Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Larger suggestions/Re-use citation with different page number in VisualEditor
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Re-use citation with different page number in VisualEditor
- Problem: Often you want to cite a book or report multiple times, but citing different page numbers. In Visual Editor, you now have to create these citations separately; it's not possible to reuse a citation, and change the page number only in the new location.
- Proposed solution: A possible solution would be to add a check box in the re-use tab of "cite" if you want to change page number, which would give you a deep copy of the citation.
- Who would benefit: editors using VE
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets: related: phab:T216817
- Proposer: Femke (talk) 18:32, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
Related: WMDE Technical Wishes/Book referencing. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 13:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Given WMDE Technical Wishes/Reusing references, would it make sense to archive this @MusikAnimal (WMF)? Or could this be something both teams work on? Femke (talk) 17:31, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Femke It looks like they declined that wish as it was too complicated. This makes me believe it's probably too much work for Community Tech as well. At the discretion of the Editing team, we're happy to see this proposal through voting here in this category. If they also feel it is too big, it may be better fit for Larger suggestions. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- They declined the book referencing wish. The reusing references wish which followed was chosen as the winner of 2022, and contains this wish as one of the three focal points. Femke (talk) 17:49, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, I see! Thank you for clarifying. Given the scope of the project, I still think this may belong in Larger suggestions. It sounds like WMDE is willing to make it a "focus area", which I presume means they will devote significant time to it. Moving it to Larger suggestions will see it through voting and give their team the reassurance of the desires for this functionality beyond just German-speaking communities. Community Tech can assist as needed, but I think judging by WMDE's assessment, it wouldn't make sense for us to wholly commit to it. I'm happy to instead archive, though, if you so desire :) Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan, moving it to larger suggestions. Femke (talk) 18:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you! Done. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Howis this different from Easily add page numbers with "cite" automatic button for books and then easily "reuse" listed book references with/without new page number(s) if needed. (which ended up in the normal suggestion section)? Tgr (talk) 04:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's half of that (my other wish covers the other half). So there is some cleaning that probably should have been done before the Wishlist launched.. Femke (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal (WMF): is any further cleaning necessary? Or is it too late given the voting has started? Femke (talk) 07:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Since there are two proposals that cover what you're asking for, both of which are in voting, this proposal should have been archived as redundant. But, it's not really hurting anything being here, either. Apologies I didn't catch the redundancy, and also for not replying sooner (I've been on holiday for most of the voting phase). Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Howis this different from Easily add page numbers with "cite" automatic button for books and then easily "reuse" listed book references with/without new page number(s) if needed. (which ended up in the normal suggestion section)? Tgr (talk) 04:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you! Done. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan, moving it to larger suggestions. Femke (talk) 18:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, I see! Thank you for clarifying. Given the scope of the project, I still think this may belong in Larger suggestions. It sounds like WMDE is willing to make it a "focus area", which I presume means they will devote significant time to it. Moving it to Larger suggestions will see it through voting and give their team the reassurance of the desires for this functionality beyond just German-speaking communities. Community Tech can assist as needed, but I think judging by WMDE's assessment, it wouldn't make sense for us to wholly commit to it. I'm happy to instead archive, though, if you so desire :) Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- They declined the book referencing wish. The reusing references wish which followed was chosen as the winner of 2022, and contains this wish as one of the three focal points. Femke (talk) 17:49, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Femke It looks like they declined that wish as it was too complicated. This makes me believe it's probably too much work for Community Tech as well. At the discretion of the Editing team, we're happy to see this proposal through voting here in this category. If they also feel it is too big, it may be better fit for Larger suggestions. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Voting
- Support TheAmerikaner (talk) 20:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support SeGiba (talk) 21:17, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Mapatxea (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Significa liberdade (talk) 22:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Skimel (talk) 00:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Would make things more convenient. SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 01:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support * Pppery * it has begun 04:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Jurbop (talk) 07:27, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Arado Ar 196 (talk) 08:31, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 10:09, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Oltrepier (talk) 10:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Plaga med (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Innitiative.35 (talk) 13:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Mike bzh (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 17:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --NGC 54 (talk|contribs) 01:33, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Betseg (talk) 03:39, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gohan 04:54, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:04, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Fvtvr3r (talk) 14:04, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support SpiderMum (talk) 14:48, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Thomas Kinz (talk) 01:25, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Libcub (talk) 05:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support SpacedShark (talk) 06:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Lion-hearted85 (talk) 12:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ZandDev (talk) 10:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Sadads (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Aishik Rehman (talk) 09:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Doktor Züm (talk) 15:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support JFremd (talk) 16:19, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Geraki TL 20:14, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Fuchs B (talk) 20:18, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ArtDataArt (talk) 20:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support —(ping on reply)—CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 07:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Herbert Ortner (talk) 15:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 16:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Albinfo (talk) 22:15, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Kess (talk) 06:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 12:53, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I think there's a very similar proposal elsewhere in the wishlist PamD (talk) 16:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I use {{rp}} for this purpose, but it's crude — Omegatron (talk) 16:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Nashona (talk) 18:29, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Qxyz123 (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gustamons (talk) 17:57, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support cyrfaw (talk) 18:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Serieminou (talk) 23:15, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Madacs (talk) 20:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Thingofme (talk) 02:13, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Althair (talk) 04:11, 23 February 2023 (UTC)