Requests for comment/IP-Info for global groups
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This RFC is intended to clarify the introduction of the IP Info extension into global work.
Background
The WMF plans to mask IP addresses of people who are not logged in. This has advantages, but also disadvantages. Some users need IP addresses to check if they are vandals, or to combat vandalism. Understanding logbook entries of abuse filters is also only possible to a limited extent without IP addresses, as many abuse filters contain IPs/IP ranges and this information is no longer visible. This can lead to false positives not being detected. (old talk) --𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 16:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Contents
Abuse filter helpers / maintainers maintain abuse filters or help with this. Some also have this for working with global abuse filters. Seeing the IP addresses is important for this group to evaluate entries in the logbook and detect false positives or improve filters using the data masked in the future.
Comments
edit- Support Would often be helpful for this work, and users in this group are trusted users. I would feel very uncomfortable writing filters if I didn't have decent information on whether a filter was needed (can it be solved with a range block, and other questions), specifics on who it would be targeting, connections or themes in targeted anonymous editors, or other relevant factors that IP info (under IP masking) could provide context on. Vermont 🐿️ (talk) 15:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 15:36, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per Vermont --Johannnes89 (talk) 08:42, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Global rollbackers are usually members of the SWMT and revert vandalism and report this to stewards or administrators. Up to now, GR evaluate the IPs themselves with external tools, e.g., Proxy Checker, Bullseye etc. This will no longer work in future and the work from SWMT members without GS or steward rights will restrict.
Comments
edit- Support IP info access for Global rollbackers makes sense to me, as the group's purpose is to allow its members to fight with vandalism more effectively by granting them some more rights (rollback's the most important, but the group also grants other helpful rights, like skipcaptcha, movestable and suppressredirect). --Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, obvious need. I honestly don't think this needs discussion; adding IP-info rights to the relevant user groups is part of implementing the tool, especially as we get closer to IP masking, and this would happen with or without a RfC. More relevant is the AFH discussion. Vermont 🐿️ (talk) 15:12, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Per above. Definitely would help anti-vandalism work. --SCP-2000 15:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 15:36, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per Martin and Vermont. JavaHurricane 11:47, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - --Daniuu (talk) 22:10, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support useful for them. Stang 22:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support A necessary tool to help combat vandalism. --*Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page ♮ 01:59, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per Vermont, but I also don't think this needed an RfC. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:36, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply] - Support WMF if I am not wrong just wanted community scrutiny on candidates that will hold this access, and I think the SRGP process is more than adequate. Note that in some smaller wikis sysops can be, albeit temporarily, elected without any community inputs so I think GR having 5 days of attention is adequate. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 06:56, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong support per Camouflaged Mirage. → αѵίɾαʍ7 ([ʆεt'ς tαʆƘ🇮🇳])← 07:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --Johannnes89 (talk) 08:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong support Per all of the above. Tryvix1509 (talk) 11:22, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong support —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 11:27, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]