Meta:Requests for translation adminship/Eva Martin (WMDE) 2

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Eva Martin (WMDE) (talk • contribs • deleted user contributions • logs • block log • abuse log • CentralAuth • stalktoy) Bureaucrats: user rights management.

As a Wikimedia Deutschland staff member I frequently create and edit project pages on meta. I would like to be able to mark these pages for translation to make our content and the information we share with the Movement accessible for non English speaking audiences. My first request was denied due to my lack of proper knowledge concerning on-wiki translations. Since then, I studied the help page on translation administration and learned with the help of Léa Lacroix how to properly prepare pages for translation and edit pages already marked for translation. You can verify my work in the following project pages:

I would appreciate if you could consider my request, and of course let me know if there is something I should still learn and improve. Thanks in advance! Best, --Eva Martin (WMDE) (talk) 08:22, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral I have still got some concerns:

On “Wikimedia Deutschland/Movement Strategy and Global Relations”, you fully broke the page translatability.
On “Wikimedia Summit 2022/Online platform”, you did not comply with the recommendations about headings. Also, the <languages/> should be at the top of the page. The remainder of the segmentation is fine.
On “Wikimedia Deutschland/Decentralized Fundraising, Centralized Distribution”, you provided some tweaks which were not real improvements in my opinion (since the unit only contain a link, it may be fine to only wrap the link text; also the recommendation is to use a digit as tvar name for a link targets), whereas there were other improvements which could be made (see @Pppery’s changes).
On “Wikimedia Deutschland/The Future of Wikimedia Governance”, your both edits (1, 2) are clearly wrong in regards to internationalization.

-- Pols12 (talk) 13:53, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Pols12. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Thanks a lot for pointing out the issues, and fixing some of them. I just wanted to mention that some of the edits you listed have been performed in November 2022 or January 2023 ; in the meantime, I gave Eva an intensive training, and her latest contributions are much more in line with the community rules and guidelines. Speaking of guidelines, we tried to keep track of the various community guidelines, and I took the opportunity to update my knowledge about some of them that got updated in the past few years (for example, to not wrap a header in its own translate tags and have it as part of the paragraph instead), and some of my "old" knowledge may persist in the earliest edits of Eva. We both learned a lot, and I believe that she is ready to autonomously mark pages for translation.

I'm aware that having more staff individuals to work only on "their own" pages is not really what the community needs on Meta - but I guess it is still better than having page maintainers not being able to mark for translation, possibly leaving those pages outdated and poorly translated. We all want to build a set of great, multilingual documentation pages, and affiliate staff can contribute to that, even if they start with a limited set of pages. Thanks for your understanding, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 16:57, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have only reviewed the mentioned pages. Indeed, they probably do not show Eva’s recent capacity building.

Translate markup syntax is really complex (worst: guidelines are not applied in the same way through WMF wikis), we surely miss a training tool.

Note having translate tags inside heading syntax has ever been discouraged, but this technical recommendation is unfortunately still not applied, especially by WMF staff and sysadmins which are not granted through this RFA process. -- Pols12 (talk) 14:49, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support like last time --Ameisenigel (talk) 19:32, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support the reasoning given by Lea Lacroix (WMDE) seems convincing enough. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 07:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support AlPaD (talk) 07:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done - concerns have been addressed. --MF-W 11:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]