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أهلا Kubura ، ومرحبا بك في ويكيميديا ميتا ويكي! يعمل هذا الموقع على تنسيق ومناقشة كل مشاريع ويكيميديا. ربما سيكون مفيدا لك مطالعة صفحة السياسات هنا. إذا كنت مهتما بأمور الترجمة، راجع ميتا:بابلون. يمكنك أيضا ترك ملاحظة في ميتا:بابل (من فضلك راجع أولا التعليمات هناك قبل ترك الملاحظة). إذا أردت الاستفسار عن شئ ، لا تتردد في سؤالي في صفحة نقاشي. تمتع بالتحرير هنا!

Hola Kubura! Benvingut a la Meta-Wiki de la Fundació Wikimedia! Aquest lloc està fet per a coordinar i discutir tots els projectes de la Fundació Wikimedia. Potser us serà útil llegir la nostra pàgina de polítiques (en anglès). Si us interessen les traduccions, visiteu Meta:Babylon. També podeu deixar un missatge a Meta:Babel o al Meta:Metapub (però abans de fer-ho, llegiu les instruccions situades al principi de la pàgina). No dubteu en preguntar si teniu qualsevol dubte. Si cal ho podeu fer en la meva pàgina de discussió. Bona sort!

Vítejte, uživateli Kubura, a vítejte na Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Tento server je určen pro spolupráci a diskusím ke všem projektům nadace Wikimedia. Možná si budete chtít přečíst naše pravidla. Pokud chcete spolupracovat na překladech, navštivte Meta:Babylon. Také můžete přidat příspěvek na Meta:Babel či Meta:Metapub (nejdříve si přečtěte pokyny na začátku těchto stránek). V případě potřeby se neváhejte zeptat se na mé diskusní stránce. Hodně štěstí!

Hallo Kubura, und Willkommen bei Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Diese Webseite dient der Koordination und Diskussion aller Wikimedia-Projekte. Vielleicht findest Du es nützlich, unsere Regelseite zu lesen. Sofern Du daran interessiert bist etwas zu übersetzen, besuche Meta:Babylon. Du kannst auch eine Notiz auf Meta:Babel oder Meta:Metapub hinterlassen (bitte lies die Anleitung am Anfang der Seiten, bevor Du etwas schreibst). Wenn Du möchtest, kannst Du mir auch auf meiner Diskussionseite Fragen stellen. Fröhliches Bearbeiten wünscht

ވިކިމީޑިޔާގެ މީޓާ-ވިކީ އަށް މަރުހަބާ! މިވެބްސައިޓަކީ ވިކިމީޑިޔާގެ ހުރިހާ މަޝްރޫޢުތަކާއި ބެހޭގޮތުން ވާހަކަތައް ދެކެވި އެ މަޝްރޫޢެއް ހިންގައި ހަދާ ވެބް ސައިޓެވެ. އަޅުގަނޑުމެންގެ ޤަވާއިދުތައް ފުރަތަމަ ވިދާޅުވުމަކީ މުހިންމު ކަމެއް ކަމުގައި ދެކެމެވެ. ތަރުޖަމާކުރާ ހިތްޕުޅުވެވަޑައިގަންނަވާ ނަމަ މީޓާ:ބެބިލޯން އަށް ވަޑައިގަންނަވާށެވެ. އަދި ހަމަ އެހެންމެ މިކަމާއި ބެހޭ ލިޔުމެއް މީޓާ:ބޭބެލް ގައި ލިޔުއްވަވާށެވެ. (އެހެންނަމަވެސް އެޞަފްޙާގައި އެއްވެސް އެއްޗެއް އިތުރު ކުރެއްވުމުގެ ކުރިން އެ ޞަފްހާގެ މަތީގައިވާ ޢިބާރާތް ވިދާޅުވެލައްވާށެވެ.) މިއާއި މުދު ހިތްހަމަޖެހިވަޑައިގަންނަވާ ނަމަ އިތުރު އެހީ އަށް އެދުމަށް މި ޞަފްހާ ގައި އެދުމަށް ފަސްޖެހި ވަޑައި ނުގަންނަވާށެވެ. އުނިއިތުރު ގެނައުމުގައި އުފާވެރި ވަގުތުކޮޅެއް ހޭދަ ކޮށްލައްވާށެވެ!!

Hello Kubura, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Meta:Metapub (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing!

Hola Kubura! Bienvenido a la Meta-Wiki de la Fundación Wikimedia! Este sitio es para coordinar y discutir todos los proyectos de la Fundación Wikimedia. Tal vez le sea útil leer nuestra página de políticas (en inglés). Si le interesan las traducciones, visite Meta:Babylon. También puede dejar un mensaje en Meta:Babel o Meta:Metapub (pero antes de hacerlo, por favor lea las instrucciones situadas en lo alto de la página). No dude en preguntar si tiene cualquiera duda, o pregunte en mi página de discusión. Buena suerte!

Hei Kubura, ja tervetuloa Wikimedian Meta-Wikiin! Tämä nettisivusto on kaikkien Wikimedia-säätiön projektien koordinointia ja keskustelua varten. Saattaa olla hyödyllistä lukea käytäntömme. Jos olet kiinnostunut käännöksistä, käy Meta:Babylon-sivulla. Voit myöskin jättää huomautuksen Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub -sivulle (ole hyvä ja lue ohjeet sivun yläosassa ennenkuin kirjoitat sinne). Jos haluat, saat vapaasti kysyä minulta kysymyksiä keskustelusivullani. Iloisia muokkaushetkiä!

Bonjour Kubura, et bienvenue sur le Meta-Wiki de Wikimédia ! Ce site a pour but de coordonner et discuter de l’ensemble des projets Wikimédia. Il vous sera utile de consulter notre page sur les règles de Wikimédia. Si vous êtes intéressé par des projets de traduction, visitez Meta:Babylon. Vous pouvez aussi laisser un message sur Meta:Babel ou Meta:Metapub (mais veuillez d’abord lire les instructions en haut de cette page avant d’y poster votre message). Si vous le voulez, vous pouvez me poser vos questions sur ma page de discussion. À bientôt !

נכתב בלשון זכר למען הנוחות
היי Kubura, וברוך בואך ל- ויקימדיה מטא-ויקי! אתר זה נועד בכדי לתאם פעולות ולדון בפרויקטים של וויקימדיה. יש להניח שדפי המדיניות שלנו יהיו שימושיים עבורך. אם הנך מעוניין לבצע עבודות תרגום, בקר ב-Meta:Babylon. תוכל גם להשאיר הערה ב-Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (אנא קרא את ההוראות בראש הדף לפני כתיבה שם). אם תרצה, הרגש חופשי לרשום לי שאלות בדף השיחה שלי. עריכה נעימה!

Helló Kubura, és üdv a Wikimedia Meta-Wikijén! Ez a weboldal az összes Wikimedia projektet érintő ügyek megtárgyalására és koordinálására szolgál. Hasznosnak találhatod elolvasni az irányelveinket (angolul). Ha szeretnél fordításokat végezni, látogasd meg a Meta:Babylon-t, vagy a Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, oldalon hagyhatsz üzenetet (mielőtt ide írsz kérlek olvasd el a lap tetején található utasításokat). Ha szeretnél, nyugodtan kérdezz tőlem a vitalapomon. Jó szerkesztést és tartalmas szórakozást! Jó szerkesztést és tartalmas szórakozást!

Halló Kubura, vertu velkomin(n) á Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Þessi síða er til að ræða saman um öll Wikimedia-verkefni og samhæfa þau. Kannski finnst þér gagnlegt að lesa stefnusíðuna. Hafir þú áhuga á þýðingum er Meta:Babylon rétti staðurinn. Þú mátt skrifast á við okkur í Meta:Babel eða Meta:Metapub (vinsamlegast lestu notkunarreglurnar áður en þú breytir síðunni). Hikaðu ekki við að hafa samband við mig á spjallsíðu minni ef þú hefur einhverjar spurningar. Gangi þér vel!

Halo Kubura, dan selamat datang di Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Situs web ini berperan sebagai tempat koordinasi dan diskusi mengenai seluruh proyek-proyek Wikimedia. Mungkin akan bermanfaat bagi Anda untuk membaca halaman kebijakan kami. Jika Anda tertarik untuk melakukan penerjemahan, kunjungi Meta:Babylon. Anda juga dapat meninggalkan pesan di Meta:Babel atau Meta:Metapub (bacalah petunjuk di bagian atas halaman tersebut sebelum meninggalkan pesan di sana). Jika perlu, Anda dapat bertanya kepada saya di halaman pembicaraan (talk page) saya. Selamat menyunting!

Ciao Kubura! Benvenuto sulla Meta-Wiki della Wikimedia Foundation! Questo sito serve a coordinare e discutere di tutti i progetti della Wikimedia Foundation. Potrebbe esserti utile leggere le nostre policy (in inglese). Se sei interessato a fare traduzioni, visita Meta:Babylon. Puoi anche lasciare un messaggio su Meta:Babel o Meta:Metapub (ma per favore, leggi le istruzioni che si trovano all'inizio della pagina prima di scrivere). Se vuoi, puoi lasciarmi un messagio nella mia pagina di discussione. Buona fortuna!

Kuburaさん、ウィキメディア メタ・ウィキへようこそ！このサイトは、ウィキメディアのプロジェクト間の調整や話し合いを目的としています。もしよろしければ、ポリシーページを是非ご一読下さい。もし翻訳に興味をお持ちなら、Meta:Babylonをご覧下さい。Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub にメッセージを投稿していただくことも可能です（投稿前にページ上部の説明をお読み下さい）。もしよろしければ私のノートページに質問をお寄せ下さい。

Kubura님, Wikimedia Meta-Wiki에 회원가입하신 것을 환영합니다! 이 사이트는 모든 위키미디어 프로젝트들 간의 상호조정(coordinate)과 토론을 위한 공간입니다. 우리의 정책을 보면, 도움이 되실 겁니다. 만약 번역에 관심이 있으시다면, Meta:Babylon을 방문해 보세요. 또한 Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub 을 사용하실 수도 있습니다. (사용하시기 전에 바벨의 사용설명란을 먼저 읽어주세요). 만약 궁금한 것이 있으시면, talk page에 질문을 올려주세요. 즐거운 편집이 되시길 바랍니다!

Hai Kubura, dan selamat datang ke Meta-Wiki Wikimedia! Laman web ini adalah untuk mengkoordinasikan dan membincangkan segala Projek-projek Wikimedia. Anda boleh mendapati bahawa membaca laman polisi kita adalah berfaedah. Jika anda berminat dalam membuat penterjemahan, sila melawat Meta:Babylon. Anda juga boleh meninggalkan pesanan di Meta:Babel atau Meta:Metapub (sila baca panduan di atas laman yang berkenaan sebelum meninggalkan pesanan). Jika anda mahu, tanyalah soalan di laman perbualan saya. Selamat menyunting!

Hallo Kubura, en welkom op de Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Deze website is voor het coördineren en bespreken van alle Wikimedia-projecten. Waarschijnlijk vind je het handig om onze beleidpagina te lezen. Als je geïnteresseerd bent in het vertalen van teksten, ga da naar Meta:Babylon. Je kunt ook een bericht achterlaten op Meta:Babel of Meta:Metapub (lees wel de instructies aan het begin van de pagina voordat je een bericht achterlaat). Als je nog vragen hebt stel ze me dan op mijn overlegpagina. Veel plezier met bewerken!

Hei Kubura, og velkommen til Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Denne siden er til for å diskutere og samordne alle Wikimediaprosjektene. Vil du vite mer om siden, kan vår policy-side komme til nytte. Er du interessert i å hjelpe til med oversettelser, besøk Meta:Babylon. Du kan også legge igjen en beskjed på Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub (vær vennlig og les instruksjonene øverst på siden før du skriver noe der). Hvis du vil, er du velkommen til å stille spørsmål på min diskusjonsside. God redigering!

Cześć Kubura i witaj w projekcie Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Ta strona została stworzona do koordynacji i dyskusji nad wszystkimi projektami Fundacji Wikimedia. Proszę Cię o przeczytanie naszych zasad. Jeżeli chcesz się zając tłumaczeniem stron, odwiedź Meta:Babylon. Możesz również zostawić notkę na stronie Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (proszę jednak, abyś najpierw przeczytał instrukcje na górze tej strony). Jeżeli będziesz potrzebował pomocy zostaw komentarz na mojej stronie dyskusji. Miłego edytowania!

Olá Kubura! Seja bem-vindo ao Meta! Este site/sítio é dedicado à discussão e à coordenação de todos os demais projetos da Fundação Wikimedia. Talvez lhe seja útil ler a página contendo a nossa política (em inglês) antes de começar a editar. Se tiver dúvidas, sinta-se à vontade para me fazer perguntas em minha página de discussão, ou deixe uma mensagem para toda a comunidade na Babel, Meta:Metapub, a versão do Meta da Esplanada. Boa sorte!

Ciao Kubura, şi bine aţi venit la Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Acest website este pentru coordonarea şi discuţiile tuturor proiectelor Wikimedia. Este folositor să citiţi pagina despre politica noastră.. Dacă sunteţi interesaţi de traducere, vizita-ţi Meta:Babylon. De asemenea puteţi lasa o notă pe Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub, (vă rugăm citiţi instrucţiunile de la începutul paginii înainte de a posta acolo). Dacă ai întrebări, nu ezita să mă întrebi pe pagina mea de discuţii talk page. Editare cu succes!

Здравствуйте, Kubura, и добро пожаловать на Мета-вики фонда Викимедиа! Этот сайт предназначен для координации и обсуждения вопросов, связанных со всеми проектами фонда. Для начала предлагаю ознакомиться с правилами этого проекта. Если Вы заинтересованы в работе над переводами страниц Мета-вики и других материалов, посетите Meta:Babylon. Вы также можете обсудить различные вопросы на странице Meta:Babel или Meta:Metapub (пожалуйста, ознакомьтесь с инструкцией сверху, прежде чем писать). Если возникнут вопросы, не бойтесь задавать их мне на моей странице обсуждения. Удачи!

Tjeta Kubura, dhe mirësevin në Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Ky vënd i rrjetës është për të koordinuar dhe diskutuar çdo projekt të Wikimediës. Mund ta gjësh të dobishme faqet e politikës sonë. Në qoftë se je duke interesuar në përkthime, vizitò Meta:Babylon. Mund të lësh një shënim në Meta:Babel ose Meta:Metapub (të lutem të lexosh përdorimet në fillim të fletës para se të postosh atje). Në qoftë se do, ndihu i/e lirë të më bsh pyetje në faqen time të diskutimit. Të auguroj një redaktim të këndshëm!

Здраво Kubura, и добро дошли на Викимедијин мета-вики! Овај сајт служи за координацију и дискусију око Викимедијиних пројеката. Вероватно ће Вам бити корисно да прочитате наше странице везане за политику рада. Ако сте заинтересовани за превођење, посетите Meta:Babylon. Можете такође и оставити поруку на страници Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub (молимо погледајте упутства на врху те странице пре него што пошаљете свој коментар тамо). Ако имате неко питање, можете да ми поставите на мојој страници за разговор. Срећно уређивање!

Hej Kubura, och välkommen till Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! Meta är till för att diskutera och samordna alla Wikimedias projekt. Vill du veta mer om webbplatsen, kan vår policy-sida komma väl till pass. Är du intresserad av att hjälpa till med översättningar, besök Meta:Babylon. Du kan skriva diskussionsinlägg på Meta:Babel eller Meta:Metapub (läs instruktionerna överst på sidan innan du skriver något där). Om du vill, är du välkommen att ställa frågor på min diskussionssida. Lycka till med redigerandet!

வணக்கம் Kubura, விக்கிமீடியா மேல்விக்கி! இற்கு நல்வரவு. இவ்விணையத்தளமானது கூட்டாகச் சேர்ந்து விடயங்களை விவாதிப்பதற்கென உருவாக்கப் பட்டது. விக்கித்திட்டங்கள். நீங்கள் எங்களின் பாலிசிகளையும் பாலிசி பக்கம் படித்தறியலாம். நீங்கள் மொழிபெயர்பில் ஆர்வமுடையவராகின், Meta:Babylon ஐப் பார்வையிடவும். நீங்கள் Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub இல் குறிப்பொன்றையும் விட்டுச் செல்லலாம். (பக்கத்தின் மேலேயிருக்கும் அறிவுறுத்தல்களை வாசித்தபின்னரே அங்கே செய்திகளை இடவும்). நீங்கள் விரும்பினால் எனது பக்கத்தில் செய்தியொன்றை விடவும் talk page. உங்கள் ஆக்கங்களை வரவேற்கின்றோம்!

Kubura, 你好！歡迎光臨維基媒體元維基！這個網站是為協調和討論所有維基媒體項目而設。我們的政策頁可能對您有用。如果您有興趣協助翻譯工作, 請參觀Meta:Babylon。你可在 Meta:Babel, Meta:Metapub 留下口訊 (張貼之前請先讀該頁上指示)。若有問題, 請在我的討論頁問我 。祝
編安!

Alex Pereira ^falaê 18:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

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As recquired. Kubura 00:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC) And this is "exactly". Kubura 00:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC) Third luck :)) Kubura 01:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

IRC cloak request: I confirm that my freenode nick is Kubura

GR requests are not votings

Please stop such kind of spam with offtopic comments. This is Meta, and not hr.wiki. --WizardOfOz ^talk 09:57, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

At first, it was a information. I know you have a problem with assuming good faith. Second: No, the topic is not his work on hr wiki, it is his global work ant that is more than fine. If you can´t check it, it´s your problem, not mine. You have leave your opinion, and its OK. She is still standing there. Third: Yes i have the right to remove offtopic comments, even to delete them, as it is a sysop work.

We cannot allow aclamatory mood while giving tools. Who is we? Stewards and other global rollbackers and hardly workers in CW who needs every help they can get? Or is it just Kubura, who is usualy against everything that comes with "global" in his name?

You still didn´t read the rules, or did you?

This is not a vote, and all input is welcome. Stewards will determine whether consensus exists; when doing so it is likely that the weight given to the input of those involved in cross-wiki work will be most influential.

You don´t even have an global account, nothing to say about your fight against vandals (where ever they may be... but not in your CW contributions).

About attacking you: it was a simple explanation, sorry if you can´t understand it.

So Kubura, it will be nice if you can stop your stalk tour of users you don´t like. If you have something against his work on hr.wiki, than discuss it there where it belongs, but not here on meta with such comments after warning. I know that you are a user who is unnecessarily too cautious, and i appreciate that. :) --WizardOfOz ^talk 16:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Good job

Youre a good Croat, Kubura.

Please invite other good Croats to come and help realize this project.

RfC

Hi. A request: could you please respond to this? Thank you in advance and regards, Wutsje 12:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Prijevod poruka

Prilikom dorade stranice s porukama na hrv. jeziku izmjenio si pogrješno poveznicu do poruka na svim jezicima. Naime, u tekstu poveznice si stavio "Predložite zaglavnu poruku na hrvatskom jeziku" što je netočno, naime poveznica vodi do liste odabira svih jezika i svih preloženih poruka. Dok gornja tipka Dodaj zaglavnu poruku ima funkciju dodavanje poruke na hrvatskom jeziku. Poruka koju sam preložio je u duhu hrv. jezika budući da govori o 100.000 članaka na našoj wiki. Vjerovatno si mislio na neki od prijevoda mete.--Anton008 10:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

O čemu točno pričaš? --Anton008 10:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Translation Update

I want to thank you for your help translating throughout this year's fundraiser. The fundraiser has greatly benefited from all your contributions. Currently, the Kartika, Liliaroja, Abbas and Joan Gomà appeals need to be translated, as we are running appeals from editors. You can find all translation requests at the translation hub on meta and you can follow the progress of the fundraiser in real time by tracking the fundraiser statistics. It is important to check the Core Messages as many languages still need updating. Also if you haven't already, you can subscribe to the translators-l mailing list for all new requests and major changes. Many thanks for your help in truly making this a global fundraiser that you can edit.Klyman 20:32, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Last warning before block

Please don´t use project pages for offtopic discussion and to comment users behavior. Use his talk page. You should assume good faith. If you are "not satisfied with his knowlage of Croatian", feel free to translate if you think that there is something wrong. Anton is not the project, and possible Wikinews on Croatian are not Anton. He has started it on Incubator, but for first a community should be built. Claiming that someone say that Croatia is a country of Untermensch, is calling someone Nazi and a personal attack. Once more and you will be blocked per infinite on meta. --WizardOfOz ^talk 06:13, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Bad translation

Why do you change every line with small letter, in all languages (including Serbian and Macedonian) its written with uppercase letter, and why do you type "Koristim računalo za čitati", it doesn't make sense, proper translation is old translation. And please don't call me a Nazi. --Anton 008 09:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

"All languages" is not the argument. It's like "everybody knows". Every language has its own ortography. Croatian ortography is explicit about that; English prefers using capital letters a lot. It's not the case with Croatian language. Please, e.g., take a look at Narodne novine. Capital letters are used only with personal names or at the beginning of a sentence.

About ...za čitati: some of us use infinitive form. If you say that you're from Rijeka and that you know Chakavian dialect of Croatian [1], then you'll understand what I want to say :). True Chakavian speaker from Rijeka 'll say "za čitat", a ne "da čitam". Nešto nam je (za) činiti. Man, you've confused me here on this one.

Second, where did I call you a Nazi??? Please, give me the diff. Where did I write that "user... is a Nazi" (I don't want to use form "you're a ...", neither here)?

I hope we'll find mutual understanding in the future. Kubura 02:04, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Horvatian Wiki-weekend

Hi, Kubura! Some days ago we had Horvatian Wiki-weekend in Wiki-ua - http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вікіпедія:Проект:Тематичний_тиждень/Хорватський_місяць Wow! (i just from that link - weekend was renamed to month! ;-0 )

I just to want ask you organize suchlike weekend of Ukraine in wiki-hr. I think it's may be become good tradition - organization such weekend - around wiki! ;-)

For this 2 or three weeks I liked Horvatia! Palms, beaches, mountains, islands... Blue sea and white boats and yachts! ;-)

Have fun! ;-) --Nickispeaki 20:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Translator, We need you!

Dear Kubura,

You have helped us in previous years with translations and for that we are most grateful. Now we turn towards the 2011/12 fundraiser. It may seem forever away, but work has already begun getting everything ready to go. This year we want to have landing pages covering as many countries in as many languages as possible.

Right now, we want to figure out who is interested in translating for the fundraiser. This year we're hoping to have more of a solidified "core" group of translators that we can count on to have work done by a few key dates, but we'd also welcome help from people who are willing to just help out when they can.

If you would be interested please take a look at this little sign-up survey and fill it out http://survey.wikimedia.org/index.php?sid=13638&newtest=Y&lang=en. With that we can start building a list of people and filling any gaps in the languages we serve.

Many Thanks

Joseph Seddon (User:Jseddon (WMF))

Production Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation
Jseddon (WMF) 00:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Croatian language

Dear Kubura, can you help me with translations? All you do is that you complaint that I start/open some translations pages who is mostly in English, you don't see how much work I do, you only have complaints about what is correct "bilo kakve" or "nikakve" in text who have 31,353 bytes, why dont you just change that two words? If you see that something is not translated, or something isn't 100% correct, feel free to translate if you think that there is something wrong. --Anton 008 17:41, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Anton008. I always helped you with the translations, as much as I could.Special:Contributions/Kubura

Just look back and see how many times I (and others) translated after you, corrected you etc.

Your recent translation attempt contains many errors [2]. These aren't few typos, there's a lot of text to correct. That wasn't the only time. That's a regular pattern of your errors that drew the attention of others. It's not "just few errors", but a lot of them.

Cleaning and correcting after another user that's doing things wrongly isn't easy. Often is easier to rewrite/retranslate the whole text, than to pick and clean the errors from your work. And that's a loooot of work and time.

You have problems with lexic, syntax, verbal aspect, passive voice, substantivity, distinguishing undetermined forms, (non)sequence of tenses, ortography... These are elementary, but also refined high-style things we must care about when writing/translating on Meta. High-quality translations represent our project and improve Wikipedia; in opposite case, that's degrading the project. So in this case it's better to have no translation, then wrong (especially no errors like "bilo kakve" and "ikakve") or not good translation. User Bugoslav nicely explained you some things too [3].

Your ambitions make you engage yourself into more translations than you are able to handle.

Therefore, when others clean after you, they solve the consequences, but not the cause, so the same problem remains and reappears every time.

We can correct once, twice, 3, 4, 5...10 times. But this is very difficult work that needs concentration and free time. And we can't hang always behind another user to clean. It's hard to do something that you had no original intention to do.

Others haven't come to this project to clean after others, but to creatively write articles, educate others, discuss.

So please, can you leave the translations from English into Croatian to more experienced, more versed and more skilled users? Please? And, please, don't put the mark "done" [4] without consulting the proven users from the concerned project. Remember the case of "bilo kakve" and "ikakve".

I see that you know Bosnian language [5] and that you're familiar with Serbian language [6]. Good luck! Have a pleasant journey! Since they don't complain on your work, they obviously seem satisfied with your work. So, can you, please, completely devote your translation work on the translations from English to Bosnian and Serbian language?

Sorry for the long message. I tried to explain a lot of questions that arose from this, at the first sight, simple topic, but in fact, very complex matter. Bye, Kubura 03:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

In Croatian there are different words for the process and for the work. Kubura 05:05, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

"Savjetovani odbor"?? That means "the Board that was advised", not "Advisory Board". Kubura 05:27, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

You classified an article as "translated", although you've skipped two paragraphs [7]! Also, be careful with the translation of the word "to mean". Značiti and podrazumijevati is not the same. Similar, but not the same. Kubura 04:28, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

A to your Q on my RFC on the HR WIKI in regards to my indef block

Dear Kubura,

on 24st of October, this year, some time past midnight, you have posted a question on my Request for Administrators' Comment on the Croatian Wikipedia.

In doing so, you have violated a number of Wikipedia's rules in regards to the RFC, an presents in itself a heap of problems. Let me please direct you to the Rulebook for Administrators in the Case of an Objection of a User Blocked for a Period of Month or More.

“ If a User confirms that the Objection is his in the upper deadline [3 days, SR], in that same deadline he has the right to alter the Objections in every conceivable manner (including the option of withdrawal). On the expiration of the mentioned 3 days, the User is reblocked. Afterward, Administrators have got a 7-day period to expose their Opinions... ”

Firstly, let me remind you that my 3-day period of suspension of penalty expired on 25 October 2011; the block of an expiration of indefinite was restored to me by Administrator Zeljko, on 26 October 2011. Your post was therefore not placed within the strictly determined timeframe, but this is not its only problem. As an Administrator on the Croatian Wikipedia, you should have been aware that the RfC is not predicted as a place for Q&As, but as a place for strictly placing the Requests for Administrators' Comments, and their respected Opinions thereof. Therefore, if you desire to address me personally, I advice you to do so on the designated place - my personal talk page, and not in a place in which it most definitely does not belong to. Additionally, aside from technical problems, your controversial post contains some quite problematic issues of other type. You should have been aware that Users under block cannot make edits of any kind, and that also counts for the Wikipedia:Namespace pages. This way, your question, as well as the repetition of your inquiry on 28 October 2011, could lead to a continuation of violation of Wikipedia's Rules & Guidelines, by opening a discussion with the objecting User enduring block - who (me, in this precise case) could be sanctioned precisely for answering your question.

A thing that draws a considerable amount of concern is the fact that, obviously, you have decided to comment on the RfC without even reading the actual Request, which is quite troublesome coming from an Administrator, taking to noted that this is about an issue of grave importance; a User's eternal fate on the corresponding Wikipedia. In your 2nd post on my RFC, you have repeated the error exposed by myself precisely in the Request - you have noted that Administrators Flopy and Sokac121 had given their respected Opinions outside the designated time period. This is incorrect, as I had already posted - Administrator Jure Grm had violated the Rule Book when he illegally crossed out their Opinions and didn't include them in the Conclusion. For the sake of clarity, I shall repeat that part of my argument here, on your talk page: Flopy and Sokac121 had placed their Opinions on 8 July 2011, whereas the deadline to do so expired on 10 July 2011.

In the light of all of these sourced facts, I ask you politely to cross out your posts on my RFC in order to protect the integrity of the Wikipedia on Croatian language. I am completely struck by your disregard of the Set of Rules, because you yourself are one of the nine Administrators that had enacted it. You have warned Flopy and Sokac121 for allegedly (as already determined, it was not true) not writing within the designated period and strongly endorsed the decision to cross out their Opinions. Please, offer a form of principled behavior and under the very same criteria you applied to other Administrators, apply that approach to yourself and cross out your comments.

In an attempt to show good faith though, I will answer the question you gave me here: Yes, I have been completely honest to the Croatian Wikipedian Community.

I had originally wanted to write you a reply using the E-mail feature, however I wanted to answer to you publicly, so that our communication can be transparent and that everyone could see my reply. I will inform you of my answer using that feature instead.

With sincere greetings and hope that our misunderstanding will be soon cleared, SavoRastko

P. S. Please do not resort to conspiracy theories as you did with your 3rd post on my RFC, on 30 October 2011. I have been, through the e-mail feature, in contact with a vast number of Administrators, both from the Croatian Wikipedia, as well as from other Wikipedia Projects; there is practically a unanimous consensus that this represents a blatant violation of Wikipedia's Guidelines and Policies, as well as its very basic principles (the Five Pillars of Wikipedia). I do not have hidden intentions, besides appealing against the injustice set upon me by blatant misuse of administrative authority - Wikipedia's rules are clearly on my side, and if the Wikipedia is a functional online society, the error must and will be corrected. It is also a fact that the Croatian Wikipedia seems to have a recurring problem, as the incident I fell in is not the first of its nature... --SavoRastko 18:58, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Dear Kubura,

As you had not crossed out your Comments on my RFC regarding the controversial sanctions taken against myself, I'd like to repeat my question from the above and also ask you the reason for the lack of a reply in the meantime.

Sincere regards, SavoRastko

Studenoga

Bok Kuburo!

Molim te pročitaj što sam napisao suradniku Ex-u13.

Ovdje je cjelokupan tekst.

U istom sam tekstu spomenuo i gramatiku koju si ti konzultirao. w:hr:Razgovor sa suradnikom:Bugoslav/Pismohrana 5#Rišia san! Studenog i studenoga! Također i na izravnoj poveznici – ovdje.

Ne tražim od tebe da me uzimaš u zaštitu, već da uzmeš u zaštitu Projekt, kao i kulturu hrvatskoga jezika. Ovdje nije u pitanju jedan suradnik – suradničkoga imena Bugoslav, već je u pitanju poštovanje hrvatskoga jezičnog standarda, što je jako teško postići kad se ljudima podmeće nekakvo poopćeno brljanje, smetanje i/ili slično (da ne govorim o ovakvim optužbama i slično. Nekima je očito dopušteno uklanjati ono, za što se lako utvrdi tko je pisao. A sve dočekuju zna se kako. -- Bugoslav ^(talk) 17:29, 2. XI. 2011. (UTC)

Obavijestio sam suradnika o vrelima, kao i posljedicama koje ima citiranje Predsjedništva Hrvatskoga sabora. Pozdrav. -- Bugoslav ^(talk) 21:34, 6. XI. 2011. (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

This barnstar is given to you for your help with the 2011 fundraiser translation.

Hi! I just want to thank you and give you this barnstar for your help with the translation of the 2011 fundraiser! The fundraiser was the best we ever had, both in terms of the amount we collected and in terms of number of translations. We couldn't have done either one without the help we got from you and other translators. If you are interested, we made a report, which has some statistics about the translations.

And: I have one more request, and that is that you take this survey. You may have got an e-mail about it, and if you did, please ignore this. But if you didn't it would be great if you would take this survey too, so we can learn to improve the translation experience.

Again, thanks for your help with translations – you're awesome! Jon Harald Søby (WMF) 13:31, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Hrvatska wikipedija

Jel možes da me odblokiraš na Hrvatskoj wikipediji? Izvini za onu sliku neko je sa mog naloga to postavio ja nisam. Ja ne mrzim nikog. Ja nisam postavio sliku pape. Odgovirimi ako možes [[8]] --Velimir Ivanovic (talk) 07:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

lock

Please list them. --Jyothis (talk) 02:48, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I have locked the PSherman one. The other can't be locked, as its not unified. I would say that we need to keep an eye. --Jyothis (talk)

Talkback

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Jimbo's talk page discussion

Message by Michaeldsuarez [9][10] transferred here:
Kubura, perhaps you should reflect on your past actions and consider the possibility that the opposition has a point as well as the possibility that you were something of a bully yourself:

• Requests_for_comment/Croatian_Wikipedia-misuse_of_admin_tools_by_User:Kubura
• Requests_for_comment/2013_issues_on_Croatian_Wikipedia/Evidence/Conduct#Kubura
• Requests_for_comment/2013_issues_on_Croatian_Wikipedia#Kubura_.28admin_on_hr.wiki.29_tries_to_provoke_me_for_permanent_block
• http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=62912#p62912

I don't understand the Croatian language, so I won't comment any further. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 18:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Michaeldsuarez, I'm talking with Jimbo Wales. If You have something to say to me, post it to my talkpage, don't congest other's discussions. Old discussions on Meta are closed (some have falsified archives, with hidden messages, so You are not able to see whole story).

If You don't understand the language of the community being discussed, than please don't mess into something You never profoundly been to.

I did not give in to cyberbullying, vandals and trolls. Aggressive users are now retaliating. They saw the media lynch as an opportunity. Kubura (talk) 12:27, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I've restored my comment. Jimbo needs to know what the other side is saying about you and others in order to make an informed statement. Also, have you considered my advice? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 12:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales knows what the other side is saying about me.

I say again: I stood on the way of the aggressive and destructive users. Being a kind of wikipoliceman carries the hatred of the destructive users. Now they saw a chance for their vendetta.

Your message is congesting my discussion with Jimbo Wales. Let me talk with him. Please, do not disturb the discussionflow. Kubura (talk) 12:54, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

It's an open discussion. Any user may join in. That's how it works on Jimbo's enwiki user talk page. You're probably better off not thinking of yourself as some sort of "wikipoliceman". Taking the Internet too seriously usually doesn't end well. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:08, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, let's sort some things out: I don't want bad blood.

Comments are welcomed, but parachutists and drawing away from the root of the things might have the effect of successful trolling, even if the trolling was not the intention.

Michaeldsuarez, I don't know if You ever were the admin. It seems that You were not.

I don't want to think about myself as some kind of wikipoliceman. But if You encounter the destructive user, and if You want to protect the project, and if You do act (if You do not cowardishly stay away, waiting for someone else to solve the problem), if You are not an "ficus admin", than You do function as policeman, although that was not Your original intention.

Do You understand me now? Kubura (talk) 13:47, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm an Encyclopedia Dramatica sysop. I have experience moderating wikis, and I don't believe that your approach is the right one. Behaving as if hrwiki is under siege will do more harm than good. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:06, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't want to belittle Your project, but Enc. Dramatica has "Serving 11,520 articles since December 10th, 2004".[11]

That's small project, compared to hr.wiki, that has over 143,000 articles. Dramatica is just one of zillions of pages in English, unnoticeable wood in the forest (but that does not mean that Enc.Dram. is bad). On the other hand, hr.wiki is the major free encyclopedic source in Croatian. Hr.wiki is also read and used a lot by users from neighbouring countries.

Therefore, hr.wiki is the interesting target for vandals, trolls and other destructive users. You don't even know what is the assault of the destructive users.

Some small wiki is not interesting for the destructive users, their ego requires something noticeable, something much bigger. That's why You don't understand position of admins on hr.wiki. Kubura (talk) 14:24, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

"I don't want to belittle your project, but excuse while I cite some statistics designed to belittle your project." :) If one wanted to belittle it, one could just point that it is, after, Encylopedia Dramatica we're talking about. Vandals take a look at the sidebar and think, "Do I even need to bother trying to eff up this site any worse?" Then, before they make up their minds, they get an ad for PunishTube thrown in their face. Leucosticte (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

• Kubara, what you did on Jimbo's talk page here, removing Michael's comment, could get you promptly blocked on some wikis. It is not up to you to police his talk page, that's clear. I'll add that your attitude, displayed toward Michael, is likely to create conflict wherever it is expressed. It has nothing to do with "trolls, vandals, and destructive users." Those who see the world like that tend to become destructive themselves. Yes, there are such people, but in reacting to them, we become them. I suggest learning to listen to criticism, you can go far if you do. Wikis are about consensus, not "my way or the highway." --Abd (talk) 15:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

• For the record, my user page says I'm involved in the "controversy about fascist bias on Croatian Wikipedia" (emphasis added). This states there's a controversy about such bias, which is difficult to deny, not that there is a bias. Just as everyone, I have my opinions on whether there is a bias, what kind, and why, and I have voiced them openly both at Meta & at hr.wiki. More importantly, however, I recognize that I am only one person and I may be wrong, that this is not a trivial issue, and that the only way to resolve it is to gather as wide a range of opinion as possible, supported by specific pointers to what's happening on the Wikis. That's been the primary goal in initiating and moderating the information gathering effort here at Meta. Any comments or suggestions about it are invited and welcome. Miranche (talk) 20:03, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

• If I have time, Miranche, I'll look at that. Somewhat contrary to what I wrote above, I did blank that entire discussion, though I have now cleaned that entire page of material, most of which was a waste of time, since Jimbo apparently doesn't read that page and has requested that efforts to contact him go elsewhere, and it is not a place to make accusations, compile evidence or debate community action. All the cleared material, including the discussion previously blanked, is at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive. Please do not re-open that discussion there. --Abd (talk) 19:54, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Allegations of abuse and defense against allegations

Since I just intervened to remove a discussion/debate/train wreck on User talk:Jimbo Wales here, I want to make it clear that I have no position on any side of this dispute, it was simply inappropriate there, and, unless certain conditions are met, anywhere on meta. I have experience in successfully confronting admin abuse, and I've also been blocked and banned for it. I'm willing to assist you, *and* the other parties. Just ask, and, given limitations on my time, I'll look at a situation. I will also put this comment on other related user talk pages, but I'm travelling now with limited access. Good luck at finding and implementing consensus on your project. --Abd (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Should FuzzyBot remove all potentially outdated translations?

Hello, thanks for adding multiple new translations in your language here at Meta-Wiki in recent years. Please join the discussion with your opinion: Should FuzzyBot automatically remove all potentially outdated translations?. Nemo (talk) 12:01, 1 March 2016 (UTC)