to hear from you. MathXplore (talk) 08:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello @MathXplore: I've been trying but can't remember what reason motivated my self revert back then. I don't see anything in my talk page archives either. No objections from my part if you wish to turn that page into a disambiguation one if you think it'd be useful. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 08:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

I have been able to change the email. Just to close the loop, confirming it was me! Thanks - MarcGarver (talk) 08:10, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@MarcGarver: Thank you, I can see the email changed in the interface as well. Please let me know if there are any issues. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:19, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Global bot flag request for Lingua Libre Bot

Apologies for sending this message solely in English. Please help translate to your language.

Hello,

This is a notice pursuant the global bot policy, to inform you that Lingua Libre Bot is requesting approval to operate as a global bot.

The discussion can be found at Steward requests/Bot status in Meta-Wiki. All Wikimedia Community members can participate in the discussion if they so wish.

Thank you.

You are receiving this message because this page is listed in the list of pages to notify about new global bot discussions. If you no longer wish to be notified, you may remove this page from that list at any time.

--MA (talk) 11:04, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

M5/looks useless

Hey there. With M5, are admins allowed to delete pages that were tagged by themselves for 60 days? I only ask, because this is not something that is mentioned in policy - I would prefer my own requests to be looked at by another admin before deleting. Is this something we would want to address in policy? Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 23:09, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Ferien. I agree it'd be preferable not to delete pages we tagged as {{looks useless}} ourselves, mostly per Meta:Administrators § Involved administrators and because what is or is not useless is kind of subjective. These days I'm mostly nominating these kind of pages at Meta:Requests for deletion, which reduces the likelyhood of inadvertently deleting a page you tagged yourself. As for the policy change, I'd say not for now, unless admins are regularly M5 pages they themselves tagged. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Ah, the involved admin part of the admins policy already addresses it. Thanks for your response :) --Ferien (talk) 19:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Re: Mensajes

Hola, pido disculpas por el despiste ¿puedes borrarlos? Estaba en "modo bot" y no me di cuenta- Saludos, Laura Fiorucci (talk) 18:15, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Not an admin anymore

Hi MA! That's okay, I struggle to stay active, so it's more than understandable that my rights are removed. One question though: could you please change the protections settings of my userpage from sysop-only to autoconfirmed so that I can edit it again? :-) Thank you! Trijnstel_talk 09:29, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Done --M/ (talk) 09:35, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Trijnstel and @M7: Sorry, but I've been out of town. I'm glad this has been addressed in the meanwhile, although it'd have been better not to lose you as a sysop :-) Hope that everything is okay. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 16:52, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, no worries! Just busy personal life. :-) Trijnstel_talk 09:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

No puedo ejercer el derecho de defensa en WP en aragonés

Hola, MarcoAurelio. He visto que eres steward y te contacto a ti y a Hasley por si uno de los dos o ambos podéis arreglar este problema. Tiene relación con WP en aragonés, un idioma que un hablante nativo de español peninsular puede entender (yo soy filólogo y hablo 7 idiomas, por lo que puedo ayudaros a traducir lo que no entendáis; los administradores de esa WP pueden ayudaros también, aunque desconozco su disposición).

1. Hace dos años manifesté en WP en aragonés mi oposición a que se usaran en esa wiki una categoría de imágenes no libres que su autor concedía para usarse solo en WP en aragonés, aduciendo yo que se trataba de una licencia nacionalista y por tanto contraria a los principios humanistas (estos es, universalistas) de Wikipedia. Cuatro administradores se opusieron a mi pretensión, incurriendo en algún caso en faltas de etiqueta. Lo dejé pasar.
2. Hace unos días volví a leer esos mensajes y vi que la intervención del administrador Cembo123 (22:40 23 chul 2021) era inaceptablemente ofensiva: «déjame o déjanos (lo que prefieras) aparte de tus rollos mentales y paranoias de confabulaciones y conspiranoias». Haciendo uso de mis derecho como usuario, solicité en el tablón de los bibliotecarios que a) se borrasen las expresiones ofensivas y b) se amonestase al usuario administrador que las profirió. Como se puede comprobar leyéndolas, todas mis intervenciones han sido respetuosas en el fondo y en las formas.
3. Sorprendentemente, la reacción a mi solicitud ha consistido en que el administrador Lázaro d’Aragon me ha bloqueado para siempre en WP:AN aduciendo «comportamiento disruptivo» (bloqueo #2280), explicando su decisión en mi página de discusión. Además, el administrador Cembo123, cuyas ofensas de hace dos años yo había denunciado, las ha reiterado aquí: «tus actuaciones y comentarios en la wikipedia podrían deberse más a un delirio que a una paranoia» (traducción al español mía).
4. En el mensaje que se genera cuando quiero contestar al bloqueo se me indica que mi derecho a la defensa consiste únicamente en que puedo enviar un correo electrónico al administrador que me ha bloqueado o a otro administrador. Sin embargo, no puedo hacerlo porque el bloqueo incluye la imposibilidad física de enviar ningún correo electrónico a ningún usuario.

Por ahora solo pido ayuda para poder ejercer mi derecho de defensa en las condiciones adecuadas, y eso incluye que se cumplan una de estas dos condiciones:

1. Que se active mis permisos de edición para expresar mis alegaciones al bloqueo de manera pública, en mi página de usuario y/o en la página del tablón en la que se publica la acusación contra mí. El bloqueo y los motivos por los que se aplica están a la vista de todos e incluyen acusaciones (aunque infundadas en este caso) denigratorias contra mi persona. Por lógica, la defensa debe ser pública, y no dirigida por un email privado a un solo administrador: la publicidad es una de las normas que garantizan la justicia. Estoy seguro, además, de que la defensa del derecho al honor que se aplica en la legislación norteamericana por la que se rigen los proyectos de Wikimedia contemplan esta garantía.
2. En el peor de los casos, solicito que se activen mis permisos para enviar un correo privado a uno de los administradores. A pesar de que considero que este procedimiento es lesivo para mi derecho a la defensa, estoy dispuesto a cumplir los procedimientos establecidos en WP:AN con vistas a ejercer, más adelante, otras acciones sin que pueda reprochárseme no haber agotado previamente las posibilidades de defensa que ofrecen los cauces establecidos.

Aunque obviamente considero que el bloqueo es injusto, quiero dejar claro que en este mensaje solo pido ayuda para ejercer el derecho de defensa. Es de esperar que, una vez lo ejerza, un administrador de WP:AN arreglará todo lo que se ha hecho mal.

Muchas gracias. Quedo a la espera de tu respuesta. Si tu rol de steward no incluye realizar estas tareas, te agradeceré que me orientes sobre qué procedimiento seguir. Pompilos (talk) 16:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Hola, MarcoAurelio. Como no quería esperar mucho para resolver este problema, y no tengo claro que la reclamación se competencia de los stewards, he planteado el problema en la sección Request for comment: Permanently blocked in WP in Aragonese… De todas formas, agradecería tu intervención, más autorizada en la medida en que conoces los procedimientos que se usan en WP. Un cordial saludo. Pompilos (talk) 18:34, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Please note...

Hi! Maybe my ping has not worked... Please note. Kaganer (talk) 12:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)