Meta:Requests for adminship/Jianhui67

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Ending at 14 May 2015 08:35 (UTC)

Dear community. I would like to present Jianhui67 for your consideration for adminship at our Meta-Wiki. He has been active in our community for quite some time and is interested on performing maintenance work. He has tagged since he joined our community quite a bunch of pages for deletion and reverted also instances of vandalism. On the global side, he is active on SWMT. Appart from being a global renamer, he also holds adminship at Wikimedia Commons and OTRS access, which is indicative of trust. I think that giving this user the tools would be a benefit for the project. I hope that you can share my impressions and therefore could support this nomination. Thank you. -- MarcoAurelio 08:35, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate acceptance: I would like to thank Marco for this nomination and I hereby accept it. If given the tools, I woud like to continue on my counter-vandalism and maintenance work here. Thank you for your consideration. Jianhui67^{talk★contribs} 08:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After much consideration, I have decided to withdraw this nomination as several users are concerned about my general inexperience. Jianhui67^{talk★contribs} 16:50, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nominator. -- MarcoAurelio 08:35, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Syum90 (talk) 09:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose This user is totally clueless. Every time I am on IRC, I witness him not understanding some conversation and trying to nevertheless make funny jokes, or similar. He is also not very active on Meta (ca. 1000 edits and a large part of the last 250 at least comes only from page moves by renaming users. The latter right btw was gained without experience and immediately some errors were made (e.g. [1] - that summary "opps pressed wrong button" is also representative of the style of communication on IRC). --MF-W 10:52, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Kolega2357 (talk) 11:26, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Geagea (talk) 11:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Jianhui67 is a nice and courteous editor, but the experience with his gaining the global rename right was unsettling, per MF-W. --Rs chen 7754 13:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, I don't know about MF-W and Rschen7754 Statements, people do make mistake, and they grow and learn from mistake, it what makes them 'human', Jianhui67 growth are fast and I take MF-W comment as a 'hint' that Jianhui67 is a user that keen to learn, this user made a mistake in a good faith and he never did same mistake 'twice'. So... I am not so sure about opposing people who want to help, who never abuse his rights/tool/bits, and keen to learn something new everyday. this is a wrong reason to oppose.--AldNonymous^Bicara? 16:15, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to be more blunt, I don't want to wake up one day and see in my IRC scrollback:

<Jianhui67>I just broke the portal for www.wikipedia.org

<Jianhui67>Lol

On Meta, there's a lot of technical ways to mess things up that aren't there on other wikis, such as the portals, the blacklists, and CentralNotice. While I believe Jianhui67 means well, I cannot support giving another right to a user who hasn't shown mastery of the right they already have (global renamer), and when (at least it seems to the onlooker) like they are not taking enough care with them. --Rs chen 7754 05:08, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You lacking AGF, he probably just meant to say his mistake to everyone, because it's kinda hard he make it as a joke.--AldNonymous^Bicara? 06:33, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rschen7754, thank you for your opinion. I would just want to make a point that I have no intention to touch on portals, blacklists and CentralNotice that require technical knowledge. I would only want to focus on deletions and counter-vandalism work here. I would improve my way of communication as well, and also try to avoid careless mistakes. Jianhui67^{talk★contribs} 15:24, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, nobody is perfect. I know Jianhui67 as hard-working and responsible user. --Stryn (talk) 16:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I disagree with MF-Warburg's harsh wording, but I find Jianhui67's metawiki activity indeed not sufficient, yet. It's okay to make mistakes as well, but using fat fingers as an excuse when messing up things with a tool which is to be used with special caution (renaming is not a simple rollback which can always easily be undone) does not really speak for him. Adminship should indeed not be a big deal, but with meta namespace edits amounting to 0 (except for RFP votes and translations) I unfortunately cannot support as of today. Vogone (talk) 17:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is by the way not just a personal opinion of mine, WM:RFA even manifests a requirement for familiarity with Meta-Wiki: "Any successful candidate will need to be able to demonstrate sufficient experience within the Wikimedia community, in addition to a familiarity with Meta-Wiki." Vogone (talk) 17:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral The thing I like about Jianhui67 is that he asks when he needs to clarify something. But sometimes I feel like he lets his inexperience get in the way. Therefore, while I wouldn't exactly have a problem with him becoming an admin here, I can't endorse it either.--Jasper Deng (talk) 17:21, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
His experience tagging pages for deletion here is good, which seems to be the main use of sysop tools that he is going for. This isn't a request for global renamer; Jianhui is a sysop on two content projects and there is no indication that he won't be able to use the tools well here. It's not like these are new rights for him. That said, I understand the concerns with communication, and suggest that the candidate work on that. Weak support, I suppose. Ajraddatz (talk) 17:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I hate to rain on the parade however digging around a little I find I share Vogone & Jasper Dengs concerns. For me, although known trusted and appreciated on Commons, sub 1000 edits here around 250 of which are in the last month simply isn't enough experience on Meta. It's something I used to say when I was truly active here but breaking stuff on Meta can affect a lot of other people. Not at this time for me I'm afraid. --Herby ^{talk thyme} 16:01, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've thought about this and unfortunately, I will also have to oppose based on the fact that Jianhui67 does not have sufficient amount of edits to Meta and Meta talk namespace (zero edits). --Glaisher (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate withdrawn. -- MarcoAurelio 18:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]