Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Translation/Support copying references to other languages with the correct format

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Support copying references to other languages with the correct format

Problem: The field tags and their order of placement in a citation vary from language to language
Proposed solution: An easily accessible toolbox by which any editor can copy a citation reference into one of two parallel boxes; define the source and target languages; drag and drop the content from first box to the second box, in which the corresponding tags are highlighted/matched and listed in proper order
Who would benefit: everyone translating articles from one language site to another
More comments:
Phabricator tickets: task T243150
Proposer: Baekemm (talk) 00:03, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Thanks for your proposal! Could you clarify the context to Thesaurus? We use Thesaurus to find synonymes of words. I am curious about how this is related to the citations. Also am I assuming correctly that your proposal is related the Translate Extension? @Baekemm: KSiebert (WMF) (talk) 11:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps I used the word thesauraus incorrectly. The term "concordance" might be more appropriate. Here is an example (from two articles about Mary Nighy) of the same reference in two different wikipedias. Modifying one (or usually more) "<ref>" for re-use in an imported and translated article always takes time to edit and I wonder whether it could be done more efficiently with some sophisticated tool:

*:en.wikipedia *:<ref>{{cite web | url=http://www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/14334 | accessdate=22 May 2009 | title=Breakthrough Brits | date=30 May 2008 | publisher=[[UK Film Council]] | url-status=dead | archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110609204759/http://www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/14334 | archivedate=9 June 2011 }}</ref>

*:de.wikipedia *:<ref>{{Internetquelle |url=http://www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/14334 |titel=Breakthrough Brits |archiv-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110609204759/http://www.ukfilmcouncil.org.uk/14334 |archiv-datum=2011-06-09 |werk=ukfilmcouncil |abruf=2023-01-22 }}</ref> *:

(I am not familiar with Translate Extension, so I can't answer the second question)

@KSiebert (WMF) Kind regards, --Baekemm (talk) 17:11, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here is second example of the different templates for the same literature reference used at different wikipedia sites (article about Betye Saar)

*::en.wikipedia *::<ref name=":5">{{cite journal |last1=Dallow |first1=Jessica |title=Reclaiming Histories: Betye and Alison Saar, Feminism, and the Representation of Black Womanhood |journal=Feminist Studies |date=2004 |volume=30 |issue=1 |pages=75–113 |jstor=3178559 }}</ref> *::
*::de.wikipedia *::<ref>{{Literatur |Autor=Jessica Dallow |Titel=Reclaiming Histories: Betye and Alison Saar, Feminism, and the Representation of Black Womanhood |Sammelwerk=Feminist Studies |Band=30 |Nummer=1 | Jahr=2004 | Seiten=75–113 |JSTOR=3178559 }}</ref> *::

--Baekemm (talk) 21:42, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the proposal @Baekemm!

Based on the discussion above, I'd propose to rename the proposal to "Support copying references to other languages with the correct format". Feel free to suggest an alternative if you think it is not helping to clarify or does not reflect the purpose of the request.
@Pginer-WMF Yes, the new name is much clearer. Thank you!--Baekemm (talk) 15:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This proposal seems also related to a more broad proposal about support mapping templates across languages as they are pasted in Visual Editor. In this case, would it solve the original problem if you could copy the English "Cite web" reference and by pasting it to the German article the "Internetquelle" reference was created there with all the information copied to the equivalent parameters?
That is correct. If minor edits are still needed, that would still be easier.--Baekemm (talk) 15:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Currently you can try how automatic template mapping works in Content Translation. There is also a related exploration for editors to be able to correct/augment the mapping information since the automatic mapping relies on metadata and won't cover all parameters for all templates. Pginer-WMF (talk) 10:42, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Support Strainu (talk) 20:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fallbackintoreality (talk) 20:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) (talk) 22:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Franz.wohlkoenig (talk) 06:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Pallares (talk) 06:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support User:CarolingianCitizen (talk) 07:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Vsevyshnii (talk) 07:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Remy34 (talk) 09:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support OtherPrivacyGuy (talk) 10:46, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Plaga med (talk) 11:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Smetanakaviar (talk) 12:09, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Useful. I had problems with changing the references MoreInput (talk) 12:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tiputini (talk) 13:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Bluerasberry (talk) 15:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support CROIX (talk) 15:23, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Litev (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Conny (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dotruonggiahy12 (talk) 19:01, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wyslijp16 (talk) 21:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Nehaoua (talk) 22:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support --NGC 54 (talk｜contribs) 01:05, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wiki-uk (talk) 09:23, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support EiersalatmitGurken (talk) 14:36, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support CsanMan31 (talk) 17:13, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jusore (talk) 21:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Libcub (talk) 05:54, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support AyourAchtouk (talk) 13:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wargo (talk) 20:57, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support JAn Dudík (talk) 21:48, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support PenangLion (talk) 06:11, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Just N. (talk) 14:48, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support ZandDev (talk) 18:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Michal30 (talk) 19:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support VegBird3 (talk) 10:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wikiusuarios (talk) 19:43, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Aishik Rehman (talk) 08:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support مهدی بهرامی مطلق (talk) 09:17, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Eugeniamcabral (talk) 10:42, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support JFremd (talk) 16:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:42, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support SamuelInzunza (talk) 18:19, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support would be useful Tbartovic (talk) 20:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ds77 (talk) 22:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support β₁₆ - (talk) 15:57, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Winschu (talk) 22:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support So many translated articles lack citations. Hopefully this could help with that. Wracking (talk) 02:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dmytro Tvardovskyi (talk) 03:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kpjas (talk) 07:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fabius Lector (talk) 10:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Lupe (talk) 14:21, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 15:34, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jotamide (talk) 15:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support This should be useful for translating pages into other languages. Thingofme (talk) 16:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 16:11, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Gdafs (talk) 16:24, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support WhinyTheYounger (talk) 20:37, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support The person who loves reading (talk) 21:37, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jj14 (talk) 11:53, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support cyrfaw (talk) 15:40, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Czupirek (talk) 21:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Althair (talk) 01:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support — Draceane ^talk_contrib. 12:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Eli0030 (talk) 14:20, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support T. Wirbitzki (talk) 18:43, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Mop66 (talk) 19:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tutwakhamoe (talk) 20:05, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Qxyz123 (talk) 04:09, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support It would be beneficial for all languages, and all users, given more time to deal with other necessary issues. Tris T7 (talk) 19:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Logret de Carlin (talk) 20:06, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Silva Selva (talk) 23:20, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support ABAL1412 (talk) 04:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kalendar (talk) 06:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support ;) Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:05, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Trillo.gm (talk) 13:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support مرتضا (talk) 15:24, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Podzemnik (talk) 18:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Emilej01 (talk) 04:04, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Daniel Case (talk) 05:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support منى ناصر ثابت علام حُزين (talk) 15:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
SupportThis will be very useful for underrepresented languages Dnshitobu (talk) 21:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:48, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 04:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support OGPawlis (talk) 10:28, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]