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Approval of Manchu WikipediaEdit

Hello. The Manchu Wikipedia looks well. It has been active for nearly one year and with most core messages being translated. Is there any missing requirement for the final approval?--ᠪᡝ (talk) 01:21, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Fyi, this is still being discussed at their mailing list: [1], no updates for 1.5 months. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello. One of our committee members had a question about using both the Latin script and the Manchu script. The translated core messages are in Latin script, and Latin script and Manchu script are used in both headings and contents on incubator. Could you please explain this to us? --Sotiale (talk) 12:51, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
@Sotiale: Actually, user Chulsu463 has proposed a transcription between Manchu script and Latin script here. If the transcription is adopted, I think it is fine to keep the core message in Latin script, and the separate pages in Latin script and Manchu script will likely be combined into one single page. However, if the transcription is hard to manage, I think keeping the pages separately, like Hakka Wikipedia, is the best choice. (Actually I don't know adopting a conversion in Manchu Wiki is hard or not, as the Latin script uses horizontal direction, while the Manchu script is vertical) Additionally, I can convert the core messages back to Manchu script when it is necessary. --ᠪᡝ (talk) 00:56, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg: I have seen that you may have some questions about the comments above. Please let me clarify a bit: Yes, our community do want a script converter between Manchu and Latin script, but due to the issue that Manchu script is vertical while Latin script is horizontal, we don't know such converter can really be applied or not as it may have problems when showing some infoboxes or templates while changing the script horizontally and vertically. In addition to the issue that the Latin script is not unified so one letter in traditional script may refer to more than one letters in the Latin script (see my talk page and the discussions for some details), it may have difficulties when launching the script converter (as we don't know how a converter works, we don't know the solution for the above issues, so if you think that the above issues are solvable, please let us know and we will be looking forward to the application of the converter!). Due to the uncertainty of the implementation of the script converter, we have decided to remain the status quo first, and remains some articles as separate pages, like the Hakka wikipedia (we are facing similar script issues in some aspects), in case the converter is not workable. (Sorry if you cannot understand the situation more clearly due to my poor English, but I think that the current situation of using both script seems the best solution for the issue, so I hope this will not become an obstacle to considering the approval of Manchu Wikipedia, Thank you.) --Limfurg (talk) 16:23, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Don't worry, I can understand you well. Thanks for the info! --MF-W 13:06, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Classical Mongolian Should probably be rejected as soon as possibleEdit

About this request and its corresponding test wiki, I tried to poke with some incubator:Wp/mvf editors, and responds look like against the existion of cmg, the grammar Wp/cmg one used is having no differents by the Wp/mvf one. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:11, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Good day! Technically, with two valid language codes, people can develop two different wiki projects, no? ripunn   06:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
  Oppose @Ripunn: cite from Special:Diff/21984171: as far as I know, every existing Wikipedia is trying to write an encyclopedia, not "create unique texts, even short ones, which may be helpful for people who deeply involved in linguistics studies". To which forcing you to follow an encyclopedic format would be a disservice; it would prevent various poetry forms, drama, fiction of all sorts, even various forms of non-fiction from being written. You want the cachet of Wikipedia, but your stated goals don't line up with Wikipedia's. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:39, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Why are you copying my text into this completely different context?--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@Prosfilaes: Why different? That user also want to just copy-paste incubator:Wp/mvf contents, to made-up a cmg project, is this behavior appropriate for you? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:33, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Sindarin 2 eligibilityEdit

As "If the proposal is for an artificial language such as Esperanto, it must have a reasonable degree of recognition as determined by discussion.", is there any discussion threads to determine that? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:37, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Start allowing ancient languagesEdit

Hi all, and especially @Amire80, Antony D. Green, Maor X, GerardM, Janwo, Jon Harald Søby, Yupik, MF-Warburg, Evertype, Satdeep Gill, Sotiale, and Vito Genovese: there is an RFC open at Start allowing ancient languages concerning the requirements disallowing Wikis for ancient and historic languages.

Some committee members have engaged, but I am not sure everyone has had the chance to do so yet. Nevertheless, there is now a fairly developed, stable and hopefully sensible suggestion which we would like the Committee to look at. --JimKillock (talk) 18:26, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Actually I stopped following the discussion when it became too circular and repetitive. My opinion on this matter is still the same as I expressed there a few months ago.--✍ Janwo Disk./de:wp 02:35, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@Janwo: Understood. There is no need for further contribution if you don't want to do so there. Howver, there is now a stable proposal for consideration. AIUI LangCom need to make any changes to the policy (the policy is owned by the Committee, not the respondents on Meta). So LangCom needs to consider what is proposed by consensus, and either accept it or reject it, preferably with reasons. Then we can close the RFC.
Like Janwo, I stopped following the "old" discussion at some point. I will however have a look at the "new" state of affairs and try to come up with an appropriate reaction. It might take some time however. --MF-W 12:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
If I have misunderstood what the procedure is here, do let me know --JimKillock (talk) 10:54, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
I've transferred your comments here to the langcom mailing list, but as far as I'm afraid, my cut is again been abstained. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:10, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. --JimKillock (talk) 10:54, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Notification about proposed approval of Lombard WiktionaryEdit

Hi! Langcom intends to approve Lombard Wiktionary. If you have objections to that based on the language proposal policy, please tell us here on this page in the next seven days. Meanwhile, the communities of these projects are asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request pages. --MF-W 18:22, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

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Election of the administrators

The project has been approved. When we can start the election of the administrators?--Gat lombart (talk) 14:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

See incubator:Help:FAQ#How_does_someone_become_admin?. --MF-W 20:30, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Approval of Amis WikipediaEdit

Hello! Amis Wikipedia has been active again since June 2020. And most used core messages are all translated. We would like to propose for the approval. Please help check our project. Thank you. Vickylin77amis (talk) 05:25, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree with you. I have proposed the approval in Langcom. --MF-W 13:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Approval of Paiwan WikipediaEdit

Good day. We proposed a request for approval in July but with no response. In these two months, not only did we keep the project active, we also applied for an user group and did hold some meetups for our community. So we would like to ask again to see if Paiwan Wikipedia can be approved now? Thank you. ripunn   13:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. I have proposed the approval in Langcom. --MF-W 13:15, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Notification about proposed approval of Amis, Paiwan and Talysh WikipediasEdit

Hi! Langcom intends to approve Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Talysh, Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Paiwan and Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Amis. If you have objections to that based on the language proposal policy, please tell us here on this page in the next seven days. Meanwhile, the communities of these projects are asked to check (and if necessary, complete) the wiki settings as indicated on the request pages. --MF-W 14:33, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

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