Talk:Global rollback

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Proposal to add deletedtext/deletedhistoryEdit

LTAs are often on the go in several projects, and is it necessary sometimes have to look at contributions from multiple wikis to see whether it is an LTA or a simple vandal. Local sysops sometimes delete posts without other actions because they do not know every LTA, which makes it difficult to identify crosswiki LTAs in projects without a GS. That is why I proposal the GR also get access to deleted content.--π–π’π€π’ππšπ²πžπ« πŸ‘€πŸ’¬ 19:32, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[]

This sounds like overkill. For rollbacking, you don't need to know whether something is mere vandalism or very bad LTA vandalism. --MF-W 21:42, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[]
@MF-WThis is for the initiation of further measures, i.e. request on SRG, checkuser request etc.--π–π’π€π’ππšπ²πžπ« πŸ‘€πŸ’¬ 23:00, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[]
Sounds like overkill to me too. Rollback should be sufficiently determined by the content, not by the history. Β β€” billinghurst sDrewth 06:21, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[]
Β Β Oppose Huge overkill, if you want to be a sysop, apply to be a sysop - rollback is meant to be a simple and quick content fixing tool. β€” xaosflux Talk 14:48, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[]
Β Β Oppose per xaosflux; it would mean an increase in the review and granting; let us keep it simple. If this was to progress I would want it to be via a RFC where the big wikis could see and comment. The impact would be upon them, and I don't think they would favour it. They definitely would want an opinion. Β β€” billinghurst sDrewth 16:25, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[]
Β Β Oppose This is clearly out of scope of the group. * Pppery * it has begun 14:43, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[]
Β  Comment if this is approved, stewards please confirm with WMF legal that this is allowed before adding the rights, given that it allows viewing deleted content --DannyS712 (talk) 09:40, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[]
Β Β Oppose Generally, these features are given to groups such as admin, checkuser, oversighter and member of the arbitration committee in local projects. For some this roles, you must be a trusted user and approve confidentiality agreements. Of course, global rollbackers are also trusted users. However, some deleted content also contains personal information such as home address, credit card number, phone number. At this point, globall rollbackers will also have possible liabilities. Imho, viewing deleted contents isn't a good idea for the global rollbacker group. --Uncitoyentalk 09:58, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[]
DannyS712 + Uncitoyen you are confusing the rights with "suppressrevision/suppressionlog" --π–π’π€π’ππšπ²πžπ« πŸ‘€πŸ’¬ 14:23, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[]
No, sometimes when the oversighters aren't active, the admins can hide these contributions with revisiondelete on the Turkish Wikipedia. Then, when oversighters are active, they suppress to these contributions. This allows global rollbackers to see this on the Turkish Wikipedia. Perhaps there are other local wikis with such situations. This is a concern for me. --Uncitoyentalk 14:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[]
No, see the second quote at w:Wikipedia:Viewing deleted content DannyS712 (talk) 22:51, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[]

Β Β no further action, no consensus to progress Β β€” billinghurst sDrewth 22:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[]

Local policy on jawikiEdit

The jawiki community discussed rollbacker group. At that time, we set the rules for GR. (See also ja:Wikipedia:ε·»γζˆ»γ—θ€…#γ‚°γƒ­γƒΌγƒγƒ«ε·»γζˆ»γ—θ€…) This rule means the local administrator can ask GR to stop using rollback and other additional features.

I suggest adding this jawiki rule to GR#Local policies section.--mirinano (talk) 03:34, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[]

I will presume that a jaWP admin will come along and add it when they so choose. Β β€” billinghurst sDrewth 13:11, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[]
Β Β Oppose There is little practical difference between the JAWP policy and the global policy, so there is no need to provide us with further information.--Infinite0694 (Talk) 16:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[]
You're right. I think GR take a casual glance at this policy but it may not be as much as we would add it. I want to withdraw this suggestion.--mirinano (talk) 16:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[]

Later?Edit

Is there some consensus on whether it can be resigned and then continued on at some point in the future? Or, like Commons' notice "stating that they will be away for a period"? ~Lofty abyss 17:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[]

Not from my understanding, you need to file a new request. Leaderboard (talk) 17:37, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[]
Actually, if it's two years with no edits at all then that seems long enough... ~Lofty abyss 18:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[]
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