Meta:Requests for limited adminship/Willie Robert

The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a closed Meta-Wiki request. Please do not modify it.

Willie Robert

Willie Robert (talk • contribs • deleted user contributions • logs • block log • abuse log • CentralAuth • stalktoy) Bureaucrats: user rights management.

Hi everyone,

As vice-chair of Wikimédia France's board, I'm requesting limited adminship on meta in order to (un-)protect, suppress, rename over, etc., any Wikimédia France's pages or subpages, templates and categories. I will not use any admin tools outside of this scope. I will ask for adminship removal as soon as I'm not member of Wikimédia France's board anymore.

Beyond the classical reasons leading to ask admin tools (clean-up, etc.), I want to add that Wikimédia France is planning to organize on meta a contributor selected board seat process which will require a close oversight and good reactivity.

For the sake of preserving my privacy, I cannot link here to my main user account, but I am a long time wikimedia's projects user (~ 60k contributions since 2006) and I have or I had several restricted technical status on my home wiki (fr.wikipedia.org), including adminship.

Willie Robert (talk) 10:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to be an admin to move pages, is there some good reason why you want to protect pages? Stryn (talk) 10:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One need to be admin to move a page over another one which is not a mere one line history redirection (not sure on meta but that's the case on fr.wikipedia.org) and, for example, one also need to be admin to be granted the move-subpages and suppressredirect rights (the first being important when you see the tree structure of Wikimédia France's pages).

We would like to protect (but still have edit access to) important elections' pages like General assemblies' elections which are held on meta since 2017. Furthermore, as I stated above, we are planning to hold on meta a contributor selected board seat process which will supposedly draw a lot of traffic (all the french speaking contributors from all wikimedia's wikis will be targeted): main pages of this process should protected to avoid any problem during the process or as soon as a problem is detected, and results pages should be protected (but with editing access for at least one Wikimédia France's board member). Willie Robert (talk) 11:25, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And, not decided yet, but we possibly intend to semiprotect some vote pages, the process being restricted to registered contributors. Willie Robert (talk) 11:35, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. It seems that WMFR does not have a separate wiki, so it makes sense that it would use Meta and it is alright for a chapter board to have more control over its pages. But on the other hand I am not convinced there would be many such actions. On a personal note coming from a chapter which requires its governing body members to devirtualise I do not like lack of disclosure here, but I cannot insist on it. --Base (talk) 15:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please not that WMFr policy is that chapter board members must publicly disclose their real names but must not publicly disclose their usernames. Thus Willie Robert is an account of a board member whose real name is Willie Robert — NickK (talk) 15:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mainly per declared competence as well as demonstrated need. ~~But Per Base, I also don't like a lack of disclosure and it is an esoteric practice. I hope that at least you can declare to one of the meta crats which I guess they will be able to handle PII well.~~ Thanks for helping in Wikimedia movement and I see this tool will be helpful, albeit in a small way. So why not? --Cohaf (talk) 16:08, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't want to disclose my main user name publicly, due to privacy concerns. But WMFr members and WMF staff are well aware of my username and I would be happy to share it with you (and anyone else including bureaucrats of course) upon request and by email. Willie Robert (talk) 16:36, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cohaf: see below, hopefully that alleviates your concern, it did mine. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux:Thank you for verification. Now stricken my comment. Appreciate your work. :). Thanks @Willie Robert: too. Protection should be as light as possible per Xaosflux. --Cohaf (talk) 15:20, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Since WM France hosts content here, I have no issues with members of their board being granted limited adminship to handle that content. I would prefer direct linkage between the accounts per Base. – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support and no issues at all with the lack of linkage. We should not force users to out themselves over stuff like this. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:00, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support per Base and Cohaf. — Jeff G. ツ_{please ping or talk to me} 02:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
~~(oppose)~~ primarily due to lack of demonstrated experience anywhere (<300 global edits, no advanced permissions). Just claiming that you are an experience user isn't enough for me. Will contact you by email to see if there is a way you are comfortable disclosing your experience, which could certainly change my mind. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:27, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Emailed, offered to accept private information as a meta-wiki oversighter, and offered to provide a high level summary of experience. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:48, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support An existing alternative-relationship has been verified (I've promised secrecy as a m-w oversighter), the requester is a sysop on at least one non-small project, with over 5 years registration status, with over 20,000 global edits. The use case seems appropriate, please keep in mind that protection should be used as lightly as possible. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Question: @Willie Robert: Bonjour. Limited adminship is usually granted on Meta for one month. We can certainly grant it for a longer period of time upon a clear request. As such, for how long do you think you need temporary adminship? Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Bonjour. My first thought was more a scope-limited adminship than a time limited one. This appears to be possible per Meta:Administrators#Limited_administrator_status and that's what I'm asking for. The main idea is to ensure that Wikimédia France's board has a scope limited adminship to handle problems on its own pages. As an individual, I'll ask for adminship removal as soon as my term ends. After my term, WMFr will have to decide if an limited adminship on meta is still useful or not, and name someone to apply again on this page.

To be more specific and exhaustive, I think the adminship will be very useful for us until November the first, due to sensitive elections schedule. After that, it will be less useful, but still be, for more general purpose. Willie Robert (talk) 15:15, 20 June 2019 (UTC)Sorry for the long delay, but it seems that your notification didn't work.[reply]
@Willie Robert: Thanks for the answer. I wanted to be sure. Indeed a limited adminship for WMFr activities can be obtained. I'll wait for until tomorrow to close this RfA (so it makes 7 days). Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 20:31, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Makes sense, demonstrated need as part of role, per Xaosflux appears to be more than experienced. Looks good. Hiàn (talk) 20:42, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Waiting until this user answer MarcoAurelio's question, temporary usually is just 1 month.--Aldnonymous^Bicara? 03:35, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support, good contributor and well justified — NickK (talk) 15:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Clear use case. –Ammarpad (talk) 16:51, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Limited adminship granted for Wikimédia France activities only, as stated in this request, until Willie Robert is no longer a member of the Board of the WMFR chapter. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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