User talk:Martin Urbanec/Archives/2024

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Martin Urbanec in topic Gerrit


Hello, Martin. Is it allowed on Meta to name a user as a troll? Asorev (talk) 11:45, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Your feedback is requested

Hello Martin Urbanec, We are conducting a poll of global renamers and stewards regarding some future toolings related to some rename requests. Your feedback is requested at the poll on VRT WIKI. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 00:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


Hi Martin, are you still processing campaing events beta testers? I put myself on the list as I'm an outreachdashboard admin and trying to support some requests. Didn't think I should self-grant. It looks like this will soon be a meta-wiki admin function, but isn't yet. — xaosflux Talk 11:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Xaosflux, thanks for the question. Me processing the campaign events beta tester requests was always intended as a temporary solution to open the tools to a group of beta testers, until it is figured out who should handle organizer access rights in the long term. The transition from the beta testing mode is currently on the way (tracked as phab:T356070). For the duration of the transition, it was decided to not process new beta-testing requests. For any questions, please feel free to reach to @Udehb-WMF (Campaign team's Community Relations Specialist) or @IFried (WMF) (Campaign team's Product Manager). If your beta tester request is particularly urgent, it can likely be granted even now, but I'd defer to the team before hitting the buttons  . Hope this make sense. Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:45, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
No it's fine, this just happened to coincide with the RFH thread where meta-admins are going to take this over soon - I can wait and won't care about self-assigning then. — xaosflux Talk 18:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Xaosflux, I just want to let you know the migration happened. Admins are now able to manage the group (it is now called event organizer). Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, dear Martin Urbanec! How are you? I would like to draw your attention to the request for comment that I made in July, 2023. As the situation has deteriorated since then towards the open vote fraud by the bureaucrat, a timely consensus on the part of stewards has become even more essential for the implemention of rules in Belarusian Classical Wikipedia. Best wishes,—W (talk) 11:01, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Steward election announcement

Hi Martin Urbanec,

I was wondering where the elections were announced as I am currently active in several projects and on none I became aware of the elections by some official announcement. On Meta the elections get announced over the Main page, but I doubt many of the active Wikimedians in the many sister projects visit the Meta Mainpage. At commons for example the important issues such as the technical survey or the wiki loves folklore are announced at the watchlist, also the sysop elections in the English get announced over the watchlist. In the Alemannic wikipedia the Good articles candidates get announced at the watchlist. There were also some comments about the low voter turn out in the steward elections. I believe it is better to announce it well perceivable for the different projects. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 12:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Paradise Chronicle,
Thank you for reaching out! The elections are announced by a central banner. A screenshot of this banner is available at [1]. The banner is configured to display at all Wikimedia projects, however, individual users might opt-out of seeing some or all banners via their preference (or block them via a gadget, or similar). I'm unsure if something similar happened to you as well. That being said, a central banner is likely the most visible place where an event or activity might be announced, hence, we went with that option. It is also the same method using which other movement-wide voting/elections are announced, such as the UCoC ratification vote.
For people who do not visit the wikis often or who disabled their banners, we also announce the elections via the wikimedia-l mailing list (see the message I sent on February 06).
If you have any other ideas about where SE2024 could or should be announced, please let me know!
--Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, thank you for the reply. It's the first time I read about the banners and when I checked them, I had them all activated. I can go to any project, let's say the French one where I have only edited a few times, and there is no Steward election announcement perceivable for me, at least not there where Sysop elections and other events are announced on other projects I edit. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Just a little update. For others the banner/"central notice" is not visible either. @Ferien (sorry for the ping) for example also doesn't see it on the English Wiki. But wrote that he saw it yesterday. The announcement to the current RfA at the English wikipedia is well visible to me though. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:32, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Now I saw the banner for a few moments at one page of the English wikipedia, when I checked at another page I did not see it and when I returned to the page I have seen it, it was gone again. It was not at the watchlist, but at a regular article. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
What you are talking about regarding enwiki RfA notifications is en:WP:Watchlist notices -> en:MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages. That's something each local community needs to do individually.
For global notifications CentralNotice can be used, which is the case for the steward elections. I could think of three reasons why you are not seeing the banner:
  • Special:CentralNoticeBanners/edit/stewvote is only shown to desktop users (according to phab:T214773 because the script is not working properly for mobile users).
  • Impression diet [2]: One individual will see the banner only two times per cycle (one cycle being one day). This is done in order to not annoy people. If you miss the banner (e.g. by clicking away to another page), you'll probably not see it again until the next day.
  • Traffic limit [3]: currently the campaign is set so that only 45% of the total incoming traffic (siteviews) can see the banner. I don't know the reason though.
Generally it should be up to local communities to spread awareness about the steward elections – which is what many communities do:
Johannnes89 (talk) 22:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
I use a Laptop, which believe is not a mobile. But thanks for the really detailed reply that explains a lot. I'll see if I can be of help.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks @Johannnes89 for chiming in! To provide a bit more context, the traffic limit is a standard thing (CentralNotice/Usage_guidelines says it should be <50% unless explicit consensus exists to do otherwise).
Ad the banner, it is also possible that some adblocker software @Paradise Chronicle uses might consider the central banner as an advertisement, and prevent it from displaying. Unsure whether that might be the cause though. Browsing Wikipedia logged-in, but from an incognito browser window, likely would show the banner if the ad blocker is the case.
Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
I have no adblocker nor do I edit from an incognito browser window. There are many possibilities how the Steward elections banner can be blocked. Is this done so on purpose? The sysop elections, the events are visible very well, why not the steward elections if it concerns the whole Wikimedia community? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
@Paradise Chronicle At the global level, the steward elections banner is not blocked in any way (quite the contrary). I am able to see it without issues at both Wikimedia Commons and English Wikipedia (the two projects you have the most edits on); it displays once in a couple of pageviews, but it is there.
The banner might be blocked by individual projects and/or individual wikimedians, but that is beyond the control of the Election Committee. If you cannot see the banner (see screenshot at at any Wikimedia projects, it is highly likely that your account and/or computer is configured in a way that prevents displaying the CentralNotice banners. The incognito window was a suggestion for you to try (not a possible cause) – if the banners do not work while browsing normally, but they do work in the incognito window, then something in your browser prevents the banners from displaying. You can also achieve the same result by trying browsing Wikipedia in a different browser.
As @Johannnes89 mentioned before, besides the CentralNotice banner, the propagation of elections is pretty much up to the local community. The Election Committee cannot order Wikimedia projects to give the same space to steward elections as they do to sysop ones – it is beyond our control. What we can affect is the banner, which is regularly displayed during the steward elections.
Sincerely, Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your reply. Then it's likely a personal configuration I don't know what buttons I pressed. Happened to me in the past as well. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
A little follow up. Now I can see it announced with a banner quite frequently across several projects. If I adapted anything, I don't know what it was. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Stewards/Elections 2024

Hi, can you please stop my stewardship request? Turkmen talk 07:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


Hello dear Martin. Could you please view this task? Your approval is needed. We want to establish file discipline in Azerbaijani Wikipedia, can you check it if possible? We have been waiting for 2 weeks. Turkmen talk 06:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Turkmen, thanks for the review. Reviewed on Gerrit. Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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