Meta:Babel/Archives/2016-07

Editing News #2—2016

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Did you know?

It's quick and easy to insert a references list.

Place the cursor where you want to display the references list (usually at the bottom of the page). Open the "Insert" menu and click the "References list" icon (three books).

If you are using several groups of references, which is relatively rare, you will have the opportunity to specify the group. If you do that, then only the references that belong to the specified group will be displayed in this list of references. Finally, click "Insert" in the dialog to insert the References list. This list will change as you add more footnotes to the page.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.

Recent changes

The visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.

The single edit tab feature combines the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "Editing" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.

Future changes

The "Save page" button will say "Publish page". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.

The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together

• Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
• Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Watch the Tech Talk by Sebastian Karcher for more information.

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m:User:Elitre (WMF), 17:20, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Kartographer extension

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T139787 resolved

It would be really useful to have the Kartographer extension to add maps on pages about events. For example, for the Wikiconvention, to have a page with a map of hotels nearby. -Ash Crow (talk) 20:43, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Support. The extension is indeed a good fit for events, and a lot of global, crosswiki or country based events use meta to publish information.

Contributors willing to get information about events will benefit from a map, so yes, that's a good idea.

Disclaimer. This opinion is given as a meta user, and is independent of my opinion when triaging site requests or as a deployment volunteer.

--Dereckson (talk) 20:52, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Support. Would really help to organize events. --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 07:41, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Err ... This extension is already active (special:version).12:41, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Maps update

Hi, we've just deployed the Kartographer extension on this wiki. It allows you to add interactive maps to pages. See Kartographer help page (please expand and translate it if possible).
Our next step is to add "geoshapes" service to the maps. Geoshapes will allow drawing city/region/country outlines by specifying a wikidata ID. Geoshapes service already allows Graph extension to draw graphs together with interactive information, such as a country with subregions.

x-sistemo → eks-sistemo

La hodiauxaj sxangxoj en Phabricator kaj Gerrit devos signifi, ke post du jaroj, kun helpego de Brion, James, Amir, kaj WhatamIdoing, la deviga uzado de la x‑sistemo dum redaktado, devas baldaux fori. Grandan dankon al ili! Dankon egale al LLarson, kiu verkis tiun mesaĝon. --Psychoslave (talk) 13:44, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

English Wikipedia as a source

Hello.Many of Wikipedia articles in several languages Consider English Wikipedia a source.Is this acceptable or is it better to remove these sources by a global bot?Thank you --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 09:29, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia itself can not be a reliable source: see en:WP:CIRCULAR. Ruslik (talk) 19:37, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

A Related Effort

I'm one of the co-founders of a wiki-based site for crowd-sourcing fact checks, and I wonder if the site would be of interest to some the editors here at Wikipedia. The site, kasense.com, allows anyone to create fact checks of public misinformation, as well as edit and improve existing fact checks already on the site. As with Wikipedia, the site policy requires reliable references, so users can verify the fact checks for themselves, and users can collaborate to improve the fact checks over time. The site is still currently in beta.

If you're interested in contributing content to the site, feel free to follow the link (kasense.com) and add a fact check or edit one of the in-progress fact checks. Also, any feedback is welcome, or we can be reached at contactATkasense.com if you'd rather offer feedback over email (replace AT with @).

Please let us no if this isn't an appropriate forum to post this, or if there's some where else it would make more sense to put it. Kasense-info (talk) 20:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Project page appropriate here?

Wikimedia Nederland has recently started an international project, Netherlands and the world, that will take place in many languages and across several Wikimedia projects (presumably Wikipedias, Commons, Wikidata, Wikisource and perhaps other projects too). We thought the most appropriate location for a central project page would be here, on Meta (I know Outreach is an option too, but it is likely that the GLAM pages there will be moved to Meta at some point as well). Does anyone object to having this central project page here on Meta, preferably as a subpage of Wikimedia Nederland? There's a draft in my user space at this moment. Thanks :-) Spinster (talk) 13:29, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

It is entirely appropriate to have such a page here. Ruslik (talk) 18:41, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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salut vous savez je suis nul en englais,qui peut m'aidé s v p. --200.113.234.89 07:06, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Madame/Monsieur, soyez bienvenu(e). Qu'est ce que on peux fair pour vous aider? (mon français est un peux rouillé). Cordialement, —MarcoAurelio 12:28, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

avant je suis un monsieur.vous pouriez me dire un sur le fonctionement du site merci. --200.113.234.10 14:08, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Monsieur, s.v.p. regardez Méta:À propos. Cordialement, —MarcoAurelio 15:44, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio 11:12, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Add 'autopatrol' user right to some local usergroups

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T142123 resolved

It looks a bit odd that some local elected or appointed usergroups such as translation administrators, central notice administrators, mass message senders and WMF SuSa staff have to get autopatrol right separately. I think users in those groups can be trusted not to make incorrect edits nor his pages requires to be patrolled, nor his changes being highlighted in the recent changes. Would you object having the above user groups the autopatrol right attached to their group? If not all, which ones? Thank you. —MarcoAurelio 12:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

I do not object. Ruslik (talk) 18:35, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

I support as much groups as possible having this right; that will prevent many useless log actions. I actually think the patrolling can be switched off altogether as its only effect is whether or not an exclamation mark is shown in the RC next to new pages. --MF-W 13:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I'd also support that as well, but I've proposed this some time ago and it was rejected because people found it useful. —MarcoAurelio 13:53, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I think patrol may still be useful. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

 Support --Lingveno (talk) 09:10, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

 Support the original proposal. Unsure if patrol should be disabled completely. --Krd 09:49, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

 Support Much of the patrolling is just signal noise. Reducing the amount of actions shown and required seems like a good move. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I have filled a ticket and uploaded a patch to add the 'autopatrol' right to: centralnotice administrators, global renamers, massmessage senders, WMF Office IT and WMF Support and Safety; considering that all people in those groups are trusted with more powerful tools and the general impression that there might be no need to patrol their edits nor its page creations. I've not scheduled the patch for any SWAT window yet, just in case there are further comments. —MarcoAurelio 19:36, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

I  Support Marco Aurelio's proposal, but I'm Neutral about MF-W's proposal.--Syum90 (talk) 07:36, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

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Resolved. Thanks for your input. —MarcoAurelio 00:40, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio 11:12, 28 August 2016 (UTC)