Meta:Babel/Archives/2021-12

The discussion vote about the licenses for Abstract content and Function Implementations

“Event”:	The discussion vote about the licences for Abstract content and Function Implementations
When:	Until 2021-12-15 09:59:59 UTC guaranteed.
Links:	Discussion vote • Concept • Concept as the practical example

The vote questions

What	Licence
Abstract content	CC-BY-SA vs CC0? Or anothers?
Function Implementations	Apache vs GPL? Or anothers?

✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 17:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Let's help Rehman

Hi all; let's support our colleague Rehman, he is a great Commoner and Wikipedian, and currently is in a critical economic situation. Here you can support; any donation and sharing this campaign is highly appreciated. Regards --A.Savin (talk) 02:10, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Enable WikiLove at Meta-Wiki

Hi, I am here to propose enabling WikiLove at Meta-Wiki. The reason is probably similar to other sites - give Meta-Wiki users a relatively friendly set of templates to improve the friendliness between users. The configuration could be similar to that on enwiki. Stang 23:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

No additional comments apart from the fact that this was already discussed at length and rejected before (cf. previous proposal, not sure about others). Best, Sgd. —Hasley 00:22, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Apologize for not making a search before post a new proposal here. Just wondering, why it is thought as "a toy" or "a game", is it just because Meta-Wiki is not a content-based site? Stang 01:39, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I would prefer that it went through an RfC than a request here, due to the previous conversation.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I'd prefer not to enable it. My views have not changed since 2012. We now have a thanks feature, in addition to the old personalised talk page message of appreciation. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:18, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

No thanks, but agree that if this is wanted do a regular RfC. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Really isnt needed. You can use those templates without it being part of the interface. Vermont (talk) 19:23, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Isn't is mostly useless templates that are in the WikiLove extension? I think it's only a enwiki thing, so no thanks. Stryn (talk) 08:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

WikiLove is available to all editors at about 50 public wikis, plus a few private and test wikis (specifically: arwiki, azwiki, bnwiki, bnwikisource, ckbwiki, commonswiki, testcommonswiki, enwiki, enwikivoyage, eswiki, eswikivoyage, fawiki, fawiktionary, hewiki, hewikiquote, hewikisource, hewiktionary, hiwiki, huwiki, hywiki, incubatorwiki, iswiki, itwikiquote, itwikivoyage, jawiki, kowiki, mediawikiwiki, mkwiki, mlwiki, newiki, nlwiki, nowiki, officewiki, outreachwiki, orwiki, pawiki, ptwiki, sawiki, sewikimedia, siwiki, slwiki, sqwiki, sqwikiquote, srwiki, svwiki, svwikinews, tawiki, testwiki, trwiki, ukwiki, urwiki, viwiki, wikitech, zhwiki, zhwikivoyage, zh_yuewiki). It began originally as a user script or gadget at the English Wikipedia, but it was converted to an extension and is now available to any wiki that requests it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Making the Reply tool available for all

The [reply] tool is now available (default-on) for all users at all WMF-hosted wikis except Meta-Wiki, Wikispecies, and the Russian and English Wikipedias. It's a popular tool and has been used to post more than 500,000 comments on the wikis so far, 100% of which were signed and ::::indented. You can see people using it in RecentChanges.

If you want to try it out, then click https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel?dtenable=1 to reload this page, and look for the [reply] buttons after each signature. If you want to use it on all pages, then go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures and turn on "Discussion tools". The link and the Beta Feature include several other tools, such as [subscribe] and a simplified tool for creating a ==New section==. I think that automatic topic subscriptions would be particularly good for Meta-Wiki (so people will get notified about replies even if they aren't pinged and without needing to remember to check their watchlists on Meta-Wiki), but only the [reply] tool itself is ready to be deployed now.

I'd like to ask the Editing team to deploy the [reply] tool the next time they're making a config change (could be next week, could be when it's deployed to enwiki in January). Before I do that, I wanted to let you know and make sure that I hadn't missed any significant problems. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): I've been using the beta (opt-in) feature for quite some time here, and I find it helpful; so no concerns from me. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:20, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't care for it, but as long as it is opt-in, no big deal - so sure. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:40, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I think we should turn this on as an opt-out – on by default for everyone, and you can turn it off if you don't want it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

This has finally happened. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): I've deactivated the Beta Feature from Preferences. It looks it's working as before (using it right now to reply). Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion has the prefs. With the Beta Feature off, I don't know if you will see the full list (e.g., for topic subscriptions). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): This is what I currently see at my Preferences with the Beta Feature off: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34909653.

Also, now that we're at it, I'm not sure why but the reply link ain't working at wikt:lmo:Wikizzionari:Bar for some reason.

Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Reported the lmo.wiktionary issue to phab:T298830. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

It looks like that's been fixed. mw:Help:DiscussionTools/Why can't I reply to this comment? has a list of the most common problems. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:08, 6 February 2022 (UTC)