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Copyvio and other issues at siwikiEdit

Status:    In progress

Hello. Can someone have a look at si:Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Admin access please? As I have been doing on other projects, I'd like to help out with media files on siwiki. I have clearly identified longstanding mass copyvio/licensing issues, and can also understand the language up to a certain extent. But I find the response there (from the only admin) quite peculiar and troubling.

The Sinhala Wikipedia has no bureaucrats, and only 1 active admin. The other two admins should probably be removed due to inactivity, but that's not why I am here. The most active user (if not the only active user), is also the admin themselves.

I'm willing to let this go and focus on other non-siwiki work, but that latest response is not a good sign, and also a sign that other potential admins may have been shooed away in the past. Appreciate if someone knowledgeable in cross-wiki policies can comment on this situation please? Rehman 10:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

The bulk of the vios are from one user, though there are a LOT of them. I would think that our global copyright policy supersedes any sort of local policy. Praxidicae (talk) 13:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
It actually appears to have been a group of students, see also this users uploads which include stock images that are subject to copyright and even has the watermarks... Praxidicae (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, Praxidicae. I agree. Is that admin's reasoning valid though - can they stop someone (i.e. me) from going ahead, singlehandedly? And should such comments be tolerated at all from the sole admin of a project? To me IMHO, the last comment sounded like someone who wants to run a private project. Rehman 14:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
I mean, no. A single admin can't stop any person from requesting rights but I think they make a good point and you probably shouldn't. It's a GS wiki and deletions can be handled that way, as well as through their admins. Praxidicae (talk) 14:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I will not push, in that case. For arguement sake though, considering that there are barely any active users there, a ton of bad files, and almost zero probability that the only admin can handle all that mess. What do we do in such a situation, when the only admin (and probably the only editor) comments against someone offering to help? For the sake of our brand reputation, we cannot let it run as a private wiki, can we? Rehman 14:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think encouraging non-SI speaking editors to seek adminship is the solution here. We also have capable global sysops who can assist should it be needed. SI has managed pretty well so far. Praxidicae (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Just to clarify though, I do speak Sinhala, and currently live in Sri Lanka. I also am the founder of Wikimedia Community User Group Sri Lanka. That being said, I also need to state that SI has not been managing that well - the bulk of the bad files dates back to 2008 (that's over a decade ago). Rehman 14:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps I should clarify. The issue appears to also be a large amount of improperly licensed non free files. If you're a speaker of the language, you should create discussions about those files. There's no need for adminship for that and NFF isn't something that should be nuked without conversation imo. If you want to become an admin there, follow their RFA procedure because stewards cannot grant admin rights in local communities without a consensus there. Praxidicae (talk) 14:48, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Rehman maybe another solution here is to start creating the right licensing templates? It looks like a lot of their NFF uploads (you can see in the file list and user logs) were uploaded as NFF via enwiki templates that don't exist on siwiki. You seem to be pretty good in that area, can they be imported? Praxidicae (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
(ec) Not being rude, but the RFA there is a copy of the enwiki RFA (si:WP:RFA), created by the same admin in 2010, and never used since. That is the only reason I posted at their VP - for better visibility (but that too has barely any visitors). I'm not trying to argue, Praxidicae. I just think this is not good for the health of our brand. What I exposed was just the tip of the iceberg from a single category. With the political situation of Sri Lanka, we're lucky those files are just junk and not something offensive/sensitive. Else a ban from the government would not have been too far away. I see that two volunteers from here has now commented there. Hopefully the message is passed, and things will be sorted. I'm just trying to help. Rehman 14:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Sure. I'm commenting from work. I will have a deeper look soon as soon as I'm done for the day. Cheers, Rehman 15:00, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I think I can fix at least the most used license types. Rehman 07:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
@Rehman:, There is an active admin on the wiki who is willing to act on the pages/files if you tag them, you can make the request for specific administrative actions to the admin there. This page is for requesting specific administrative actions on wikis with no active administrators, is there anything else you need help with here?-BRP ever 08:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
We're talking of hundreds/thousands of files here. I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in inflating this task literally two-fold when I already clearly showed him/her a stash of bad files to start with. This user didn't allow me to help by blocking the sysop process single-handedly (for a baseless reason, FYI), and is also not interested in cleaning the mountain of copyvios themselves. The project is a mess and literally run like a private wiki due to the odd situation we have here, and sadly no one seems to be able to do anything because there is no policy or guideline covering this situation. The sole admin there is clearly not working in good faith, and I'm sure that is already clear by now. Rehman 13:25, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
For transparency: Steward_requests/Permissions/2020-04#Rehman@siwiki. Rehman 06:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

3rd month updateEdit

I think my point here is made. We've now reached the 3rd month since my initial offer to help. In the single category I've linked as an example, there are still hundreds (if not a thousand+) decade-old files which are clearly copyvio or with no source details whatsoever - no change since I reported. And this is just that one category. The only admin at siwiki succeeded in unilaterally blocking my offer to help (so that they may remain as the only poweruser), but did not bother fixing the issue which I raised. If that user could block someone like myself - an experienced admin (on Commons and enwiki) who has been here for over a decade, and who also speaks Sinhala/lives in Sri Lanka, I don't think anyone else would be able to to volunteer as an admin on that wiki, and that wiki will continue to be run as a privately-controlled wiki. I hope the people responsible reads this, and either fixes this damaging policy loophole, or escalates this to someone who can. Rehman 11:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I believe this thread should be treated as a personal attack on me. Please go through si:Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Admin access again.--Lee (talk) 07:40, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I am not sure what we are even discussing here. By what I see you are claiming that the wiki is being privately controlled just because the only active admin there opposed your RFA. They said that they will look into the issue if you go through the local procedure so please go through that. The top of the page says, Requests can be made here for specific administrative actions (such as page deletion) to be performed by a steward or global sysop. and I see nothing like that in this request. The copyvio files have been an issue in a lot of small wikis and I am glad that you are volunteering but by what is read, this request focuses more on the RFA than files. I am involved so I won't be closing this and this is just my opinion.-BRP ever 06:32, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Right to vanish: CarbonicAcid et alEdit

Status:    In progress

Several accounts posted a Synchbot request for their right to vanish:

I deleted the pages Synchbot normally handles, but the bot runs within strict limits to avoid causing any issues (e.g. it doesn't delete the global user page, user pages where the user has a block history, or user talk pages). I'm forwarding their requests here to handle the remaining pages as needed. —Pathoschild 17:48, 06 September 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion, the user pages on which local admins / the local community have not made any changes (e.g. blocked template) can be deleted.--𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 15:37, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Same opinion with WikiBayer: (for user talks) Delete if nothing was ever posted (except vandalism, if any), and courtesy-blank if history is not empty. — regards, Revi 16:44, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Done for meta global userpages. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Proofreading issue on tr.wsEdit

Status:    In progress

'The code for navigating to the page namespace in the main namespace disappears when changing the page list in the index page. For example this https://imgur.com/a/izm1nh6. We can't solve this. And the regarded change its here" --Satirdan kahraman (talk) 13:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)--

@Satirdan kahraman: I am not fully comprehending what you are requesting. Are you saying that you had the page numbering with transcluded wikisource works, and they have disappeared? Or are you asking why you don't have them?

If you have implemented English Wikisource's dynamic page numbering and it is not working for you, then you also need to read the section about loading the dependencies in s:MediaWiki:Common.js, and the other instructions in that page about what we are doing to get displays and section separations. You will also need to configure for your namespaces where you don't wish to display the configuration components.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:31, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Also noting that if the case of you are introducing page numbering then importing the enWS page will have some issues as that is going to have English language labelling, and it is not readily customisable with an i18n layer. If this is something that we need to consider, then we may need to get help from WMF (@Jon (WMF): about the best way to do some i18n labels introduced and managed.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: hi. We have dynamic page numbering and it is working properly. But we changed <pagelist /> on 'Index:' namespace as <pagelist 1=cover 2=frontispiece 3= preface /> etc. disappered dynamic page numbering on main namespace. --Satirdan kahraman (talk) 11:55, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@Satirdan kahraman: Guessing that it is all related to the same issue, and that GOIII did some coding within the script to manage how they present on top of the base components of numbering in raw ProofreadPage, overlays, channel width, skipping numbers, etc. As you expand the page numbering beyond a certain size what you have isn't adapting suitably. It probably requires the other components previously mentioned to display properly. Too long ago for me to remember, and some of the css is black magic that was undocumented when it was added.

Personal opinion, stick to page numbers, and forget t he labels, I think that they are an abomination when they display rather than the true page numbers and keeping things simple.    — billinghurst sDrewth 12:19, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Supplementary: It is a display issue as the code is there
<p>&#32;<span><span class="pagenum ws-pagenum" id="fronts." data-page-number="fronts." title=...
 — billinghurst sDrewth 12:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: thank you. :)) i will keep it simple :) --Satirdan kahraman (talk) 12:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

common.js on tr.wsEdit

Status:    requires a phabricator ticket

"We want to DoubleWiki on tr.ws and global community said that add to the code mw.loader.load('//wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:DoubleWiki.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); paste common.js. Community consensus is here Can we help you?"--Satirdan kahraman (talk) 20:42, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

The script at oldwikisource:MediaWiki:DoubleWiki.js is different from mw:Extension:DoubleWiki - which do you want? --DannyS712 (talk) 20:45, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
@DannyS712:, I don't know the difference between the new and the old. We just want to this appear. Therefore, if the new - mw:Extension:DoubleWiki - functions the same, let it be. --Satirdan kahraman (talk) 21:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Based on the documentation at oldwikisource:Wikisource:Shared Scripts, it seems the script requires the extension to be installed first. Please see Requesting wiki configuration changes and request that the extension be enabled by filing a request on phabricator --DannyS712 (talk) 21:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
I made a request --Satirdan kahraman (talk) 21:25, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Done, by ToprakM in this edit per phab task. Sohom Datta (talk) 15:40, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

small wiki IP bot additionsEdit

WikiBayer contacted other global sysops to notify that the IP bot editor was back at akWP, and it would appear that they were also at lldWP, and they have been busy at a list of smaller wikis. I have asked stewards to block the following

Though I also note that I can see edits from at least three other IPs (162.210.194.35, 178.209.42.106, 185.104.194.4 all of which smell like OPs or small range server sets) and that was not even really digging through many wikis. I think that we probably should be writing some filters to grab the edits, and possibly to stop the edits, I know that user:GeneralNotability wanted to do some GAF work, and we have special:abusefilter/196 and special:abusefilter/199 set to watch. To me it is time that we started to put absolute impediments for this LTA.

Also noting that this LTA is now also adding the data to WD.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:21, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Info: ak:Soronko:Contributions/Sorrat Account from 2012 has the self edits -𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 11:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
billinghurst I see the filters, but I'm not at all familiar with this case (and you've deleted all of its handiwork) - what is the bot doing? GeneralNotability (talk) 13:18, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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