Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Larger suggestions/Re-use citation with different page number in VisualEditor

Re-use citation with different page number in VisualEditor

  • Problem: Often you want to cite a book or report multiple times, but citing different page numbers. In Visual Editor, you now have to create these citations separately; it's not possible to reuse a citation, and change the page number only in the new location.
  • Proposed solution: A possible solution would be to add a check box in the re-use tab of "cite" if you want to change page number, which would give you a deep copy of the citation.
  • Who would benefit: editors using VE
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets: related: phab:T216817
  • Proposer: Femke (talk) 18:32, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Related: WMDE Technical Wishes/Book referencing. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 13:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given WMDE Technical Wishes/Reusing references, would it make sense to archive this @MusikAnimal (WMF)? Or could this be something both teams work on? Femke (talk) 17:31, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Femke It looks like they declined that wish as it was too complicated. This makes me believe it's probably too much work for Community Tech as well. At the discretion of the Editing team, we're happy to see this proposal through voting here in this category. If they also feel it is too big, it may be better fit for Larger suggestions. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They declined the book referencing wish. The reusing references wish which followed was chosen as the winner of 2022, and contains this wish as one of the three focal points. Femke (talk) 17:49, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see! Thank you for clarifying. Given the scope of the project, I still think this may belong in Larger suggestions. It sounds like WMDE is willing to make it a "focus area", which I presume means they will devote significant time to it. Moving it to Larger suggestions will see it through voting and give their team the reassurance of the desires for this functionality beyond just German-speaking communities. Community Tech can assist as needed, but I think judging by WMDE's assessment, it wouldn't make sense for us to wholly commit to it. I'm happy to instead archive, though, if you so desire :) Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a plan, moving it to larger suggestions. Femke (talk) 18:23, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you! Done. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Howis this different from Easily add page numbers with "cite" automatic button for books and then easily "reuse" listed book references with/without new page number(s) if needed. (which ended up in the normal suggestion section)? Tgr (talk) 04:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's half of that (my other wish covers the other half). So there is some cleaning that probably should have been done before the Wishlist launched.. Femke (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@MusikAnimal (WMF): is any further cleaning necessary? Or is it too late given the voting has started? Femke (talk) 07:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Since there are two proposals that cover what you're asking for, both of which are in voting, this proposal should have been archived as redundant. But, it's not really hurting anything being here, either. Apologies I didn't catch the redundancy, and also for not replying sooner (I've been on holiday for most of the voting phase). Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 15:24, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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