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I do not know how Japanese, sorry--Shizhao 07:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Translation team fr

Hi. I created a subpage for the French translation team as part of the translation coordination effort. If you consider yourself as a (willing?) active translator (eng-> fra or fra->eng), please add your name on the members' list. Soon, I'll add a selection of pending translation tasks. Thank you!

Bonjour. Je viens de créer une sous page French translation team, dans le but d'améliorer la coordination du processus de traduction. Si vous vous considérez comme un traducteur actif (ou potentiellement actif à court terme), n'hésitez pas à vous ajouter à la liste des membres de l'équipe. J'ajouterai très bientôt une liste de tâche à faire dans le domaine de la traduction fra->eng ou eng->fra. jd  20:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


I voted incorrectly, sorry. Pathoschild changed my vote. Albertsab@cawiki 07:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


I just gave a look to the Enwiki page ... I appreciate your vigorous participation to discussion, and of Guillom. It is really an encouragement for me. --Aphaia 20:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote

Whether for or against me and the other stewards. Your contributions make this place better.

I will be on a short holiday until after the new years. Thanks again! Bastique 15:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


Hi Bastique, can you confirm that there is permission for this file in OTRS and add the relevant template to the page? Thanks, Bryan 10:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Left you a message on your Commons talk page. Bastique 15:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

see also from templates

Talk:OTRS/en#Answers_for_infrequent_questions points to this page. If there were additional teomplates youi may wamt to move them to a subpage and update that page? ++Lar: t/c 14:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

RE: CHeckuser Access

I actually wasnt aware that checkuser logs were available inter-wiki until after the request was granted. The reason the request was granted is that I am a member of the Checkuser Ombudsmen, a group sanctioned by the WMF board - Nathan Carter (Talk) 02:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Nepal Bhasa

Thanks for the admin access. If I maintain my support for more than 8 days in the lcoal request page, will this adminship be extended? Thank you.

yiddish wiki

Can I contect you in email? thank you-- 03:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC) I'm very sorry for vandalizing the yiddish wiki. however I realy wanna explain you thinks what you didn't know. pleas let me know the best way to do that (not in public). -- 03:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not able help do more than stop vandalism. I don't read Yiddish but I don't need to in order to tell that your persistent edits were vandalism. Please leave a message for User:Danny if you need to discuss this with someone in authority. Bastique 04:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Great, and thank you!. but let me ask you: if you dont know yiddish how did you know that my persistent edits were vandalism? is it the only reason because this user talled you? I'm asking you! the yiddish wikipadia is a slaughterhouse! we had asked User:Danny in his page to take care on it, as you can see here. because we are a little bad in anglish we are really DONT have the freadom of speach.?!... Im asking you as a graet sysup. PLEAS HELP ALL OF US. and dont let the 2 curently sysups to do whatever they want just because they knoe a great english. Thank you again. and sorry for my english :) -- 04:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Also, we had here votes to give back the sysup rights for user RUNNY. and nobody cared about it.-- 04:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

About the Mickey Mouse's picture erasure in the Occitan Wikipedia

Hi Bastique,

I'm a bit perplex about the erasure of MIckey Mouse's picture in the Occitan Wikipedia since I've seen the same picture in the French and the Italian Wikipedias and no erasure at all there. I don't know if there are some copyrights on the picture (you didn't seem real sure...), I just wished you had told the Occitan Wikipedian people before erasing the picture and then proceed just the same in the other Wikipedias. See you, have a nice day, coralament, Capsot

Your RfA

Hello Bastique;
I supported your RfA, but you have to enable the e-mail functionality as required in WM:RFA ("5. You have a valid contact address (either a confirmed email address in your preferences, or a valid email address on your user page"). Thank you. --.anaconda 17:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... It doesn't seems to work. --.anaconda 22:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Please block this user

this. he vandalise now, and write now stupid articles. Thank you.--Nullad 02:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity

To Bastique: I am just curious. Is it right for you to remove shizhao's checkuser function without having an in-depth discussion with the whole community, especially people from the Chinese Wikipedia?--Seasurfer 03:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

There's a distinction between local checkuser and steward checkuser. Since there aren't 2 checkusers on chinese wikipedia, no local (permanent) checkusers can exist. But we stewards (all of us) can always perform checkusers there if needed, precisely becuase there's no local checkusers. drini [es:] [commons:] 03:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

i saw you at korean wiki.

hi, i saw you at k wiki. 23:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

for setting up our new OTRS permissions-it address. --Elitre 01:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

hiya ;-)

here you are my friend ;-) best, oscar 19:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I was recomended? Neet!

Hi, I've replied to your email to the email address you specified. I'd like to use an email address (that I have specified) apart from the one I had my en-wiki account setup for initially... is that a problem?

Thanks, J.smith 06:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Just to stoke my own ego a tad, who is it I should be thanking for the recomendation? J.smith 06:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


Dear Bastique, could you add the template messages in OTRS/el to the OTRS system for the greek team? Thanks in advance and congratulation for the recent job appointment. Cheers, --Dada 21:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I've taken care of this. The messages were very well-written. Jkelly 01:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Communication Projects Group

Once I have seen the call for volunteers, I would like to give you a hand, but I realize if you have any requirement or condition. Would you mind to leave me a message on my Chinese talk page(you may type English there). Thank you very much. I hope I can contribute what I can do. Chanueting 13:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I (AnyFile) am interested into details about the requirement for the Communication Projects Group too. Can more details be put on Communication Projects Group page? -- AnyFile 14:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, involvement is the only requirement, this is an open committee. You are welcome to join. We only ask that you please be involved in some capacity! Cary Bass demandez 15:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Cary

I just translated your text on this subject, but I found something ambiguous in the wording:

When you say this committe will be responsible etc. I take it that you do not mean the ComCom that you have just been talking about, because of the future tense, but about the newly forming Group, the CPG. Please let me know if this is not the case . CheersLouisBB 06:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Communication Projects Group

Hi Bastique, I just saw your call for participation to the CPGroup. Actually, i'm really interested in such topic: i already started to read and collect many papers about Wikipedia on my french user page (see here). I would really appreciate if i can join the group. Best Regards. Guérin Nicolas 15:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Cross project vandalism

Would you please give a look to my talk and give an opinion, if appropriate? I don't mind you move the discussion to another page wherever you think more appropriate. --Aphaia 08:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Relates to this edit [1] and Vandalism_reports#.E5.BD.B1.E6.AD.A6.E8.80.85_.28Kagemusha_etc.29 with similar crosswiki (Commons definitely as I've blocked/protected there). --Herby talk thyme 09:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism reports#KAGE may work well too :) --Aphaia 10:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you please add Pill? I know, he has an account on OTRS, too. Greetings, --Thogo (talk) 23:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for completing all the info about Commons admins. I added it to the first, as you might have seen, and didn't know if I had to add it to all.

Fred Chess 18:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

New checkuse features

Hello Cary,

I have a few questions regarding new features of CheckUser extension and the policy about informing the community about those.

  1. It appears that the last version of CheckUser extension allows people with checkuser access to see not only IPs for the editor and edits from IP, but also User-Agents for given user or IP. Having heard about that, I examined current Checkuser policy, and found that this feature is not described there. However it is described that checkusers can get IPs for editor and edits from IP, so basicly that document describes how checkuser interface works, without the intention to keep it undercover. So it looks now like Checkuser policy is a bit outdated, and needs to be updated according to the current state of technical possibilities. Do you think it would be a good idea, or is it intentional that new features are not described?
  2. It appears that checkusers can now see logs for more than 1 month. Can you confirm if it is the case, and how long is it now? Local checkusers in Russian wikipedia now publish results for users who did not edit in the last month, and some people in the community suspect again that false information could be provided. IMHO it would be good to clarify such technical issues so that people calm down.

Thank you for you attention! AstroNomer-ru 12:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Just a reply to #2... CheckUser data is derived from the same edit-list that Recent changes is. On a large wiki, the RC information is only stored for a short amount of time (as opposed to a smaller wiki). So, it varies from wiki-to-wiki based on the number of Recent changes. Cbrown1023 talk 20:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Hm, are you sure about this? Do you say that checkuser data is only derived from the recent changes list that is publicly available (5000 items or so)? Then on a wiki like Russian it would be only a few days (about a week), which is obviously not the case. Or did I get you wrong? Thanks! AstroNomer-ru 10:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Not that is publicly available. The RC feed is emptied as more actions are recorded and that is the actions that are reported during a CU query. It really all depends on the amount of recent edits you have had, not the time that has elapsed (although that, of course, has a large effect). The list is not always publicly available (only a small bit of it is), but it is still the same feed. Cbrown1023 talk 01:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I seem to be able to see checkuser logs for about 2 months on all projects. Cary Bass demandez 12:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


Isolated incidents of vandalism always will be that unless they are collated! --Herby talk thyme 12:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Yiddish Wikipedia

Hi, i hope my words reach u in the best of state. i am turning to u as a last resort to save our wiki project in the Yiddish language, we are a very small wiki, most users are 1 or 2 guys writing and writing whatever hours in the day they can we have grown this small language into a powerful database relative to our language speakers with about 100,000 users into an encyclopedia of 3,600 articles.

Now after we have come such a long hard way it is all in danger of falling apart. The history goes back since day one of our existence.

To understand this unique situation u must understand who the speakers are, most of them are from a very very fundamental and fanatical, closed society called Satmar Hasidim. since we are very traditional minded and preserving of old strict customs and ancient Jewish European lifestyle.

The freedom of information that the foundation tries to preserve and promote gets in the face of our belief system that all information is no good for instance sex and heresy are severe sins to read never mind to write them.

From day one i was there to fight the fight of the foundation that no religious censership should be tolerated, ask Danny Wool how much terror i went trhough in this wiki for writing everything that is fact, i was dysysoped after votes, and thereafter when they blocked me out for nothing i was resysoped by a unanimous decision of all stewards. i was last month talked into again give up my sysop by Danny on the hopes to build up a community, since i am the fighter for freedom of all kinds of info i cannot be sysop in the same time of fighting the content of articles because a sysop cannot be part of the fight.

Now again all kinds of votes of sockpupets want to become sysop and bureaucrat, in order to silence me and censure out my work, i would like to warn u this is no community. this is simply one guy with 6 names who dont have any contribution's at all only edit fights and talk pages and votes.

Please before any stewred promotes somebody to sysop talk first to one of our sysops Danny or Harel or Dror becouse the consequences will be irreparable.

Thanks so much.--יודל 17:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

HI Bastique, dont let this יודל Drag you in with his lies see it all here. I would suggest you that since Effeietsanders is already involved, let him deal with it. יודל is trying to fool you in. --Joel.m 17:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

how to obtain agreement for grant application?

Dear Cass, I'm an academic who has been shortlisted for a grant, in a project that would allow me to devote lots of time to new Wikiversity activities. If the project succeeds, lots of other academics would join in with this Wikiversity work, which is working to create new models for Open Research. A letter of support from the Wikiversity or Wikimedia board would really help. I understand that the role of Wikimedia Grants Coordinator is vacant at the moment. Do you have any suggestions for how I might deliver a one page summary of the project with a view to possibly getting a letter of support? Big thank you, Open Research 21:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Username Usurpation

Is there a page on Meta to go about requesting the usurpation of a username? Some time ago I was granted the name Lexicon on, as it had no edits and did not respond to the usurpation request. I find that the name is also taken on Meta (presumably by the same user), also without any edits, and I would like to have it here as well. If there is no formal page or process for usurpation, would it be possible to get an ad hoc usurpation? Thanks for any help you could be. Osgoodelawyer 14:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

  Done - renamed to Lexicon (usurped), the other is now free. best regards, oscar 15:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Oscar. Lexicon 16:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Communications Coordinator

Hey, honey, you can remove communications coordinator from the vacant volunteer list, since Sandy said I have filled it, and introduced myself as such on the comproj mailing list. Have a good weekend! Mike 07:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC) Editing User talk:Bastique (section) - Meta

Misplaced message

Cory (or, to use Open Research's forename-surname conflation supra, which I quite like, Cass), I was perusing your OTRS templates page and happened upon a query posted on 25 January by Glacious that I gather was meant for your talk page; since it was rather out-of-place, I removed it. It appears the issue, one related to a request for bureaucrat access on, was subsequently handled by Redux (and is in any event obviously old), but I imagine I ought to let you know since the message was, after all, intended for you. Cheers, Joe 00:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Please lock user who exposes privacy and identity of other user

This user yi:באַניצער:יודל קרויס has the privacy of a real name [2] created this night and blocked already. but his sockpupet isn't blocked. This user yi:באַניצער:Joel.m should also be blocked due to check user results [3] who has shown it to be the guy responsible for the action that exposes privacy of other users.

I told you on the phone what this name קרויס is a private name of a user, i have asked you if you believe me you told me Yes. And you declined afterwards to block him. saying over in the irc channel that its based on my word solely. So if you don't believe me why have you told me on the phone you believed me? i understand from this that you just wanted to get me off the phone. I hope you will have time today to see into this situation. Because the foundation secretary tells me that you are the only person responsible for such thinks. thanks and have a good day--יודל 13:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Review response to OTRS ticket

Hello Cary. I've sent a response to an OTRS ticket you set as high priority, in case you'd like to review it. —{admin} Pathoschild 22:11:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Identification of those members who have access to non public data

Hi, I have a question about the treatment of identification data of those who have access to non public data on WMF projects: suppose a checkuser resigns or his/her term ends, would WMF delete his/her personal records? (if not automatically, on explicit request). Thanks. --Brownout(msg) 10:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes. The information will be removed on request, but not automatically. Cary Bass demandez 12:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


Hiya! I know you're busy and all, but if you get the time, you might want to update your WikiMatrix thing sometime.

You've been promoted from Sysop to Sysop, Checkuser, Bureaucrat on Wordforge.

Have a nice day! ~Kylu (u|t) 21:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

OTRS template

Hi Bastique, could you add the following template (thanks to manuel) to the permissions queue? fr-Image thank you:

Nous avons reçu l'autorisation pour cette/ces image(s) et fait les modifications nécessaires sur les pages de description. 
Merci d'avoir mis à disposition ces photos et pour votre contribution à Wikimedia Commons

Thanks, -- Bryan (talk|commons) 09:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Added here: [4] Cary Bass demandez 12:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

gettings started at Wikibooks

Just wanted to let you know that i've thrown some things together, and we now have b:Using Wikibooks. It's like help-pages, but formatted as a book! The obviousness of the approach seems unbelievable in hindsight.

Anyway, it's still a work in progress, but it's got some good material that new users can read to get started. If you have any more people inquiring about Wikibooks, you can point them to that page (at least until I get around to coming up with a standard email letter to send them). --Whiteknight (meta) (Books) 21:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Russian Wiki-Conference organising committee e-mail address

Dear Cary,

could you please advise me a bit? Here is a question from the Wiki-Conference committe (details below):

The Russian Wikipedia (and other mediawikis) community is organising its first WikiConference (ru:Википедия:Викиконференция 2007 - unfortunately, in Russian only yet; it might be something like Wikimania 2006). It is planned on October 27-28 in St.Petersburg (Russia). As soon as we make a final choice where exactly it will be held, we will issue a short press-release, which we are going to translate in English (hopefully in beginning next week).

In order to contact various organisations, a e-mail like "ruwikiconference(at)" would be quite useful for the organisation committee. Could we ask the Foundation to grant us such an address at least temporarily? We need it for use in press-releases and when writing to potential participans like universities and other rather conservative institutions.

As we see it, it could be a e-mail address redirected to a mail list used by the wikiconference organisation committee members. We suppose it couldn't cause any significant load on the Foundation's servers.

Could you please advise us if we could get a help like this, or how we would handle this problem else?

Thank you!

From ru-wiki org. comitteeDrBug & Kaganer 15:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC) ;)

There is edit war in, when some people want to close discussion which for a long time has no consensus. Can somebody help with it? --Yaroslav Zolotaryov 13:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like Aphaia is managing it. Cary Bass demandez 14:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Expiry dates for temporary sysops??

I noticed this in the user rights log - see here.

Is it really possible to set an expiry time for sysops to be temporary sysops?? I'm surprised more stewards haven't done this! --WiganRunnerEu 17:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

That was for noting in the logs. That doesn't actually work as a fix. Cary Bass demandez 17:53, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Fundraising 2007/it

Hi Cary, I removed from this page boring and nonsense text, I haven't do a grammar correction, if you need this or other, ask me on IRC. --Fabexplosive The archive man 13:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

hello, I helped to make a web botton in Chinese

Hi, Cary, please read this, I have done a web botton in Chinese for the fund raise.--theodoranian 07:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Blog/web Sticker

<a href=""><img src=""></a>

--KaurJmeb 10:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Translator questions

I wrote wikiblue an email to ask for some clarifications, and I will also ask an enwiki user who is a native Swedish speaker but very close to native level in English. I drop you some links here anyhow, in case you have something to add or if the procedure is interesting to you.

I wrote to wikiblue in email, which is what is suggested on her meta talk. Unless she disagrees I'll paste her replys on the wiki though. // habj 21:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

One or more of your media uploads have been proposed for deletion

Hi Bastique. One or more of your media uploads have been proposed for deletion at Meta:Requests_for_deletion#Images. The most common reasons for this are a missing source (author, weblink, source material) or a missing license (license tag, license text or a verifiable permission by the copyright holder). Please add the missing information and note this at the Requests for deletion page. If the missing information is not fixed, the media may be deleted two weeks after this message has been placed. Here is a list of all your uploads on this wiki. Cheers! Siebrand 10:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

changed format

okay, i will finish then i will update it..thanks-- 21:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

/nl fundraising stuff done

Hi Cary. I think that all the translations for Dutch have been created, copy-edited and finalised. No idea where else I should report this, but it can go live if 'the back-end boys' do what they have to do. Cheers! Siebrand 00:14, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

jv typo

Hey thanks for fixing the Javanese typo on Template:Translation status! Meursault2004 23:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Fundraising stuff in Kazakh

Please submit Fundraising stuff in Kazakh language listed at User:AlefZet/CentralNotice. Thank You --AlefZet 16:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

You can add these yourself at Fundraising_2007/Text_for_sitenotice ! :) Cary Bass demandez 16:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Translations are added to Fundraising_2007/Text_for_sitenotice#K. Who would submit?--AlefZet 18:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Please publish current updates--AlefZet 16:49, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


Should we still avoid Chinese, Japanese, and Korean quotes because they don't show up in some browsers? Zscout found a/some good ja one(s). Cbrown1023 talk 23:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we should still use them. Cary Bass demandez 13:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Cary. On the translation for "Belgian account:" appears to be missing, although it had been translated on Fundraising 2007/Donate form/Translations/nl (Belgisch rekeningnummer). Could you please fix that? Cheers! Siebrand 10:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...looks like that happened with all of them. Cary Bass demandez 13:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the fix. Cheers! Siebrand 17:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello, can you please update the Text regarding the donation campaign for RO. I put the translated texts here. Also, I translated all the pages for the donations, can you put me in touch with somebody that cand update the page, as well as the video appeal of Jimmy Wales? --Danutz

OTRS Enquiry

Hi Bastique,

I saw you listed on the OTRS page. I am an administrator over at Wikibooks and I was wondering if you could answer a question that i need answering. The book b:The Guide for Electronic Theses and Dissertations is not currenly licensed under the GFDL, it is copyrighted. The owners have expressed an interest in allowing the book to be used on wikibooks. However, they are not entirely sure how to do this.

Upon holding conversations with other user's and contributors to the wikimedia projects, I am under the impression that there are two key ways of making this happen. The first involves the copyright holder altering the copyright notice on their website, the other involves the OTRS system, through the permissions channel. However, i am not familiar with the OTRS system and before i can explain how it works to the copyright owner, I need to know myself.

Would the copyright owner need to send an email directly to the OTRS channel, or could correspondance be forwarded from myself? What exactly needs to be sent in the email outlining permission? Where exactly would permission need to be sent? etc...

If you could please mull over these questions and get back to me as soon as possible, it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards, Urbane 12:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I hope it's alright that I am answering on behalf of Bastique here, but here goes. :-) You can send the e-mail message or they can send the mail message to permissions [at], it can also be a threaded discussion or just permission from them. The only thing we should need from them to confirm the permission is something along the lines of "We, the authors of this document, agree to license it under the GFDL, as outlined at <>." It would also be very helpful if they did this from an "official-looking" e-mail address (like one provided by the company that owns the copyright.) More information on getting permission (or alternate statements) can be found at w:en:Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. I hope this helps and if not, please do not hesitate to ask for clarification. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 20:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello! Please minor update msg MediaWiki:Centralnotice-headlines/ru to

Помогите нам распространять знания в мире. <span class="showlink">Пожертвуйте фонду «Викимедиа»</span>!

(text on Fundraising 2007/Text for sitenotice are updated) Thanks. --Kaganer 11:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

ru: New step

I change translate new mesage on Fundraising 2007/Text for sitenotice#R. Please update

<strong>Вы</strong> можете помочь фонду «Викимедиа» изменить мир!
<strong>$1</strong> уже пожертвовали.

Thanks. --Kaganer 19:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Salut Bastique,

Pourrais-tu s'il te plaît republier la page Fundraising 2007/Donate form/Translations/fr ? La version en ligne contient des fautes d'orthographe.

Par ailleurs, pourrais-tu remplacer le mot « Équivalence » par le mot « Équivalent » dans la page (et aussi si tu en as la possibilité) ?

Merci d'avance, Korg + + 18:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)



Barnstar for all your work on Meta Wikimedia.

The Edit Wikipedia thing looks good... looking forward to that, will have to get the kids in my local library editing! --WiganRunnerEu 18:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

!! :) I've never gotten a meta-barnstar before! Cary Bass demandez 18:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • On Commons, I'm making a new plan regarding inactive admins... feel free to leave feedback there! --WiganRunnerEu 18:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

== Test Wikipedia ==

Could you please make me a sysop on this? Dreamafter 00:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. Dreamafter 00:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Stewards elections

Hi Cary, could you let me know what is required for confirming my identity? Thanks. Adambro 17:09, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Read the Steward handbook, young grasshopper... therein you will find the answer! Cary Bass demandez 17:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
To clarify, I was querying what kind of documents might be appropriate for the purpose, I can't find such details but I may of course have overlooked it, apologies if this is the case. Anyway, would a Full UK driving licence be okay? Thanks again. Adambro 17:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
The link was not clear. I've added it to a better place now :) Cary Bass demandez 17:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Cheers. Adambro 17:20, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Non Discrimination Policy

Hello Bastique

The Non Discrimination Policy 'may not be circumvented, eroded, or ignored on local Wikimedia projects'[5]. The local Wikipedias are local Wikimedia projects [6]. So this policy is valid for the Wikipedias. On the other hand the Wikipedias are also governed by their own policies. I see here a contradiction between both policies. Can you give me an official and valid answer to this question?

Thanks in advance, sincery -- 09:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I can't answer this. Please direct your inquiry to either a board member or Mike Godwin. You'll probably get the best answer by email. Cary Bass demandez 13:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the answer. I can't find their email-adresses. Is it possible to give me a link or to send me the adresses to my email-account? -- Schwarze Feder 17:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Mike Godwin is available at mgodwin (a) wikimedia (puntt) org. The board members may be contacted by sending emails to their emails set up as follows: Florence, Erik, Kat and Frieda. Cary Bass demandez 19:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Would You remove my sysop rights at the Polish Wikipedia? My request has not been yet answered. :-( Picus viridis 20:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Cary Bass demandez 20:39, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Identity verification to become a Steward

Hello, if I want to become a Steward, I have to prove that I'm 18 or above right? May I just simply send my identity document (such as passport, identity card, driving license) to the Wikimedia Foundation office (or whatever such as Post Office Box)? What should my mail contain besides one of these? And when I list myself in the election page here, should I put up my real name according to my identity document in the page too? And is there a deadline of when should the document arrive to you? Thanks! --Edmund the King of the Woods! 11:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

See this page. Cary Bass demandez 14:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

OK I've read the page, thanks. But may I list myself now? And then when do you have to receive my documents? --Edmund the King of the Woods! 14:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people provide their identification before they run for stewardship. This is an additional demonstration of faith to the community. You must provide your identification before becoming a steward. Cary Bass demandez 15:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Erm... You mean most people sent their identification before they put themselves into the election page? And if I happen to succeed in the election, yet you haven't get my docs, will the assignment of my steward post be delayed until you get my document? --Edmund the King of the Woods! 16:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Cary Bass demandez 16:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

OK I'll see how can I send my documents, and then list myself in the election page. Thanks a lot for your info! --Edmund the King of the Woods! 17:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Application requirements steward

But seriosly, can a wikipedian like this one to sent to another user an email with the promise to ban him infinite? Thanks! --Freegiampi 07:34, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Please explain better what you are talking about. Cary Bass demandez 15:09, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
About, requirements for a perfect steward. --Freegiampi 19:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand your question. Cary Bass demandez 19:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I resolved. Thanks --Freegiampi 07:45, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Banners for Wikimania 2008

Could you make a 120 x 40 banner (blank) and a small banner for Wikimania 2008, like you did with Fundraising_2007/web_buttons. Specifically with Image:Wikipedia-free-mini-button.png and Image:Wikinews-banner-blank.svg images, by using Image:Wikimania.svg (and the related colors - blue and red) and black text. This task isn't urgent. Thanks for your help. miranda 06:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikimania 2009

Can translation of Wikimania 2009 and related pages commence? --Agüeybaná (hábleme) 21:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Translation is always appreciated. Majorly (talk) 22:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps this is a question better asked of Aphaia (Wikimania 2009 Jury member/Transcom member)? Cbrown1023 talk 00:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
My answer is same with Majorly. Translation is always appreciated. --Aphaia 00:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks to all. --Agüeybaná (hábleme) 00:50, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ping. I left a question that's probably for you at Talk:Wikimania_2009/Official_requirements_for_bidding_cities#Why_is_the_attendance_300-500.3F. pfctdayelise 13:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Provision of documents to the Wikimania '09 Jury

Hi Bastique. Part of my Wikimania bid involves certain documents (price quotes, etc) that I have received from various venues and the like, which have been given to me commercial in confidence. For this reason, I do not wish to include them in the actual bid page. As a moderator, are you in a position to distribute these documents to members of the jury so that they may be considered as part of Brisbane's bid?

Thanks, Lankiveil 06:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC).

Hi, I think we're going to make a specific announcement to the bidding teams about things like this. You should probably just offer a summary for the members of the jury rather than any actual documents, but you should certainly include estimates on your bid page less any confidential information. Cary Bass demandez 21:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks muchly. I would also like to draw the following to the jury's attention: Talk:Wikimania_2009#Public_Meeting. As you can see, Aphaia is aware of it, but I thought it might come off as rude to spam such a complaint onto every juror's talk page. Lankiveil 10:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC).
The jury is aware of this. Thanks. Cary Bass demandez 19:13, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Admin rights

Thanks for dealing with my admin request for the Norwegian Wikibooks project so swiftly. Cnyborg 16:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. Cary Bass demandez 21:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

A request about an uncivilized sysop in

Hello Bastique,

On June 23 MaxSem have revoked the sysop rights of User:Yonidebest from he.wikipedia at his own request.

This request has come after a community discussion + vote in which Yonidebest lost.

His recent behavior dragged his block by דוד שי.

In addition, Yonidebest abused his bot flag in a few occasions, including the deletion of hunderds of unused uploaded photos (each time the word תמונה is mentioned it means photo) without gaining consensus from the community or permission from דוד שי who granted him the bot flag.

Is it o.k that one of the bureaucrats in will contact you in order to remove the sysop rights of his bot account? The bot account is Yonidebot. The bureaucrats wish to remove all the privileges of the bot account and it is wrong that he will keep the sysop rights after that since he is no longer a sysop himself.

This is quite urgent since the bureaucrats wish to end this thing as quickly as possible.

I have also posted this in the UserTalk page of MaxSem, but later discovered that he is not very active in the last days. ברוקולי 13:22, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Please put this request on Requests for permission under the access removal section. Cary Bass demandez 17:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Done. ברוקולי 18:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Question BC vs BCE

Hi BASTIQUE! I recently made me an account to change some BC notes in articles, cause i found it rather too unneutral (its the believers standpoint and tradition).

I saw lots of structure build up around the BC thing in wikipedia (millennia, centuries) and i question why?

Secondly i searched the wikistructure up for help and there is much less build around the BC thing (NPOV, Style-Guide...) and i secondly questioned - WHY?


Hi. You'll have to address questions about the English Wikipedia style choices on the English Wikipedia. You can probably find information at the Manual of Style to understand the decision to use it. Cary Bass demandez 21:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

User to block

Bastique, please can you block User:WiganRunnerEu for me - he's admitted his wrongdoing on my talkpage. Thanks, --Solumeiras 21:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Isn't there an adminstrators noticeboard for this kind of thing? Cary Bass demandez 22:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • We do share a computer, anyhow I'm new to Meta, just come from the English Wikipedia! --Solumeiras 22:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I see no reason to block this user. Perhaps you can suggest that he perform some vandalism or other reason to be blocked? There are regular admins who handle this all the time. Cary Bass demandez 23:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Well, thank you anyway. Please can you delete the revisions from his userpage where he claims to be my account on the English Wikipedia?? Thanks, --Solumeiras 23:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
There's nothing there that merits deletion. Cary Bass demandez 00:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


Hello, user:Vusal, has created thousands of empty or inefficient pages like this in azeri wikipedia. Most of these short articles are listed here Besides this he uploaded hundreds of unlicenced images. I demand that these pages be deleted. --Uannis 17:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Please put this on Requests for permission under Miscellaneous requests Cary Bass demandez 02:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Login in Foundation wiki

Since I have mentioned your name here, I wanted to bring that to your attention. --Jacob 20:28, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

No answer received yet ...

Dear Cary Bastique, since a couple of days, I 'll get no reply from: user:Dmcdevit about suddenly, withóut notification or so, blocking my account and protecting my talkpage as well, for -imho- no valid reasons: see (his) talkpages here, as well on en:wikipedia. Is that "protection" forever without time-limit,.. how is this treatment anyway possible.? Will you, or someone else, please do something about this.?... Thanks in advance and esteeming regards remain yours sincerely: D.A. Borgdorff 20:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC) → lector emeritus Electrodynamics.

Just answers received yet ... - some. Faithfully yours with best regards from Borgdorff inherently numberd: 09:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Have a look at the Danish village pump

Hi Cary. In case you didn't get my IRC message, before you logged out: I hope, I can persuade you into having another look at your Danish village pump post, where some users (including myself) have adressed various questions to you. It would be nice with some repsonse to these, so hopefully you'll take the time to reply.

Thanks in advance. --Pred 22:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No, I will not respond to your aggressiveness. Your comments have been written in a tone that persists in making accusations. You've taken comments I made on IRC in frustration, out of context, comments for which I've already apologized. I'm sorry your feelings were hurt by my remark about your ability to read, which was based on my frustration with the entire experience, both by the individual and the dawiki community response to him. I have responded fully and adequately and there is no further point in elaborating. Cary Bass demandez 23:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Since you won't answer my question either I will ask it here: How will future foundation interventions be handled? Will they be announced to the local community? --Morten LJ 08:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
This question seems too simplistic to address the complexity of issues that are dealt with on a regular basis. You have to to define "intervention" and what actions it encompasses. Will every action by the foundation be announced to the community? Will we announce when we remove a child editor's private information posted inadvertently? The unpublished home address of a notable film star? Photographs depicting illegal acts that have been uploaded by trolls? Certainly not! Also, bear in mind that one of our more obvious goals is the reduction of drama, which can polarize and gridlock a community. Having a stated policy regarding such actions, where we can point people is the more obvious intent of this.
Obviously we made some mistakes here, changes will have to be made in how such situations have to be approached. Remember, Assume Good Faith is a Foundation wide policy--and applies to the actions of the Foundation as well as the actions of the community in general. You have to apply it to us just as we have to apply it to you. Cary Bass demandez 15:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer. --Morten LJ 15:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict:) I am sorry, but I don't see how pointing out the need of a proper tone invalidates the relevant questions in the post, so, please, take the time to reply (I might have missed it, but I don't remember seeing anything but a reference to comments being misinterpretations, and even if written in frustration, I don't believe that makes them any more apropriate, but let's just forget about that then). If not on the Danish Wikipedia then at least here; what changes will be made, and will they involve involving the Danish community in decision making processes? I believe this to be the core issure. Of course, some problems, such as some of those you mention, are easily solvable and don't require a long pointless process, but I'm sure most people feel, that the present one does not fall into that category: Remember, basically every single administrator active in discussions either signed the initial complaint on the Danish wiki or wanted to have the chance to sign it, when it was complete – that should mean something. Anyway, I would just like some elaborating on that single question. Thanks. --Pred 16:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
No, you've taken my comments in IRC out of context. I posted an apology in IRC. If you received my negative comments, said in anger, then you've surely received my retraction on IRC. You've not chosen to publish those, or any of the remarks made by anyone else on that channel. I cannot help that other members of the community, who told me that they would assist in explaining our position have not chosen to do so at this time, or that you seem to have more time than most to argue the point. I cannot devote any more time to the matter than I am able to, contrary to your personal impatience. I do not believe you (Pred) represent the community any longer. Cary Bass demandez 16:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Furthermore, I cannot simply answer any question you might have without having to spend hours responding to your massive distortion of events. This is what the impropriety of your tone has to do with anything. Cary Bass demandez 16:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm very sorry, if you feel I've taken anything out of context, but in that case, I would, as I just stated on IRC before you left for your meeting, like to know which one(s) you were talking about: I've read the logs over some times, and I don't see any omitted retraction. You did apologize your behaviour on this page, and as I said, I'm very happy with that. But, as far as I can see, you just left before getting very angry (which is entirely understandable by the way). Anyway, I have no idea if my above comment in any way represents the community as a whole; I just stated that the complaint did. But, if other members of the community are able to help, I will of course talk to them and not waste your time, if there's no reason to; who is able to clarify the above? After all, we did spend some time on IRC getting nowhere. --Pred 17:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC) 17:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


Sorry about earlier on IRC. I had a genuine query but put this across very poorly which would have come across as being hostile towards you. Sorry about that. Adambro 20:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

No hard feelings. Cary Bass demandez 18:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Need help with OTRS account

Hi, there

Jeandré du Toit suggested I contact you: I received an email from Raimond Spekking to inform me that he created an account for me at OTRS for the info-af queue. Jeandré tried to help me to get used to the environment, but we soon discovered that I can't view the info-af queue (I have no link to it in my QueueView window). Jeandré sent me a test message, ticket 2008021910016046, which she was able to see in her window. I sent her a screenshot of my queueview window, after which she suggested I contact you, noting that somewhere something might have gone wrong when setting up my account. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated, Anrie 16:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Apparently you weren't included in the role. I've corrected this. Cary Bass demandez 17:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Anrie 17:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

For your info

Never wanting to do a job twice, I've created a basic starting guide for new internal wikis - Help:Setting up an internal wiki.

If anyone needs one set up, they can be pointed to that, for details.

Can you figure where to link it from, for help purposes too?


FT2 (Talk | email) 18:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I have also edited it a bit to make it less enwiki arbcom centric. :-) Cbrown1023 talk 02:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you've desysopped me today :)

Hello Bastique, I'd like to thank you very much for removing sysop rights from my account on the Polish-language Wikipedia today. The problem is, the plwiki ArbCom has no right to decide about desysopping admins. Cheers, odder 09:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that is part of ArbCom's job. Majorly (talk) 10:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Haitian creole wikipedia adminship

Hi Bastique,

my adminship is going to end (march, 13th) and i'd like to renew my application. Could you back me again? (many things on the wikipedia have changed ! there is a lot to do !)

If you could suggest some elements for better aproval for my request, do not hesitate :-)

Thanks inè:masterches

The request here : adminship request

--Masterches 08:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

All things allright, i've been reconducted for 3 months. ;-) --ht:user:masterches
Excellent. I'm pleased to see that you are still active there, and will support your continued temporary adminship until a community can build long enough to come to some permanent solution. Cary. Cary Bass demandez 16:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

OTRS access


I'm not sure I'm in the right place to ask, but I can't find any better :)

I'm (temporary) admin of As part of my admin job I need to solve copyright issues. There's a lot of texts wich are derived (mostly translated) from other sources in wikibooks, and sometimes these sources are not free or GFDL-incompatible. So I need to contact to original authors for permissions to distribute these derivatives under GFDL and sometimes it is easier for the authors to send a letter to permissions@ than post some GFDL message on their site. So I'd like to get some access to permissions@ (and maybe permissions-commons@) address. Is it possible with my current admin status?

Ilya Voyager 09:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, please make your request at OTRS/volunteering. If you know any Russian OTRS members it is good to get their recommendation there as well. Hope this helps! Cary Bass demandez 15:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! :) Ilya Voyager 19:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Korean OTRS

ORTS for Korean Wikipedia is not yet made, would you create one? --Ryuch 08:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi! We need to do three things. Firstly we need to have at least two Korean Administrators, who are willing to keep up with OTRS, post to OTRS/volunteering and provide a bit of information, as well as send us separate emails. Secondly we need to set up the email address, and queue. Thirdly, you should add the email address to contact pages on the Korean Wikipedia so that you will have people emailing you! Cary Bass demandez 22:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Azeri Wikipedia : Vusal1981

Have a nice day. Vusal goes beyond the limit of vandalism on wikipedia. Vusal created pages above 10.000 empty articles. See; *

At the same time; Vusal here and here deletes the IP user's sign from the welcome message and put his own sign. Vusal's target is to show his name all the pages. Vusal owns the articles on wikipedia. Here he warns me because of the delete warning that I put (for licence and source), here] he gets angry for the deletin warning on the articles that created by him and contains only one word and he wants me not to do this, here he derides me and he says to me Your future is very clear., here he menaces me to be blocked, here he says to me stupid, here he says to me vandal, here he says to me liar, here he says to me Armenian because, Azerbeijani people don't like Armenians because of Nagorno-Karabakh, here he says to me What do you imagine you are?, here he blames me that I write his name is in a discussion.

And Vusal, here returns to the bad version that contains aspersion to Armenian people. --Uannis 11:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Okay. Cary Bass demandez 21:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

interwiki map - on the OTRS-wiki

Moved to Talk:Interwiki_map#otrswiki

wm2009 wiki

Hey Cary. Sorry to bother you, is it possible for me to get the +sysop on the wikimania2009 wiki so I can help along? I'm currently a enwiki and also a wikimania2008 sysop. Thanks! — E talk 07:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

E, I'm of the impression that you rarely if ever perform admin actions at the wm2008 wiki. Spend a few weeks deleting some of these nonsense pages on there, and we'll reconsider it then. :) Cary Bass demandez 00:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Help on usurping username on Meta

I found this page, but I'm a little confused on how to request usurpation of username Enigma. The account was created and never used. Enigmaman 18:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

See Meta:Changing username. Majorly (talk) 18:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I filed a request the best I could. Enigmaman 20:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The wikimania2009 wiki

Please can you make me a sysop there, so that I can help with cleaning-up of vandalism, and doing some MediaWiki edits?? I'll help out with things like the title blacklist etc, if you want! Hope this helps!! Thanks, AP aka --Kelsington 09:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe we should wait until we actually need this and we know who exactly will be working with Wikimania before we annoy Bastique to +sysop everyone. :P Cbrown1023 talk 22:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


Yes, that was me. :) Well, I guess someone with the same name as me both having an address in Edinburgh UK could be the editor that edits ja.wp. ;-P KTC 22:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikiquote en español

Por favor puede pasar por Wikiquote en español, el usuario WaaiaaW esta amenazando con que va a insultar a los usuarios y a vandalizar paginas [7]-- 18:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe this has been taken care of by Javierme. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Cary Bass demandez 19:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiMedia Labs

Hello there, I had an account on this test wiki, but I unfortunately forgot its password :P so I have created a new account here and I want to merge all of my accounts by SUL, but because I forgot my password on the test wiki I can't unify it with my main accounts, therefore I am asking that you let me usurp my account account on the test wiki and then block it as I forgot my password to it and then rename this account to Mifter. I have placed a page on the En Wikipedia here to verify that it actually is me. I am asking you here because on your talk page it says to refer all requests to you on your meta page. Thanks in advance, --Mifter 19:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing that you're getting ready to place that page on enwiki... because atm it doesn't exist. Cary Bass demandez 19:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I formated the Wikilink wrong, now it should point to the correct page :).--Mifter 19:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, you've been renamed. Make sure you put in an email address so you can retrieve your password in the future. Cary Bass demandez 20:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm testing FlaggedRevs--intended for Indonesian community, and developing help page of this article validation (see: id:Help:FlaggedRevs). I'd like to take screenshots of articles in bahasa Indonesia with installed FlaggedRevs. Is it possible to add me to "import" user group there, so I can make the test using an imported Indonesian article? Thanks. ~REX••talk•• 03:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

  Done This is something that can be done by any steward, but not by the local bureaucrat. Having said that, I've made the change and moved this request the requests for permissions noticeboard. Cary Bass demandez 16:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Appreciate for this :) ~REX••talk•• 14:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


Dear Bastique,

Excuse me if I interfere in a matter that does not concern me personally, but as a member of the Swedish Wikipedia community, I feel I have the duty to voice my disenchantment when the actions of a sysop is threatening to alienate a valuable contributor of our community. You know the basic facts of the case, and I will not reiterate them. Let me just make a few additions.

To begin with, in his message to sv:Islander, en:Islander states that as a matter of policy, he as a sysop has precedence. However, if you actually check the edit history of that policy, you will find that it was formulated on May 29.

Clearly aware of this recent change to policy (since he edited on that page on June 1), en:Islander asks User:Giddy for advice how to approach Islander, and the conversation shows that en:Islander has known about sv:Islander since February, that is a month after en:Islander usurped the account on English Wikipedia. Shortly afterwards, Giddy archives the discussion and leaves no trace on the userpage that this discussion has taken place.

To me, it looks like en:Islander is trying to game the system in his favor and that he has abused his status has administrator at English Wikipedia in order to set a precedent on a policy that has not yet been fixed. This is not the way we do things on Wikipedia.

I apologize if I have uttered any harsh words in various forums, but this is the first time I learned about this I feel that it is my duty to speak up. Sincerely, --Bothnia 01:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I emailed both users yesterday, in hopes that we can come to a resolution. I understand the situation fairly well, and I believe that it can be resolved amicably. However, accusations of "gaming the system" will not help the situation and I urge you to have faith that things will be treated fairly. It might appear that way to you, but it does not mean it's his intent. Cary Bass demandez 15:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope you are right, after what I have been through since yesterday, I have my doubts and will pull out for the time being. Since I started editing on Wikipedia two years ago, I have become acutely aware of the fact that ordinary users are routinely treated brusquely by sysops. All I have tried to do was to speak up on behalf of a member of our community, and I have effectively been told to shut up or else be blocked. On Swedish Wikipedia, administrators at least have to renew their sysop status on a yearly basis, but on English language Wikipedia it is virtually impossible to argue with an admin, which is why I have more or less given up editing on English language Wikipedia about a year ago. That's it. Good luck with the meditation, I hope you will at least consider the information I pasted above.--Bothnia 19:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


Could you correct my username at Identification_noticeboard. User:Mbisanz is a sockpuppet of mine that doesn't edit, User:MBisanz is my primary account. Thanks. MBisanz 08:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

done. Cary Bass demandez 23:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Sysop access at en.labs.wikimedia

Hi Bastique! I want to request sysop access at en.labs.wikimedia, to test the features, make screenshots and document the system messages at betawiki:. Thank you, SPQRobin 21:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

done. Cary Bass demandez 23:06, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Would it be possible to make me a sysop too? I will use them to test the features. You may have not seen me before, I’m an experienced editor on nowiki (with patrol, autopatrol and rollback access), and a sysop on nowikibooks. — H92 (t · c · no) 11:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. Cary Bass demandez 19:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Some Dutch problems

Sr. D. Cary Bastique: I am very sorry Sir to have to bother you, but unfortunately from Holland some stalking (sysop)people there keep being blaming and shaming me about nothing serious, as I already informed mrs. Gardner here, after asking for Help on the now locked desk .... They do proceed to metawiki here into the page of talk:Vandalism reports second part, so I feel no other way than to inform you too. Though feeling provoked but again apologizing, I 'll thank you in advance for your attention. Respectfully yours, I remain D.A. Borgdorff = IP 20:15, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

This is an issue between you and the nlwiki community, which is perfectly capable of dealing with this matter. Cary Bass demandez 20:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your fast reaction. With you, I still keep hope of dealing matters "well done". Kind regards et cetera: Borgdorff = 22:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm very unfortunate Sir to have to let you know that in the meantime nothing has done to solve the arisen problems, with exception of admin in Spain, but not in Holland. Sincerely: Borgdorff 01:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Op verzoek van User:Bastique via irc: D.A. Borgdorff: Op de Nederlandse Wikipedia (nl:Overleg:Hypothese van De Broglie) is u verteld dat uw zelf uitgegeven vertaling niet voldoet aan de eisen van nl:Wikipedia:Verifieerbaarheid omdat deze door niemand te controleren zijn. Ook heeft u een verwijzing naar uw vertaling toegevoegd op talen waar een Nederlandse vertaling niet eens relevant is. Derhalve worden ze op alle talen waar ze zijn toegevoegd ook verwijderd. Het (opnieuw) toevoegen ervan zonder eerst te beargumenteren waarom de verwijzing wel relevant zou zijn wordt dan ook als vandalisme beschouwd. Verder heeft erwin u op meta verteld dat daar niet de juiste plek is om de relevantie van uw verwijzing aan te kaarten (onder Talk:Vandalism reports#Witch-hunt). - Dammit 23:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Sir Cary Bastique, apparently you'd not want to reply yourself, and on my age I've never had chats or something like about an important scientific reference. If bias is more prominent than open discussion, I do have this comprehension enough to understand what matters are involved. I'd state only feel obliged to properly inform you of some controverses involved, that I'll have to effectively proper handled another way though. I'm unfortunately sorry to have your time disturbed. Sincerely: D.A. Borgdorff 23:22, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The above Dutch mentioned translation of the book from Masson & Cie, Éditeurs: René-Louis Vallée: L'énergie électromagnétique matérielle et gravitationnelle - Paris, 1971 - is not the problem itself, but was so notified ... it was the classified edition itself (with all kinds of occult translations) that is contested of as: en:fringe science with yawns from a couple of biased persons with prejudice.!! This bias is awarded though, unfortunately. Kind regards: D.A. Borgdorff, e.i. = 10:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Attention of mr. Cary Bass: Sir - I again like to thank you, and mrs. Sue Gardner as I did, for your collaboration regarding my remarks et cetera. Unfortunately there is only "non-discussion" possible in 'the' Netherlands, with a look-a-like no-sense blocking up again. - As I understand for now, only G'd can help us out of Egypt. - Concluding with kind regards, I am: D.A. Borgdorff - PEng = 10:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Question re: the basis for Jimmy's authority

Hi Cary - could you, or somebody else from the WMF, weigh in on this question? Thanks, Sarcasticidealist 16:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I would expect that Jimmy would be the appropriate person to respond to that question. Cary Bass demandez 15:36, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I dropped a note on his enwiki talk page a few days ago, so hopefully he will have a look at our discussions at some point, because I think that his involvement would be valuable. But even apart from the value of his involvement, there's a question that needs answering: is Jimmy's authority on enwiki a Foundation-imposed thing or a thing for the community to decide? Absent any declaration otherwise from somebody at the WMF, it seems to be the view of the enwiki community that Jimmy's authority is a community matter. If it isn't, somebody from the WMF should weigh in pretty quick. Sarcasticidealist 16:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Again, Jimmy is the founder and on the Foundation board. He's perfectly able to answer this question himself, and would be the appropriate one to provide the answer. Furthermore, I don't understand what the rush is, or why you've sought the need to bring this matter to Meta. Cary Bass demandez 16:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


Hi Bastique, sorry to bother you. I would like to ask your help in renaming me at [8] because you are, I think, the only active bureaucrat there. It is the last project where I need to be renamed before I unify my accounts. My username is Jota and I would like to be renamed to Jorge Morais. If you need any confirmation or the rename is not necessary just let me know. Thank you in advance. - Jorge Morais 14:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome message

Heh, yeah, thanks for that. n.n; Kylu 21:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Super Magical Person Brion commented btw! Yay! Kylu 23:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ident noticeboard.

Hi Cary! Can you add me here, pretty-plz? :) Previous confirm link here. Thanks! - Alison 09:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

  Done Cbrown1023 talk 16:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! :) - Alison 17:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Moulton's blog

If Moulton were of a mind to remove whatever content is hosted on his blog that is causing it to be unacceptable to link to it, what would he have do to accomplish this? —Random832 17:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you contact the enwikiversity community to discuss this. Cary Bass demandez 18:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
It's a "foundation directive"; I don't see how the community is relevant. —Random832 19:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Where do you see any directive by the Foundation? If you have a problem with the Wikiversity community you need to discuss it with them. Cary Bass demandez 20:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC) Edit summary "per foundation directive". —Random832 03:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

That edit summary is erroneous. There is no "foundation directive". The English Wikiversity, like every other active project is autonimous. If you want an answer on this, discuss the matter with the individual who performed that edit. Cary Bass demandez 15:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

one sided

Scenario 2 is one sided. Why not ask for an explanation from Moulton and then publish that so people get both sides. As for me, I still don't see the need to out anyone on the Ethics project itself. But BADSITES is a bad and unworkable policy proposal that was rejected by the Wikipedia community. How about a link to a page that contains a link to a page that contains a link to an outing page? It is unworkable and game-able to ban links based on outing at that page. Especially links that are useful for other reasons. Thoughtful, careful, caring assessment of competing values and priorities is appropriate. Unthinking blind adherence to any one value (like not outing) is by definition, unreasonable. WAS 4.250 20:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I emailed the only side I knew: my side in my position as Volunteer Coordinator, which is based on what I've seen and my perceptions of events. It's entirely relevant to the conversation. I doubt either "side" would consider what I said, their side. I would like to stress that foundation-l is an open email list and anyone is free to join and participate in the discussion. Cary Bass demandez 02:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
"the only side I knew: my side" Exactly my point. WAS 4.250 13:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Then your point makes no sense. I'm not going to have debates about core values about our project, that I hold, including the right to pseudonymous participation; in which "not outing" is an affront, and I'm not going to lend credibility by participation to a project that I'm increasingly (seven emails overnight from its leader and an unrelated individual from Wikipedia Review to add to that) is nothing more than a platform (despite your own involvement) to give legitimacy to his personal (and pointless) crusade to out English Wikipedia participants with a political leaning that he and most of the world's scientific community and population already don't agree with.Cary Bass demandez 15:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
WAS 4.240, I think the key point here is that Cary has raised an issue that we do need to think about... with a community of different wikis, with different norms, how do we reconcile that. How much voice should people have in wikis where they have no activity at all? How do we reconcile the difference in how different wikis get things done? What if that difference impacts people globally? These are all valid questions. Reading too much into exactly who did what to who in a specific instance may not be the best approach. ++Lar: t/c 18:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
WAS, I don't think Cary is the potential bad guy here (not saying that Moulton is, either). BADSITES thankfully was killed on, but local projects are sovereign of each other and should make all their own local decisions there. If Moulton's blog is a seen as a problem on wikiversity, it should be brought up there, really. rootology (T) 01:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I think everyone involved is doing the best they can to be helpful. But "I'm not going to lend credibility by participation to a project that I'm increasingly (seven emails overnight from its leader and an unrelated individual from Wikipedia Review to add to that) is nothing more than a platform (despite your own involvement) to give legitimacy to his personal (and pointless) crusade to out English Wikipedia participants with a political leaning that he and most of the world's scientific community and population already don't agree with" is a wild unsubstantiated accusation and hubristic point of view and incorrectly claims we have a "leader". No one is asking Cary to "lend credibility". Just stop interfering with a research project that is creating learning resources on the subject of "Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia" at WikiVersity. No one elected him Grand Censor Almighty. WAS 4.250 12:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Get over your high and mighty self. I am talking about the thread on founfation-l which you are whining about not being fair. Well, this is how I see the games that this person is playing on our projects and to which you are either wittingly or unwittingly contributing. I was actually "expecting better" from you, WAS, but it seems your going to support his abhorrent behavior blindly. With that frame of mind, there's nothing more you need to say here. Cary Bass demandez 15:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I respectfully disagree with your unsubstantiated assessments of him, me, and the ethics project. If you read all the on-wiki conversation between Moulton and myself you will find many many examples of me doing the opposite of supporting him "blindly". You need to stop creating drama by creating problems where none exist. BADSITES is not policy. Emails to you complaining that someone is violating a nonexistent policy is the problem of the person sending you the email; not your problem. Not WikiVersity problem. However "there's nothing more you need to say here" is a problem for you as it indicates a closed mind; suggesting you already know everything you need to know and have no reason to learn more. Which might explain a lot of your behavior, that appears to substitute prejudice for facts. WAS 4.250 19:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, WAS, it seems we're both reading a lot into what each other is not saying, re "unsubstantiated assessments" and on-wiki conversations and who I am or am not speaking with. I know that I could say the exact same for you, only switching around a few sentence objects or subjects, so we're at an impasse. Kindly stop insinuating you have any idea how my mind functions. I started this thing with an open mind. Certain individuals playing games with me quickly gave me an perspective. Cary Bass demandez 20:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
It is certainly true that it could be me who is wrong here. Likely we are both part right and part wrong. But in any case, I still think everyone involved in this is trying to help WikiMedia projects. WAS 4.250 12:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I apologize if I came across that I felt as if you, WAS, aren't trying to contribute in a positive manner. It is not the case at all, but my frustration with the whole situation colored my reaction. I'm stepping back from it, as I have an abundance of other projects which are occupying my time. Cary Bass demandez 17:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification. I also feel very frustrated with this whole thing. Just a tad more reasonableness from either Felonious Monk or Moulton and we would be very much better off. They are both very stubborn. WAS 4.250 19:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it is that simple :-)

I saw your comment this morning, but you haven't reappeared on IRC and I'm having a very "AFK" sort of day. But yes, the bloom clock really is that simple... here's what you do:

  1. Add yourself to the contributor's list
  2. If you see a flower, you can either use the global keys or if you know the common name just use search to find the profile.
  3. when you find the plant you saw, just hit the little edit thingie next to "recent logs", and add *~~~~ at the bottom (some of the old log pages will show a bit screwy, but just add it under the "recent logs" header if you run across that).

And that's it, for the start. After you've logged 10 plants, we make a new set of regional categories and keys, and ask you to add a template to the profiles when you log to trigger the categories (which enables us to use some mediawiki extensions that keep your local keys up to date). It's definitely a good way to "get into" WV, since it's designed for learning, teaching, and conducting research with each edit :-). --SB_Johnny|talk|books 16:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Temporaly sysop access.

(If you don't understand this message, please tell me and I'll rewrite) -- Dferg (talk) 21:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC) Estimado señor o señora.

Me dirijo a usted con el propósito de que me informe si procedería que yo solicitase acceso temporal de "sysop". Mi intención es crear mi commitment scheme y dado que creo que es una información bastante importante creo que la página debería ser protegida desde el principio. El problema sería que si la protejo desde el principio con mis credenciales actuales no podría editar la página. Creo conveniente proteger la página antes de editar en ella ya que la variación de una simple letra o número del hash cambiaría por completo mi identidad.

Mi solicitud sería de 2 semanas para así aprovechar y hacer algo de mantenimiento extra. Agradecería que me respondiese en mi talk page de meta ya que mi talk page de la es-wiki está protegida por vandalismo reiterado.

Muchas gracias. -- Dferg (talk) 21:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

  Not done NO se necesita ser sysop para crear un esquema de identidad criptográfica. Busca en google calculadoras de hash es:Drini 16:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Además, ESWIKI tiene un procedimiento establecido para candidaturas a sysop. es:Drini 16:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
No se trata de una candidatura, sólo un permiso temporal para realizar cosas que yo no puedo hacer (proteger las páginas). Se están malinterpretando mis palabras de una manera un tanto extraña. No es por ofender pero si lo pido es:
  • Por seguridad.(proteger la página y editar en ella para evitar pérdida o manipulación de información)
  • Por comodidad.(Se ahorra el tener que avisar para proteger, que me confundo, otra vez desproteger y así todo el día...)

Ya sé que no se necesita ser bibliotecario para crear un esquema criptográfico, mis motivos quedan ahí expuestos, lo único que yo quiero es que no se malinterpreten mis palabras, se trata de un permiso técnico. Acepto el rechazo pero parece que se están intentando llevar mis palabras a un terreno peligroso. Gracias por la comprensión. --Dferg (talk) 19:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

No hace falta proteger la página con el esquema. El historial garantiza la inviolabilidad del mismo (salvo que no confíes en los programadores de mediawiki, en cuyo caso la ptrotección tampoco te defendería mucho) es:Drini 20:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Confío plenamente en los programadores de MediaWiki pero como usted dice muy acertadamente en su página: En un mundo como Internet donde las transacciones no son cara a cara, vale bien guardarse las espaldas. --Dferg (talk) 20:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
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