User talk:Trijnstel/Archive/2021

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Steward requests/Global

Hi, you're the steward who protected the page, so I'm writing to you, even if I don't know exactly whom I should write to about this matter. I've seen that there're requests for global blocks, locks and hiding written days ago, even weeks, the oldest go back to January. Why does no steward take care of them? I'm not saying that the requests must be checked daily, but if this isn't done even weekly something doesn't work properly there, imho. Stewards aren't so few, are they?

Let me add a little off-topic: I've tried writing in your Dutch talk page, because this was empty and you don't come here as often as there, but I couldn't because my ip range was blocked indefinitely. The motivation is that this ip range belongs to a proxy. This is totally false, the ip range is provided by "Telecom Italia Mobile" which is a very big mobile operator in Europe. You can check that none of its ips belong to proxies by checking on IPQS. I don't now why a Dutch sysop could commit such a big mistake, but after reading what I've written I think that you should have understood that it was an error that now should be repaired. Can you do it please?

5.171.97.92 17:24, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Dear anonymous user, as I'm an administrator as well on the Dutch Wikipedia too and saw this coming I might reply here too. I looked up what the block reason was exactly and it's this one. This page explains that the entire IP range is used by a mobile operator. As we had a lot of abuse coming from these kinds of networks, editing from them has been blocked. IP's from users from these kinds of networks can change within minutes, which makes anti-vandalism efforts a whack-a-mole game. Therefore I personally don't see this as an issue. The same also advises one to make account from a non-blocked IP, as these blocks won't hit registered users. It's not very likely that the block will be lifted. Kind regards, Wiki13 (talk) 17:43, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Wiki13 I've read your reply. Thank you for explaining. If I'm allowed to speak frankly, is there any other Wikipedia besides Dutch that made such a harsh choice? To me, it looks like a way to take fewer responsibilities by restricting users' rights. Actually, Portuguese Wikipedia has recently abolished completely the possibility to edit without being registered, I suppose for a similar reason. I'm sorry to see that the free encyclopedia, as time passes, is becoming less and less free, imho.

5.171.97.92 18:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem. I don't see it as neccasarily restricting users' rights. The only IP's blocked for an indefinite amount of time are proxies, or networks that are really prone to abused as a sort of semi-proxy (mobile networks have really dynamic IP's so an user can return to vandalizing really quick after a block). We have a No open proxies policy for open proxies. I am aware you could argue with "Non-static IP addresses or hosts that are otherwise not permanent proxies should typically be blocked for a shorter period of time, as it is likely the IP address will eventually be transferred or dynamically reassigned, or the open proxy closed" that dynamic IP's which can change ownershop within minutes shouldn't be blocked, but in the end the local community decides on such cases. If this really hampers your ability to edit, I would suggest emailing info-nlwikimedia.org so that they might be able to help. Kind regards, Wiki13 (talk) 19:47, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Of course, every community inside Wikipedia can give itself its own rules. I think that blocking every ip range including dynamic ip addresses is an excessive measure, but I have no interest in editing Dutch Wikipedia, I only wanted to report a mistake and you told me it wasn't a mistake. Thanks again for your explanation.

5.171.97.92 22:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Unlock request

May I request you unlock my account? You globally locked it for being a sockpuppet. I apologize for my behavior and I will promise to stick to only one account. I will wait for 6 months on my home Wikipedia because it’s not the right time for me to return. If unlocked, I will edit constructively on other projects for 6 months and wait for 6 months without socking. I will also appeal any other blocks on projects I’m blocked on. I emailed stewards but nobody answered, unfortunately. —34.99.115.120 20:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't want to discuss this with you. You could try contacting the English Wikipedia checkusers via UTRS. Trijnstel_talk 09:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Overlegpagina spammer?

Dag Trijnstel,

Op WikiWoordenboek worden sinds een week vanaf telkens andere IP-adressen nieuwe Overlegpagina's toegevoegd met onsamenhangende niet-Nederlandse teksten die deels in cyrillisch schrift, deels mogelijk daaruit getranscribeerd zijn geschreven. Hier is een [=newusers lijstje]. Er zitten geen hyperlinks in, maar ik weet niet wat er verder zou gebeuren als we de pagina's lieten staan - ik verwijder ze nu met het argument "niet geschikt voor een woordenboek". Ik weet niet of wij de enige wiki zijn die zich in dit type bijdrage mag verheugen en of er een strategie achter zit die ik niet doorzie, maar het leek me in ieder geval nuttig het onder je aandacht te brengen. Misschien houdt het de komende weken vanzelf weer op, maar dat valt nu niet uit het patroon af te lezen.

Als het aanhoudt, is er mogelijk een filter voor te maken, maar ik ben niet voldoende doorkneed in de techniek om die vanuit scratch zelf te schrijven en de bestaande filters zijn (begrijpelijkerwijs) afgeschermd, zodat de leercurve voor mij nu iets te steil is om het zelf te proberen. --MarcoSwart (talk) 10:14, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Ik heb de de link naar het lijstje bijgewerkt; het wordt gestaag langer. Vandaag kwam er een nieuwe variant bij: het toevoegen van een nieuw kopje aan een bestaande overlegpagina. Het lijkt te gaan om Russisch teksten die deels naar Latijns alfabet zijn omgezet. De teksten worden nu wat begrijpelijker en hebben een duidelijke politieke ondertoon, getuige de tekst op "Overleg: Sovjet-Unie". --MarcoSwart (talk) 11:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

@MarcoSwart: Het zegt mij vooralsnog niks (als het gaat om bekende spammers). Nu ben ik geen filterdeskundige, maar wellicht dat Lymantria of RonaldB kunnen assisteren? Trijnstel_talk 11:42, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hallo @MarcoSwart: Ik heb geen rechten op nl.wiktionary, maar een filter dat bijvoorbeeld Cyrillische tekens op een overlegpagina tegenhoudt en het IP voor korte tijd blokkeert moet tot de mogelijkheden behoren. Ik zag wel dat er geen enkel filter actief is. Lymantria (talk) 16:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Dag @Lymantria:, dank voor je reactie. We hadden tot op heden genoeg aan de zwarte lijsten van links en de globale filters op bewerkingen. De steile leercurve die ik hierboven noem is vermoedelijk de reden waarom we nog geen eigen filters hebben. Maar ja, de gestage groei die we doormaken doet zich ook bij de ongein voor. Wat we zouden willen tegenhouden zijn bijdragen op overlegpagina's die afkomstig zijn van IP-adressen en in meerderheid uit cyrillische tekens bestaan. Ik kan niet goed beoordelen hoe ingewikkeld dat laatste technisch is, maar het is voor een woordenboek wel handig als in overleg enig cyrillisch schrift mogelijk blijft. Als je mij een voorbeeld van zo'n soort filter kan bezorgen (liefst met wat commentaar in de tekst) ga ik er graag mee aan de slag. --MarcoSwart (talk) 21:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Ik ga daar voor je aan werken, maar wel even geduld (vrij druk IRL) en ik weet niet zeker of wat je wilt ook precies kan. Lymantria (talk) 05:23, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Block Appeal

The following request is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hi, can you please unblock me? I was blocked on April 1, 2021. I will shape up on the different wikis. Thank you. --24.251.26.66 01:11, 17 April 2021‎ (UTC)

Please email stewardswikimedia.org. I don't want to decide on your block onwiki and will let others look at it. Trijnstel_talk 07:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Done. --24.251.26.66 11:17, 24 April 2021‎ (UTC)

For those who read it, the email can be found here. Trijnstel_talk 13:45, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Info: This is a Long-term abuse. 𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 11:04, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I thought on my email? Like Google Mail. --24.251.26.66 04:08, 27 April 2021‎ (UTC)

Hello? --24.251.26.66 03:01, 29 April 2021‎ (UTC)

Info: Because he wants to attract attention with small edits and thereby changes foreign contributions at discussions, have i the IP locally blocked. --𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 07:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Trijnstel_talk 09:07, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021

Greetings,

I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 26 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 14:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021

Greetings SWMT member,

I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 10 July, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 03:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

'Scuse me for a minute:

There's a user claiming to be you on Miraheze. Did you create an account on Miraheze, or no? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:29, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@DarkMatterMan4500 and Dmehus: No, that's not me, I haven't even heard of Miraheze and was practically offline since 22 June. Trijnstel_talk 10:51, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Trijnstel I figured that out anyways. The impersonator has since been locked for impersonation. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:23, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Good to know. Thank you. Trijnstel_talk 13:28, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Also, I requested locks for SonicLine1 and SonicWaveInfinity as they appear to be possible socks of UnderArmourKid, if you don't mind locking them. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:42, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Done. Trijnstel_talk 13:41, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:15, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Female stewards

Apparently TNT, who was a steward for one, is a female. So you actually had 2 for a period in 2019 before TNT went radio silent in the confirmations. Leaderboard (talk) 16:50, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@Leaderboard MF-Warburg was a steward from 2013 to 2019. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:12, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Well if she is a female, that is new information to me. Leaderboard (talk) 14:20, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

😐 Apparently, his user preference is a joke per off-wiki discussion. Sorry. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:43, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

@Leaderboard: Hi! Didn't know TNT is a female as well. Good to know then. Trijnstel_talk 22:22, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Cree Wikipedia

He, Trijnstel. Kun jij hier als steward naar kijken? De Cree Wikipedia krijgt het kennelijk niet zelf voor elkaar dit geteisem te blokkeren. We kregen een melding op en.wiki, maar de mods daar kunnen er niets mee.

"Obvious troll is obvious. Blatant spamming of the Cree wikipedia. Several pages such as [[1]], [[2]], [[3]] etc urgently need to be cleaned from the Cree subwiki. There is rampant vandalism and I believe it will take more than one person to help this situation. JezzaHehn (talk) 15:47, 21 August 2021 (UTC)"

Groet, Kleuske (talk) 15:59, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

ik had beter moeten lezen. Fijne vakantie en kom heel weer thuis. Kleuske (talk) 16:02, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

@Kleuske: Geeft niet. Ik was al wel weer thuis, maar heel druk. In ieder geval heeft Hasley het in de tussentijd opgelost. :-) PS. Alles goed met je? Trijnstel_talk 15:57, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Hasley heeft het uitstekend opgelost. Ik ontving een juichend bedankje, dus men is zwaar tevreden en daarmee ben ik het ook. Hasley, als je dit leest, mag Trijnstel de vertaalde complimenten doorgeven. Alles prima aan deze kant. Kleuske (talk) 07:34, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Grobal lock

Please global lock me. I am sock puppet of Sidowpknbkhihj (ja:LTA:HEATHROW). --Ivoory432 (talk) 11:48, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

This has been done by Wiki13. Trijnstel_talk 12:06, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Discussion about CentralNotice Adminship inactivity and membership

Hello Trijnstel. There's an ongoing discussion happening on Meta:Babel that proposes changes to existing Meta:Central notice administrators practices. In particular: membership duration and inactivity. As a current volunteer central notice administrator, your participation in the discussion would be appreciated. Thank you, --MarcoAurelio (via MassMessage) (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

SRG archives

Hello, hope you are well and stay safe. Seeing you had manually archive, would it be more suitable to go to the weekly archive Steward requests/Global/2021-w43 as nowadays we do by week archives. Best, Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:47, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: Ah, good to know. Shouldn't we also change the links to the archives, then? I mean, in the upper right of SRG there's a link to the monthly archive - which I followed. Perhaps we should adjust the script so that it uses the links to the weekly archives, then? In any case, I'll move these requests to the other archive. Trijnstel_talk 13:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it should. Let me figure out how to change that as my script knowledge is quite minimal. It's confusing indeed. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Freenode link

Hi Trijnstel, when I just looked at your userpage I noticed the irc link still links to freenode, because its manually done instead of via the template. As we've fully moved on from freenode would it make sense to update it to point to irc://irc.libera.chat/wikimedia-stewards or to convert the raw link to using {{channel}}, which also includes a convenient link to the webchat? Asartea ^{Talk (Enwiki Talk (preferred))} 19:13, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

@Asartea: Good point! I now changed the url into the template. Trijnstel_talk 15:10, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Sock?

Hi Trijnstel, Could I ask is Leonthis another sock of Nauthis?, Over at Commons they seem to have made similar edits as Nauthis[4], I don't know my way around Meta so figured it'd be quicker to ask here, Many thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 19:25, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

He Leonthis is not a puppet user Leonthis (talk) 18:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Well this matter has since been deferred to Steward_requests/Global#Global_lock_for_Leonthis so they will deal with you. –Davey2010^Talk 22:21, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Davey! The two accounts are confirmed to each other. Best, Vermont (talk) 22:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC)