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Welcome to Meta!Edit

Hello Lasta, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing! --John Vandenberg 23:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Pomoć novim suradnicimaEdit

Lasta, Dmedved je 23. rujna napisao:, neke slike dvojice novih suradnika su zapravo bez razloga obrisane:, a voditeljica Službe za Internet podršku Zavoda za informatičku djelatnost Grada Rijeke, Tatjana Perše do koje se može doći na telefonski broj +385 51 209 337, kao i mobitel, također je potvrdila dopusnicu za prenošenje sadržaja. U čemu je još problem? Lijep pozdrav :-) --Roberta F. 14:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Translator, We need you!Edit

Dear Lasta,

You have helped us in previous years with translations and for that we are most grateful. Now we turn towards the 2011/12 fundraiser. It may seem forever away, but work has already begun getting everything ready to go. This year we want to have landing pages covering as many countries in as many languages as possible.

Right now, we want to figure out who is interested in translating for the fundraiser. This year we're hoping to have more of a solidified "core" group of translators that we can count on to have work done by a few key dates, but we'd also welcome help from people who are willing to just help out when they can.

If you would be interested please take a look at this little sign-up survey and fill it out With that we can start building a list of people and filling any gaps in the languages we serve.

Many Thanks

Joseph Seddon (User:Jseddon (WMF))

Production Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation
Jseddon (WMF) 00:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucratEdit

Hello, please see the page above where there is a section on your behavior on this wiki. --Rschen7754 23:56, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Legal threatsEdit

Legal threats, threatening to engage in real-world litigation against other editors, are not a way to resolve conflict within our system. Meta-Wiki and Wikimedia projects are not the place for legal disputes. We have a procedure to resolve issues internally; that's what this specific RfC is for. You had the opportunity to contest the claims against you on-wiki, and you chose instead to pursue an off-wiki course involving legal action. As such, I'm imposing an indefinite block on your account until this legal issue is resolved. Regards, Vermont (talk) 00:13, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

This block is completely unjustified and embarrassing for Meta. Is Meta or Wikipedia a legal vacuum? Can users be defamed here for no reason? --Mateo K 01 (talk) 00:27, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Users have different options in responding to criticism. The usual route is to manage it onwiki, through our resolution processes (in this case, the RfC). Another route, the one Lasta chose, is litigation. The two are mutually exclusive; you cannot have both. Warm regards, Vermont (talk) 00:41, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
They are free to take legal actions if they wish so: We cannot prevent them. However, you should not discuss your legal actions on this wiki as it harms the community (by publicly attempting to gag someone else's mouth), so - if you want to discuss such matter, email and other private contact method is the way to go. — regards, Revi 01:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm noting that you left me a message on my home wiki. I will respond to it on your talk page here, which you should be able to edit; you have talk page access. I have no doubt that your comments were legal threats. Telling someone that, if they didn't remove your name within 48 hours, you would sue them, is a very clear legal threat with no room for ambiguity. You also stated, "GregorB, it is too late for that kind of talk. That kind of talk was possible before the accusation, this is another game now.", and the next sentences said he could either withdraw his accusations or face a lawsuit. That cannot be interpreted as anything but a clear legal threat. Do you have any intention of pursuing rectification of this dispute in court? Vermont (talk) 11:35, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Vermont, for the record:
  • I'm the editor Lasta is accused of having made legal threats against.
  • I never formally or informally complained or intended to complain about perceived legal threats, and haven't sought Lasta's block or had any part in it.
I would like you to consider unblocking Lasta, taking the following into consideration:
  1. As I've already noted, I'm not complaining about any legal threats possibly made against me.
  2. There is no way of materializing a legal threat against me, as my real-life identity is not publicly known.
  3. An ongoing RfC is discussing Lasta's actions on the Croatian Wikipedia, and there are accusations against him which may affect his status as an administrator. While he is blocked, he won't be able to address these accusations.
I'm fully aware that, strictly speaking, the above three points have no bearing on the interpretation or implementation of the legal threats policy. Please also consider unblocking him for the duration of the RfC, provided, of course, that he agrees to desist from making any kind of statement that refers to legal action, and to edit his earlier statements accordingly. GregorB (talk) 21:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
I understand your third point; it would be beneficial were they to be able to address the accusations against them. However, that is not a free pass to make legal threats. If Lasta is to rescind their earlier legal threats and agree not to engage in such behavior in the future, I will unblock the account. Best regards, Vermont (talk) 00:02, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Vermont: If you read my statement on your simple Wiki page, you will find that I wrote that, no matter what I want to do, there are no foundations for any successful legal claim, nor I have any information who is the person who is accusing me. Therefore, I do not have any other choice except to let it be. --Lasta (talk) 19:03, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Vermont: Anyhow, your actions did not (and will not) interfere with my intentions to ignore those fake accusations, especially when I see that they are backed up by another account which behaves very similar to behaviour of a sock-puppet ( --Lasta (talk) 19:22, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Stating that your legal threats have no merit and that you don't know the name of the person you're threating does not negate the fact that you made legal threats, disrupting the desired civil environment. I will reiterate: unless you rescind your legal threats and agree not to engage in such behavior in the future, you will not be unblocked. Vermont (talk) 21:56, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Vermont: Please, do me a favour, do not unblock me any more, instead, block me an all Wikies.