Talk:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal

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[Bug][Design] Confusing use of placeholders as labels

Status:    Done

In the Organizational Information Form for Affiliates (after clicking an “update” button on Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/Organizations Information – I tried it with WMDE), the Social Media and Blog/News section has three fields (see screenshot) which aren’t labeled. If I remove the values (or, I suppose, if I was adding a new organization instead of editing an existing one), I can see the placeholders: “Facebook URL...”, “Twitter URL...”, and “Blog/News page...”. But if there are any values in the inputs, I can’t see that, and am left to guess whether these are supposed to be three arbitrary URLs or if they fulfill distinct roles. I think these placeholders (and possibly others in the gadget, I haven’t reviewed it thoroughly) should be replaced with proper labels, and then real placeholders that look like the intended values (e. g. https://example.com) could be added. (Code-wise, the first part should be as simple as replacing placeholder: with label: in parts of MediaWiki:Gadget-reportOrgInfoForm.js.) --Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 18:31, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for feedback Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE). This will be reviewed by the team and you'll get feedback once this is moving forward for implementation. Thank you very much! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 18:41, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE), team has reviewed and we'll improve on the form. Thank you very much for your feedback. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 15:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE): As a quick solution for now, I'm circling back to you to let you know that, we've added tool tips per input field to say what each field would contain but we'll stream down the form in phase II of the project and include labels as you've suggested. Thanks for your suggestion and have a great day! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 17:31, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

While doing some cleanup and general improvements, this was fixed with the use of inline TextInputWidget. Thanks for reporting User:Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE). Marking as resolved. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 13:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

[IMPR][Design] UI tweak suggestions for images and staff section

Status:    Done

Hallo :) I suggest making 2 changes.

1. The "M&E staff submissions" div is only useful for (and usable by) Monitoring and Evaluation staff, but it is currently the 3rd div on the page. I suggest converting it into a plain-text section at the very bottom of the page, so that normal users aren't distracted by it. E.g. A ==See also== section and 2 list-item links.
2. The icons in the corners of the 4 divs are confusing, because in other contexts clicking on a "(i)" icon will make a tooltip pop-up. I suggest adding |link= to these images, so that they cannot be clicked on (cf mw:Help:Images#Altering the default link target, and note that these icons are licensed as CC-0 so do not need to be linked elsewhere on the page for attribution).

Cheers. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:55, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your feedback Quiddity (WMF). This will be reviewed by the team and you'll get feedback once this is moving forward for implementation. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 09:09, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Quiddity (WMF), thanks again for your feedback. The team has reviewed and we'll make this improvement in this current phase of development of the product. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 15:36, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Quiddity (WMF), point 2 (you suggested and been done). As for point one, attempting to keep the design, do you think a stackable card rearrangement will do? See image:

WADP rearrangement of stackable cards

. On mobile view, the M&E related stackable card will be at the bottom and not distract users and on desktop, it will be on the bottom right hand corner, enabling what is used by users to be shown first. Do you think this direction is good in order to keep the design intact? --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 16:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@DAlangi (WMF): Yup, that'd work. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Quiddity (WMF): Thanks for confirming. I've completely processed this feedback. Point 1 & 2 as suggested done. Please let us know if there is more feedback you have in the future to make the system better. Have a great day! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 17:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

[Design] WADP main OOUI form grey background to skyblue

Status:    Done

Hi User:DAlangi_(WMF) and User:DNdubane_(WMF),

Congratulations on launching the WAD Portal! It must feel great for all of your hard work to have finally paid off. It really looks amazing!

We have one tiny (I think) request...if it's not tiny, then just tell us :)

For the WAD Query Results pop-up, can you make the band behind the result at the top a color other than grey? Maybe a shade of blue? Visually, grey makes things recede into the background so its good for sidebars and instructions, but for highlighting the results, I think a blue or even black with white font would be better.

--User:Delphine_(WMF) & User:SRamkisson_(WMF)

Marking this as public and confirming as resolved. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 12:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

[FEAT] Multiple language version and quarterly report submissions

Status:    Done

There are two things I'd suggest:

- Please track language versions. If multiple languages are available, it would be nice if they can be connected. It would also be helpful to identify languages in the report.

- Be generous with the 'other' option. For example, you now only allow monthly and annual reports. Would you discourage quarterly reports to be shared? Or three-year reports? I know those may not be required by WMF, but they may be produced for different purposes. I imagine you would want those to be shared too?

--on behalf of User:Lodewijk via mailing list

@Lodewijk: let us know by testing forms (by submitting test reports) if the feature as implemented looks reasonable and addresses your concern. Thanks --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 13:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

[Bug] Privacy

Status:    Done

I am very surprised that each time I view a form, it makes an edit on my behalf. For instance, I have just clicked on Search affiliates data, and this page made an edit on my behalf here. I checked with my bot to make sure I did not agree with it without noticing (I clearly never viewed this page and did not approve anything with my bot account) and it made an edit as well. This form does the same for unregistered editors.

This is a blatant violation of the Privacy policy and usual Wikimedia rules, as it was never stated that there will be a public record associated with my account that I viewed this specific page at this specific time. Even worse, I could have made it anonymously from my corporate VPN yesterday (why would I log in if I am not making any edits?) and accidentally disclose my IP address. There are at least two major problems:

• No script should make edits on my behalf without my explicit agreement. Even scripts where I am supposed to implicitly agree (e.g. WiDaR) ask me each time to provide permission on a special page on MediaWiki. This script must explicitly ask me to provide permission to edit pages on my behalf.
• We never publicly record that this specific person (account or IP) viewed this specific page at this specific time. Sharing this information publicly (that's what this script does) is not justified with any provision in Privacy policy#When May We Share Your Information?. While I am completely fine with my visit to this page being recorded for analytical purposes, I am not OK with it being publicly recorded and associated with my username.

Please fix this ASAP as this is absolutely not acceptable. Thanks — NickK (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

It's really not clear where this is actually happening. I've emailed the team to flag it and point them to your post. Reedy (talk) 17:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Reedy: I already emailed the team. This is happening in MediaWiki:Gadget-arpQueryForm.js, the postWithToken parts — NickK (talk) 17:11, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

It is unacceptable to store a public log of PageView information - the script has been removed from the gadget list and the privacy-leaking page has been removed from the history. I think I don't need to blank the entire offending gadget page. — regards, Revi 17:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Reedy:, @NickK: & @-revi:, the gadgets are making reports submissions on behalf of the users who submitted the report, this is a alatered form of preserving page revision history. We are interested in simple analytics of system usage and query views. We are switching off the gadget trackers while we figure out how to count the edits/views without logging the usernames. We will update this section once that has been corrected. thank you for bringing this to our attention.-- DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 18:01, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Gadget trackers all disabled! ✅ --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 18:28, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@-revi: shall we enable the gadgets and test? Best regards --DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Reedy:, @NickK: & @-revi:, we would like to get the query gadget up and running again. Can either of you enable and test. We do not want to be re-enabling on our side.--DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 12:56, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@DNdubane (WMF): As I have already said on Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat#Privacy policy violation at Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal, one tracker is still in MediaWiki:Gadget-arpQueryForm.js. You really should remove it first I think — NickK (talk) 12:59, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@NickK:, thanks the remaining script has been removed, thanks for picking-up.--DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 13:18, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I am probably going to be pretty busy for rest of this week, so if (any of) NickK, Reedy, other interface admins, or anyone with MediaWiki Core +2 permission says they're fine with the current status, you have my blessing to proceed. — regards, Revi 14:15, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

@Reedy:, @NickK: & @-revi:, bumping this up again, we need to get the form back online. Best -- DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 20:36, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I am not an interface admin here on Meta, so I cannot have a final say here. This particular script looks fine to me, but I think that other scripts of this portal may have the same tracking. There are too many trackers created by @DAlangi (WMF): that have the same issue: Module:WAD QueryPortal FormUsage Tracker, Module:Activities Reports/FormUsage Tracker, Module:Financial Reports/FormUsage Tracker, Module:Organizational Informations/FormUsage Tracker, Module:Organizational Informations/FormView Tracker, Module:Financial Reports/FormView Tracker. It would be great if someone with advanced rights checks whether they are in line with our policies — NickK (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@NickK: The trackers have all been removed from the gadgets. Users with necessary rights can confirm this. Thanks --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 16:03, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @NickK: for the oversight, @Reedy: or @-revi:, is any of you able to check and then enable the form? We really need the form up again. -- DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 16:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Reedy: or @-revi:, Checking if any of you are able to assist with this. We have the interface rights (Derick has) to activate the form, but would rather get that done by one of the community stewards, or at least get all checks clear before we do! -- DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 17:09, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Feel free to proceed. LGTM. — regards, Revi 17:22, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

@-revi: thanks for the go ahead. I've just re-added the gadget again. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 16:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

[question] contacting all affiliates at once

Status:    Done

Hi there. is mass messaging Global_message_delivery/Targets/Affiliations_Committee/Affiliates the only current way to officially contact all the affiliates right now? Thanks. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:15, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

And to elaborate on my message - I'm not sure why that list contains entities which IIRC are no longer recognized. I can't find a list of former affiliates as well so that I could exclude those from communications. Thanks. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 10:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Elitre (WMF):, that is indeed the list used and maintained by Affcom. I don't think its up to date though. You can find an updated list of Formerly Active Affiliates, to check against. --DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 13:45, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Elitre (WMF):, I have just updated the mass mailing list. --DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 14:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

[question] Can you please create a language filter?

Status:    Pending/To-Do

Hey, when contacting affiliates, I would like to be mindful of their language preferences. While all of them are supposed to have some proficiency in English, I'd like to be able to answer questions such as "Which groups have Arabic as native language?" or "Which groups would rather be contacted in fallback language here rather than in English?". TYVM. (cc DNdubane (WMF).) --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Elitre (WMF), we've discussed about this and queued this up in our to-do list. We'll work it and if there are any questions for more insights, we'll get back to you. Thanks! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 13:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Really appreciate it, TY. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 13:57, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

DAlangi (WMF), maybe I should expand my request to cover also geography? "Who are the affiliates in South America?", and similar. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Elitre (WMF), thanks for these ideas. The geography part is already covered and we've implemented into the system. All we need to do is add more queries/sub-queries to match a certain reasonable request to a user wanting to find insights into the data. What is missing is the country part which will be implemented soon.

All you need to do is write down the kind of questions (queries) that you want to see implemented feeding on the geography data and we'll implemented those :) --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 16:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

When you say it's implemented, that doesn't mean I should already be able to use it, correct? (Because in case, I haven't figured out how :p ) I think that the questions above kinda cover what I usually need to know about affiliates. I think there's also a question of "what's the best way to contact one or more of them privately and without going through WMF staff first"... --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

The usage of "country" and "geographical region" depends on the questions you want to ask. You can check the query module and see that some queries are geographically related. For example "How many recognised Wikimedia Affiliates exist?". I've recorded the 2 questions you proposed above. But if you have more, let us know :) --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 17:18, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

OK, confession time - I really did not expect that a query about "how many" would also tell me "where they are". I'm seeing that picking that question opens the stage to actually getting more data, and that's at the same time great and, again, unexpected! Consider this a usability issue report, then :p --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:25, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Okay Elitre (WMF), thank you very much. The idea was to have queries and sub-queries. We can have as many queries as we want and many sub-queries as we want. There are a lot of query ideas but we just need to structure them so that they're easily navigable and under the right category. Please let us know if you find any query or sub-query that isn't under the right category.

But yes, the idea of having more queries per region or country is also good and we'll work on it. NOTE: We can really have so many queries depending on what insight we want to get. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 20:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

[Design] UI changes on WADP main page

Status:    Done

Hi 1234qwer1234qwer4,

Thank you very much for the changes you made on the WADP main page. Sorry I reverted them but there is a better way we can play with this. Can we do it using a sandbox then copy paste the changes onto the main page?

I'm planning to work on this page soon as it's not very pretty at the moment but if you want to make improvements, you can do it on a sandbox page and then copy paste it over to the main page to not break things when the system is being used. Thanks! :)

Let me know what you think. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 12:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again 1234qwer1234qwer4, can we play over here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:DAlangi_(WMF)/Sandbox/WADP_v4? Thank you! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 12:22, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't know a lot of HTML, so feel free to compare my version with other solutions you can think of. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

@DAlangi (WMF) Not sure about you, but this is how the page currently looks for me. I found out that removing the <div style="width:75%;float:left;height:auto;" class="mobile-width-reset"> which was only containing another div with the same parameters as well as a right-float div removed the overlapping elements at least, but if you're planning to fix this yourself soon in some way I will not interfere. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:25, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I really appreciate you bringing this up @1234qwer1234qwer4. I'm not especially proud of the UI on some screens, let me show you how it looks over here. On smaller screens, it doesn't render properly but on larger screens it does. I'll invest sometime today to actually fix these issues, I'll revert back to you with progress so you can test and let me know. Thank you very much! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 12:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, it does indeed look more similar to your version if I set my font size to 90 % (I normally use 120 %). Note that the leftmost element's content is far from being centered even in your screenshot, though, which was the reason for my second edit. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:43, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi 1234qwer1234qwer4,

Let me know how the page looks at your end now. I've done a redesigned and this time around considered all screens. Thanks! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 00:26, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, the new version looks good. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:21, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Awesome! I'm glad you like the improvements @1234qwer1234qwer4: glad you raised the issue, prompted me to act on it sooner than I had planned. Thank you very much. Have a nice time and enjoy the product. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 19:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

[Bug] Restore translations

Status:    Done

Hello! Currently, the translation system is broken on this page, because content has been moved to a template by a copy-paste instead of a real page move. To fix it, I see two possibilities.

As I don’t understand why the content should be located in Template namespace, I recommend to simply replace whole Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal content with template one. I would already apply this fix if the page would not be protected.

However, if you want to keep current system (main page only contain a template call, and a template has the full content):

1. Move Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal to Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal/temp
2. Undo “migrate diff”.
3. Move Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal to Template:Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal. You need Translation admin rights. This may take some time.
4. Replace whole new template content with /temp one.
5. Recreate Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal with {{Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal}} as only content.

In both cases, a translation admin must then re-mark the page for translation. -- Pols12 (talk) 17:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@DAlangi (WMF): --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 02:34, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Pols12 & Minorax,

It's located in the Template: template namespace because of the mechanism of styling a page via template styles, see: Template:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Data_Portal/styles.css. You can read more about template styles here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:TemplateStyles.

It's true that the page can't be translated now since it's been moved to a template and transcluded back to the main page. Now, I think the way forward is just translating the template directly here: Template:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Data_Portal and the translations will be reflected on the main page.

After reading the steps you suggested above, it looks like that will work so I'll go ahead and do it right away and leave a feedback here if everything works okay. Thank you very much, I appreciate! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 12:49, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Pols12 & Minorax, I've done the migration but the only issue now is that the translatable pages in the template isn't showing in the main page, only English is showing, any way to resolve this? Thank you for your assistance. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 14:15, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

According to logs, a problem unfortunately occurs during the move and source page has not been moved. All translations seem to have well been moved, I hope that’s OK.

Also, I don’t understand why you used PageMigration for French translation because this tool is expected to import pages which did not use Translate extension (typically pages created before 2013), this is not the case here. You should use this tool carefully because it needs an extensive manual check of the imports (this is currently the mess in /fr page, but fortunately easily fixable).

Anyway, there is no need to be in Template namespace to work with TemplateStyles, they well work in main namespace too (I admit the name “TemplateStyles” is confusing). Since the page has no content (only a template call), it cannot be “translated”, that’s why we can’t change the language.

So, since you have removed the protection, I am moving back the “template” to main namespace to fix this final issue.

Doing... -- Pols12 (talk) 22:08, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Done That seems OK this time. Can you review the page, @DAlangi (WMF) please?

I think we should finally merge histories for current page and /old on one hand, and both talk pages on the other hand. Do you agree? -- Pols12 (talk) 22:48, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Pols12, everything looks good (not seeing any glitches for now). Yes the histories can be merged. Thank you very much! --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 11:56, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

I've merged the talk page histories. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:47, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much User:1234qwer1234qwer4 for your support. I appreciate and I wish you a Happy New Year 2022. --DAlangi (WMF) (talk) 15:31, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

[Bug] Report form is not designed for meta affiliates

The report form is very cumbersome for affiliates that cover a large region or a thematic topic. It does beg the question why the report form is fixated on affiliates that only cover one language or one community. Would it be possible to ask more relevant questions of thematic or regional affiliates in a different form? Braveheart (talk) 16:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Board members and executive director

Dear all, do we have comparative information about board members (number, duration and election mode i.e. rotation) and executive director (who has it and mandate)? As Wikimedia Italia we would like to change our charter and to do it we would like to have a look at other chapters. Thanks for letting me know. maybe @Laurentius do you already have data about it? iopensa (talk) 13:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Iopensa: I don't know if there is a systematic overview. Regarding specifically the executive directors, a few years back I made a survey of the mandates and approaches to evaluation (mostly the second one) across different organizations. If I remember correctly, I put some materials in the board's shared directory in Wikimedia Italia's Nextcloud. It's 5+ years old though, and many things changed in the meantime. Laurentius (talk) 18:07, 9 December 2023 (UTC)